Vajrahridaya Posted October 19, 2009 What you have given is a bad attempt at being analytical with the process. He's actually quite right from a light magic perspective when you are working with Chi in alignment with enlightened beings from beyond or living who assist in how the energy is working with you. They help the energy assist repair of neurotic behavior patterns, energy ailments and mis-alignments, then assist in the blossoming of super normal powers with the backbone of virtue so that they are aids in both your ability to offer help and understand how things work directly through the opening of the subtle senses. So that one doesn't use these powers in selfish ways that will only harm one's karma. In dark magic, they go straight for the powers without healing neurotic patterns first because the intent is selfish to begin with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sloppy Zhang Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) Okay This is my interpretation of "how". Energy get built up in the body from the practices. First the energy targets areas where you have issues (blockages) first and is used for repair. Then after the repairs are done it works its way to the "extras"...like siddhis. That is not a "how" . Go back to school for a few years. What you have given is a bad attempt at being analytical with the process. Err, actually that was a pretty good idea about the process..... it's certainly more helpful than what other people seem to say as: 1) reach stillness 2) ??? 3) YOU ARE PSYCHIC! It's not that I don't believe it's possible. It's just that, when you say you can become psychic, which is quite easily verifiable, well, I personally expect to see it. If you don't want to have to prove yourself, and if you don't want to at least make an attempt at explaining it, then don't even make the claims. He's actually quite right from a light magic perspective when you are working with Chi in alignment with enlightened beings from beyond or living who assist in how the energy is working with you. They help the energy assist repair of neurotic behavior patterns, energy ailments and mis-alignments, then assist in the blossoming of super normal powers with the backbone of virtue so that they are aids in both your ability to offer help and understand how things work directly through the opening of the subtle senses. So that one doesn't use these powers in selfish ways that will only harm one's karma. In dark magic, they go straight for the powers without healing neurotic patterns first because the intent is selfish to begin with. This as well is reasonable. Edited October 19, 2009 by Sloppy Zhang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrahridaya Posted October 19, 2009 Everyone says their stuff can awaken psychic abilities, but nobody quite says how.... Or is it just this? As awareness becomes more subtle and one starts seeing how connections work in general, how inner and outer schematics loose the experience of density, become more non-dual, one automatically gains access to higher potentials in the brain and mind/chakra system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sloppy Zhang Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) As awareness becomes more subtle and one starts seeing how connections work in general, how inner and outer schematics loose the experience of density, become more non-dual, one automatically gains access to higher potentials in the brain and mind/chakra system. Awesome In dark magic, they go straight for the powers without healing neurotic patterns first because the intent is selfish to begin with. So I am assuming that in these "dark magics", the premise of getting the powers is the same? They just aren't as good minded about having them? Some people/traditions say things along the lines that, you can only get them if you are "good", or that, by the process of getting them, you realize how you should be "good". I was wondering about your thoughts on that? Edited October 19, 2009 by Sloppy Zhang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrahridaya Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) So I am assuming that in these "dark magics", the premise of getting the powers is the same? They just aren't as good minded about having them? Premise of getting them? You mean reason, or how they get them? They get them through concentration techniques and exercises. For the sake of fulfilling mundane desires and gaining spiritual power for the sake of self aggrandizing. Some Thelema (Alyster Crolley) practitioners is one particular path that is sometimes abused in this fashion. Some people/traditions say things along the lines that, you can only get them if you are "good", or that, by the process of getting them, you realize how you should be "good". I was wondering about your thoughts on that? In every tradition that I am familiar with in the East, it is known historically that there are plenty of demonic minded people that get these powers, or are once good yogi's but turn bad when they do get their powers and abuse them. Lots of fringe Shamanic traditions sometimes do this. There are plenty of Taoist Wizards that are known to do this, Tibetan Bon Wizards, Hindu Yogi's gone bad, Buddhist practitioners gone bad. Voodoo practitioners. Sometimes people get them through taking an herb or drug, then discipline their experience of them for the sake of self aggrandizing. Plenty of "thug" pot heads who use marijuana in this way. Edited October 19, 2009 by Vajrahridaya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smile Posted October 19, 2009 To understand any form of meditation it must be practiced - but there are steps - what are the steps to it?Simply saying that: "Focus your mind on what you are already doing and stick with it " and "focus on observing sensation (physical and mental) without mentally attaching to them. You are like an onion - you keep peeling the layers of yourself till you have nothing left. And then you go even deeper" "But to say it's the description doesn't do Vipassana justice. Take a 10 day retreat and you will understand what the practice is. It's donation based" - is a sales pitch by any other name is a sales pitch based on donations. Meditation is much, much more than what you are writing. And you are describing your practice as: "it" ? Nice one. Here is a little lesson in comprehension. Try not to mix my response to SereneBlue about her Kap practice with response to you about Vipassana. And please don't expect me to write a multi-page report on what Vipassana is. Go to http://www.dhamma.org/ and learn all your heart desires. Or don't. To put it in another way: Vipassana will make your siddhis develop in a natural way when and if you are ready. Fortunately by that time your heart and mind will not be swayed that easily. Also, in no way I say this practice is superior to any practices the reader might be practicing. I'm just stating the observation on Vipassana. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lino Posted October 19, 2009 That is not a "how" . Go back to school for a few years. What you have given is a bad attempt at being analytical with the process. I guess you missed the part where I said "my interpretation" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lino Posted October 19, 2009 That is not a "how" . Go back to school for a few years. What you have given is a bad attempt at being analytical with the process. Which do you think the body will do first? Correct a problem with the liver or kidneys, or give you third eye powers or third leg powers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrasattva Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) Lino you are on the right track. The juice goes where it is needed in the body & "Sparks" things up. A detox and healing process starts 1st then a activation & rewiring occurs and as you begin to have more energy in various centers and you learn how to move the energy where needed, more abilities start to manifest. Its best to just train and let things be than to force siddhis and also chase after them. They happen on their own if you have real juice. Peace Santi Edited October 19, 2009 by Vajrasattva Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lino Posted October 19, 2009 Lino you are on the right track. The juice goes where it is needed in the body & "Sparks" things up. A detox and healing process starts 1st then a activation & rewiring occurs and as you begin to have more energy in various centers and you learn how to move the energy where needed, more abilities start to manifest. Its best to just train and let things be than to force siddhis and also chase after them. They happen on their own if you have real juice. Peace Santi Thank you I just needed to throw in the remark about third leg powers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrahridaya Posted October 19, 2009 Which do you think the body will do first? Correct a problem with the liver or kidneys, or give you third eye powers or third leg powers? Exactly!! Unless you subvert through dark intentions, or you have karmas latent in your unconscious that reflect this type of subverting. If you are on the right path... your chi energy is in alignment with universal flow, so your progression will be naturally healthy instead of contradictory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrahridaya Posted October 19, 2009 Thank you I just needed to throw in the remark about third leg powers. HAAAAI YAAAA!!! There's a video somewhere that is sooo funny that I cannot find, but might not be appropriate to post anyway. But it's a Chinese video of a man and a women sex boxing in a Kung Fu... Oh I found it. Warning... if anyone here is abstaining from seeing nudie pics or pics of sexual conduct... please do not enter. Chinese Sexual Kung Fu video... Please see this in good fun and jest!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capital Posted October 19, 2009 I must say, I laughed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrahridaya Posted October 19, 2009 I must say, I laughed. Oh good!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted October 19, 2009 Lots of work for one ejaculation. She's hot though, no doubt. HAAAAI YAAAA!!! There's a video somewhere that is sooo funny that I cannot find, but might not be appropriate to post anyway. But it's a Chinese video of a man and a women sex boxing in a Kung Fu... Oh I found it. Warning... if anyone here is abstaining from seeing nudie pics or pics of sexual conduct... please do not enter. Chinese Sexual Kung Fu video... Please see this in good fun and jest!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrahridaya Posted October 19, 2009 Lots of work for one ejaculation. She's hot though, no doubt. LOL! Almost got a woody huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted October 19, 2009 Dude I'm in full-lotus so it's internal climax for me! Woody has no limit for me! haha. Seriously that video is anti-Taoism and reveals a total opposite lack of understanding. As per martial arts -- at first it was very much "innocent" -- the men practice AWAY from females - then the females started to sneak into the male training area -- sneaking peaks at the men -- but still very innocent. Then around the early 1980s there were stupid sex jokes and "tantric" sex scenes in the martial arts movies. Meanwhile the martial arts got BAD -- low quality -- lack of skill.. Now we get this porn-martial arts. Sad, sad. I much prefer Deadly Avengers! But guess what men these days have to think Deadly Avengers are Gay! Sad but true -- men can't watch Deadly Avengers without getting a woody! haha. No -- Deadly Avengers were about real men bonding -- real love -- through real martial arts training (or maybe Peking Opera style).... Too bad more money was spent on the SETS then on the actors -- I mean the SETS rock but the actors drank themselves to death.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrahridaya Posted October 19, 2009 did she die? LOL No, but she got pounded and sprayed pretty intensely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~jK~ Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) O Edited December 5, 2009 by ~jK~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrahridaya Posted October 19, 2009 Freeks o' da week- Queer o' da Year. Sad ppl. boy o' boy. What ta' do? Sorry if you felt this disruptive.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~jK~ Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) O Edited December 5, 2009 by ~jK~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajrahridaya Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) I'm glad I don't live in your head. Seriously... that's pretty severe. But... "Since everything is but an apparition, having nothing to do with good or bad, acceptance or rejection, one may well burst out in laughter" -Longchenpa Edited October 20, 2009 by Vajrahridaya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mat black Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) Everyone says their stuff can awaken psychic abilities, but nobody quite says how.... Because to focus on psychic abilities and to say how to obtain them is just a diversion. If abilities arise or occur as an indirect result of cultivation, that might be fine, if they don't arise that's fine too. To the mind that is not seeking it makes no difference either way. Thoughts of obtaining abilities can create feelings of desire in the mind of the cultivator, and feelings of greed and desire are one of the biggest impediments. That's why it is not often spoken about. Edited October 20, 2009 by mat black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
