VAJ posture: Tibetian Yoga Masters

[voidisyinyang]

http://www.voyagestohell.com/tbs/books/051...f_vairocana.htm

 

Part 1-2-3 = Tibetian Yoga Masters -- old footage of the REAL deal!

 

 

 

 

This thread is dedicated to the

 

VAJ posters on taobums. haha.

 

Highest Yoga Tantra and Mahamudra

 

By Master Sheng-yen Lu

Translated by Cheng Yew Chung, Edited by Dance Smith

 

This was translated from Grandmaster Lu's 51st book, 無上密與大手印.

 

CHAPTER 3 - The Meditation of Vairocana

 

First we must learn the seven point meditation posture, which is also known as the seven points of Vairocana. This meditation posture strives to achieve balance in mind and body through the sitting posture. In India, this position for sitting meditation is called the full lotus position, and we know it as the crossed-legged position. As often seen in Buddha statues, the legs are in the vajra posture, with both legs crossed and the soles facing upwards. Thus it is known as the full vajra position.

 

Sitting in the full lotus position allows the body and mind to stay in complete equilibrium, removing discursive thoughts and facilitating blood circulation. It allows the body to remain soft yet able to endure hardships. Through the seven point meditation posture, one may obtain primordial wisdom, achieve meditational stability, and directly attain Buddhahood.

 

Why is it called the seven points of Vairocana? It is because Vairocana Buddha is the central Dhyani Buddha of the Five Buddhas, known also as the Great Sun Tathagata (Dainichi Nyorai). Vairocana is the principal deity of Esoteric Buddhism, and is the main deity of both the Vajradhatu Mandala and Garbhadhatu Mandala, symbolizing Universal Illumination.

 

The image of Vairocana within the Diamond, or Vajradhatu, Mandala is known as the Wisdom Truth Body of the Great Sun, in which he displays the Wisdom-Fist Mudra. The image of Vairocana in the Womb, or Garbhadhatu, Mandala, represents the principle or reason (in Japanese, Ri) aspect of Dainichi, and is known as the Principle Truth Body of the Great Sun. In this image Vairocana displays the Dharmadhatu Mudra (in Japanese, Hokaijyo-in).

 

According to the Buddhist sutra, the image of Vairocana is described as follows: Vairocana sits on an eight-petalled lotus throne; he has a body gold in colour, appearing like a Bodhisattva seated cross-legged on a jewel lotus, wearing a five Buddha precious crown painted white. His back is adorned with the combined five coloured circular light, his head is encircled with a cloud, and his body is encircled in a colourful aura of multi-layered lights. He appears with shoulder-length, deep maroon hair and long, pierced earlobes adorned with gold earrings. His neck is adorned with layers of ornaments and precious jewels, pearl and jade necklaces, blue pearl ornaments and a garland that hangs down to his knees. His arms are adorned with pearl and jade armlets, and his wrists are decorated with gold bracelets, which may also be worn on his upper arms. His hands are placed together, palms facing upward, with the left palm covering the right palm; the thumbs of each hand touch each other, placed beneath the navel to display the image of entering absorption. He is dressed in light, white celestial clothing, wears a skirt made of different textiles such as blue brocade and silk, and his waist is wrapped with a green girdle belt.

 

Inwardly, the merits of Vairocana illuminate the dharma realm of Suchness, and outwardly, they illuminate all sentient beings without hindrances. These merits comprise all virtues and merits as a complete whole, and remain constant and unchanged. They also embody the mind of all sentient beings and all Buddhas, whose light is omnipresent. This is the light of this Tathagata who illuminates the dharma realms in equanimity.

 

Vairocana is never seen in a standing posture, but only in the sitting position. This carries a deeper meaning, as he is the central figure of the Dhyani Buddhas and his image shows him entering into profoundly deep meditation. Thus, the teaching of Mahamudra begins with the meditation posture of Vairocana, where the legs are crossed in the vajra posture of the full lotus position, with the soles of the feet facing upwards.

 

Some people whose legs are short or whose joints are stiff may find it impossible to cross their legs and achieve the full lotus position. However, they should at least attempt to adjust their soles to face upwards and pull their legs towards the body to achieve a balanced posture.

 

The hands form the Dharmadhatu Mudra with palms facing upwards, resting beneath the navel point, with the right hand placed over the left hand and the thumbs lightly touching. Alternately, one may form a mudra with tip of the middle fingers touching each other and the thumbs placed at the lower portion of the index fingers, and maintain this mudra consistently. We can use either of these two mudras.

 

Keep the chest up and slightly move the shoulders backward. The chin is slightly tucked in, just as a soldier would raise his chest and tuck his chin in training.

 

Press the tongue lightly against the upper palate. This is of vital importance, as it is what Taoists would call bridging heaven and earth or building a celestial bridge. When animals enter into hibernation, their tongues rest in a position touching the upper palate. When a practitioner initially enters into the practice of Mahamudra, he would not be able to truly enter into tranquility if his tongue does not touch his upper palate. In India, the act of pressing the tongue against the upper palate is called Khechari. This is not performed simply by touching the upper roof of the palate with the tongue, but also involves rolling the tongue backwards so that it reaches deep into the throat (slipping behind the nasopharynx) and presses against either nasal opening. In this way, one achieves balance between body and mind, for the disruptive flow of breath is calmed. In this way life can be prolonged, and ones essence is kept in place without depletion. The pressing of the tongue against the upper palate requires bending the tongue like a hook to hook against the inner nostril. The Taoist views the tongue as a bridge between ones shen or spirit, which resides in the head, and ones body and heart.

 

The next aspect of Vairocana meditation is the act of gazing at an object. Most practitioners of the Mahamudra may sit cross-legged in the lotus posture, with the hands positioned beneath the navel (resting on the lap), lift the chest, and press the tongue against the upper palate, yet their minds may still wonder, generating discursive thoughts. Thus, when we want to pacify the mind, we must begin by focusing on one point. The training starts with a person taking an object, placing it within five and a half feet of their gaze, and concentrating on it without letting the gaze waver. In time, one should be able to gaze longer, and once the focus is fixed, the mind is stabilized. Otherwise, the mind wanders. When the mind drifts away, the lackluster gaze makes the person appear dull. Therefore, one must begin with training the mind to focus on one point, as that is the key to pacifying the mind.

 

The first of the five lineages of Tantrayana is the Tathagata lineage, known also as the Buddha lineage. The principal Buddha of the Buddha lineage is Vairocana Buddha. The mother of the Tathagata lineage is Bodhisattva Buddha Eye (Locana). The Light King of the Tathagata lineage is Vijayosnisa. The Wrathful One is Acala. The consort of the Tathagata Lineage is Aparajitavidyarajni. The heart of the Tathagata lineage involves secret mantras. These constitute the divisions of the Buddha lineage, which also includes their many retinues. When we begin the practice of Mahamudra, we must first learn the meditation posture of Vairocana so that we may gain access into the Buddha lineage and attain Buddhahood within this very body.

 

Know that the cross-legged full lotus position is meant to take advantage of the circulation of xiaxing chi (downward moving energy which covers the area from the navel to the toes), and is not a pose taken for aesthetic reasons. It is a position that facilitates the smooth circulation of the downward moving energy.

 

Place the hands evenly [on your lap], with the tips of the middle fingers touching each other, and keep the thumbs close to the lower portion of the index fingers. This keeps the body and mind in complete balance, and allows the body temperature, the circulation of chi and blood circulation to stay in good balance.

 

By raising the chest and tucking in the chin, the spirit and energy circulate throughout the whole body without hindrance. If we do not raise our chest and tuck our chin, insufficiency of spirit and energy will lead to falling asleep during practice. Many have asked me why they fall asleep upon entering meditation. This is all due to the chest not being raised and the chin not being tucked in, resulting in an absence of spirit and energy. Too much relaxation will lead to falling asleep.

 

When the tongue is pressed against the upper palate, it allows the shangxing chi (upward-moving wind, or Udana in Sanskrit) to move downward, and the xiaxing chi (downward-moving wind or Apana in Sanskrit) to move upwards. The two energy currents nurture each other through this approach. This important point shall be elucidated in chapter four.

 

The act of gazing at one object, which is also the method of Focusing the Spirit into the Tianxin Location [the forehead, the seat of the spiritual eye], is a major training of The Illuminated Way of Meditation, and helps to focus the mind on one point. With this focus of mind, one enters into meditative absorption. We can place a vajra or dorje about five and a half feet away from us and gaze at it. The vajra is a precious Tantric ritual object symbolizing indestructibility. When we look at the vajra, we should revere it as though it were the Chinese emperors elongated jade tablet. This will make the meditation meaningful and tangible.

 

Vairocana, the Great Sun Tathagata, once expounded the dharma at the abode of Mahesvara. The Tathagata at that time had appeared in a body of gold, with his hair piled on top of his head, forming a topknot (Sanskrit: ushnisha) that appeared like a crown with the Five Buddhas seated on it. The Tathagata was radiating lights of many colours, and was clothed in silk like a white celestial robe. This is a sign of attaining perfect enlightenment in the Suddhavasa Heaven. Some people assume that Vairocana, the Great Sun Tathagata, is the Sun God. However, I feel that while the Great Sun Tathagata is synonymous with the sun itself, which turns darkness into brightness, the suns light is divided into day and night, and there are places where sunlight can never reach. Thus, the word great is added to the word sun to signify that the light of the Buddha is undivided by day or night, interior or exterior areas, as the wisdom light of the Great Sun Tathagata shines completely in equanimity throughout all dharma realms.

 

I shall reveal a secret to you, my readers. When Vairocana was residing in the abode of Mahesvara and giving his discourses, among the audience was one kumara whose name was Padmakumara.

 

Padmakumara placed his palms together in respect and asked the Buddha, Why is the Tathagata seen sitting, and not standing?

 

To sit is to abide within the great dharma realm in tranquility, and I make full use of the seven point sitting position to instruct sentient beings.

 

How should the instruction be carried out? Padmakumara asked.

 

Through the Mahamudra that is constant and indestructible, which harmonizes the body and mind.

 

Padmakumaras questions set into motion a series of events that would result in a specific time in the distant future where I, as Padmakumara, would deliver sentient beings. I accepted the decree of Vairocana and came as a manifestation of Padmakumara to transmit the Mahamudra. This is how it started, and the event itself is a celestial secret, which was neither mysterious nor improvised. Everything has its design and purpose.

 

Mahamudra is anything but simple. One begins with the seven point Vairocana sitting posture, balancing and controlling the functions of chi and the meridians. Through the full lotus position, the meditation mudra, the raising of the chest and tucking in of the chin, the pressing of the tongue against the upper palate, and the gazing at one object, one harmonizes the body and mind. Only by mastering these prerequisites and setting a good practice foundation can one begin the practice of the heart teaching of purity and perfect realization. Before one can arrive at the state of non-meditation and non-attainment, one should start with the preliminaries of meditation and attainment.

 

Mahamudra involves the practice of winds, channels and drops. It is an approach for attaining Buddhahood in this very body, and not some empty doctrines to dwell upon as a theoretical endeavour. It requires the individual to put it into practice, to cultivate, to truly gain a spiritual response, from which he shall know that I, Sheng-yen Lu, do not make this up, for what is being said here is absolutely true.

[mantis]

Interesting post as usual, drew. It's too bad these kind of topics usually don't make it very far but staring at goats or throwing huge chi balls do .

[Capital]

I feel the great and overwhelming need to make a 'Your mom!' joke...

 

I won't though, as this article was quite a bit of help to me today in getting closer to a true full-lotus. It's hard though... I have rather stocky legs.

[voidisyinyang]

Effie Chow vids -- she's the REAL mom -- plus the "bully" Peter Young:

 

http://naturalresonancerevolution.blogspot.com

[Vajrasattva]

Interesting post as usual, drew. It's too bad these kind of topics usually don't make it very far but staring at goats or throwing huge chi balls do .

 

 

While you & Drew where still living off MOMMY & DADDY, I was actually getting transmissions for a lot of this stuff by actual LAMAS : ).

 

 

Again

 

DREW - LOTUS POSE IS JUST AN ASANA DO NOT GET ATTACHED.

 

MANTIS - COME HAVE A GOOD TIME WHEN YOU ARE READY.

 

Peace and love to you both.

 

God Bless,

 

VAG

[ryansmith]

 

God Bless,

 

VAG

haha

[mantis]

While you & Drew where still living off MOMMY & DADDY, I was actually getting transmissions for a lot of this stuff by actual LAMAS : ).

Again

 

DREW - LOTUS POSE IS JUST AN ASANA DO NOT GET ATTACHED.

 

MANTIS - COME HAVE A GOOD TIME WHEN YOU ARE READY.

 

Peace and love to you both.

 

God Bless,

 

VAG

 

So you where already living on your own at 13-14 and taking trips to Tibet to get transmissions? Right.

[ryansmith]

So you where already living on your own at 13-14 and taking trips to Tibet to get transmissions? Right.

You don't have to go to Tibet to get a Tibetan Lamas transmission.

[Sunya]

Drew, you're obsessed. as you've been told time and time again.

 

in Vajrayana, posture is only secondary to right view (through philosophical study), right intention (bodhicitta) and right method(proper meditation). go find a Lama and ask him to explain to you if you don't believe me.

 

who the hell is master sheng yen lu? you're reading chinese sources for tibetan buddhism? that's like asking an american to teach to you native american shamanism anyway this guy isn't authorized and apparently is just a cult leader. maybe he hangs out with Dorje Chang Buddha Super King Bling VIII ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lu_Sheng-yen

 

 

anyway nobody is denying that the Vajra posture is important Drew, really. it's just you're giving it too much credit. it's just a means.. not an end. and there are other means as well. you're stuck. move beyond your attachment. stop sucking the thumb.

Edited November 4, 2009 by mikaelz

[mantis]

You don't have to go to Tibet to get a Tibetan Lamas transmission.

 

Sweet! Now I can become a Tibetan Master from the safety of my own home for four simple payments of $19.99!!!

[ralis]

Drew, you're obsessed. as you've been told time and time again.

 

 

And you are not?

 

ralis

[voidisyinyang]

Anyone else want to turn the full-lotus into "drew's obsession" so they don't have to master it? haha.

 

Maybe these dudes think I'm obsessed:

 

(BASIC Meditation posture: full-lotus)

 

http://www.samye.org/posture.htm

Edited November 4, 2009 by drewhempel

[nac]

Is there anyone here in this forum who's actually against the full-lotus posture? No offense, but someone needs to stop acting like a n00b.

 

Anyway, thanks to drewhempel for the materials.

Edited November 4, 2009 by nac

[voidisyinyang]

Must be the "Hempel Effect"

 

http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=5295

 

Is there anyone here in this forum who's actually against the full-lotus posture? No offense, but someone needs to stop acting like a n00b.

 

Anyway, thanks to drewhempel for the materials.

[theoddore]

Must be the "Hempel Effect"

 

http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=5295

 

 

Question for you, Drew--How does one prevent one's leg's from falling asleep in this posture. Everything I attempt it beyond the 20min mark, my legs go numb and I feel like they have been severed from my body. What to do about this? Your thoughts?

 

I can't imagine 4 hours like this. Wouldn't it cause serious damage?

[Vajrasattva]

Sweet! Now I can become a Tibetan Master from the safety of my own home for four simple payments of $19.99!!!

 

 

haha so now I learned for 19.99 Bonpo & Dzogchen & Nyingma Vajrayana Tantra?

 

 

Peace,

 

VAG

 

 

Drew, you're obsessed. as you've been told time and time again.

 

in Vajrayana, posture is only secondary to right view (through philosophical study), right intention (bodhicitta) and right method(proper meditation). go find a Lama and ask him to explain to you if you don't believe me.

 

who the hell is master sheng yen lu? you're reading chinese sources for tibetan buddhism? that's like asking an american to teach to you native american shamanism anyway this guy isn't authorized and apparently is just a cult leader. maybe he hangs out with Dorje Chang Buddha Super King Bling VIII ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lu_Sheng-yen

anyway nobody is denying that the Vajra posture is important Drew, really. it's just you're giving it too much credit. it's just a means.. not an end. and there are other means as well. you're stuck. move beyond your attachment. stop sucking the thumb.

 

 

well to be fair Dalai Lama told Tao & I that china & japan had tantric masters before tantra was brought in to tibet.

 

so it possible.

[voidisyinyang]

Excellent question! Answer -- the legs go totally numb because your energy is going to your upper body and then it cycles back downward causing the leg channels to open up again. Yes this is painful so it's best to first practice the "small universe" level 1 sitting meditation c.d. from http://springforestqigong.com As your channels open up more then you can sit in full-lotus longer. Finally when the 3rd Eye opens up there is the "macrocosmic orbit" which means as long as you have a steady supply of JING energy coming in to the perineum point while in full-lotus you can sit as long as you want -- and the chi-shen energy will cycle out of the 3rd eye back into where ever the jing energy came from.

 

Question for you, Drew--How does one prevent one's leg's from falling asleep in this posture. Everything I attempt it beyond the 20min mark, my legs go numb and I feel like they have been severed from my body. What to do about this? Your thoughts?

 

I can't imagine 4 hours like this. Wouldn't it cause serious damage?

[Vajrasattva]

Question for you, Drew--How does one prevent one's leg's from falling asleep in this posture. Everything I attempt it beyond the 20min mark, my legs go numb and I feel like they have been severed from my body. What to do about this? Your thoughts?

 

I can't imagine 4 hours like this. Wouldn't it cause serious damage?

 

 

you are better off doing 20 min of shirshasana or standing stake or 20 min of walking meditation or 20 min of yab yum with a REAL WOMAN (not this imaginary b.s. of some chicky in a mcdonalds who is 14 who drew sends a squirt gun of chi orgasm to that feels nothing but mean while in drews head she is fully wanting him and dripping wet. )

 

I know of people that can give you full orgasm at distance.

 

Drew when you are ready i can put you in contact with them.

 

And guess what they do not need LOTUS to do this.....

[voidisyinyang]

More on the Standing Posture and the inverted pendulum

 

http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cac...IytPA&pli=1

 

haha so now I learned for 19.99 Bonpo & Dzogchen & Nyingma Vajrayana Tantra?

Peace,

 

VAG

well to be fair Dalai Lama told Tao & I that china & japan had tantric masters before tantra was brought in to tibet.

 

so it possible.

 

 

That's hilarious -- that was only the first time, an accident, she screamed in bliss and the next day fought her coworker off the register so she could serve me in giggles. 2006 I think it was. I've initiated hundreds more since then. haha. And yoga in minneapolis has skyrocketed in the meantime.

 

Waiting for my royalty checks. thank you very much.

 

you are better off doing 20 min of shirshasana or standing stake or 20 min of walking meditation or 20 min of yab yum with a REAL WOMAN (not this imaginary b.s. of some chicky in a mcdonalds who is 14 who drew sends a squirt gun of chi orgasm to that feels nothing but mean while in drews head she is fully wanting him and dripping wet. )

 

I know of people that can give you full orgasm at distance.

 

Drew when you are ready i can put you in contact with them.

 

And guess what they do not need LOTUS to do this.....

[mantis]

So you where already living on your own at 13-14 and taking trips to Tibet to get transmissions? Right.

 

 

haha so now I learned for 19.99 Bonpo & Dzogchen & Nyingma Vajrayana Tantra?

Peace,

 

VAG

well to be fair Dalai Lama told Tao & I that china & japan had tantric masters before tantra was brought in to tibet.

 

so it possible.

 

Why I am not surprised you ignored this post, hah.

[Vajrasattva]

More on the Standing Posture and the inverted pendulum

 

http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cac...IytPA&pli=1

That's hilarious -- that was only the first time, an accident, she screamed in bliss and the next day fought her coworker off the register so she could serve me in giggles. 2006 I think it was. I've initiated hundreds more since then. haha. And yoga in minneapolis has skyrocketed in the meantime.

 

Waiting for my royalty checks. thank you very much.

 

 

You are delusional

[voidisyinyang]

Especially when I sit in full-lotus! haha. I mean it's a total hallucination that full-lotus posture is.

 

hey can you post your awesome full-lotus photo again which I commented on BEFORE I knew you did shakti transmission? haha.

 

Still I did enjoy your spontaneous kundalini standing awakening vid posted recently -- with your arms up and your neck going back and forth.

 

The music -- well it does hurt the ears -- whites have less neuromelanin in their inner ears and therefore have less tolerance for sound amplitude.

 

But nonwestern music has secret qualities detailed in THE HEMPEL EFFECT

 

http://naturalresonancerevolution.blogspot...er-classic.html

Edited November 4, 2009 by drewhempel

[nac]

What does mainstream science think of Hempel Effect? I mean, what kind of reception will it get in a skeptics forum?

[voidisyinyang]

That's hilarious -- equating the skeptics with "mainstream" science! haha.

 

http://paranormaltrickster.blogspot.com/20...paranormal.html

 

 

What does mainstream science think of Hempel Effect? I mean, what kind of reception will it get in a skeptics forum?

Edited November 4, 2009 by drewhempel

[nac]

That's hilarious -- equating the skeptics with "mainstream" science! haha.

 

http://paranormaltrickster.blogspot.com/20...paranormal.html

So I take it most skeptics will laugh it out of court? ;