Flying Phoenix Chi Kung

[daobro]

12 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

 

This is amazing! Did you end up taking the meds in the end?

No, but I probably should have.
 

12 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

I’ve been regularly clearing cold symptoms with FP too

 

Nice - any specific meditations/breath controls that you use?

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2 hours ago, daobro said:

No, but I probably should have.

Well it’s interesting to see that you didn’t need to because of FP

 

 

2 hours ago, daobro said:

Nice - any specific meditations/breath controls that you use?

Long form daily plus I rotate through each exercise so I do each of them at least once a week

[tao stillness]

To Daobro: No, have not tried acupuncture. My medical clairvoyant in the past tested acupuncture for me and found that it would not result in better sensing of subtle energies. The problem lies in my corpus callosum preventing signals from the right brain hemisphere crossing over the callosum. He also recently tested me for EBV and he found it mainly in my gut, but also in my brain. He Rx 2 bottles each for 2 different ayurvedic herbal formulas and he said this would knock out the EBV. But I would also have to start going to bed by 10pm so that the immune system could rebuild. It rebuilds during the hours of 10pm until 1pm, per Ayurvedic science. I will do the herbs but not the bedtime curfew as I am a night owl since I reached retirement. 

Congrats on those amazing healings of yours! A famous Vedic astrologer who is heavily into subtle energy healing told me recently that when he has cold or flu symptoms, he inhales nebulized ionic zinc, and his symptoms are gone in 30-60 minutes. I've posted here in the past that in 2014 I healed a serious virus overnight by doing qigong for 3.5 hours, after having been in bed for 8 days from that  illness. A Chinese doctor claims that he grew a new set of teeth after doing qigong 5 hours a day for a number of years. What is almost as unbelievable as growing new teeth, is how does any doctor find 5 hours a day of free time? He probably did not own a television or computer, or have a family or a dog. 

[Klinsly]

On 12/9/2024 at 9:59 PM, daobro said:

2. A couple nights ago, after playing basketball in the cold, I felt a tickle in my throat. I drank a preventative formula from my Chinese Medicine doctor, chewed some ginger, and did an hour of FP (Long Form, Monk Gazing at the Moon, all of the 90s meditations, and some seated meditations). I immediately felt the cold symptoms dissipate and the urge to go to sleep. The morning after, I felt completely recovered with no trace of the cold whatsoever.

 

This is fascinating, because I have been practicing this in real time too, though not the same just my usual jumbled mixture of vol 1 and 2 which ever moves I'm feeling like doing to get in my 30 mins a day or so. But Both the people I live with had cold/flu like symptoms and the worst I got was a scratchy throat for a night or two. I have successfully used FPQ to keep myself healthy over the last year and it can even cause a bounce back from a night of drinking too much when it happens. Though not Qigong related another system I study uses a visualization of a bright orange ball of light in and surrounding the throat chakra to kill virus' etc. Worth trying if nothing else is working.

[DanC]

Just a quick question for Sifu Terry regarding the Flash Meditations, I know you recommend learning the volumes in order, but if I remember correctly an older post from some years back said you could technically learn them with the beginner volumes... Is this correct?

[zen-bear]

On 12/13/2024 at 5:19 AM, DanC said:

Just a quick question for Sifu Terry regarding the Flash Meditations, I know you recommend learning the volumes in order, but if I remember correctly an older post from some years back said you could technically learn them with the beginner volumes... Is this correct?

Hello DanC,

 

The 90-second Flash Meditations are on Volume 5 of the DVD series, which I suppose you can refer to as the "beginner volumes"--even though the FPHHCM Long Form on Volume 4 is the capstone meditation of entire the FP System (and its practice alone subsumes the practice of every other exercise in the system) and is all one needs to maintain strong immunity, the ability to cure oneself of disease such as toxemia (colds and flus) and cultivate potent and verifiable healing powers.

I programmed the CKFH DVD series with exactly the order of practicing the FP Qigong system that GM Doo Wai taught me and my cadre of students from 1991 to 1997.  Hence, for best results, do the Vol.5 Flash Meditations after one has mastered the practice of the Volume 4 Long Form and can swear to its  results.

 

But you did remind me that I once said that one could learn the Vol. 5 meditations alongside the Volume 1 standing meditations--simply because they are so simple and and easy to do.  However, if you do them before you've gone through the system and thoroughly penetrated/mastered the capstone Vol. 4 Long Form Meditation, you won't feel the full energizing and healing potential of the Vol. 5 meditations.  They won't feel as powerful if you do them early on.  You can prove this to yourself.  Practice them now.  And then practice them again after you've done the Vol.4 Long Form Med. regularly for about 6 months.

I hope this clarifies.

 

Sifu Terry

P.S.  Enjoy your practice.  FP Qigong will keep one warm and dry during the cold winter if you're in similar climate that I'm in:  21ºF daylight temp. with 88% preciptation (rain, ice and snow).

 

 

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Edited December 21, 2024 by zen-bear

[zen-bear]

To supplement Paragraph #4 of my post here on 10/17/2024 at 6:52 PM, zen-bear (on page 237), here is another attempt to post a super-downsized copy of one of the  letters that the court of Queen Elizabeth II had sent to Grandmaster Doo Wai, thanking him for his health services, specifically mentioning his "herbs."  However, GM Doo Wai told me that he did specific healings for the Queen and other members of the Royal Family.  Hence, no wonder that then Prince Charles--now King of England--had acknowledged the value of Qigong to public health as quoted at the start of Ch. 5 of Wong Kiew Kit's book (as cited by Pak_Satrio on page 236.)  

 

GM Doo Wai's healings of serious diseases and chronic illnesses was and always is a combination of herbs, acupressure, and energy healing following his diagnosis. 
(*the photo was reduced to DB's measly 10kb limit, which makes it hard to read.  Try using a magnifying glass on your computer screen.  And complain to Daobums about this absurdly low size/resolution ceiling for attachments.)

Edited December 14, 2024 by zen-bear
attached better resolution photo

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8 hours ago, zen-bear said:

To supplement Paragraph #4 of my post here on 10/17/2024 at 6:52 PM, zen-bear (on page 237), here is another attempt to post a super-downsized copy of one of the  letters that the court of Queen Elizabeth II had sent to Grandmaster Doo Wai, thanking him for his health services, specifically mentioning his "herbs."  However, GM Doo Wai told me that he did specific healings for the Queen and other members of the Royal Family.  Hence, no wonder that then Prince Charles--now King of England--had acknowledged the value of Qigong to public health as quoted at the start of Ch. 5 of Wong Kiew Kit's book (as cited by Pak_Satrio on page 236.)  

 

GM Doo Wai's healings of serious diseases and chronic illnesses was and always is a combination of herbs, acupressure, and energy healing following his diagnosis. 
(*the photo was reduced to DB's measly 10kb limit, which makes it hard to read.  Try using a magnifying glass on your computer screen.  And complain to Daobums about this absurdly low size/resolution ceiling for attachments.)

Here is the pic in higher resolution, it lets me post up to 16.2 MB for some reason 

[BluePickle]

Hi
Ive been reading around the forum and ive decided to try FPCK.

ive been struggling to find a comprehensive practice for self healing. active practices without a teacher are hard to navigate on my own and FP can be practiced without a teacher and is not a forceful system from what i understand so id like to try it.
i have a few questions

1. Are the DVD's on amazon? i couldn't find Vol 1 and 2 there

 

2. Where should i start? Vol 1 and 2? Are the beginner postures included in Tai Chi for Health Yang Short Form? or is unrelated to FP?
or better yet, is there a beginner exercise i can try before investing into the DVD?

 

3. I've read the FP training schedule, i know the importance of everyday practice however i often find myself needing more time to integrate practices. Is it recommended to keep up daily practice even if this arises? 

4. Is it okay to do exercise for longer than 2 weeks and not progress to the next one if i feel it is necessary?

 

Much love


 

Edited December 28, 2024 by BluePickle

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7 hours ago, BluePickle said:

Hi
Ive been reading around the forum and ive decided to try FPCK.

ive been struggling to find a comprehensive practice for self healing. active practices without a teacher are hard to navigate on my own and FP can be practiced without a teacher and is not a forceful system from what i understand so id like to try it.
i have a few questions

1. Are the DVD's on amazon? i couldn't find Vol 1 and 2 there

 

2. Where should i start? Vol 1 and 2? Are the beginner postures included in Tai Chi for Health Yang Short Form? or is unrelated to FP?
or better yet, is there a beginner exercise i can try before investing into the DVD?

 

3. I've read the FP training schedule, i know the importance of everyday practice however i often find myself needing more time to integrate practices. Is it recommended to keep up daily practice even if this arises? 

4. Is it okay to do exercise for longer than 2 weeks and not progress to the next one if i feel it is necessary?

 

Much love


 

Hi!

 

1. Are the DVD's on amazon? i couldn't find Vol 1 and 2 there

You can buy them here: https://www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

 

2. Where should i start? Vol 1 and 2?

 

I would start with volume 1 first. Focus on the static postures to fill yourself up with Flying Phoenix qi and then do Bending the Bows once or twice a week.

 

Are the beginner postures included in Tai Chi for Health Yang Short Form? or is unrelated to FP?

 

Unrelated

or better yet, is there a beginner exercise i can try before investing into the DVD?

This is Monk Holds Pearl, the third static posture from DVD 1. I do not encourage people using leaked videos of Flying Phoenix but at least this one is of Grand Master Doo Wai, not some random person doing it incorrectly. You can do it standing, seated or lying down. Just ignore the part about the ginger. Do it for at least 5 mins but the best is 10 mins or more. Try it for a week or two and let us know how you feel.

 

 

3. I've read the FP training schedule, i know the importance of everyday practice however i often find myself needing more time to integrate practices. Is it recommended to keep up daily practice even if this arises? 

Yes, daily practice is always necessary to make progress. Usually I learn new practices outside of my time dedicated to daily practices.

4. Is it okay to do exercise for longer than 2 weeks and not progress to the next one if i feel it is necessary?

 

This is not only ok, but I would actually encourage it. If I could start Flying Phoenix again I would do the first DVD for a year before moving on. It may seem boring because it’s mostly static postures but you will set yourself up very well for further exercises. There is no need to rush to learn them all so fast.

[zen-bear]

On 12/27/2024 at 8:42 PM, BluePickle said:

Hi
Ive been reading around the forum and ive decided to try FPCK.

ive been struggling to find a comprehensive practice for self healing. active practices without a teacher are hard to navigate on my own and FP can be practiced without a teacher and is not a forceful system from what i understand so id like to try it.
i have a few questions

1. Are the DVD's on amazon? i couldn't find Vol 1 and 2 there

 

2. Where should i start? Vol 1 and 2? Are the beginner postures included in Tai Chi for Health Yang Short Form? or is unrelated to FP?
or better yet, is there a beginner exercise i can try before investing into the DVD?

 

3. I've read the FP training schedule, i know the importance of everyday practice however i often find myself needing more time to integrate practices. Is it recommended to keep up daily practice even if this arises? 

4. Is it okay to do exercise for longer than 2 weeks and not progress to the next one if i feel it is necessary?

 

Much love


 

Hi Blue Pickle,

 

Welcome to the Flying Phoenix Qigong community.  FP Qigong is a unique and excellent healing Qigong system--that works.  It imparts tangibly energizing and profoundly restorative effects that can be further "stored" or reserved in the body and that can ultimately empower one to be a healer--if one has the will to become one.  Once the Qigong is established, its benefits are repeatable and verifiable with every practice.  And most of transformative health benefits can be done just by practicing the material on the  DVD series, without an instructor like myself in the room--and especially if one already has some background in Chinese internal martial arts.  Learning how to heal with the FP Healing Qi is more efficient with one-on-one tutelage.

 

Further answers to  supplement Pak Satrio's very good answers your questions :

 

1. Are the DVD's on amazon? i couldn't find Vol 1 and 2 there

• The 6-volume series is always here on my website:   http://www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

 

2. Where should i start? Vol 1 and 2? Are the beginner postures included in Tai Chi for Health Yang Short Form? or is unrelated to FP?
or better yet, is there a beginner exercise i can try before investing into the DVD?

• Yes, most people start wiht Volumes 1 and 2 to get a good taste of the FP Qigong system.

Adept practice of Yang Tai Chi Chuan will make learning FP Qigong easier.  But the two arts are completely unrelated.  They different origins and completely different histories.  And the yogic methodology of FP Qigong is very, very different from that of Tai Chi.

 

 

3. I've read the FP training schedule, i know the importance of everyday practice however i often find myself needing more time to integrate practices. Is it recommended to keep up daily practice even if this arises? 
• Yes.   For absolute beginners, the better one keeps to a regular daily practice schedule and does NOT mix in other practices nor do them too close temporally to one's FP Qigong practicr srssions, the faster the FP Healing Qi becomes tangible and takes effect.

But it's quite okay to miss a day of practice each week over the course of a long term--let's say 6-month-- practice of this system.
As mentioned in the earlier years of this thread, a standard practice suggested by GM Doo Wai in the 1990's was 108 consecutive days of practice. 
OPTIONAL:  As per the Youtube video featuring GMDW, one can hold slivers of raw ginger between one's teeth throughout one's FP practice.

4. Is it okay to do exercise for longer than 2 weeks and not progress to the next one if i feel it is necessary?

• Yes.  The training schedule is not set in stone.  One can spend 1 month or 2 months or longer to become familiar/get saturated with the effects of any of the Volumes.  When one gets to the longer moving meditations on Volume 3 and the capstone meditation on Volume 4, that requires a good 2 to 6 months--depending how good one is at learning forms-- just to memorize the movements.

 

Enjoy your practice once you begin.

btw, besides the CKFH DVD series, I also teach weekly Zoom classes and both beginning and Advanced FP Qigong practice.  The schedule of my Zoom classes will be coming soon on the next (January) issue of my free monthly Newsletter on substack (link below).

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

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Edited January 8 by zen-bear

[VinC]

Hi. I'm new to FP- got Volumes 1 & 2 and have been doing them for a week now. I have done SFQ Level 1, 5 Elements, Level 2 and Small Universe Meditation, and I was also trained in Pangu Shengong.  After reading so many positives I wanted to try FP.  But I have some questions:

 

1.  Is is OK to break up the ~45 min a day into 2 sessions:  about 20 min in the early AM for seated mediations and ~30-40 min of standing meditations before bed?

 

2. it seems there aren't visualizations to go with any of the individual meditations or exercises- but is the ideal thing to have an empty mind or will healing happen if your mind wanders?

 

3.  I stopped doing PanGu and started FP the next day.  The following day I got a bad sore throat and came down with my first cold in probably a year.  Has anyone experienced this when moving from one for to FP or just when starting FP?

 

4.  Does the system work better when doing all the different exercises and meditations together or just as good if one picks a couple of each and does them for longer duration?

 

thank you and blessings to all!

 

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1 hour ago, VinC said:

1.  Is is OK to break up the ~45 min a day into 2 sessions:  about 20 min in the early AM for seated mediations and ~30-40 min of standing meditations before bed?

Yes this is fine, I would maybe do the standing in the morning and seated at night though

 

1 hour ago, VinC said:

 

2. it seems there aren't visualizations to go with any of the individual meditations or exercises- but is the ideal thing to have an empty mind or will healing happen if your mind wanders?

 

Healing will happen regardless of where your mind is

 

1 hour ago, VinC said:

 

3.  I stopped doing PanGu and started FP the next day.  The following day I got a bad sore throat and came down with my first cold in probably a year.  Has anyone experienced this when moving from one for to FP or just when starting FP?

 

Haven’t heard of this before

 

1 hour ago, VinC said:

 

4.  Does the system work better when doing all the different exercises and meditations together or just as good if one picks a couple of each and does them for longer duration?

 

 

Longer duration and slow movement of each practice is better, you can cycle them throughout the week and do different ones each day

 

1 hour ago, VinC said:

thank you and blessings to all!

 

Hope you enjoy it!

[VinC]

Thank you!  If anyone has experience getting sick when switching qigong forms - or any thoughts on why I would get sick (maybe energies moving junk around).

 

Also- do most people feel energy while doing the meditations and movements?  Or is it more subtle than that?   I felt a lot of energy with Pangu and some with SFQ. 

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17 hours ago, VinC said:

Thank you!  If anyone has experience getting sick when switching qigong forms - or any thoughts on why I would get sick (maybe energies moving junk around).

 

Maybe it’s clearing out something that the other systems missed? Who knows, as long as you get better after 

 

17 hours ago, VinC said:

Also- do most people feel energy while doing the meditations and movements?  Or is it more subtle than that?   I felt a lot of energy with Pangu and some with SFQ. 

Yes, but it changes quite a lot. I find at the start it’s quite easy to feel energy, and it will keep on increasing until it becomes very intense, then it seems like your body and mind adjusts to it and you don’t notice it as much anymore. But it slowly increases again until it becomes intense again, then your body adjusts to it and then you don’t notice it again. Curious to hear other people’s experiences.
 

 

[Miffymog]

18 hours ago, VinC said:

Thank you!  If anyone has experience getting sick when switching qigong forms - or any thoughts on why I would get sick (maybe energies moving junk around).

 

I don't think you need to worry too much about the flu. I get one whenever I start relaxing on a holiday. I think this is because it remains slightly suppressed while I'm more tense while working, and then the virus then takes the opportunity to spread round my body when I relax.

 

For me, FPCK definitely has a relaxing nature, so it could be that your body just relaxed a bit after commencing your new practice, and the dormant virus took its chance to come out. If this is the case, then it's definitely been a good thing to go through.

 

18 hours ago, VinC said:

Also- do most people feel energy while doing the meditations and movements?  Or is it more subtle than that?   I felt a lot of energy with Pangu and some with SFQ. 

 

The energy you feel in FPCK is slightly unique because because of the way it is ignited by the percentage breath pattern at the beginning. You can get a sense of it by doing the meditations either with or without the breath pattern and feeling the difference. This is particularly noticeable when performing Monk Holds Pearl, as without the breath percentage, it is just a normal seated meditation.

 

When you perform normal qi gong, the hands move the energy in the body. But with FPCK, the breathing pattern ignites the qi uniformly throughout the whole body right at the start. The hand movements then aid it to move in a particular manner. This does mean that I have felt slightly stronger flows of energy through a particular part of my body doing other types of practice.

 

However, everything that @-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- (god that was a nightmare trying  '@' ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ, as his name technically starts with a hyphen!) says about the level of energy you feel increasing and then reducing as you acclimatise to it is something I have felt too.

 

You never move against an imaginary force, such as pretending you're performing the movement in water or oli, so you don't generate the level of energy flows you feel in an internal martial art. But this partly because FPCK is a healing and balancing practice, rather than a martial one.

 

However, every-now-and-then, you can sometimes experience very strong energy flows, accompanied with very high levels of body mind integration.

[VinC]

thank you both!  I will be hopeful that the cold/virus is just loosening up some stuck energies.  Oddly for the first week of FP I didn't feel any energy- quite different than PanGu.  But last night I felt some, but only in the hands. I will take it!  
 

I greatly appreciate your guidance and patience with answering my questions!

 

be well everyone!

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5 hours ago, VinC said:

thank you both!  I will be hopeful that the cold/virus is just loosening up some stuck energies.  Oddly for the first week of FP I didn't feel any energy- quite different than PanGu.  But last night I felt some, but only in the hands. I will take it!  
 

I greatly appreciate your guidance and patience with answering my questions!

 

be well everyone!

check out this post, it may help you with feeling energy:

 

 

[VinC]

Hi. As I am still new to this form I'm hoping someone can answer some. Kee questions for me:

 

1.  The DVDs say to sit in half lotus, with left foot lower than right foot.  Can foot positions be switched and can full lotus be done instead?

 

2.  Why are the seated meditations better for before bed than the standing ones?

 

I will stop with those for right now. Thanks! I'm loving FP!

[Miffymog]

4 hours ago, VinC said:

1.  The DVDs say to sit in half lotus, with left foot lower than right foot.  Can foot positions be switched and can full lotus be done instead?

 

From my own experience, it doesn't really matter which foot is on top, as long as the legs are relaxed. As for full lotus, absolutely you can use that, but just be careful about over extending the joints. 

 

4 hours ago, VinC said:

2.  Why are the seated meditations better for before bed than the standing ones?

 

It's quite possible to do the standing ones before going to bed, and I've done that myself a few times. It's just that the standing ones tend to require more energy to perform than the seated ones, and you normally have more energy first thing in the morning than last thing at night.

 

And the standing ones tend to generate more energy, which is good at the start of the day. Where as the seated ones are normally more relaxing, which is more appropriate before going to sleep.

 

But feel free to try different things out and see what works for you

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6 hours ago, VinC said:

1.  The DVDs say to sit in half lotus, with left foot lower than right foot.  Can foot positions be switched and can full lotus be done instead?
 

 

2 hours ago, Miffymog said:

From my own experience, it doesn't really matter which foot is on top, as long as the legs are relaxed. As for full lotus, absolutely you can use that, but just be careful about over extending the joints. 

 

Foot position can be switched, I always alternate foot positions after each exercise. 
 

Please don’t do full lotus over half lotus, it will change where the energy  is focused. The purpose of doing half lotus is to direct energy to the middle of your body, whereas with full lotus it directs energy to the top of your body.

 

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2.  Why are the seated meditations better for before bed than the standing ones?

 

I will stop with those for right now. Thanks! I'm loving FP!

 

@Miffymog is spot on with his answer for this one!

Edited 19 hours ago by -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-

[VinC]

Thank you both!!!

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2 hours ago, VinC said:

Thank you both!!!

You are welcome, glad you enjoy it! Ask any other questions you have, we are happy to help

[VinC]

Hi everyone. I have another question. I've gotten to Seated Meditations 4,5 and 6 on Volume 2 DVD.  Do you do the movements and then the breathing?  Or is it just showing and getting you used to the movements and in daily practice you are supposed to start with the percentage breathing and then the movements?  I got a bit confused. Thanks!

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4 hours ago, VinC said:

Hi everyone. I have another question. I've gotten to Seated Meditations 4,5 and 6 on Volume 2 DVD.  Do you do the movements and then the breathing?  Or is it just showing and getting you used to the movements and in daily practice you are supposed to start with the percentage breathing and then the movements?  I got a bit confused. Thanks!

Always do the breathing first