Flying Phoenix Chi Kung

[jeffrito]

You're welcome. Growant.

And I look forward to those beers down the road. You are obviously a man of taste if Bass Ale was the first beer you ever tried! Unlike you, it took me a long, long time to discover that brew (--not that I was ever a big beer-drinker...(I'm not)).

Best,

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

Hi Terry,

 

May I ask, what are your thoughts on alcohol consumption? Does it interfere with chi cultivation?

 

I drink moderately. Being British it can be hard not to when socialising.

 

Do you think alcohol is ok in moderation or is it best to try to give it up all together.

 

Other please feel free to comment too.

 

J

[zen-bear]

Crazy world we live in !

 

Referring to the long post, from Sifu Terry, above.......

 

We have a frankly amazing system of Chi Kung, in Flying Phoenix. I've been practicing various high level systems for almost twenty years, and this is the best. I have been a professional healer for 18 years, and healed over 20000 people. I know a good healing system when I see one.

 

Nobody is forced to practice it. We all have free will.

 

Amazingly, There are still those who want to bash and criticise. Once, I used to feel angry, and want to tell the 'truth' to anyone who would listen. Ego, even about things I really cared about, such as animal rights, veganism etc. Now I just smile and walk away. Each to their own, live and let live. We all get there in the end.

 

The most incredible thing of all, though, is we have direct access to Master Terry Dunn here, who takes the time to answer questions and engage with anyone who makes demands on his time. Knowing how busy I am, I think thats pretty impressive. Most masters don't go that far.

 

And he still has to write long replies, as above, justifying things to people,when he could be doing more important things.

 

I don't want this to sound to sycophantic. Its not meant to be sound that way. Its just annoying that people show so little respect. I always say that respect is earnt, and I while I treat everyone with compassion, I don't necessarily have to respect them. I think Sifu Terry has earnt respect on this board, for his patience and willingness to help everyone.

 

Anyway......thats it !

 

 

Dear Jeremiah Z.,

Thank you very much for the positive review of the Flying PHoenix Celestial Healing Chi Meditations...it means a lot coming from someone such has you who has practiced 20+ years of Qigong, knows what's out there, and is a dedicated holistic health professional. Yes, we are indeed all fortunate that Grandmaster Doo Wai's family acquired this remarkable art, preserved it so impeccably across six generations, and then passed it on to me and a few others in its original form such that practitioners can learn and retain this practice from the DVD media and enjoy its benefits without having a master instructor directly supervising them. There aren't too many systems that I know of that are so complete and self-contained.

 

As for irrational critics and "bashers" as you call them, this is a public virtual forum, and there is the entire range of humanity reading the more popular threads on Sean Omlor's terrific site here. And within Chinese martial and yogic arts subculture, there are all kinds of folks. Some very dedicated practitioners with good values, common sense, good training under their belt, good teachers ongoing, and the right amount of respect for the traditions of Chinese physical culture, who are sincere and earnest about learning the complete truth of one or more Chinese yogic systems--and understand what is required in terms of dedication, practice, sacrifice ("ren"), and stewardship of the esoteric knowledge that is ultimately given to deserving and "proven" disciples. And then there always those looking for a quick fix or a quick buck, who have little discipline, no mental stabilization,who were never taught--or if they were taught, don't care one iota about--the traditions that preserve and transmit the complete truth of the various Chinese martial, yogic and healing arts across millenia, and who thus exhibit the characteristics of Gasan's "poor and mediocre disciples". Discernment of the types and worth of students is easy,and some of those detractors and obstructors of info-exchange on this thread have clearly revealed their true natures according to these standards, which I post again here for inspirational purpose:

A. The poor student utilizes (exploits) his teacher's influence.

B. The mediocre student admires his teacher's kindness.

C. The superior student grows strong under his teacher's guidance.

 

Thanks again very much for your kind words about my contributing to this thread, but moreover, thank you for weighing in on the effectiveness and what I'll call "high pedigree" of the Flying Phoenix Qigong system.

 

Best,

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

[zen-bear]

Hi Terry,

 

May I ask, what are your thoughts on alcohol consumption? Does it interfere with chi cultivation?

 

I drink moderately. Being British it can be hard not to when socialising.

 

Do you think alcohol is ok in moderation or is it best to try to give it up all together.

 

Other please feel free to comment too.

 

J

 

 

Hello Jeffrito,

 

There's no problem with alcohol consumption in moderation interfering with health and Qi cultivation. The key word that you used is, of course, moderation. It also depends on one's constitution and and blood chemistry. Some races have high levels of alcohol dehydrogenase; other's like Amerindian and some Asian cultures have much lower levels genetically, and thus don't metabolize alcohol as well.

I can't really give you advice as to how much I think you should drink or that you should give up alcohol. I don't think that drinking in moderation, especially in Britain (one of my favorite countries, btw--I love London and the countryside) would adversely affect your cultivation using the Flying Phoenix Qigong.

I myself am not a big drinker. I like good wines with dinner, and will have an occasional cocktail or a beer, but I don't have a habit of drinking beer.

I am very sensitive,however, to the oxidizing effects of alcohol. If you didn't take organic chemistry in college, most people translate "oxidizing" as "aging". In my younger years, whenever I felt that I was drying up and my tissues were getting dry and "craggly", I would reduce sugars and of course alcohol, because there is plenty of sugar in alcohol.

While drinking in moderation wouldn't hurt your FP Qigong cultivation, so long as your overall life-style is balanced in terms of work, sleep, and nutrition, if you wanted to maximize the "yield" or productivity of your FP Qigong training, curtailing alcohol consumption is an option. Remember that the FP Qigong comes from the monastic tradition at Ehrmeishan. If you want to replicate a more pure lifestyle as per that monastic tradition, cutting back on alcohol is an option.

In conclusion, my answer is: it's totally up to you!

Hope this helps.

 

Terry Dunn

Edited June 4, 2012 by zen-bear

[Warrior Body Buddha Mind]

Unless you follow the Daoist Drunken Immortal?

[DanC]

Hi Sifu Terry,

Just a quick question not sure if it has been asked before, is it OK to start out and work with the seated forms initially, I have both volume one and two but dues to my time constraints and low energy levels (CFS), which Im being tread for by a TCM doctor with acupuncture and herbs, Im thinking the seated forms might be really helpful..

 

Dan

[jeffrito]

Hello Jeffrito,

 

There's no problem with alcohol consumption in moderation interfering with health and Qi cultivation. The key word that you used is, of course, moderation. It also depends on one's constitution and and blood chemistry. Some races have high levels of alcohol dehydrogenase; other's like Amerindian and some Asian cultures have much lower levels genetically, and thus don't metabolize alcohol as well.

I can't really give you advice as to how much I think you should drink or that you should give up alcohol. I don't think that drinking in moderation, especially in Britain (one of my favorite countries, btw--I love London and the countryside) would adversely affect your cultivation using the Flying Phoenix Qigong.

I myself am not a big drinker. I like good wines with dinner, and will have an occasional cocktail or a beer, but I don't have a habit of drinking beer.

I am very sensitive,however, to the oxidizing effects of alcohol. If you didn't take organic chemistry in college, most people translate "oxidizing" as "aging". In my younger years, whenever I felt that I was drying up and my tissues were getting dry and "craggly", I would reduce sugars and of course alcohol, because there is plenty of sugar in alcohol.

While drinking in moderation wouldn't hurt your FP Qigong cultivation, so long as your overall life-style is balanced in terms of work, sleep, and nutrition, if you wanted to maximize the "yield" or productivity of your FP Qigong training, curtailing alcohol consumption is an option. Remember that the FP Qigong comes from the monastic tradition at Ehrmeishan. If you want to replicate a more pure lifestyle as per that monastic tradition, cutting back on alcohol is an option.

In conclusion, my answer is: it's totally up to you!

Hope this helps.

 

Terry Dunn

 

Hi Terry,

 

Thanks ever so much for your reply.

 

It's nice to have a balanced and considered opinion on alcohol. It's good to know that even teachers and life long practitioners can enjoy a drink sometimes.

 

Look me up if you're ever coming to the UK, it would be great to set up a weekend session out in the Kent countryside.

 

Jeffrito

[zen-bear]

Hi Sifu Terry,

Just a quick question not sure if it has been asked before, is it OK to start out and work with the seated forms initially, I have both volume one and two but dues to my time constraints and low energy levels (CFS), which Im being tread for by a TCM doctor with acupuncture and herbs, Im thinking the seated forms might be really helpful..

 

Dan

 

Hello Dan,

 

Yes, it is perfectly alright to start with the Basic Seated Flying Phoenix Meditations. They are all very pleasant to do and energize the body in a deeply tangible and profound way. Almost everyone who works a job has time constraints for Qigong practice. Fortunately, FP Qigong is a system where even a little bit of practice--as less as 15 minutes a day, done everyday--will after a certain time feel like the internal energy is cultivating/accumulating at a geometric rate.

 

I just had the pleasure of meeting Fu_Dog (who started this discussion thread back in late 2009) in person here in L.A. giving him two days of private lessons. He is a very busy consultant who sometimes works 13 hours per day, and he squeezes in FP Qigong practice whenever he can. And he favors the seated FP "Monk Serves Wine" meditations, which is fine. However, to derive the full benefit of the FP Qigong system, one must at some point become thoroughly adept with the Standing FP exercises as well because they are more powerful than the seated FP Meditations, as I had mentioned very early on in this thread.

 

Again, daily FP Qigong practice for short periods of time can up to a very beneficial cultivation.

 

Hope this helps. Enjoy the seated work.

 

Sifu Terry

[Fu_dog]

Hi All -

 

I just returned to Florida after spending several days in the Los Angeles area. While visiting SoCal, I had the great pleasure of meeting Sifu Terry (along with his trusty side kick English Beagle, Obi). As he mentions above, I had two private lessons from Sifu on consecutive days. What an enjoyable experience!

 

Sifu Terry is extremely knowledgable across a broad range of styles including kung fu, tai chi and qigong along with a plethora of other energetic arts. That said, what really stood out to me is the tremendous enthusiasm Sifu Terry has for the arts. His deep love of the martial/energy arts comes through in everything he does. I felt this in every discussion, every teaching moment, every minute of my time I spent with him. Also, Sifu is a humble person....very rare for someone of his knowledge and stature.

 

Sifu made the private lessons not only really valuable to my practice, but it was also a lot of fun! Sifu Terry helped me make seemingly small corrections to a number of my FP forms that made very significant differences in the energetic effects of the movements. He taught me some additional Flying Phoenix qigong not (yet) on DVD that I absolutely love. And I he taught me lots more that I won't mention here that really adds to the benefits I will get from my practice. And after the two days, I felt I was only scratching the surface.

 

I was also fortunate to have a couple lunches with Sifu after each of the private lessons, which was quite enjoyable. We discussed how this forum put him in touch with Sifu Garry, who also learned from GMDW (and who is always a really strong contributor to this thread). Also we discussed a wide range of other topics from the arts to life in general. It was really quality time. Ah, too bad vacations have to end. ;-)

 

Net-net, Sifu Terry is a real treasure within the martial/energy arts community. I can tell everyone on this thread from first hand experience that we are very fortunate that he continues to spend the time contributing to this forum. He always takes time to answer questions and provide meaningful clarifications on different aspects of the Flying Phoenix system....to all of our benefit.

 

So, if you are practicing FP, then I can tell you to keep on keepin' on! The benefits will get better and better with time, I can promise. And if you are not practicing FP, but are looking for a substantial qigong, then I can strongly recommend Flying Phoenix.

 

OK, enough for one post....Good practicing!

 

Fu_dog

[ridingtheox]

I second Fu dog's comments: Daily practice over long periods yields positive energy returns. I try to do two sessions a day early (5 am) and afternoon (3 pm). As a septuagenarian, I was losing some balance and had BP issues. FPCH definitely improved both issues. It is increasingly clear that joints and tendons are 'softening' with practice. The breath work now causes subtle pops and releases in my spine. My sense of rooting has improved. Some of the weight shifting left or right shows up as pressure in the opposite heel, that is a better balance, deeper root.

 

If you begin the FPCH, results will accumulate in your physical well being.

 

The balance and psychological benefits are more difficult to explain. Dualism slips away. Peace grows.

Edited June 9, 2012 by ridingtheox

[zen-bear]

I second Fu dog's comments: Daily practice over long periods yields positive energy returns. I try to do two sessions a day early (5 am) and afternoon (3 pm). As a septuagenarian, I was losing some balance and had BP issues. FPCH definitely improved both issues. It is increasingly clear that joints and tendons are 'softening' with practice. The breath work now causes subtle pops and releases in my spine. My sense of rooting has improved. Some of the weight shifting left or right shows up as pressure in the opposite heel, that is a better balance, deeper root.

 

If you begin the FPCH, results will accumulate in your physical well being.

 

The balance and psychological benefits are more difficult to explain. Dualism slips away. Peace grows.

 

 

 

Hi Charlie Ridingtheox,

 

Thanks for the report on your presently felt ongoing long-term benefits from Flying Phoenix Qigong practice--in congruence with Fu_Dog's very detailed and generous posting. Because of your substantial and excellent Tai Chi background, all your posted descriptions of FP Qigong's benefits are terse and authoritative. I tend to be too wordy. You get the truth of the FP matter across mostly simply with fewest words. Thank you again.

 

And see you tomorrow morning in Santa Monica. I'm glad you're in-state again to work-out.

 

Warm Regards,

 

Sifu Terry

[zen-bear]

Hi All -

 

I just returned to Florida after spending several days in the Los Angeles area. While visiting SoCal, I had the great pleasure of meeting Sifu Terry (along with his trusty side kick English Beagle, Obi). As he mentions above, I had two private lessons from Sifu on consecutive days. What an enjoyable experience!

 

Sifu Terry is extremely knowledgable across a broad range of styles including kung fu, tai chi and qigong along with a plethora of other energetic arts. That said, what really stood out to me is the tremendous enthusiasm Sifu Terry has for the arts. His deep love of the martial/energy arts comes through in everything he does. I felt this in every discussion, every teaching moment, every minute of my time I spent with him. Also, Sifu is a humble person....very rare for someone of his knowledge and stature.

 

Sifu made the private lessons not only really valuable to my practice, but it was also a lot of fun! Sifu Terry helped me make seemingly small corrections to a number of my FP forms that made very significant differences in the energetic effects of the movements. He taught me some additional Flying Phoenix qigong not (yet) on DVD that I absolutely love. And I he taught me lots more that I won't mention here that really adds to the benefits I will get from my practice. And after the two days, I felt I was only scratching the surface.

 

I was also fortunate to have a couple lunches with Sifu after each of the private lessons, which was quite enjoyable. We discussed how this forum put him in touch with Sifu Garry, who also learned from GMDW (and who is always a really strong contributor to this thread). Also we discussed a wide range of other topics from the arts to life in general. It was really quality time. Ah, too bad vacations have to end. ;-)

 

Net-net, Sifu Terry is a real treasure within the martial/energy arts community. I can tell everyone on this thread from first hand experience that we are very fortunate that he continues to spend the time contributing to this forum. He always takes time to answer questions and provide meaningful clarifications on different aspects of the Flying Phoenix system....to all of our benefit.

 

So, if you are practicing FP, then I can tell you to keep on keepin' on! The benefits will get better and better with time, I can promise. And if you are not practicing FP, but are looking for a substantial qigong, then I can strongly recommend Flying Phoenix.

 

OK, enough for one post....Good practicing!

 

Fu_dog

 

Hi Fu_Dog,

 

Thank you for the over-flowingly generous praise for my way of teaching the arts, Flying Phoenix Qigong in particular. (In Chinese, the embarrassed response to such excessive, flattering lauding is: "guo-jiang, guo-jiang" = literally,"beyond-the-norm/excessive talk". But thank you again for your kind and glowing testimonial.

 

It was indeed a pleasure to teach you in consecutive days and to cover a lot of material, including my "standard" warm-up sequence that I teach in all my classes. And I'm glad you were able to learn within one session the 23-movement, Long Seated FP Meditation (not on DVD series).

 

Following-up your by-the-DVD practice with in-person corrections is the least I can do to thank you for starting this discussion thread back on 2009 that has led to introduction FP Qigong to so many people, enabled so much information exchange, the proliferation of FP Qigong practice worldwide, and has led to most joyous and productive associations, such as my connection with my school brother, Sifu Garry Hearfield in Australia.

 

As I told you last week in person, you are about half-way there in becoming ready to qualify as an instructor in Basic FP Qigong. Continuing with the same level of practice coupled with occasional private corrections will get you there. The test, of course, entails not only performing the FP Chi Kung Meditations correctly, but also entails demonstrating effective healing of others with the FP Energy.

 

Keep up the Great Work.

 

Sincerely,

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

Edited June 9, 2012 by zen-bear

[growant]

Sifu Terry,

 

Hopefully this hasn't been asked before- how long should one wait (if at all) between western exercise (weights, cardio, swimming, external kung fu, etc...) and practicing Flying Phoenix (or vice versa)- and is it best to do one before the other? thanks-

[growant]

Additionally, that 23 move long form seated you mentioned you taught Fu Dog sounds interesting- does that subsume all the other seated/MSW meds the way the standing long form does with the other standing meds? Are you thinking of releasing that on dvd anytime soon?

[zen-bear]

Additionally, that 23 move long form seated you mentioned you taught Fu Dog sounds interesting- does that subsume all the other seated/MSW meds the way the standing long form does with the other standing meds? Are you thinking of releasing that on dvd anytime soon?

 

 

 

Hi Growant,

 

No, the 23-movement Seated Flying Phoenix Meditation does not subsume or replace practice of any of the FP Seated meditations,except perhaps for the first 3 "warm-up" meditation exercises on Vol. 2. It's considered another FP Seated Meditation to be done alongside all the other seated ones. If you've tried the Seated Monk Serves Wine Meditations, especially the ones in Vol.7, you'll come to know that each one has a very distinctive cultivational "path" through the mind-body. Once you do these Monk Serves Wine meditations long enough to get a "feel" for them, and then when you learn the 23-movement seated Med., you will instantly know for yourself that the latter cannot supplant the practice of the other Monk Serves Wine Meditations.

 

And yes, I do plan to make a DVD program teaching the 23-movement seated FP Meditation. It's a very nice one.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

[tao mist]

Hi Growant,

 

No, the 23-movement Seated Flying Phoenix Meditation does not subsume or replace practice of any of the FP Seated meditations,except perhaps for the first 3 "warm-up" meditation exercises on Vol. 2. It's considered another FP Seated Meditation to be done alongside all the other seated ones. If you've tried the Seated Monk Serves Wine Meditations, especially the ones in Vol.7, you'll come to know that each one has a very distinctive cultivational "path" through the mind-body. Once you do these Monk Serves Wine meditations long enough to get a "feel" for them, and then when you learn the 23-movement seated Med., you will instantly know for yourself that the latter cannot supplant the practice of the other Monk Serves Wine Meditations.

 

And yes, I do plan to make a DVD program teaching the 23-movement seated FP Meditation. It's a very nice one.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

Hi Sifu Terry,

The avatar heading the Oneness movement out of India which uses deeksha energy to get the kundalini to rise to the frontal lobe for states of higher consciousness just released a statement that due to the increasing powerful energy now available, people in the Oneness movement when in a state of Divine Presence which can be felt as bliss, etc. can think of the name of any person and that person will then automatically receive that Divine Presence energy. He said that energy is now being increased weekly. I cannot vouch for this directly as I am a Oneness Energy Giver even though I myself have not felt even one iota of energy or any experience from this method during the 5 years I have been trying it. But my closest friends all experience energy and higher states from it. The claims for the transfer of energy remind me that you have stated that eventually someone doing Flying Phoenix Chi Kung can have their energy spontaneously jump to someone in need of healing. Sounds like happy days are here at last, to borrow a phrase. And like others who have read this thread I continue to be amazed and grateful for all of the knowledge and guidance that you so freely share. You would have to be a man of great heart to do this, especially in such a materialistic age that we live in. The low prices of your quality dvds also reflect this same generous spirit. I am greatly honored and feel blessed to have crossed your path.

Steve

[Fu_dog]

Steve - just a quick confirmation of your comments about Sifu Terry. As I was fortunate to meet Sifu Terry for the first time in person a few weeks ago I can tell you from my own experience that he is indeed a man of great heart, and has a genuine love and mastery of the martial/energy arts. He is not at all about materialism. He lives rather modestly and simply wants to share his vast store of knowledge with those interested in learning.

 

And I can also say to the board the 23 movement Flying Phoenix meditation is really so fine (and different).....immediately became a favorite of mine that I practice every day. When it eventually makes it to DVD you are in for a treat.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited for grammar.

Edited June 16, 2012 by Fu_dog

[zen-bear]

Sifu Terry,

 

Hopefully this hasn't been asked before- how long should one wait (if at all) between western exercise (weights, cardio, swimming, external kung fu, etc...) and practicing Flying Phoenix (or vice versa)- and is it best to do one before the other? thanks-

 

 

 

Hi Growant,

The answer is "it all depends on each individual's cardio-vascular fitness and how fast one can recover from oxygen deficit (oxygen depletion in the cells due to strenuous exercise)." And it depends how much aerobic exercise one has done as well. If you've run steep trails for 3 hours straight, you might want to rest 20-30 minutes before practicing FP Qigong. Ideally, one should not be in O2 deficit when one practices a Qigong like Flying Phoenix. It's best to be fully recovered from strenuous exercise. For some, that means 5 rest is needed; for others less fit, 15 minutes. As described many times on this thread, the FP Qigong cultivates a fine, sublime, light (blue) healing energy. And to derive optimal benefits and get the most from FP Qigong training, one should be in a calm state of mind with the body relaxed and comfortable. One should not be panting and out of breath when one starts an FP Meditation.

 

Because I have a busy schedule day to day and do lots of aerobic sports (running, cycling, trekking, ocean sports) in addition to all the Tai Chi, Qigong and gongfu I practice, I will occasionally recover from O2deficit from doing those sports by practicing certain Bok Fu Pai Meditations--but not Flying Phoenix.

 

This may not be a very precise answer, but it's the best i can do!

 

Best,

 

Sifu Terry

Edited June 16, 2012 by zen-bear

[tao mist]

Hi Sifu Terry, I have been practicing your FP Chi Kung for Health series for 4 years now. I wanted to let the board know that I still shake. I do not see shaking as a sign of poor health as claimed by Silium in an earlier

post. My health is fine, which I attribute to FP and Taiji. Sincerely -Marcus

 

This comment is to Sifu Garry Hearfield. In rereading some of the previous posts I realized I did not reply yet to your request that I let you know about the chi kung styles I have done in the past. Well here it is: Spring Forest chi kung from Chu Li Yin. This was my first style that I learned because at the inpatient mental health center that I work in we do a daily chi kung group for the patients so we wanted some training in this. I still do it during work days because I do the group so I have to do it and these severely mentally ill people are incapable of doing Flying Phoenix for multiple reasons. I also used to do Master Wong Kit Kiew's Shaolin chi kung taught online now by one of his students in England. We use some of his movements in our group at work each day. I did another method from online but cannot recall the name of it now. I did Qinway style. Jenny Lamb's Yi Gong which is a form of neigong. Dragon Gate which I really enjoyed because of its absolute simplicity. Holden's style which was on PBS as a series. Did it just a few times as it seemed to much like calesthetics. Briefly did Dr. Yang's style. Falun Dafa or Falun Gong as it is also known is one I did for awhile. This is the one where they put you in prison if you do it in China. It healed a slight heart murmur in just one month but it is very time consuming and you have to hold these static postures until you cannot tolerate it any longer. One day I asked myself why I was subjecting myself to such torture and then I stopped this method. I liked most of the styles that I tried but none really grabbed me like Flying Phoenix does and resulted in a real passion for it which I cannot explain why. I regret that I am getting such a late start with chi kung but if I had tried it earlier I would have had to quit it due to being programmed that as a Transcendental Meditator, no other self-development method would ever be necessary because nothing else could give the benefits that are obtained from doing TM. I actually did rent a chi kung dvd around 1990 or so and tried it briefly and compared it to TM and did not know what to expect so I stopped it. It involved sitting in a chair and moving the upper torso by circling the head is what I recall about that.

Steve

[kalidastony]

Hello Dan,

 

Yes, it is perfectly alright to start with the Basic Seated Flying Phoenix Meditations. They are all very pleasant to do and energize the body in a deeply tangible and profound way. Almost everyone who works a job has time constraints for Qigong practice. Fortunately, FP Qigong is a system where even a little bit of practice--as less as 15 minutes a day, done everyday--will after a certain time feel like the internal energy is cultivating/accumulating at a geometric rate.

 

I just had the pleasure of meeting Fu_Dog (who started this discussion thread back in late 2009) in person here in L.A. giving him two days of private lessons. He is a very busy consultant who sometimes works 13 hours per day, and he squeezes in FP Qigong practice whenever he can. And he favors the seated FP "Monk Serves Wine" meditations, which is fine. However, to derive the full benefit of the FP Qigong system, one must at some point become thoroughly adept with the Standing FP exercises as well because they are more powerful than the seated FP Meditations, as I had mentioned very early on in this thread.

 

Again, daily FP Qigong practice for short periods of time can up to a very beneficial cultivation.

 

Hope this helps. Enjoy the seated work.

 

Sifu Terry

[kalidastony]

I may be just lazy or can't go through 80 odd pages of posts on here. But am feeling good about Sifu Terry's reply about doing at least 15 minutes of the basics of FP for starters. So being and old guy (coming up to 69), I have some observations about trying different styles and how the truism of "your body knows what's right for it" is true. I have been cycling through 3 Qigong sources over the last 2 years or so. Starting one, stopping, then another. Like Damo Qigong (all seated forms), Guigen Qigong, and finally Terry's FPCK. Guess what Terry's does the trick. Here is a list of phyiscal things I have had/ still have wrong with me. Mostly age related I guess.

(1) Still shoulders and sort base of neck, from an injury years ago. (2) Lack of sleep due to stress. (3) Crummy or stressed out feeling after doing forms, even 'panic' attacks. No longer and now a FPCK devotee !! All anectdotal stuff is gone. It works and I can do my 40 hour a week stressful job and remain as cool as a cucumber. Knees shake, arms ache but nothing ventured nothing gained.

 

Thanks Terry.

[Fu_dog]

Kalidastony - nice post regarding your results from Flying Phoenix!

 

Glad to hear FP has improved your health and reduced your stress levels. Many of us have had similar experience. The healing aspects of FP are really outstanding. BTW - being an old guy is a good thing (especially considering the alternative). ;-)

 

This is a long running thread no doubt, but I might suggest you go through it at your leisure because there is some gold to be found hidden in these 80 pages.

 

I'm curious....which of the FP meditations are you doing?

 

Good practicing!

 

Fu dog

[zen-bear]

Hi Sifu Terry,

The avatar heading the Oneness movement out of India which uses deeksha energy to get the kundalini to rise to the frontal lobe for states of higher consciousness just released a statement that due to the increasing powerful energy now available, people in the Oneness movement when in a state of Divine Presence which can be felt as bliss, etc. can think of the name of any person and that person will then automatically receive that Divine Presence energy. He said that energy is now being increased weekly. I cannot vouch for this directly as I am a Oneness Energy Giver even though I myself have not felt even one iota of energy or any experience from this method during the 5 years I have been trying it. But my closest friends all experience energy and higher states from it. The claims for the transfer of energy remind me that you have stated that eventually someone doing Flying Phoenix Chi Kung can have their energy spontaneously jump to someone in need of healing. Sounds like happy days are here at last, to borrow a phrase. And like others who have read this thread I continue to be amazed and grateful for all of the knowledge and guidance that you so freely share. You would have to be a man of great heart to do this, especially in such a materialistic age that we live in. The low prices of your quality dvds also reflect this same generous spirit. I am greatly honored and feel blessed to have crossed your path.

Steve

 

 

Hi Steve,

 

Thanks for forwarding the info regarding Sri Bhagavan's Oneness Meditation and how he's proliferating its practice via webcasts.

 

The quality of one's meditation, mind-body integration, level of elevated consciousness, and spiritual attainment (purification) varies from person to the next. Although Sri Bhagavan may be an avatar in the Indian tradition and a transcendent yogin who has attained God-Consciousness and Divine At-Onement, no one--but no one-- can possibly guarantee that every follower around the world watching his webcasts will experience Divine At-One-ment. An avatar of tremendous compassion, yogic power, and divine annointing might be able to enlighten, heal and transfer God-consciousness to persons immediately in his presence, and some masters can transfer energy and higher consciousness remotely to another single person a great distance away, but it would indeed be very, very rare for a spiritual master to affect a worldwide mass audience through the media.

 

Besides each person's karma and capacity for or receptivity to the Divine, there are too many variables that can obstruct the "transfer" or blessing.

 

With regards to the Flying Phoenix healing energy spontaneously "jumping off" the practitioner to someone he/she has positive regard who is in need of healing, I want to clarify that that occurs only when the two people are in physical proximity. The FP Healing Energy cannot spontaneously "jump" or transfer across a great distance...except in the case of two persons deeply practiced in FP Qigong who had prior physical proximity and familiarity and then became remotely separated, and except in the case of a high-level master such as GM Doo Wai consciously directing the FP healing energy to a particular person in any location.

 

Final word related to the transfer of Higher Consciousness by avatars: high-level Tai Chi masters such as William C.C.Chen and other senior students of Cheng Man-Ching and masters from other Tai Chi lineages can imbue their students with what I call a "dynamic learning energy"--consisting of a slightly higher consciousness of the Tai Chi art combined with a temporary body memory--where the student is enabled to feel exactly what the next level of Tai Chi Form or Tui-shou technique should feel like--long enough to practice it in order to get it established. This type of energy+consciousness, when it is given, is a most profound and compassionate gift from truly great masters.

 

And thank you, Steve, for your kind complements on my Flying Phoenix DVD series and my way of teaching this art and encouraging its proliferation. As I said on the thread several times in the past, I feel very fortunate by circumstance to be able to share knowledge of FP Qigong and offer guidance because the basic level of this art as taught in my DVD series cannot be used misused by the profane to recklessly harm others the way that all the Chinese internal martial arts can. Thus the tradition of secrecy and "never tell too plainly" doesn't have to apply to my teaching of FP Qigong. And as I think I also might have said before, if someone were to figure how to use the basic Flying Phoenix Celestial Healing Chi Meditations for martial purposes, that person is of such High Consciousness, that he doesn't need its martial function anyway.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

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Edited June 19, 2012 by zen-bear

[kalidastony]

Kalidastony - nice post regarding your results from Flying Phoenix!

 

Glad to hear FP has improved your health and reduced your stress levels. Many of us have had similar experience. The healing aspects of FP are really outstanding. BTW - being an old guy is a good thing (especially considering the alternative). ;-)

 

This is a long running thread no doubt, but I might suggest you go through it at your leisure because there is some gold to be found hidden in these 80 pages.

 

I'm curious....which of the FP meditations are you doing?

 

Good practicing!

 

Fu dog

 

Thanks for the response. Sorry about a couple of typos. Well, what I did (having to play catch up) was to do Terry's intensive process which is on an insert he mails with his DVD's. That is, do one standing form (Vol 1) and one sitting form (Vol 2) for two weeks ( I do this in the morning at 5am and evening at 7pm each day). Once the first two weeks are done, then start 2 standing forms and 2 sitting forms until all the weeks have gone by where you are doing all Vol 1 and Vol 2 forms. Means getting up earlier as each set of 2 weeks gets completed as I head out to work at a specific time each day. The hardest day of the week is Saturday as its my crash and burn day and takes a lot of willpower to get out of bed and do the right thing !!. I don't expect miracles because a lifetime of bad habits takes some fixing but the results are occurring that are very noticeable. For one, stressing out (am in one of the three professions starting with airline pilots that get this), had caused me to reach for the smokes. Well, there is no longer any desire to pollute my lungs. Its not a conscious effort to stop the habit, it just happens with FPCK !. Diet is also good to change particularly if your friendly GP says your blood pressure is high and need to work on it. All these things sum up to generating a high motivation to just do the forms and not worry to much about the theory. Old East Indian saying " He who has TASTED a grain of mustard seed is better than one who has SEEN a whole elephant load of it". Considering that I live in a Southern State and can't get over to the West Coast to attend live tuition, these DVD's are real gems and worth every penny. My problem is that friends keep nicking them and not returning them so I have to order more, which is great for Terry as it's well deserved

[zen-bear]

Hi Sifu Terry, I have been practicing your FP Chi Kung for Health series for 4 years now. I wanted to let the board know that I still shake. I do not see shaking as a sign of poor health as claimed by Silium in an earlier

post. My health is fine, which I attribute to FP and Taiji. Sincerely -Marcus

 

 

 

Hi Marcus,

Thanks for your account of your experience with Flying Phoenix Qigong practice, with specific regards to physical shaking while doing the meditations. It varies from day to day, but there are certain times when I still vibrate (smoothly) while doing the basic FP Meditation exercises, including the seated Monk Serves Wine meditations. Of course shaking while in the FP Meditations is not a sign of poor health. (And as both Sifu Garry Hearfield have attested to on this thread, there other Qigong methods (sub-systems) in the Bok Fu Pai School that will cause one to gyrate and literally bounce across a room as if one were on carnival ride.) Sillum's earlier post was a quote of my teacher's observation in a one rare specific case that he took completely out of context, and then generalized as a universal phenomenon. As I wrote back then, anyone with even a basic foundation in the FP Qigong system or a foundation in any other authentic and complete Qigong system would never make such a ridiculous and erroneous statement. Thanks for chiming in with your report.

 

Best,

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

[zen-bear]

I may be just lazy or can't go through 80 odd pages of posts on here. But am feeling good about Sifu Terry's reply about doing at least 15 minutes of the basics of FP for starters. So being and old guy (coming up to 69), I have some observations about trying different styles and how the truism of "your body knows what's right for it" is true. I have been cycling through 3 Qigong sources over the last 2 years or so. Starting one, stopping, then another. Like Damo Qigong (all seated forms), Guigen Qigong, and finally Terry's FPCK. Guess what Terry's does the trick. Here is a list of phyiscal things I have had/ still have wrong with me. Mostly age related I guess.

(1) Still shoulders and sort base of neck, from an injury years ago. (2) Lack of sleep due to stress. (3) Crummy or stressed out feeling after doing forms, even 'panic' attacks. No longer and now a FPCK devotee !! All anectdotal stuff is gone. It works and I can do my 40 hour a week stressful job and remain as cool as a cucumber. Knees shake, arms ache but nothing ventured nothing gained.

 

Thanks Terry.

 

 

Hi Kalidastony,

Thank you for your short and sweet evaluation of Flying Phoenix Chi Kung and comparison with the other systems you have also practiced. There is nothing more gratifying for teachers like myself and Sifu Hearfield than to hear practitioners feel rejuvenated, get fast relief, conquer stress, heal from ailments, and otherwise derive the universally-experienced benefits of FPCK practice--for that means that the practitioner has done the work--the gong in the Qigong, and the Qi (in our case a very specific FP energy) has manifested and producing healthful, stress-eliminating results.

Good work, Kalidastony,and keep us appraised of your new FPCK experiences, and of course, post any questions that might arise along the way.

Pleasant journeying on the wings of the Phoenix.

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

Edited June 19, 2012 by zen-bear