CrunchyChocolate555 Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) And just two more questions while I'm at it ! While performing FPQG, I find it hard *not* to focus on something in my body, like maybe trying to breathe better or some part of my body that needs healing. Of course, I notice that the energy immediately flows to that area and goes to work. Is it a hindrance to focus on different parts of the body while performing the exercises? If it's better not to, what should one focus on, in terms of body awareness? Also, I have found that the FP energy really kicks into full gear when I go to bed and start to fall asleep at night. I can feel it moving into problematic areas and releasing blockages. Is this common? Lastly, is it acceptable to switch legs (left over right) for the seated meditations? Edited April 22, 2013 by CrunchyChocolate555 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tao stillness Posted April 20, 2013 Hi CC, Of course I cannot answer for Sifu Terry but as far as the chi releasing blockages I would say that is the essence of what Traditional Chinese Medicine is all about! That is what it is designed to do since TCM believes all illness is due to an imbalance in energies so it moves stuck energy and that restores health. That is just one example of what the chi does. But what I am impressed about is that you are so fortunate to be able to directly experience the chi at work. After 6 yrs of chi kung I still can only feel chi in my hands when I do the movements and nothing afterward when the session is done. Speaking of which, I have just learned the first FP med on vol. 5 and I would really enjoy hearing the experiences of all you guys out there who have done vol. 5 meds. What have you experienced from these "amazingly simple" meds? What can I expect to experience from them? CC you get to directly experience chi kung working for you whereas I have to consult my medical clairvoyant who just by thinking the name of the meditation or the breathing sequence numbers can literally see in his consciousness what each meditation is doing for me. I will share what he has said about these powerful meds after the rest of you guys familiar with vol. 5 share what you have eperienced then we will compare notes. Steve 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrunchyChocolate555 Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) I would say, DON'T GIVE UP and keep up the good work! Why? Because I didn't feel diddly for the first few years of doing qigong. Ziltch. Nada. Not even some tingling.. It's only in the past year after resuming qigong (I took a break for a few months) that suddenly, out of the blue, I started getting a very strong and tangible feeling of qi. Also, it may just be that for now, the qi is not taking on the form of being a physical sensation, it may perhaps be perceived by you through other means if you pay close attention. However, if I can speak from my experience with FPQG, the qi is incredibly strong and tangible, even despite the difficulties I am having with keeping good posture. If anyone is familiar with trigger points (tight bands of muscle fibers aka, knots), I have gained the ability through practice to consistently able to direct the qi I get from FPQG into these knots and feel the muscle start twitching, and the knot releasing after a few minutes of the energy "massaging" it out. I can attest to the fact that it is not placebo as the "knot" is then greatly diminished afterwards, and gone after a few sessions. It can even be measured as I have been able to relax my tight shoulders and let them naturally expand outwards a few centimeters (they used to be so tight and pulled in that this was not physically possible). I believe this is how in part, it can even heal long-lasting pain-inducing physical injuries (which from my research, are mostly caused by the trigger points that remain after the initial injury). So now I am having the luxury of simply doing the exercises, and then during or afterwards, exploring my body for any blockages, keeping my awareness there, and letting the qi do the work. The effects are much stronger whilst actually doing the exercise (but that's why I wanted to make sure with Sifu Terry if it is OK to do it like this) I have also been able to release several subloxated vertebrae in several sessions this way (that even chiros weren't able to help with despite their best efforts). I am still working on a major subloxated vertebrae (T8-10) that is really hard because by very nature of having to stay upright during the postures, I can't get it to relax. But I can still direct the energy there for healing afterwards, or any time for that matter. I have had my greatest success in helping to heal my neck and shoulders in this way, and I have still have a lot more left to explore. It really is an incredibly enjoyable and fun process. Hi CC, Of course I cannot answer for Sifu Terry but as far as the chi releasing blockages I would say that is the essence of what Traditional Chinese Medicine is all about! That is what it is designed to do since TCM believes all illness is due to an imbalance in energies so it moves stuck energy and that restores health. That is just one example of what the chi does. But what I am impressed about is that you are so fortunate to be able to directly experience the chi at work. After 6 yrs of chi kung I still can only feel chi in my hands when I do the movements and nothing afterward when the session is done. Speaking of which, I have just learned the first FP med on vol. 5 and I would really enjoy hearing the experiences of all you guys out there who have done vol. 5 meds. What have you experienced from these "amazingly simple" meds? What can I expect to experience from them? CC you get to directly experience chi kung working for you whereas I have to consult my medical clairvoyant who just by thinking the name of the meditation or the breathing sequence numbers can literally see in his consciousness what each meditation is doing for me. I will share what he has said about these powerful meds after the rest of you guys familiar with vol. 5 share what you have eperienced then we will compare notes. Steve Edited April 21, 2013 by CrunchyChocolate555 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tao stillness Posted April 21, 2013 CC, that is an encouraging report and a testimony to the healing benefits of chi. I turned down a date for this afternoon due to my affections being directed elsewhere. Namely, volume 5 of Flying Phoenix Chi Kung, lol. I really wanted to learn the rest of those short but powerful meditations today and I just have one more to learn, but the night is young. I would like to list the beautiful names of the first four meditations on that volume: White Crane Folds Wings; Phoenix and Dragon Play; Lift Earth to Heaven; Dragon Emerges from Cave. Based on what my medical intuitive saw from these meditaitions, it can be said that the name of each meditation pretty much describes what each meditation accomplishes in terms of chi/energy. So the chosen names are not just this random flowery poetry that someone in the Doo family lineage assigned to the meditations. The names are symbolic depictions of what can be expected from doing these meditations. There are so many gifts packed into these short meditations. BIg surprises sometimes come in small packages! Gratitude to the Doo family lineage and Sifu Terry Dunn. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrunchyChocolate555 Posted April 22, 2013 One final, final question for Sifu Terry When do you plan on releasing Volume 6 in the series? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fu_doggy Posted April 24, 2013 CC - I second what Steve has said. You've made some very inspirational posts. Sorry to hear about your subloxated vertibrae, and I admire your resolve to practice and your positive attitude. The FP energy is cumulative over time, very good for your overall physical and mental health, though I can't say how it will effect your vertebrae issue. Please keep us posted on your progress! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fu_doggy Posted April 25, 2013 So last night I couldn't start my FP practice until late, about 10:30 PM. I finished my FP routine with Advanced Seated 60 70 40 5, which was amazingly energizing (maybe helped because the moon is waxing almost full). Went to bed around midnight but had so much energy there was NO WAY that I was going to sleep. My energy had me supercharged....like I just drank a double expresso! LOL Didn't doze off until 3:30 AM. So just sharing my experience..... If you're practicing late at night you may wish to skip that one. ;-) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tao stillness Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Lloyd, Which volume is 60 70 40 5? Is that vol. 7, I hope since I have that one but have only done the one for deep sleep on that volume. Steve Edited April 25, 2013 by tao stillness 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fu_doggy Posted April 26, 2013 Yes that's the one Steve! If you are just starting the advanced seated you are in for a real treat. Since you have a really good background in TM, I believe you will quickly see just how meditative these advanced seated exercises can be. And that's what fooled me about 60 70 40 5. While I was doing it I simply felt myself in a phenomenally deep, wonderful meditative state. But, when I finished and took the 3 deep breaths I found my energy level had become unbelievably high! Like Wow! So when you get into the advanced seated vol 7, I will look forward to hearing about our experiences. Cheers! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tao stillness Posted April 26, 2013 Thanks for that inspiring answer LLoyd. While in the shower this morning the thought came to me that I have been doing 50-20-10 on volume 7 before I go to sleep now for the last several months so I should learn the rest of the meds on that volume. And then when I read your endorsement of those meds it was the perfect answer since TM stopped taking me to deep levels over 2 yrs ago due to stress in the heart chakra effecting the brain so the mind is no longer settling down enough in meditation to perceive subtle energy so i am not transcending thoughts any longer so I have been seeking a method to bring back that meditative state. I am grateful for your description of what you have been experiencing from volume 7. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tao stillness Posted April 26, 2013 LLoyd, How many repetitions are done for 60 70 40 5? Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen-bear Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) Dear Sifu Terry, I would like to know your thoughts on practicing FPQ if one has a really bad posture that prevents them from sitting/standing up straight? For the sitting meditation, I have to keep my back supported to be able to sit, but even then, I have to use an enormous amount of energy and tension to keep my back up and straight and prevent it from collapsing forward. I can never really fully relax and especially the T8-10 area in my back remains "closed" where no energy can pass throguh.. I know it's not ideal in the slightest, but is there a way to do the meditations in the lying down position, at least until I can get the energy flowng properly through my back? If not, how should I best proceed? Because I want to keep doing it but have a hard time seeing how it would resolve itself. I can't imagine making any progress until I am able to release the tension, but it's the only thing that's keeping me from completely collapsing. I have seen a lot of specialists concerning my postural problems, but none have told me wha I can do to fix it.. Any advice would be much appreciated.. Hi Crunchy Chocolate, I agree with Tao Stillness: great screenname! Answer to your question: We all have to work around our respective limitations, handicaps, and physical/emotional inmpairments. If your spine is bent due to muscular tension, the FP Qigong over time will relieve the tension--unless your lifestyle (includes work, recreation, diet, sleep habits, etc. of course) is constantly creating the tension localized in that area that you described, T8-10. However, if your spine is bent due to fused vertebrae or some type of skeletal injury or genetic malformation, all you can do is practice the FP Qigong the best you can while handling any pain and discomfort the best you can in the process. "I can't imagine making any progress until I am able to release the tension, but it's the only thing that's keeping me from completely collapsing." I would have to see you in person to understand your condition and assess how FP Qigong might be able to help--or not. Your statement above suggests that you've never been aware of or experienced the reality of having upright natural posture. Your belief that you can't make progress in FP Qigong without releasing the energy locked up in the identified spinal tension but that releasing that tension will cause permanent collapse of your posture is an usual conclusion, a Catch-22, and what I sense is spoken out of fear of the unknown that awaits you after you get that tension released (assuming that release is possible). i can't say much more without examining you in person. But for now, remember that pain is in the resistance and that FP Qigong is most effective in relaxing the body and mind so that it's natural self-healing faculties are activated. And I would suggest that you continue the FP practice the best you can and see what happens. FP Qigong will certainly add no additional stress to your system whatsoever. Regards, Sifu Terry Edited April 26, 2013 by zen-bear 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen-bear Posted April 26, 2013 One final, final question for Sifu Terry When do you plan on releasing Volume 6 in the series? Hi CC, I will redo Vol.6 when I shoot the next (and final) wave of Tai Chi for Health (4 volumes) and Chi Kung for Health dvd's (Vols. 6, 8, 9, 10), which I hope will be later this year, around late summer or fall. But they probably won't be released until early part of 2014 at the earliest because editing and post-production takes a long time. Thanks for asking. Sifu Terry. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zen-bear Posted April 26, 2013 LLoyd, How many repetitions are done for 60 70 40 5? Steve Seven repetitions--as in all the basic Flying Phoenix seated meditations collectively called "Monk Serves Wine." I'm glad to hear that you are discovering the joy and wonder of the seated meditations in Vol.7. And thanks go to Lloyd once again for sharing his solid and verifiable experience with this particular exercise!~ Best, Sifu Terry www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tao stillness Posted April 27, 2013 Thanks Sifu Terry for answering how many reps on that meditation which I later discovered just by watching all of your demo instead of this morning being too hasty to learn it right before I had to leave work so I never finished the whole demo. So now I am going to do 60 70 40 5 with the breath sequence and I realize that due to my unique nervous system I might not have the same experiences as Lloyd or other people at this time. I also find your adadge to CC: "the pain is in the resistance", to be a profound lesson for all of life. One of the major teachings of the avatar that I follow is "fully experiencing what is." And to resist what is, causes suffering. Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tao stillness Posted April 27, 2013 Well, I just did my initial meditation 4 on volume 7 of Flying Phoenix and there was quite an unmistakable sensation of strong chi in the hands. Very powerful stuff and once again, so easy to learn and do. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ridingtheox Posted April 28, 2013 Today I am at day 50 in practice of long form (dvd 4) and the MSW seated meditations (dvd 2). I have missed two days. The long drives to Redlands from Cascabel sometime leave me too tired to do. Also I don't always get all three of the MSW routines in each day. I also include almost every day 2 or 3 of the short form series. Early morning long form and one MSW. afternoon 1 - 2 MSW and 1-2 short form evenings irregularly long form (yin side) and one MSW. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrunchyChocolate555 Posted April 29, 2013 What have your results been like if you care to share? Today I am at day 50 in practice of long form (dvd 4) and the MSW seated meditations (dvd 2). I have missed two days. The long drives to Redlands from Cascabel sometime leave me too tired to do. Also I don't always get all three of the MSW routines in each day. I also include almost every day 2 or 3 of the short form series. Early morning long form and one MSW. afternoon 1 - 2 MSW and 1-2 short form evenings irregularly long form (yin side) and one MSW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShivaShakti Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) Even the basic meds can light you up to have more chi. But glad the advance seated meds can ignite more. I do experientially agree that late night FP practice is a no-no, when going to bed (except for the sleeper meds ). In regards to lighting up (radiating more energy) It is possible to attract visitations. That did happen to me, as I posted back. Recently I have been exchanging emails from someone who did have a strong connection (or merged) with his higher self. He explained to me what happened re my alien visitation. Here is some part of his email response to me. ...you have mastered to some extent the energy work, your aura shows it to the universe and you are an attractive human being for certain kind of aliens. Those who are here to study us and learn especially how we managed to shine so much light / energy and so much love. These aliens are much advanced than us in terms of the use of technology but not spiritually. Edited April 29, 2013 by ShivaShakti Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted April 29, 2013 Aliens? Are they kind (good)? Is not it mind game? Is it spiritual to have such connections? I am reading C. Castaneda's books again after 8 years and find it very inspiring. But many authentic traditions (even taoist) stand to avoid these contacts. Do you do any special practice like lucid dreaming? I am just trying to be more aware at the day time and consider it as a dream and not to miss my practice. As for late practice meditations from DVD2 it does not make me "awake", I do not do 90 80 50 20. And sleep very well. I just wonder should we develop lucid dreaming or may be we need good rest at night time? Taoists say it dispersing much jing. And they even do some practice to avoid it. (I just have suspicion that Castaneda was taught in authentic lineage ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted April 29, 2013 I like this: Power comes only after we accept our fate without recriminations. * * * When one has nothing to lose, one becomes courageous. We are timid only when there is something we can still cling to. A warrior doesn't seek anything for his solace, nor can he possibly leave anything to chance. A warrior actually affects the outcome of events by the force of his awareness and his unbending intent . * * * You must lose your human form. You don't yet know about the human mold and the human form. The human form is a force and the human mold is ... well ... a mold. Everything has a particular mold. Plants have molds, animals have molds, worms have molds. Sorcerers have the avenue of their dreaming to lead them to the mold. The mold of men is definitely an entity, an entity which can be seen by some of us at certain times when we are imbued with power, and by all of us for sure at the moment of our death. The mold is the source, the origin of man, since, without the mold to group together the force of life, there is no way for that force to assemble itself into the shape of man. The human form is a sticky force that makes us the people we are. The human form has no form. It's anything, but in spite of not having form, it possesses us during our lives and doesn't leave us until we die. A warrior must drop the human form in order to change, to really change. Otherwise there is only talk about change. One cannot change one iota as long as one holds on to the human form. A warrior knows that he cannot change, and yet he makes it his business to try to change, even though he knows that he won't be able to. That's the only advantage a warrior has over the average man. The warrior is never disappointed when he fails to change. The only thing that makes you think you are yourself is the form. Once it leaves, you are nothing. A warrior without form begins to see an eye. The formless warrior uses that eye to start dreaming . If you don't have a form, you don't have to go to sleep to do dreaming . The eye in front of you pulls you every time you want to go. Everything has to be sifted through our human form. When we have no form, then nothing has form and yet everything is present. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antares Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) one of the positive changes that happened to me recently... i was struggling for the right diet for few years and was not successful. but last couple weeks something dramatically changed. i eat only once a day some grains with ghee and then only drink juice or milk and i am not hungry at all. i do not want any sweets or anything else. just some grains and warm milk and fruits. and i dont want alcohol at all. i just finished my ayurveda cleansing and still cleansing stomach, and want to do shankh prakshalana with salt water and continue my once a day meal with drinking liquids. if i do this i feel more light myself. but it is difficult to overcome negative thoughts. it is a real challenge. *** It doesn't matter what anybody says or does. You must be an impeccable man yourself. The fight is right here in this chest. It takes all the time and all the energy we have to conquer the idiocy in us. And that's what matters. The rest is of no importance. To be an impeccable warrior will give you vigor and youth and power. I have taught you to be dispassionate. The world of people goes up and down and people go up and down with their world; as sorcerers we have no business following them in their ups and downs. The art of sorcerers is to be outside everything and be unnoticeable. And more than anything else, the art of sorcerers is never to waste their power. Edited April 29, 2013 by Eugene 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fpck Posted April 29, 2013 Hello Sifu Terry I have a question about FPCK. I have practiced basic standing and seated meds from vol 1 and 2 for a week now. My background is from zhan zhuang and 8 pieces of brocade which I stopped to switch to FPCK. I noticed that although I feel lighter, I am also more tired since I have begun FPCK. Is it something normal, like a temporary adjustment of my body to this new system? Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ruthless Posted April 30, 2013 Sifu Terry, I just started doing Vol III a week ago and did WTTT twice a day. Today I added MSOW. They do not take much time compared to VI and VII. Should I just do these 2 for a while before doing VI & VII again? Andy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShivaShakti Posted April 30, 2013 Eugene, I posted it here Ok just not to confuse anyone again, not saying this visitations, (3 members, including me) is an indication of your spiritual progress (though possibly) ,but saying here that because you're like a beacon when practicing FP. So there is a possibility that you attract divine beings, alien, luminous bodies, and people. Heck I noticed girls looks at my face after FP practice!!! Just doing vol 2 mostly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites