Flying Phoenix Chi Kung

[puretruth01]

When it comes to these things i find it best to use a wise eye when looking at things like this.

 

Did GMDW say that fp was for healing? Yes. Did you have a one on one personal conversation with GMDW as a indoor student about the fp? No.

 

 

Yes fp can lead to health but so can regular meditation. So what are you doing with the fp? Then it must be that you are cultivating some type of energy for a specfic purpose.

 

Since fp has buddhist roots did anyone research blue light manifestation with actualy budhhist practices? Im going to say no.

 

As far as that goes this is what ive found.

 

 

"Vajradhara - The Adi-Buddha of Indestructible Blue Light Vajradhara is the Adi-Buddha for both the Red-cap and Yellow-cap Vajrayana schools, as well as the lord of all mysteries and master of all secrets. Vajradhara, or he who holds the thunderbolt is said to conquer and subdue all evil spirits who are the enemies of Buddhism. He presides over the eight Dharmapalas who are the ferocious defenders of the dharma."

 

 

This could be something. If you track vajrayana to and from emeishan you may find something.

 

Does fp lead to immortality? I dont see how it could not given the size of the system the results that practitioners gets and so on.

 

Below is some pics of emeishan for everyones enjoyment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its best to use an investigative eye when researching these things.

 

Just my 2 cents

Edited July 4, 2013 by puretruth01

[Warrior Body Buddha Mind]

Omei was a Taoist mountain before the buddhist came & also used it, there is still both buddhism chan & Tibetan as well Taoist temples. Yes you need to research as I mentioned & now pure truth.

[Warrior Body Buddha Mind]

nice pics by the way

[Antares]

That's I wanted to clear up too. When they say Tradition it is not only scriptures and yoga postures or qigong.

Tradition is Energy. By doing certain practice with certain approach one should connect to this energy.

[Warrior Body Buddha Mind]

Then u need to have good listening & awareness skills!

[Warrior Body Buddha Mind]

By practicing

[puretruth01]

Yes im an avid resercher.

 

I actually spoke to a practitioner of emei shan qigong who has been to emeishan a few times.

 

Ive been researching emeishan for the past year I came across this

 

Bai Yun

Emei, the '"Lofty Eyebrow Peak,” is the highest and holiest of China’s four sacred Buddhist mountains, and the Golden Summit Monastery is at its highest point. In 1227 A.D., a Daoist monk who lived on the mountain made a pilgrimage to the summit. Here, he meditated and fasted while spiritual masters guided his path toward wisdom and enlightenment. When he broke his fast, he took the name “Bai Yun,” or “White Cloud.”

The enlightened monk combined the more than 3,600 schools of thought, philosophies, and techniques that had been taught to him by his teachers and created a comprehensive system of health called the Emei Linji School of Qigong—or Emei Qigong for short. The Linji school is the largest Chan Buddhist sect in China. Emei Qigong includes Buddhism, Karma, Kanyu, acupuncture, herbal medicine, Daoist and Buddhist Qigong, Taiji, extra sensory perception (ESP) diagnosis and treatment, iron body, martial arts, and more. This system is devoted to maintaining excellent health and treating diseases while attaining the highest levels of spiritual development.

In a pure vision, the Bodhisattva Samantabhadra, the great spirit of Emei Mountain, told Grandmaster Bai Yun to take the teachings and pass them down, lineage holder to lineage holder, master to master, in order to help future generations.

Grandmaster Bai Yun chronicled the sacred knowledge in a book called “The Emei Treasured Lotus Canon” lest it be forgotten or misinterpreted. This book is currently held in a Beijing museum.

Zhou Qian Chuan

The years surrounding the Second World War were a time of great political and social turmoil in China, and people's lives were very difficult. During this time, when Grandmaster Yong Yan was traveling from mountain to mountain, he met an army major general, Zhou Qian Chuan, who was a Western medical doctor. Major General Zhou had serious internal cracking in his liver caused by the violent vibrations of a bomb that had exploded very close to him. He had tried all the famous Western medical doctors and no one could heal him. Grandmaster Yong Yan befriended the major general, treated and cured his ailments with Emei Qigong healing techniques.

Overwhelmed with joy and gratitude, the major general wanted to leave all his responsibilities to become a monk and to serve this great man who had restored his health. Grandmaster Yong Yan refused his request to become a monk but allowed him to come to Emei Mountain to study under him. Zhou Qian Chuan studied with and served Grandmaster Yong Yan for 13 years, and the Grandmaster ordained him as the first layman to receive the title Lineage Holder. So it was that Zhou Qian Chuan became the 12th Lineage Holder of Emei Qigong. With the introduction of a lay lineage holder, Grandmaster Yong Yan altered the tradition of passing the lineage only from monk to monk. The lay lineage holder was to have two major responsibilities. One was to spread the teachings of Emei Qigong to the public so that more people may benefit from the powerful knowledge held within the Emei Tradition. The second responsibility was to pass the complete teachings to a monk lineage holder so that the teachings may be kept intact, pure and accurate.

With Grandmaster Zhou, as the first lay Lineage holder, to help take over, Grandmaster Yong Yan then left Emei Mountain and went to Southwest China. And as he had foreseen, monks were imprisoned or killed and many of the monasteries on the mountain were destroyed, including the Golden Summit Monastery.

The newly ordained Grandmaster Zhou stayed on Emei Mountain but often came down and traveled to the Kangding area to help people suffering the ravages of war.

Ju Zan

When World War II ended, Grandmaster Zhou went to Beijing to seek the Supreme Buddhist Abbot Ju Zan, the monk to whom he would pass the Emei Qigong traditions and teachings. Abbot Ju Zan’s whose religious status and title is similar to that of the Tibetan Dalai Lama. Abbot Ju Zan knew of the great Emei Qigong system through visions and was prepared for Grandmaster Zhou’s arrival.

After a number of years of studying (1950 – 1958), Grandmaster Zhou ordained Abbot Ju Zan to also be the 12th Lineage Holder. Grandmaster Zhou taught the monk everything that Grandmaster Yong Yan had taught him and they shared the lineage together, according to Grandmaster Yong Yan’s vision. In the 1960s, China’s Cultural Revolution began and Grandmaster Ju Zan was wrongfully imprisoned for eight years. In prison, he meditated and saw the future of Emei Qigong. He was released in the early 1970s.

Grandmaster Fu Wei Zhong

The future envisioned by Grandmaster Ju Zan centered on a young man named Fu Wei Zhong who began his training on the day he was born in 1949. Driven by an exceptional interest in old texts, he studied traditional Chinese medicine and read ancient Chinese philosophies when he was only six years old. By the age of 12, Fu Wei Zhong was treating and healing people with techniques he had learned from his readings and the instruction from his grandfather, a traditional Chinese medical doctor.

He began his martial arts training in Shaolin Gongfu at the age of seven. He became a student of Luo Xing Wu, an eminent Chinese martial arts grandmaster, from whom he learned many martial arts disciplines, including Xingyi and Bagua Gongfu.

Like many other young people during the Chinese Cultural Revolution, Fu Wei Zhong was sent to northeast China's Heilongjiang province. Because of his training, he worked as a veterinarian. He was 18 years old when he arrived and opened a medical clinic. For eight years, he used traditional Chinese medicinal herbs and treatment techniques, including acupuncture and Chinese massage, to treat multitudes of sick people and animals with great success.

Fu Wei Zhong returned to Beijing in 1976 and taught martial arts at the Beijing Dongcheng District Martial Arts School for a year. He planned to take a master’s degree in religion and was looking for a renowned teacher to guide him in his studies. A friend took him to meet Abbot Ju Zan, the
Supreme Abbot of Chinese Buddhism and 12th Lineage Holder of
Emei Qigong.

Since childhood, Fu Wei Zhong had had a recurring dream of a monk. He did not recognize the monk nor knew why the images kept coming to him. When he saw the Abbot, he recognized him as the monk from his dreams. At their meeting, they looked at each other and the Abbot said, “Oh, you’ve finally arrived, it’s time for you to train!” as if they already knew each other.

Fu Wei Zhong underwent training to be the 13th layman Lineage Holder of Emei Qigong.

He received instruction in Buddhism, Daoism, traditional Chinese medicine, Taijiquan, Qigong, Feng Shui, future prediction, and other Dharma methods exclusively transmitted from one Lineage Holder to another within the Emei Qigong system. Fu Wei Zhong was usually in seclusion—studying, cultivating, and integrating the system’s ancient texts into practical forms and easy-to-read language that could be effectively taught to the public.

In 1984, the title of the 13th Lineage Holder was bestowed on him. He received the Emei Qigong sacred book “The Emei Treasured Lotus Canon” and officially assumed the title of Grandmaster as well as the responsibilities of being the Lineage Holder. Grandmaster Ju Zan directed him to begin teaching publicly, so that “ the pain and suffering of the world could end and to allow Emei Qigong to bring humanity to shine like the sun.”

In the spring of 1985, Fu Wei Zhong began teaching Emei Qigong healing techniques throughout China, initiating a national revitalization of the role of Qigong in Chinese medicine's theory and practice. In 1989, he went into seclusion again to meditate for three more years. During this period of extended meditation, he achieved the Qigong state necessary to decode and decipher the obscure and complex Emei Qigong teachings and techniques and adapt them into a form that could be more easily taught to the public in our fast-paced modern society. Grandmaster Fu now teaches some of these skills in his lectures, seminars and writings.

He believes that only by training thousands of skilled Emei Qigong practitioners will it be possible to restore and preserve the health of millions. He has personally treated, healed and helped thousands of people—the rich and famous as well as orphans and patients considered incurable. China’s late president Deng Xiao Ping was among those helped by Grandmaster Fu. Using the methods of Emei Qigong cultivation, medical qigong and traditional Chinese herbal medicine,

Grandmaster Fu has successfully cured tens of thousands of people who have come to him for healing.

At age 36, he was recognized as one of the most prominent grandmasters of Qigong and Traditional Chinese Medicine. The Chinese have dubbed him “Emei Wizard” and “China’s Medical Buddha," as well as deeming him “The Father of Modern Medical Qigong.” In addition, Fu Wei Zhong has been made lifetime president of two Qigong institutions: The International Medical Qigong Academy and The Emei Linji International Qigong Medical Research Institute, and he holds honorary positions and titles in more than 50 hospitals, medical colleges, Qigong clinics and Qigong associations in China. Fu Wei Zhong is a learned scholar. Having read thousands of books, both Chinese and foreign, he is well versed in the medical, philosophical and theological theories of different schools, both Eastern and Western. While studying, he took careful notes and wrote down his reflections, which number over three million words. To date, he has published six books and over twenty treatises in China.

Fu Wei Zhong immigrated to the United States in 1995. His goal was to disseminate Emei Qigong’s therapeutic techniques so that its methods could be fused with contemporary western medical techniques. His goal is to alleviate much of the suffering in today’s world. He was determined to transmit the knowledge and skills of Emei Qigong to the American public.

Since his arrival in the United States, Grandmaster Fu has given lectures and workshops in over 30 American cities. He was invited to the University of San Francisco and the University of California at San Diego to lecture on Qigong and was a visiting professor at the American College of Traditional Chinese Medicine in San Francisco, where he taught curriculum-required courses on the Emei methodology of Qi (energy) emission for diagnosis and treatment. In 1996, he participated in an experiment at the Atlantic Tumor Hospital in California that involved the emission of Qi into cancer cells. The initial positive results enabled the experiment to be taken to a bigger scale. In 2001, these encouraging results were published in the magazine, Spirituality and Health. Fu Wei Zhong also participated in an experiment conducted by the California Pacific Medical Center of Complementary Medicine Research Institute to test Qigong and other holistic modalities in the treatment of brain tumors from a distance. The Discovery Channel filmed Grandmaster Fu at the Medical Center and aired the documentary in Canada on a show called “Daily Planet.”

Today, there are many thousands of Emei Qigong students in the United States and 2 million followers of Emei Qigong worldwide. What the world needs now,more than ever, is a heart-centered system like Emei Qigong to bring health, vitality and true kindness to people.

Fu Wei Zhong had made two majorpromises to his Master, the Venerable Abbot Ju Zan. He was to pass on the complete teachings of the Emei Linji Qigong tradition to the next monk lineage holder so that the wisdom of Emei Qigong be rigorously preserved andavailable to be passed onto the future . Secondly, he was going to spread the teachings of Emei Qigong in the world so that many may benefit from it. He has identified and is in the process of teaching the next monk lineage holder. To spread the teachings of Emei Qigong to the world, he has developed a system of courses to be completed by dedicated students. These students would become teachers of Emei Qigong so that they may continue his work to spread and share the benefits embodied in Emei Qigong.

In the fall of 2006, Grandmaster Fu taught the Level IV seminar, the Emei Qigong Level I Teacher’s Training, for the first time. This month-long session was held at Emei Mountain in China, and selected students lived and studied at the base of the mountain during this time. The training was successful; students emerged from this intensive training with a much deeper and comprehensive understanding of Emei Qigong, and many will continue their training to become Level I teachers. A second group of prospective Level I teachers took the Level IV training in 2007.

For the next few years, Grandmaster Fu will concentrate on training the monk who will become the next lineage holder in China and the students who will become Emei Qigong Level I , Level II and Level III teachers.

This was quoted from here http://www.emeiqigong-zenhealing.com/history.html

I also came across this book.

The Emei Linji Qigong book

Description of the book

Translated when Grandmaster Fu originally arrived in the United States in 1995. This book includes macro and micro training for healing specific diseases and maintaining the health of specific organs, unique Emei Food Therapy recipes from the treasures of Emei Lineage, frequently asked questions and selective case histories of curative effects of Qigong Therapy. 135 pages.

Also includes moving and still Qigong and 18 Methods of Medical Qigong.Translated when Grandmaster Fu originally arrived in the United States in 1995. This book includes macro and micro training for healing specific diseases and maintaining the health of specific organs, unique Emei Food Therapy recipes from the treasures of Emei Lineage, frequently asked questions and selective case histories of curative effects of Qigong Therapy. 135 pages.

Also includes moving and still Qigong and 18 Methods of Medical Qigong.Translated when Grandmaster Fu originally arrived in the United States in 1995. This book includes macro and micro training for healing specific diseases and maintaining the health of specific organs, unique Emei Food Therapy recipes from the treasures of Emei Lineage, frequently asked questions and selective case histories of curative effects of Qigong Therapy. 135 pages.

Also includes moving and still Qigong and 18 Methods of Medical Qigong.

Edited July 4, 2013 by puretruth01

[puretruth01]

Now i spoke to these people and i noticed some simliarites between what they do and the arts of GMDW.

 

The herbal forumulas they have them to.

The breaking of round objects

the 18 methods of unlocking

 

So now that i spoke to another group of practitioners of emeishan. I can say that what GMDW teaches and his students is completely 100% authentic. The history is true and valid.

[puretruth01]

Omei was a Taoist mountain before the buddhist came & also used it, there is still both buddhism chan & Tibetan as well Taoist temples. Yes you need to research as I mentioned & now pure truth.

I did not know this im still trying to find out more info about emei shan.

 

 

Thanks for the info

 

There is so much out about shaolin and wudang and lunghushan but there isnt that much info about emeishan.

[Antares]

Tilopa (988-1069)

 

Tilopa (Tibetan; Sanskrit: Talika, 988 - 1069) was an Indian tantric practitioner and mahasiddha. He discovered the mahamudra process, a set of spiritual practices that greatly accelerated the process of attaining bodhi (enlightenment). He is regarded as the human founder of the Kagyu lineage of Tibetan Buddhism and is, in effect, the Buddha Vajradhara ...

...During a meditation he received a vision of Buddha Vajradhara and, according to legend, the entire mahamudra was directly transmitted to Tilopa. After having received the transmission, Tilopa embarked on a wandering existence and started to teach. He appointed Naropa, his most important student, as his successor.

http://www.garchen.net/lineage.html

 

Just interesting.

[Warrior Body Buddha Mind]

All meditation and energy work is spiritual...dont need to be in a sect

[Antares]

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Edited August 13, 2015 by Antares

[Antares]

All meditation and energy work is spiritual...dont need to be in a sect

 

I am not sure. I can not say yes or no.

But in the most lineages they say about transmission. It's not just practicing.

Sect... hmm... may be it is not always just a group of people? It is energy behind it.

Many teachings akin to Dzogchen were received from enlightened beings in high state of mind by spiritual adepts.

That's why I stressed attention on Taoist texts. Dao Yin without Tradition is just callisthenics. Tough question

[Warrior Body Buddha Mind]

exactly just do it..

[Warrior Body Buddha Mind]

That all depends if u treat it as callisthenics

[Antares]

I cite Jerry Johnson's words from his book on Taoist Alchemy:

 

"Each true Daoist magic magical lineage has "Celestial Guardians" Who are assigned by the Heavenly Realm, to oversee the esoteric teachings of that specific spiritual lineage. These powerful Spirit Entities are responsible for maintaining the spiritual integrity of the sacred teachings of that particular Daoist sect. In advanced alchemical teaching, when certain information has been downloaded from the master to the disciple... it is the responsibility of these celestial Guardians to open certain energetic portals in order to facilitate the successful manifestation of that particular magical teaching."

[Warrior Body Buddha Mind]

DOGMA!!! PUH...

 

Its a DOO family system, passed down from a monk called FDD he learn from many and travelled to many areas. His goddess vision wasnt in a temple it was on his travels, some people claim to see jesus with no meditation or energy cultivation.

[Warrior Body Buddha Mind]

There is many monks in all sects that never attain spiritual enlightenment but they practice, all the text in the world will not matter if u do not faithfully do the practice without connection of yourself and Dao.

 

 

Attain the ultimate emptiness
Hold on to the truest tranquility
The myriad things are all active
I therefore watch their return

Everything flourishes; each returns to its root
Returning to the root is called tranquility
Tranquility is called returning to one's nature
Returning to one's nature is called constancy
Knowing constancy is called clarity

Not knowing constancy, one recklessly causes trouble
Knowing constancy is acceptance
Acceptance is impartiality
Impartiality is sovereign
Sovereign is Heaven
Heaven is Tao
Tao is eternal
The self is no more, without danger

[Warrior Body Buddha Mind]

This above is pure alchemy...

[tao stillness]

Thank you Sifu Garry for post 2243. To me that also describes the mechanics of Transcendental Mediation and all truly effective spiritual methods. You quiet the mind thru an energy source and then go beyond thoughts to Pure Awareness which is the same as the vacuum state of quantum mechanics. It is empty but contains the potential of all physical manifestation. The Mother of 10,000 things. The Source, the Tao. This is why what you quoted is not only beautiful but to me sums up all of cultivation. And since it is beyond all thoughts, but is the source of thought, when the brain is fully integrated as shown by modern EEG patterns, that is inner peace, bliss, Samadhi, etc. The small self, the ego, is gone and is replaced by our true Nature, which is wholeness, Oneness. When that state becomes fully integrated in the nervous system we are then Awakened and live it 24/7 and then are guided by the laws of Nature and our life then flows without the filter of the ego. We are then the big Self. That quote describes the path, the method, the spiritual technology, the Path of all paths. And you are so right when you say that what it takes to get there is to just keep doing our chosen practice. Transcend the self to reach the Self. As my guru taught, no one can meditate for you.

[Antares]

That quote describes the path, the method, the spiritual technology, the Path of all paths. And you are so right when you say that what it takes to get there is to just keep doing our chosen practice. Transcend the self to reach the Self. As my guru taught, no one can meditate for you.

 

Yes, but why then in Oneness they do Deeksha? In Yoga - Shaktipat. Dogma?

[Leif]

"Each true Daoist magic magical lineage has "Celestial Guardians" Who are assigned by the Heavenly Realm, to oversee the esoteric teachings of that specific spiritual lineage.

 

IMHO that's about Daoist magic lineages, not Daoist lineages.

 

I might be wrong with what I perceive as your criteria for selecting what to study, but I'm quite surprised that you consider Kunlun. Kunlun at least regarding how it´s taught now (ie. not Yigong) was assembled in 21st century, albeit from traditional teachings from close lineages. Nothing bad about that, I just felt you are looking for something completely pure from traditional point of view?

 

Interesting (in regards to what's also been discussed here about whether FP is enough) about Kunlun is that the Yigong sifu claimed that Kunlun level 1 is all you need. And level 1 is a "simple" spontaneous qigong.

And that she even doesn't know how old the Yigong lineage is she just didn't care about it when she learned. She even didn't ask her qigong teacher anything about system she wanted to learn from him, she just felt he was the right person so jumped for the opportunity.

And also that even despite that's all that one needs, she also studies buddhism etc.

 

Sticking with FP you are not closing any doors, if you didn't so already maybe you'll sooner or later find something that'll suit your criteria more, or maybe you'll fall for FP completely. If you'll switch or diminish FP, what you got from FP will likely also contribute to your new efforts it's not time wasted. Not speaking about it contributing to your current situation (at least I hope so, FP bringing results in real time). It might be even FP what will bring you to new destiny one never knows?

 

The person who told you about 18 levels of FP, they also claimed they have many other systems from GMDW, so perhaps it's not out of human's reach (for sure it seems to me out of reach, but myself I don't care much, I'll be happy with the capstone moving meditation) and one doesn't have to recite breathing percentages for all the couple hundreds out of memory I'm sure.

Maybe Sifu Terry will clarify more about FP levels etc. once he's back to the thread (but for me I can't be bothered as much only striving for personal results (health etc.) not system results (ranks nor levels) and what I got works so I'm happy, but we all have different personal goals that's sure).

[Fu_doggy]

Thank you Sifu Garry for your last half dozen posts..... Pure gold!

[Antares]

Leif, they say of transmission not only in magic... But is not BFP magic?

Anyhow Tradition should be the bridge between a person and Tao.

Is Tao only the Emptiness? Tao is the Path too. Tao is vehicle too.

Tradition is vehicle.

 

You can find in Taoist texts how high level masters criticize distorted Chan adepts of which just trying to still the mind attaining the false emptiness. The transmission of spiritual lineage is the rule of all authentic lineages in yoga/tantra/Taoism. In yoga they say no guru no yoga. They call it deeksha or shaktipat which is supernatural divine force. This is the engine of Tradition.

 

I was considering Kunlun because it is powerful and short. It were my thoughts when I heard of xxx meds in FP. But may be I did not undesrstand right. 18 levels may be 18 seated and standing in total plus dynamic forms. Anyhow that person gives some precious information about meds. It was said that 5 minutes are enough for static and not to same meds for more than 6 months. And good to mix BFP stuff. That's why for some people SYG seems to be more powerful after FP. And vice versa.

I can do SYG and how many fp meds I can. Good meds, good lineage.

The thing here is might be that some lineages are purely spiritual traditional and another ones are half way traditional. You can compare them only having experience in both. Otherwise it is guessing what is dogma and what is not.

 

Who has experience in authentic traditional Taoist lineages? People doing qigong here mostly, mixing stuff and judging and sometime spreading their believes. Peace

[Fu_doggy]

Lief - great point about a focus on personal results vs. system results.

 

In the Vedic traditions there are a mumber of stories that often depict a person who is only partially aware of a spiritual technique, but he practices what he knows faithfully, sincerely and constantly.....and eventually surpasses the master who knows all the details.

 

Those stories have left an impression on me, and so for me it is more about the sincerity of my practice vs. the system of practice. That said, I found FP resonated with me and so I went with it.

 

I was is Los Angeles a few weeks ago, and unfortunately missed Sifu Terry because coincidentally he was (and is) on a trip to the East Coast. My comment to Sifu Terry was there is so much more I can get out of *what I currently know* that I feel the practice itself will continue to teach me.

 

At this point I am quite content with the qigong meditations contained within the available FP DVD's, because the limiting factor isn't the system; it is me.