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1 hour ago, zen-bear said:

 

Hi Boreas,

 

I don't quite understand what your acupuncturist had diagnosed you as having when you wrote:   "I was checking the box for the beginning of a deviation..."

Where is the "deviation"?  In what part of the body?

• What presenting problem or type of pain(s) do you have that caused you to seek treatment from an acupuncturist?

 

Unless you are having symptoms that prevent you from doing the FPCK breathing formulas and/or that make assuming the basic postures such as  Monk Holding Pearl, MHPeach, and Monk Gazing At Moon painful, then hold back from practice.  But FP Qigong is  so mild, so restorative and stress-dissipating that you can continue practicing it so long as you are feeling its calming, energizing, and  rejuvenating effects.   And should any of the standing FP Meditations become difficult or painful, then practice the seated Monk Serves wine seated Meds. in Volumes 2 and 7.

 

Remember:  I was vetted and cleared by the I.R.B. of Cedars-Sinai Medical center in L.A. in 1999-2000 to write the first in-hospital Qigong protocol in American medical history for the Dept. of Cardio-Thoracic Surgery to accelerate the recover of acute-care pot-operative patients (who had major heart, lung and back surgeries...having their chests replumbed.).  This content of first of its kind protocol was 80% FP Qigong.

 

Good luck.

 

Sifu Terry

 

 

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He told me that apart from some Liver Yang rising, qi in my back meridians started to disperse horizontally.

As for the pains, as I've wrote a few posts before, it's been almost two years that my middle and upper back are painful and nothing seems to do the trick to reduce it. With that, I have regularly acute pains in my lungs that my doctor could never explained as well because, same as my back, they are 100% healthy according to all tests.

So, if those pains are coming from a more energetic angle, I just wanted to be sure that I wouldn't "fuel the fire" by continuing qigong practice...

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12 hours ago, zen-bear said:

The Chinese term you've defined as "yuan shen = original spirit" does not have a functional role in the practice of FP Qigong.

 

On 23.07.2013 at 12:32 AM, Warrior Body Buddha Mind said:

YES Ant, what is sunn gung?

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On 24.07.2013 at 8:58 AM, pitisukha said:

Searching the two characters here http://www.chinese-tools.com/tools/dictionary.html

I think it can be translated as "spiritual/heavenly achievment"

 

In this case it should be used by people on a spiritual quest

 

Don't know about Sunn Dar...

 

On 24.07.2013 at 9:07 AM, Warrior Body Buddha Mind said:

;) getting there

 

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5 hours ago, Boreas said:

He told me that apart from some Liver Yang rising, qi in my back meridians started to disperse horizontally.

As for the pains, as I've wrote a few posts before, it's been almost two years that my middle and upper back are painful and nothing seems to do the trick to reduce it. With that, I have regularly acute pains in my lungs that my doctor could never explained as well because, same as my back, they are 100% healthy according to all tests.

So, if those pains are coming from a more energetic angle, I just wanted to be sure that I wouldn't "fuel the fire" by continuing qigong practice...

Thanks for the additional info, Boreas,
What the acupuncturist said describes energy quality and movement tied to the liver.
Liver, as per 5 Element Theory is tied to the element of Wood and emotion of anger.

Acute pains in tne lungs is associated with the element Metal and the emotion of grief.

Did you suffer some incident 2 yrs ago that caused you grief and  great anger?

 

You can try a little bit of FP Qigong at a time (5 to 10 minutes)...and see if it has good effect.  If it exacerbates any of the pain symptoms, then or course stop.

 

Good luck,

Sifu Terry

 

P.S.   Pain in the upper and middle back and in the lungs are of two types of "body syndromes" in my school/set theory of holistic healing and counseling that is anchored by hypnotherapy (Kappasian, as in John Kappas, founder of Hypnosis Motivation Institute (HMI) in Tarzana, CA--where I trained and was certified in the mid-1980's.)  If you want to do a consultation via Zoom, you can contact me at [email protected]

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On 3/20/2025 at 5:04 PM, Boreas said:

Well, as I mentionned I think in one of my first post on this thread, I came to qigong via Anthony Korahais’ Flowing Zen Qigong (that is basically a rebranding of Wong Kiew Kit’s Shaolin Cosmos Qigong) and I got into the habit of starting my day with a short session of 15 minutes of it before getting into my FPCK morning routine.

 

Could it come from there...?

 

I also practiced Flowing Zen for about 4 years before getting into Flying Phoenix. I noticed that the qi didn't mesh that well when I practiced back to back, so now I wait at least a few hours between the two.

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19 hours ago, zen-bear said:

Thanks for the additional info, Boreas,
What the acupuncturist said describes energy quality and movement tied to the liver.
Liver, as per 5 Element Theory is tied to the element of Wood and emotion of anger.

Acute pains in tne lungs is associated with the element Metal and the emotion of grief.

Did you suffer some incident 2 yrs ago that caused you grief and  great anger?

 

You can try a little bit of FP Qigong at a time (5 to 10 minutes)...and see if it has good effect.  If it exacerbates any of the pain symptoms, then or course stop.

 

Good luck,

Sifu Terry

 

P.S.   Pain in the upper and middle back and in the lungs are of two types of "body syndromes" in my school/set theory of holistic healing and counseling that is anchored by hypnotherapy (Kappasian, as in John Kappas, founder of Hypnosis Motivation Institute (HMI) in Tarzana, CA--where I trained and was certified in the mid-1980's.)  If you want to do a consultation via Zoom, you can contact me at [email protected]

Not that I'm aware of... I was just in the middle of an opera production in USA and those pains just appeared one morning and never left me since...

 

We'll do and keep a diary to record if it exacerbates those even though I don't recall feeling it worse after FPCK practice.

 

And thanks for your offer! I'll see first how it goes with this new acupuncture experience but I keep it in mind

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@daobro, good to know, thanks!

But beside that, never had an adverse reaction from Korahais system in itself?

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Reminder to all FP practitioners:

 

Today from 2:00 to 3:30pm EST, I am teaching a beginners' class in Tao Tan Pai ("Taoist Elixir Method") Basic 31 Meditations followed by 45 minutes of FP Qigong. 

 

This is an excellent opportunity to learn the TTP-31 and the Tao Tan Pai Short Form Power Yoga (a classical distillation of the TTP-31 into 5 essential meditations).   Tao Tan Pai Nei Kung is totally different from FP Qigong in  terms of yogic methodology, as it is highly shen-driven while FP Qigong is very Shen-passive.  Yet all levels of the Tao Tan Pai Nei Kung traditiion serves as a superb foundational catalyst that enhances and prolongs the healing effects of the Flying Phoenix Qigong.

Here is the Zoom log-on information and the tuition info:

ZOOM Meeting ID: 836 4548 3188

 

 

• FEE: $40 per class; $280 / 8-class series; or $500 / 16-class series

Please send tuition via Paypal (to [email protected] or scan the QR code below) or send via Zelle (to [email protected])

Complete details about class content are this and all other issues of my free monthly Newsletter:

https://open.substack.com/pub/terencedunn/p/terry-dunns-tai-chi-for-health-and-92a?r=5i7g9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

 

See you soon on Zoom!

 

Sifu Terry

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11 hours ago, Boreas said:

@daobro, good to know, thanks!

But beside that, never had an adverse reaction from Korahais system in itself?

No. Both have been extremely safe for me. (assuming you do the form and breath control correctly for FP)

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To all FP Practitioners:

 

Reminder that today and every Sunday from 3pm to 4:30pm EST I will be teaching my weekly Intermediate/Advanced Qigong class that covers:
A.    Tao Tan Pai ("Taoist Elixir Method") 31 Meditations (a complete system of Chinese Yoga in and of itself  that accelerates and prolongs the healing effects of FP Qigong) 

B.    Tao Tan Pai 5 Animals Kung Fu forms and weapons.  Each TTP Form is a Shen-driven Qigong exercise.

C.    Advanced Flying Phoenix Qigong

       1.  Essential form corrections and refinement of "Moonbeam Splashes on Water" (on Vol.3) and  "Long Form Capstone Meditation" taught (on Vol.4)

       2.  Advanced Flying Phoenix Qigong - Level 2  (9 standing meditations).

 

Login URL:   https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87650026839?pwd=YkslBzNMFYgZBfJEmpnXFjbWCBIMys.1  

 

• FEE: $60/ class or $440 / 8-class series or $800 / 16-class series                                                                                                                         (Please send tuition via Paypal (to [email protected] or scan QR Code below) or send via Zelle to [email protected])

 

Complete details about course content are on my free weekly Newsletter:    https://open.substack.com/pub/terencedunn/p/terry-dunns-tai-chi-for-health-and-92a?r=5i7g9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

 

See you in class or on Zoom.

 

Sifu Terry

 

 

 

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