The Tao/Way/Power/Magic of Women

[Biff]

See. NOW you're onto something;-) Add to that the cold mother, the absent father and the social rewards for intellectual rationalisation and striving and productivity and keeping your legs shut and you've got a woman who can't do anything except pray for her prince to come and rescue her.

 

Christianity and Patriarchal society have a lot to answer for. That PUA shit just plays on the programming.

[witch]

That's not true--can't get more patriarchal and Christian than South American countries, and you try PUA down there and they will just laugh at you--amiright?

[Enishi]

That's not true--can't get more patriarchal and Christian than South American countries, and you try PUA down there and they will just laugh at you--amiright?

 

That is actually true, one of the big PUAs, Roosh V, has mentioned that PUA does not work as well in south america as it does in the US...

 

Also keep in mind that American Christianity is not the same as Christianity in other places due to cultural factors. American Puritanism was part of the Protestant Progressive tradition, a split off from the mainstream religion in 16th century England...

Edited December 10, 2009 by Enishi

[Biff]

That is actually true, one of the big PUAs, Roosh V, has mentioned that PUA does not work as well in south america as it does in the US...

 

Also keep in mind that American Christianity is not the same as Christianity in other places due to cultural factors. American Puritanism was part of the Protestant Progressive tradition, a split off from the mainstream religion in 16th century England...

 

If your really into PUA stuff then you have to take the framework and use it in context to where you are. Initially is a confidence thing right? of course language patterns would be different. Once you understand language patterns and have grown some balls then you should be able to apply it anywhere.

 

Years ago... I studied with Ross Jeffries and Richard Bandler looking at this stuff (not from a DVD/tape but in peron). Most of today's crap is just that same stuff rehashed. If you understand the culture you can use NLP for sure. Essentialy what Roosh is saying is that you will need to develop different patterns. Not that NLP only works in the US.

[Enishi]

If your really into PUA stuff then you have to take the framework and use it in context to where you are. Initially is a confidence thing right? of course language patterns would be different. Once you understand language patterns and have grown some balls then you should be able to apply it anywhere.

 

Years ago... I studied with Ross Jeffries and Richard Bandler looking at this stuff (not from a DVD/tape but in peron). Most of today's crap is just that same stuff rehashed. If you understand the culture you can use NLP for sure. Essentialy what Roosh is saying is that you will need to develop different patterns. Not that NLP only works in the US.

 

Oh absolutely. Everyone has their own method of developing and implementing game. I'm not bashing game itself, far from it, if you're a man some form of game is good to have in any country! (My own strategy at this moment is to focus more on internal mental strengthening and general social skills. Until I build myself up, I think trying real hard at this moment to find a girlfriend is putting the cart before the horse. I'm also looking into the Juggler method as someone else suggested). The thing is though, I have to question where some PUA techniques are artificial or natural game.

 

Still, the fact there isn't this huge PUA industry in other countries outside the Anglosphere does make one wonder. Along with the stuff about omega-3s and other libido suppressors Witch mentioned, I do wonder if game flows more 'easily' in other countries due to a different cultural atmosphere, people being raised differently, etc.

Edited December 11, 2009 by Enishi

[immortal_sister]

i have been waiting to answer this thread to see what others would say. now this thread has turned into a discussion about the PUA stuff.

 

but anyhow, it was interesting reading witch & kate's posts. there is so much i want to say, but it is far beyond the scope of what should be expressed to perfect strangers on a message board

so here are some thoughts.

 

For instance, I am interested in what 5elementtao (i think it was him) said about women sensing and seeking "yang" power. What do women want? what do women seek? what (if anything) do they seek in return?

 

in my opinion it all boils down to seeking balance. women seek what they perceive will make help them achieve happiness through balance (even if entirely unconsciously). women are by nature more yin, therefore they seek the yang. although that's true, maybe that's over-simplifying it (but sometimes the most obvious and simple answer is the only truth you really need in the long run). a woman who is imbalanced, let's say, and very controlling, domineering and yang, will most likely end up seeking and staying with a man who is more submissive to her, isn't very driven and lets her be in control of the relationship - this will be more complimentary to her. otherwise the two yangs would clash.

 

beyond that, what every individual woman seeks is different. what women in different cultures and women of different age groups seek is different, etc etc. this is too wide a question for me to expand on

 

what do you think makes the essence of a woman?

i don't believe this is something that can be put into words, only something that can be felt internally, if you are woman, or experienced directly by being very close to a woman if you are a man.

 

How do you perceive your own power (over males or otherwise)?

 

i don't perceive myself as having any power over other people or over males. i don't even perceive myself as having power over my husband; this type of power is an illusion and one that can be hurtful and detrimental to one's spiritual and emotional development, in my opinion. the only power i perceive myself as having is power to be and become the best human being possible, to live in the present moment. all power comes from the one and only source, whatever you call it, the tao, god, the universe. everything else is illusion.

 

what do you think that power consists of? ("power" for lack of a better word that is).

 

see my answer above.

 

in a more "dark side of the moon" note, what power DO you feel you have over males?

 

as i said above, i don't feel that i do nor do i want to. if you are referring to the idea that women have power over men because they can attract them with promises of sexual rewards, can make a man weak in the knees just by looking "hot", i could "turn that on" if i wanted to but choose not to. not only because i am married, but because i have my own personal views and beliefs about modesty and respect. be it with a total stranger or with

 

I don't know, just ramble on ladies... but please spare us stuff about "self confidence", because like Ferraris, I wish it was simple as that. or is it?

 

yup, it is. i know men hate hearing that, it just seems all too simple and silly. but any quality or trick you can come up with to pick up women, in my opinion, boils down to self-confidence... combined with having the all-too-common overactive male ego in check at least when it comes to finding an actual partner, and not just someone to fuck once or twice. that's a whole other story. but i guess this is where this whole thread turned into talking about PUA stuff. i have no real interest in that or in trying to tell guys how they can find women. so i will leave it at that for now.

 

 

witch said:

Magical power in women I don't think comes to full maturation until a woman undergoes the brain changes that come with pregnancy. And I am convinced, and I am sure that women on this board will disagree, that to get a full measure of magical power, a woman must become easily even spontaneously vaginally orgasmic and have the energy generated from this very active sexuality travel up to her heart chakra and come out there. Such a woman is on the one hand powerless when it comes to her desire for a man's penis, but that fierce desire in itself ends up giving an intrinsic power over male sexuality.

 

i too believe that women all have access to magical power, magical abilities. for example, i believe that intuition is one of these "powers". it can be expanded on and be amazingly potent, or it can be completely ignored, because our society does not approve or recognize such matters. i think magical abilities are closely and directly linked to a woman's true essence shining through her being. but i believe that for many women they are so out of touch with their true feminine nature to ever grasp this concept or experience it; it is buried far too deep.

 

i disagree that this feminine magical power can only come to its full potential through pregnancy and birthing. i think this is probably the easiest way that it becomes available to many women. i don't think all women who give birth feel this (especially in our society where most women give birth all drugged up, don't feel a thing and have a c-section), and i do think women can connect to this side of themselves without giving birth. it is probably harder though. i have never given birth myself, and have always had a sense that there was a part of me that i would only be able to access through giving birth. i was never able to name it or express it, it is just a knowledge deep inside of me. i will say, though, that through studying different traditions and through various practices over the last year i have been getting glimpses of whatever IT is and i feel far closer to fully experiencing my feminine essence and magical abilities than ever before. i feel it is within my reach, and not dependent on me having a child. i won't know for sure until i do though, i'll keep you posted

 

what you are saying about opening the heart can, in my opinion, entirely be achieved without giving birth as well. i think birthing can instantaneously open it, but there are many practices that can allow one to do this as well. in fact, there are (i believe) several sects of taoist alchemy that had practices that they would only teach to women that had never been pregnant, because certain aspects of their "power" were stronger then. they had never depleted their jing through birthing, which is the most energetically depleting event in a woman's life. in alchemy, jing must be "restored" or collected to be refined into chi, then into shen. without healthy jing, the higher states of consciousness cannot be achieved. therefore birthing could be seen as depleting in these practices. if anyone has anything to expand on this matter, i would love to hear it. my direct experience is limited, not having studied with a master or given birth myself.

 

i think your comment about "being powerless over her desire for a man's penis" is your own experience but is not the norm. i get the sense from many of the things i have read from you (especially your latest thread about kundalini) that your approach and perspective on sex is very male-like. it is not my intention to judge you in any way by saying this, please correct me if i am wrong, that is just my observation.

most women are more driven by connection and emotion than by visual stimulation and overt sexuality. especially when one is on an internal alchemical path, even if one has a high libido and is very sexually active, sex takes on a completely different color and meaning. the desire is not for someone's penis, but it becomes much more about desiring someone else's energy, your connection to their energy, and the bliss that comes from cultivating that energy. when my heart is at its most open (i don't feel that my heart center is completely permanently open yet, i am getting there..) my "desire for a man's penis" is at its lowest in fact. what i desire is far beyond that. not to say that just "wanting to fuck" is wrong or bad. but i feel that your analysis of a woman being spontaneously orgasmic and having an open heart somehow automatically meaning that she is powerless over wanting sex is incorrect.

[witch]

 

i think your comment about "being powerless over her desire for a man's penis" is your own experience but is not the norm. i get the sense from many of the things i have read from you (especially your latest thread about kundalini) that your approach and perspective on sex is very male-like. it is not my intention to judge you in any way by saying this, please correct me if i am wrong, that is just my observation.

most women are more driven by connection and emotion than by visual stimulation and overt sexuality. especially when one is on an internal alchemical path, even if one has a high libido and is very sexually active, sex takes on a completely different color and meaning. the desire is not for someone's penis, but it becomes much more about desiring someone else's energy, your connection to their energy, and the bliss that comes from cultivating that energy. when my heart is at its most open (i don't feel that my heart center is completely permanently open yet, i am getting there..) my "desire for a man's penis" is at its lowest in fact. what i desire is far beyond that. not to say that just "wanting to fuck" is wrong or bad. but i feel that your analysis of a woman being spontaneously orgasmic and having an open heart somehow automatically meaning that she is powerless over wanting sex is incorrect.

 

We can take this thread back, you know. The way I am is very different than most women. I guess that's what I was trying to say. I've totally changed. The way you are is the normal way. And from a taoist point of view you are absolutely correct, and this is a taoist board. Pregnancy IS very depleting, etc. But from a magical point of view, I'm a different sort of creature now. And it's not yang in the slightest, it's a deeply deeply feminine energy. It's just really strong, so that makes men my bitch. Strong energy is strong energy.

 

Also I'm circulating backwards and upside down, so yes, I suppose I'm worse than baseline. Also I send all my energy out through my heart--another taoist no no, energy is for conservation.

[manitou]

I noticed something last night during a sexual encounter with my husband of 27 years. If the female is capable of getting out of her own way (stilling the mind completely, relaxing all muscles from the outside to the innermost self), the kundalini energy is greatly kicked up. I'd never noticed this before. It was like consciously going to an instantaneous 'Be Here Now" mindset which seemed to open the channels of Kundalini energy even more magnificently. For what it's worth.

[immortal_sister]

We can take this thread back, you know. The way I am is very different than most women. I guess that's what I was trying to say. I've totally changed. The way you are is the normal way. And from a taoist point of view you are absolutely correct, and this is a taoist board. Pregnancy IS very depleting, etc. But from a magical point of view, I'm a different sort of creature now. And it's not yang in the slightest, it's a deeply deeply feminine energy. It's just really strong, so that makes men my bitch. Strong energy is strong energy.

 

Also I'm circulating backwards and upside down, so yes, I suppose I'm worse than baseline. Also I send all my energy out through my heart--another taoist no no, energy is for conservation.

 

to be clear, i am not dismissing your experience as lesser or anything like that. every woman's point of view and experience is valid and should be shared.

 

i completely understand that pregnancy changed the magic inside of view. i just wanted to share with others that i personally feel that pregnancy is not necessary for this process, all women, with or without child, have access to this, it is always present, just easier to access at certain times in our life.

 

also, i agree strong energy is strong energy. however, the techniques you use to attain this strong energy are all very, very yang (from reading your other thread, eating a very yang diet, having a male-type sexuality that is very focused on porn and on the orgasm alone, etc etc). this is not to say the energy you build up isn't deeply feminine, but the way you have explained how this makes you feel always seems to have a male slant to it, and i think this is in part due to who you are as a person and your own personal preferences, obviously, but also due to the process that you use, that puts you in a more yang and male-like mindframe. that was my observation/impression, be it correct or wrong. feel free to correct me.

 

I noticed something last night during a sexual encounter with my husband of 27 years. If the female is capable of getting out of her own way (stilling the mind completely, relaxing all muscles from the outside to the innermost self), the kundalini energy is greatly kicked up. I'd never noticed this before. It was like consciously going to an instantaneous 'Be Here Now" mindset which seemed to open the channels of Kundalini energy even more magnificently. For what it's worth.

 

absolutely i have experienced this as well. when you are able to relax everything in your body, only gently guiding the aroused sexual energy upward, there will be a great rush and you will experience a completely different type of orgasm, "beyond the orgasm". this is a much higher form of sexual energy in my experience, much more beneficial to the health and to the spirit. there are different practices one can do before and during orgasm, where you push the energy up the spine with more force, so-to-speak. but if through relaxation you are able to let the warm energy rise by itself, it is absolutely incredible

 

i hope you don't mind me asking, did you experience this during orgasm, or just during the whole exchange? and if it was during orgasm, what type of orgasm was it?

[witch]

Quite simply, my brain is different. Physically different. I am confident of that now, because I accidentally reversed it using the Shakti helmet, and the first day after I did it (the effects gradually wear off over several days) I was back to being a normal woman. And the mindset was so different that the way I have been for the last seven years was absolutely incomprehensible to me. Not only that, I couldn't even understand why a woman would want to be the way I was. And this was my own self, with all my memories intact! I had gone through the actual experiences and I still couldn't comprehend it.

 

The porn and all that are simply to trigger the experience. The experience itself I can't really explain. I know that now. You have to feel it to understand it. There's a blackness, a darkness, a connection to the earth. It's also a very animal feeling. And the outpouring of love is overwhelming, it's as substantial as a piece of furniture and quite fierce.

[immortal_sister]

Quite simply, my brain is different. Physically different. I am confident of that now, because I accidentally reversed it using the Shakti helmet, and the first day after I did it (the effects gradually wear off over several days) I was back to being a normal woman. And the mindset was so different that the way I have been for the last seven years was absolutely incomprehensible to me. Not only that, I couldn't even understand why a woman would want to be the way I was. And this was my own self, with all my memories intact! I had gone through the actual experiences and I still couldn't comprehend it.

 

The porn and all that are simply to trigger the experience. The experience itself I can't really explain. I know that now. You have to feel it to understand it. There's a blackness, a darkness, a connection to the earth. It's also a very animal feeling. And the outpouring of love is overwhelming, it's as substantial as a piece of furniture and quite fierce.

 

i have been really hesitant to post in your kundalini thread because i don't want to say anything that is outside of my personal realm of knowledge and experience, and because i don't want to be come off as mean. but i do want to say this. if your brain is so different than others, you acknowledge this through your own experience of reversing your usual brain function to that which you consider to be the more average female brain waves and such... why would you advise other women to take your path? yes, it is left hand path, but furthermore i still can't get past feeling like everything you are advising women to do is purely "manly" and super yang in nature instead of working with the feminine nature and more natural inclination of women. perhaps that is what differentiates the usual taoist alchemical inner work with left path work such as this? i don't know. part of me feels like i need to write some kind of "warning notice" in your thread, but that is not my place. and i am getting off topic.

 

i did have one question for you though. you seem to usually equate the kundalini awakening with opening the heart. if one has a true kundalini awakening, then i imagine the heart chakra and all other chakras would be wide open. but it seems that what you have done (and are advising women to do with the meat and the porn) is bypassing all chakras and opening the kundalini head on, with no preliminaries, so to speak. i keep thinking that the heart would not by default be open in this situation. what is your thought on this matter? kundalini = open heart?

[witch]

Of course you can post a warning in my thread, by all means. I'm not trying to hide what I am here--my handle here, my avatar, lefthand path in the title.

 

Are you sure about your information on the foods? My main claim to fame is that I consume positively ENORMOUS amounts of fish oil. I thought that fish oil was a yin food? I also thought that good quality oils and fats like butter and other saturate fats are yin foods? I'm not a taoist, I might be wrong about that, but a quick google seems to indicate that I'm right.

 

For men to encourage the yang energy, don't they look at pictures of naked ladies, among other things? So doesn't it make sense for women to look at pictures of naked men to encourage yin?

 

At any rate, you probably don't need to issue a warning. Women for the most part think I'm stark raving bonkers, even if I tone down all the woo woo stuff and only talk about simply increasing libido, which my diet does. When I start talking about snakes and Olympic gold medal gangbang ability I lose the rest of my female audience.

 

Men, on the other hand, generally find it gripping. It's a shame. In a perfect world, men would read Jane Austen, and women would watch lots of porn.

 

Also, to be clear, my brain used to function perfectly normally, I was a typical woman (except for the empathetic ability, which I've always had to a greater or lesser extent). The things I ended up doing changed my brain function, in a sort of rewiring. So that's what I'm recommending women do--change how their brain functions.

 

It goes back to normal if you go off the fish oil and stop all the other stuff, so it is reversible. And it looks like it goes back even if you are doing all the other stuff if you do what I did with the Shakti device, at least temporarily.

[immortal_sister]

Of course you can post a warning in my thread, by all means. I'm not trying to hide what I am here--my handle here, my avatar, lefthand path in the title.

 

Are you sure about your information on the foods? My main claim to fame is that I consume positively ENORMOUS amounts of fish oil. I thought that fish oil was a yin food? I also thought that good quality oils and fats like butter and other saturate fats are yin foods? I'm not a taoist, I might be wrong about that, but a quick google seems to indicate that I'm right.

 

yes, those foods are yin in nature i guess, and i consume a lot of them. but in your thread you told people to eat red meat and drink beer. very yang. that is mostly what i was referring to, not the diet from your book per say.

 

For men to encourage the yang energy, don't they look at pictures of naked ladies, among other things? So doesn't it make sense for women to look at pictures of naked men to encourage yin?

 

on a lower level, some men might do that. the practitioners i know would never do that to arouse yang energy. since women and men are completely different creatures to begin with, i would tend to think that arousing the yang energy would not come from the same place for both, that men have a much more outward focus, while women are more internal. personally, i get absolutely nothing from staring at naked pictures of men or watching big cocks in porn. useless. doesn't arouse a thing.

 

At any rate, you probably don't need to issue a warning. Women for the most part think I'm stark raving bonkers, even if I tone down all the woo woo stuff and only talk about simply increasing libido, which my diet does. When I start talking about snakes and Olympic gold medal gangbang ability I lose the rest of my female audience.p

 

Men, on the other hand, generally find it gripping. It's a shame. In a perfect world, men would read Jane Austen, and women would watch lots of porn.

 

well like i said, it is not my place to issue a warning anyhow, which is why i wanted to discuss this stuff with you "to the side" so to speak, not in your thread.

 

and yes, men love it because they are hornballs haha

 

but i disagree with you about your statement of a "perfect world". there is a reason men and women have those very opposite tendencies, and it is because men and women's sexual energies are very different, and very complimentary. they should not be reversed, and i don't think attempting to have a male-like sexuality is something to strive for. having a high libido and being omniorgasmic, sure! but that's different than being driven to watch porn. either way, porn and romance novels are both pacifiers and i would encourage anyone to stay away from them if they want to achieve higher spiritual bliss.

 

Also, to be clear, my brain used to function perfectly normally, I was a typical woman (except for the empathetic ability, which I've always had to a greater or lesser extent). The things I ended up doing changed my brain function, in a sort of rewiring. So that's what I'm recommending women do--change how their brain functions.

 

It goes back to normal if you go off the fish oil and stop all the other stuff, so it is reversible. And it looks like it goes back even if you are doing all the other stuff if you do what I did with the Shakti device, at least temporarily.

 

ok i get what you are saying. interesting. i read big parts of your book for free online a while ago (sorry ). i realized that most of the diet stuff you recommend i am already doing! i'll have to get all the juicy details though. i am not against having a healthy, increased libido. i have definitely seen an increase in my sexual energy since taking fish oil! good stuff

[JustARandomPanda]

Magical power in women I don't think comes to full maturation until a woman undergoes the brain changes that come with pregnancy.

 

If it takes being pregnant and having kids to come into a woman's full, true power I am doomed. I've never had kids and am already manifesting signs of dropping estrogen levels.

 

But you may be right. So far it appears I am the only female at TB who has not awakened Kundalini. I also don't have orgasms. I'm sure the two are linked.

[immortal_sister]

If it takes being pregnant and having kids to come into a woman's full, true power I am doomed. I've never had kids and am already manifesting signs of dropping estrogen levels.

 

But you may be right. So far it appears I am the only female at TB who has not awakened Kundalini. I also don't have orgasms. I'm sure the two are linked.

 

 

well, i disagree with witch. furthermore, my teacher says that menopause is a kundalini awakening, and can absolutely be experienced as such if you are aware enough to view it in that light, instead of the western medicine view which treats it like a disease and gives women estrogen, even though the lowering estrogen has a very important purpose in the female body. she compares a lot of the symptoms of menopause, such as hot flashes, mood swings, insomnia, to the experience of kundalini awakening. i think this is fascinating. worth giving some thought to for sure...

[witch]

If it takes being pregnant and having kids to come into a woman's full, true power I am doomed. I've never had kids and am already manifesting signs of dropping estrogen levels.

 

But you may be right. So far it appears I am the only female at TB who has not awakened Kundalini. I also don't have orgasms. I'm sure the two are linked.

 

Get a VIBRATOR! Jumpstart the process. I know about this.

[C T]

Generally speaking, alcohol is classified as yang - however, the exception is beer, which is

definitely 'cooling', and therefore its essence is 'Yin'.

 

Reference:

 

http://www.feng-shui-institute.org/yinyang.htm

 

http://www.angelfire.com/id/croon/chinesemedicine.html

[soundhunter]

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[witch]

yes, those foods are yin in nature i guess, and i consume a lot of them. but in your thread you told people to eat red meat and drink beer. very yang. that is mostly what i was referring to, not the diet from your book per say.

 

The red meat is for iron, and for the saturated fat. Fatty red meat. The beer doesn't help longterm with this power, in fact it is against it, but wine and beer are both disinhibiting, and especially for women a lowering of inhibitions at the beginning is helpful.

 

 

on a lower level, some men might do that. the practitioners i know would never do that to arouse yang energy. since women and men are completely different creatures to begin with, i would tend to think that arousing the yang energy would not come from the same place for both, that men have a much more outward focus, while women are more internal. personally, i get absolutely nothing from staring at naked pictures of men or watching big cocks in porn. useless. doesn't arouse a thing.

well like i said, it is not my place to issue a warning anyhow, which is why i wanted to discuss this stuff with you "to the side" so to speak, not in your thread.

 

and yes, men love it because they are hornballs haha

 

 

All women at the start get absolutely nothing from staring at naked pictures of men or watching big cocks in porn. That's why I mentioned in my post it's to open things up. Once this has opened up, then yes, one develops an appreciation. But I wouldn't say I'm "driven" to watch porn. I am prescribing watching porn as homework for the kundalini opening process. It doesn't affect the conscious mind, but will affect the subconscious mind, particularly if done right before bed and while doing PC muscle exercise. This is a technique to force open the root chakra to become a kundalini furnace. It is not meant to be enjoyable, it is meant to be homework. And will probably be somewhat distasteful to most women.

 

 

but i disagree with you about your statement of a "perfect world". there is a reason men and women have those very opposite tendencies, and it is because men and women's sexual energies are very different, and very complimentary. they should not be reversed, and i don't think attempting to have a male-like sexuality is something to strive for. having a high libido and being omniorgasmic, sure! but that's different than being driven to watch porn. either way, porn and romance novels are both pacifiers and i would encourage anyone to stay away from them if they want to achieve higher spiritual bliss.

 

In the modern world, men's and women's sexuality is not complementary. Men generally have much higher drives than women, and men are tremendously frustrated and rejected on a fundamental level. That's why porn is so popular--men have a deepseated need to see women at least pretend to be the way I genuinely am. When one is horny, even obvious pretending can seem genuine. Men "know" their cocks should be worshipped and that their cum is a very valuable and important substance, and then they have to unlearn what they instinctively know to fit in with society and be able to date, etc.

 

And again women watching porn isn't for higher spiritual bliss, this is to jumpstart the process and get the energy rising. To pop your kundalini cherry so to speak!

 

ok i get what you are saying. interesting. i read big parts of your book for free online a while ago (sorry ). i realized that most of the diet stuff you recommend i am already doing! i'll have to get all the juicy details though. i am not against having a healthy, increased libido. i have definitely seen an increase in my sexual energy since taking fish oil! good stuff

 

Oh I don't mind free. Heck, I've posted my entire diet on this website!

 

To be openminded, I was right about the libido thing and fish oil. If you ever feel curious, you might want to try the lefthand path thing I recommend, maybe for six months, if you do go on the diet. That way you can compare both ways of being and see for yourself which you prefer.

[witch]

Wow, you are having that sexual response while you are still breastfeeding! Brace yourself, because it's going to get a LOT stronger once your child is weaned.

 

The attractive young men thing is quite strange. I suppose it's Nature's way of keeping everything in balance, since older men are often attracted to young women, that way everybody has someone! The ridiculous thing is that they get emotionally attached, and then there you are with

 

well, anyhow it gets complicated. Handle young men carefully! You said you were married so it's not an issue for you, but any other women going through this I'd say no more than three times for sex and then kick them to the curb.

[immortal_sister]

soundhunter, wonderful post, thank you for sharing. i am in my late 20s, so i know i haven't reached my peak yet, i think that is what you are experiencing, and is probably part of the reason that witch has been able to achieve what she has as well. i think various stages of a woman's life will have different strengths and magical powers. i am trying to embrace and utilize what i am today to its maximum potential.

 

its so beautiful hearing about how deeply transformational and spiritual pregnancy, birth and breastfeeding is. i really look forward to experiencing that one day.

 

so yeah, this so called fierce sexual power, perhaps i have no idea about any of it since i am still young and haven't reached my peak. i only know what is true to me now. i can't wait to get there though

 

 

witch, as for your proposition, my husband says i should try it of course, haha! like i said, i have been started on some of the supplements for the last month. you might have to break down the diet for me again; i just bought tons of books in the last few months and need to read the books i have before buying more

i understand what you are saying about watching porn awakening your root chakra, but i have no interest whatsoever in watching porn, even for that purpose. i am in a committed relationship and am wondering if there is something else i can do that would equally awaken this sensation.

[witch]

http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=2552&st=20

 

But if you start asking me questions that are already in the book I will get vexed! Book answers all questions, particularly about the fish oil brands, doses, etc., and can be fully read in an afternoon, costs less than ten bucks.

[witch]

As for the porn, again only do this after you've been on the full dose of fish oil for a few months and have been exercising your PC muscles with the Gyneflex every other day, or it will backfire. If your husband is up for it, while you are exercising your PC muscles he lies down apart from you so you get a good view, and slowly and erotically masturbates. It would be good if all you can see is his cock, but not required. He doesn't have to ejaculate, if he's saving it up for sex or taoist retention or whatnot, although if he does ejaculate that's good. Try not to have sex during these sessions--the goal is to increase your longing for cock, so if you know you're getting yours it won't work as well. Although if you like, when you're done with the PC muscle exercises you can masturbate too. Just stay apart.

 

Also, some advice from an old woman to a young woman--if at all possible you can open up your boundaries to permit the concept of porn being enjoyed in a committed relationship, even helping a committed relationship--it might make things easier in the long run, over the long haul.

[immortal_sister]

As for the porn, again only do this after you've been on the full dose of fish oil for a few months and have been exercising your PC muscles with the Gyneflex every other day, or it will backfire. If your husband is up for it, while you are exercising your PC muscles he lies down apart from you so you get a good view, and slowly and erotically masturbates. It would be good if all you can see is his cock, but not required. He doesn't have to ejaculate, if he's saving it up for sex or taoist retention or whatnot, although if he does ejaculate that's good. Try not to have sex during these sessions--the goal is to increase your longing for cock, so if you know you're getting yours it won't work as well. Although if you like, when you're done with the PC muscle exercises you can masturbate too. Just stay apart.

 

Also, some advice from an old woman to a young woman--if at all possible you can open up your boundaries to permit the concept of porn being enjoyed in a committed relationship, even helping a committed relationship--it might make things easier in the long run, over the long haul.

 

i will definitely consider purchasing the book in the future. i am also considering purchasing a gyneflex. although i already exercise those muscles with jade eggs, that device would probably a whole different story.

 

thank you for the link to that thread. well, although i do take fish oil (i take cod liver oil right now), i haden't realized the amounts of EPA and DHA you recommend are so much higher than what i am currently getting. i still feel i am getting benefits from the dose i am at right now. i also already take calcium/magnesium.

i am not willing to pump myself full of really high amounts of supplements much beyond what i am already taking. so i will have to pass on this experiment for now. i have been working hard at increasing my health naturally through gentle supplements, acupuncture and inner work, and this kind of "extreme diet" simply isn't for me right now.

 

also, about the porn. it isn't that it is outside the boundaries of our relationship, we have watched some together before and it is very exciting. but neither of us is a huge fan of porn, ethically or otherwise. i simply have no interest in including that in my/our life, i don't believe it to be beneficial in the long run and i view it as a crutch when trying to enhance one's sexual abilities when one's goal is spiritual dual cultivation. that's just my personal belief.

Edited December 11, 2009 by immortal_sister

[witch]

The calcium/magnesium/zinc I simply recommend the RDA. Make sure you get at least 100% of the RDA of zinc--that's the most important mineral for libido.

 

The fish oil supplements, although very high, actually replicate the nutrients our bodies would get on a hunter-gatherer diet, where most of our calories came from seafood, wild game and insects, all high in omega-3 fatty acids. The problem with the modern diet is that it is full of grains (which we did not evolve eating) and the meat that we eat, aside from fish, is raised eating grains rather than grass and free-range. This makes the meat very low in omega-3 fatty acids and high in omega-6 fatty acids. Having a baby takes a tremendous amount of omega-3 fatty acids, so a woman's libido drops on the modern diet, thinking there is a famine.

 

The amount of omega-3 fatty acids I recommend for a 130-pound woman are the amount one would get eating a salmon steak for lunch and dinner every day, which women in fishing villages have done for millennia with no ill effects. I can't recommend women do that now, however, because the oceans are so polluted that the mercury would make you sick. The mercury is removed from fish oil so it is safer than eating fish.

 

So if you want to be on my diet without taking supplements, it can be done if you only buy free-range meat and poultry and use free-range butter and eggs in cooking and eat some non-farm-raised fatty fish twice a week. Also better from a karmic point of view, but of course extremely expensive.