Seth Ananda Posted December 8, 2009 Hey Bums, I am curious about the position That Johny Chang is sitting in in the photo of Him meditating in the forest. There is also a pic of Wang Liping in the same position. Its the one in full Lotus, with the palms facing up, forearms at the solar plexus level, fingers nearly touching in front of solar plexus... You know the one, Looks way cool... Does anyone know any details on the position? I have been using it, and all I can say is Man! what I experience so far is that the Lotus creates the strong upward pull of earth energy, while the arm hand position is a really potent recieving gesture for Heavenly chi... when I focus on my LDT it light up so fast its crazy, and my MCO prety much just takes care of it self. Hows it sound? I have read nothing on this posture and would love to hear anything about it. Am I in danger of spontaneously combusting if I dont learn it from a teacher? I do not know how to post the photos, or I would have. Sorry Feel free to anyone... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yuen Biao Posted December 8, 2009 Interesting post although I'm unsure of the posture (pose). Can you share a link online perhaps? Namaste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r.w.smith Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) Hey Bums, I am curious about the position That Johny Chang is sitting in in the photo of Him meditating in the forest. There is also a pic of Wang Liping in the same position. Its the one in full Lotus, with the palms facing up, forearms at the solar plexus level, fingers nearly touching in front of solar plexus... You know the one, Looks way cool... Does anyone know any details on the position? I have been using it, and all I can say is Man! what I experience so far is that the Lotus creates the strong upward pull of earth energy, while the arm hand position is a really potent recieving gesture for Heavenly chi... when I focus on my LDT it light up so fast its crazy, and my MCO prety much just takes care of it self. Hows it sound? I have read nothing on this posture and would love to hear anything about it. Am I in danger of spontaneously combusting if I dont learn it from a teacher? I do not know how to post the photos, or I would have. Sorry Feel free to anyone... I think i remember that photo Edited December 8, 2009 by r.w.smith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
松永道 Posted December 8, 2009 This picture is part of a movement, it is not a static posture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dainin Posted December 8, 2009 Just stay out of McDonald's...please! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) I've attached a file of the picture of "John Chang" doing it. Edited December 8, 2009 by Scotty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baguakid Posted December 8, 2009 John Chang does not look to be in a full lotus in that pic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
33865_1494798762 Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) Looks like "pranayama" to me. There are some different "lockers" one uses along the way. Controling chi/mind flow in certain directions. Edited December 8, 2009 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted December 8, 2009 full lotus has been doing an excellent job making my back better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeiChuan Posted December 8, 2009 Theres plenty of things in mo pai meditation that if you knew you would not want to do, being that you dont have the other parts. Especially the how to get outta've it. Its also in magus of java.. I'd rather just take the picture as reference, till you learn more about the arm position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiveelementtao Posted December 8, 2009 One of my students briefly trained in Mo Pai with Kosta and ended up going to the doctor complaining of pain in the stomach. (because of packing Chi in the LDT) I don't reccommend trying any high level energy work from a book or picture but especially in the case of Mo Pai. If done incorrectly you could be causing yourself SERIOUS injury. If someone wants to train in Mo Pai, I suggest finding a qualified teacher and training with them in person for a good long while. These disciplines were never meant to be learned in a weekend or from books and pictures... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) Seth I just finished of exactly what you're describing. I had fasted for the morning while out with my dad in the new snow (we got a storm kicking in here in Minnesota). Got back around 12:30 -- went into full-lotus with the hands up over the lower tan tien. The LDT lit up with tremendous heat and then I kept up the full-lotus until my feet were nice and hot, after the rest of my body was filled with heat. Seth -- I call this the "Yan Xin Secret" -- and I have an article describing how it works -- why it's so effective. Chunyi Lin confirms what you said -- that the MCO will circulate on it's own while doing this position. He started out with Yan Xin and then later trained with Yan Xin's teacher!! http://www.mind-energy.net/archives/246-Th...Xin-Secret.html Hey Bums, I am curious about the position That Johny Chang is sitting in in the photo of Him meditating in the forest. There is also a pic of Wang Liping in the same position. Its the one in full Lotus, with the palms facing up, forearms at the solar plexus level, fingers nearly touching in front of solar plexus... You know the one, Looks way cool... Does anyone know any details on the position? I have been using it, and all I can say is Man! what I experience so far is that the Lotus creates the strong upward pull of earth energy, while the arm hand position is a really potent recieving gesture for Heavenly chi... when I focus on my LDT it light up so fast its crazy, and my MCO prety much just takes care of it self. Hows it sound? I have read nothing on this posture and would love to hear anything about it. Am I in danger of spontaneously combusting if I dont learn it from a teacher? I do not know how to post the photos, or I would have. Sorry Feel free to anyone... Edited December 8, 2009 by drewhempel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth Ananda Posted December 8, 2009 Thanks everyone, lol at McDonalds, So Lipings is part of a movement, and Chang may not be In Full Lotus... Lol at Me Do not worry about Mo Pai as I am in know way trying to Be Mo Pai, I just tried that position as it looked Interesting, and Wow! - It feels great! Its a potent position... Have Fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spirit Ape Posted December 8, 2009 (edited) WLP is part of a movement fire and water, chang is also static and part or transition of a movement if it was part of something like Yi Jin Jing for an example. Changs opens up the chest and heart energy center whilst looking the back points. But these postures are found in most nei gung systems, kinda like a foundation for it in many ways if not similar in movements. I know my systems have these in it!!! Hope this helps... Edited December 8, 2009 by Spirit Ape Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth Ananda Posted December 8, 2009 WLP is part of a movement fire and water, chang is also static and part or transition of a movement if it was part of something like Yi Jin Jing for an example. Changs opens up the chest and heart energy center whilst looking the back points. But these postures are found in most nei gung systems, kinda like a foundation for it in many ways if not similar in movements. I know my systems have these in it!!! Hope this helps... Awesome, I will be there Late Feb... Ill pm you sometime in Jan when I can tell you something solid... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder_Gooch Posted December 9, 2009 I speculate this form is used during meditation to fill the middle dan tein with energy before opening it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted December 9, 2009 It's part of a wuxing-based routine that is part of lingbao bifa that is part of what I was told not to tell ...This is not water-fire but a snapshot of a water-wood-fire-earth-metal sequence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder_Gooch Posted December 9, 2009 It's part of a wuxing-based routine that is part of lingbao bifa that is part of what I was told not to tell ...This is not water-fire but a snapshot of a water-wood-fire-earth-metal sequence. Ah yes I remember them discussing that I need to go over my notes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spirit Ape Posted December 9, 2009 I wasnt refering to WLP meditation sequence myself as I dont know his Qi Kung but the fire water comes from my sequence that is my comment wasnt saying his sequence was fire and water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted December 9, 2009 I wasnt refering to WLP meditation sequence myself as I dont know his Qi Kung but the fire water comes from my sequence that is my comment wasnt saying his sequence was fire and water. ok, sorry I misunderstood Ah yes I remember them discussing that I need to go over my notes and send some good vibes my way please 'cause I left mine across the continent and in a house under renovation at that... no wait, there's a maoshan mudra Max teaches to retrieve lost objects... gotta try that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kathyli Posted January 11, 2010 Dear Bums, This picture of Master Wang's full lotus with arms (gestures) and hands (mudra) movements position is originally uploaded to our non-profit Dao-De website. It is a static picture of a Daoist practicing named "外 (Wai=external)导(Dao=guide)内(Nei=internal)行 （Xing=moving）" . "外导内行" should integrate the external and internal practicing together, of course the full Lotus helps to generate internal power. The following information from wikipedia Wang explained the traditional Daoists training techniques to modern people by using contemporary languages. Master Wang publicly teaches people parts of <Ling Bao Bi Fa> which is a book about internal alchemy arts written by Zhongli Quan in Han Dynasty. The art of Master Wang's teaching were called "Internal alchemy of Ling Bao Intelligence Enlightenment". Another book named "Xing-Da-Dao (Entering Dragongate)" , the authors of which book claim that this book summed up Mr. Wang Liping's public teaching in his early years. The book "Da-Dao-Xing (Opening Dragongate)" has been translated into English, Russian and many other words. The Chinese and English version of book "Da-Dao-Xing (Opening Dragongate)" are available for download and online reading in a Not-for-Profit Dao-De Website. Part of the primary cultivation method of "Internal alchemy of Ling Bao Intelligence Enlightenment" are available at 老子学院 Laozi Academy -- a 501 © (3) non-profit charitable educational institution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niko (wind) hatzakis Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) This is a spoofed ID and not the real Nik Hatzakis This member has been banned -Mod Squad- Why wont anybody translate the techniques & teachings into english ? There is so much information available in chinese on the net about master wang,But nobody wants to share in english,Or should i say to westerners ? Kathy, being a student of master wangs surely you could offer something more then a wikipedia link ? Was that a joke ? Edited February 23, 2010 by Mal False ID Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
