Ladies Only--Witch's lefthand path for kundalini

[witch]

I don't want to evolve.

 

TaoMeow, I have not had an orgasm like you describe. I've just had the regular kind and my chakra kind.

[Taomeow]

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Edited December 28, 2009 by Taomeow

[Trunk]

yes...both sexes...definately..

Thx.

[Taomeow]

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Edited December 28, 2009 by Taomeow

[de_paradise]

To: Drew:

RE: information gathering for O at D's

 

I think you could carry a clip board around, with a pre-prepared questionaire to do with "energy" fluctuations of people, chakras, ley lines, full moons, etc. But the real motive of the questions is to know if she felt recently strong energy, bliss or orgasmic feelings.

 

With this you could have a easier non-intrusive or embarrassing way to get some "data".

 

Everyone here would be interested in your results I'm sure.

[Tethys]

I should have mentioned that I did buy your book right when it came out and I preach the gospel to as many of my female friends/relatives/total strangers as possible!

 

I am taking 1 tablespoon of Carlson's a day, which is 2400 mg of EPA and 1500 mg of DHA. I'm dialing down the caffeine and I'm already a carnivore who regards sugar with indifference. I weigh 137 pounds.

 

I'm all for orgasmic bliss, but I'm noticing a disconcerting side effect: this diet zaps all my ambition! I don't feel **driven** to do much of anything, including my work. I don't feel creative or writerly, I just want to lounge around feeling sensual and having lots of orgasms.

 

Since you seem amenable to Jungian terms (I have his amazing autobiography by my bedside), I feel like it puts my animus into a drugged state. No masculine drive-to-conquer!

[witch]

Perfect! Thank you for buying my book! Yes, it does it have that effect. But you have control over it, you can always dial it back if it gets too much. Please keep me posted on your progress. If you want to have the vaginal orgasmic ability, you really do need to get the Gyneflex. Kegels are pretty useless.

 

TaoMeow, I'm wishing I had seen all three of your posts instead of the first one. I haven't had a suitable partner to give me that sort of orgasm, nobody with higher energy. It sounds a bit like this:

 

http://www.mumyouan.com/i/ae-8a.html

[Taomeow]

TaoMeow, I'm wishing I had seen all three of your posts instead of the first one. I haven't had a suitable partner to give me that sort of orgasm, nobody with higher energy. It sounds a bit like this:

 

http://www.mumyouan.com/i/ae-8a.html

Sorry, had to self-correct -- I went a bit against my own rules with that posting and it was bothering me, what with the upcoming New Year's resolutions and such.

 

What the link you posted describes is, far as I can tell, too complicated and orchestrated. I'm a simple cat. Taoist bedchamber arts are also simple -- all BS aside -- and follow the fundamentals of taoist hygiene. E.g.:

 

you get the most out of sex with a wuxing-compatible partner (and it means knowing your chart and your auspicious and inauspicious phases of qi and the partner's phases accordingly, and not falling for someone who takes from you on the level of qi regardless of his intentions, nor for someone who you take from more than he can give without being depleted. For instance, someone who falls for Fire every time may be of the Wood phase with no Water in the chart, it's easy and even inevitable -- but it is very unhealthy, and the best whole-body experience will not happen with such a partner in a million years. But come a partner who has plenty of Water in the chart but misses Wood, it will be seventh heaven naturally and spontaneously, with no "work" done. Balancing two destinies in dual cultivation is what dual cultivation is all about -- without having a partner whose chart and yours mutually balance each other it is just so much harder, or in some cases -- as in Wood missing Water and attempting dual cultivation with a Fire partner also missing Water -- outright impossible. The single best bedchamber trick is to find a partner whose phases of qi are balanced by yours while balancing yours. This is a matter of either luck -- which was the case in the case I described -- or meticulous Chinese-astrological screening, which unfortunately is hard to pull off). So this answers your "high energy partner" hypothesis with a yes and a no. Not just high energy, the energy of the right kind of qi -- and that's "right kind for you," not some generic kind.

 

Once that's accomplished, you then follow real (not "highly spiritual" but highly healthy) guidelines of the bedchamber arts of taoism, and they are wonderful in that they don't take away from the spontaneity of the process --

I think I posted some of that at some point in the past, maybe I'll find it.

Edited December 28, 2009 by Taomeow

[Tethys]

Damn, and I thought it was hard enough just finding a guy who could carry on a conversation! I've often thought about starting a Five Element dating service. I'm always attracted to Fire men even though I know they're baaaaad news. But . . . so . . . pretty . . .

 

Witch, I have read so much of your stuff online that I feel like I already know you, and thus I left out that I do indeed already have the two highest-resistance Gyneflexes. I've never been able to stick to a gym routine too well, these included--- I get so turned on after about two minutes of flexing that I abandon all discipline and just use it like a dildo to have a combination orgasm (clitoral plus vaginal stimulation but I suspect that kind are actually just clitoral since I can't have vaginal alone). But not tonight! I am planning to actually do 20 minutes.

 

I finally figured out from reading stuff in your book and online that I shouldn't expect vaginal orgasms to feel identical to clitoral ones (big yang explosion centered in one place). I think I'm a little scared of this kundalini business.

 

I've got a red and gold object in my room that I hope has your name on it.

[Taomeow]

Damn, and I thought it was hard enough just finding a guy who could carry on a conversation! I've often thought about starting a Five Element dating service.

 

Really? I was even discussing it with someone tao- and business-savvy at one point, but he pointed out quickly that the dating service of this kind won't draw in too many clients and will go bust... However, I am sure that it would be the single best-working dating service in existence (that's how the Chinese married for thousands of years -- always consulting a Bazi fortune teller beforehand -- and look at how many billion Chinese the practice has generated by now! )

[witch]

I do the same thing with Western astrology, check the synastry. Makes perfect sense!

 

Tethys, thank you so much for the feedback! I'm so pleased for you. The Gyneflex should feel arousing. That's exactly the progress you should be making, just if you can keep doing it hands free and try to get off on the flexing itself, if that makes any sense. The flexing of those muscles is what causes the orgasm, when you get advanced enough.

 

I should warn you about one place you will cross if you keep going down this path. All of a sudden you will understand men. And then you will think back on your life, how the men acted and you'll understand why. And then you'll want to kill them. But that passes. Then you have to decide whether you want to stay in the dark or go back to the light. Even so, once you've experienced that you can't unlearn it.

[voidisyinyang]

Witch -- maybe you're just spreading the East Coast dopamine addiction culture to females throughout the U.S. You GO GIRL! haha. My brother-in-law is here from Boston so we've been enjoying that Midwest -- East Coast differential.

 

Now then as an official spokesman for the "men" -- here's Taoist sex Dr. Lin with some fascinating dopamine-testosterone-serotonin propaganda:

 

http://www.herballove.com/article.asp?art=127

 

Sure it's geared to men but I think there's some overlap -- I mean speaking as a master of the secret male cultivation of the internal female vagus nerve climax.

 

And yes Witch I've gone 3 months eating heavy meat -- eggs -- alcohol salt sugar and various other dopamine testosterone sources (lots of fish oysters, etc.) and amazingly I've BURNED OFF all my sex fluids through my third eye.

 

Shooting that orgasmic laser chi energy into the females in my vicinity -- (which means a quarter-mile radius or where-ever I focus the rainbow vortex of reality).

 

So is dopamine the answer? Can we say Crimes of Passion? There's TONS of dopamine violence studies. C'mon Witch!! Please! Sure I mean females castrating males is liberating on some sick level. haha.

 

Give Chunyi Lin a call or Jim Nance! You'll get the over-ride of the hormones and the direct astral laser-holographic shakti-shen truth!! http://springforestqigong.com

 

Still in the mean-time more power to your Witch as us females need to stick together against the Man. haha.

 

Oh and I am lesbian btw.

 

 

 

I do the same thing with Western astrology, check the synastry. Makes perfect sense!

 

Tethys, thank you so much for the feedback! I'm so pleased for you. The Gyneflex should feel arousing. That's exactly the progress you should be making, just if you can keep doing it hands free and try to get off on the flexing itself, if that makes any sense. The flexing of those muscles is what causes the orgasm, when you get advanced enough.

 

I should warn you about one place you will cross if you keep going down this path. All of a sudden you will understand men. And then you will think back on your life, how the men acted and you'll understand why. And then you'll want to kill them. But that passes. Then you have to decide whether you want to stay in the dark or go back to the light. Even so, once you've experienced that you can't unlearn it.

[witch]

holy fuck

 

Oh man, I knew I shouldn't have tried that on you--I wasn't trying to castrate you by the way. But you already know that. I'm the opposite of that anyhow, men get too much testosterone when they're around me. So anyhow, we're connected.

 

So you crossdress then.

 

That Dr. Lin is a huge quack. Isn't his doctorate in civil engineering or some such?

 

Dopamine is involved with passion, good and bad. On its own it does not cause violence.

[voidisyinyang]

Witch read the links from the googled dopamine and violence -- it's an addiction:

 

http://www.google.com/search?q=dopamine+vi...hs=j4n&sa=2

 

 

holy fuck

 

Oh man, I knew I shouldn't have tried that on you--I wasn't trying to castrate you by the way. But you already know that. I'm the opposite of that anyhow, men get too much testosterone when they're around me. So anyhow, we're connected.

 

So you crossdress then.

 

That Dr. Lin is a huge quack. Isn't his doctorate in civil engineering or some such?

 

Dopamine is involved with passion, good and bad. On its own it does not cause violence.

[witch]

God! No, you've got it backwards. Dopamine by its very nature is the neurotransmitter of addiction. It's the neurotransmitter our body uses to reward us for good choices (at least from the body's point of view). So yes, violence can get involved with that, but so can meditation.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11958969

 

Brain Res Cogn Brain Res. 2002 Apr;13(2):255-9.

Increased dopamine tone during meditation-induced change of consciousness.

 

Kjaer TW, Bertelsen C, Piccini P, Brooks D, Alving J, Lou HC.

 

John F. Kennedy Institute, Gl. Landevej 7, 2600, Glostrup, Denmark. [email protected]

 

The dopamine itself is neutral. It's the neurotransmitter of passion.

[Tethys]

Update:

 

Whoa. 20 minutes of no-hands flexing with Device #5 (out of the 6 strengths) was fascinating. No vaginal orgasm, but I almost feel like the ghost of one made an appearance: I'm feeling the beginning of an upward surging energy which gets a little "higher" whenever I clench. Since it's weight-lifting I'll do it every other day.

 

Interesting synchronicity: my bed is in my Love and Relationships corner feng-shui-wise, and I lit some candles in that corner, and right after my little workout session the guy I've been randomly fooling around with suddenly appeared online with a crazy future idea for sex in public . . . and then I felt so high from fish oil dopamine that I called up a guy I've been crushing on for a year and asked him out for a drink tomorrow and he responded really enthusiastically.

 

Fish oil makes me feel invincible and confident. Still not doing my grad school papers but I don't care!

 

I wonder if I should make my own personal practice journal on the other forum instead of annoying people here with my babble . . .

[voidisyinyang]

Edited December 29, 2009 by drewhempel

[markern]

Damn, and I thought it was hard enough just finding a guy who could carry on a conversation! I've often thought about starting a Five Element dating service. I'm always attracted to Fire men even though I know they're baaaaad news. But . . . so . . . pretty . . .

 

Witch, I have read so much of your stuff online that I feel like I already know you, and thus I left out that I do indeed already have the two highest-resistance Gyneflexes. I've never been able to stick to a gym routine too well, these included--- I get so turned on after about two minutes of flexing that I abandon all discipline and just use it like a dildo to have a combination orgasm (clitoral plus vaginal stimulation but I suspect that kind are actually just clitoral since I can't have vaginal alone). But not tonight! I am planning to actually do 20 minutes.

 

I finally figured out from reading stuff in your book and online that I shouldn't expect vaginal orgasms to feel identical to clitoral ones (big yang explosion centered in one place). I think I'm a little scared of this kundalini business.

 

I've got a red and gold object in my room that I hope has your name on it.

 

I am a fire man. Why are we trouble?

[witch]

Update:

 

Whoa. 20 minutes of no-hands flexing with Device #5 (out of the 6 strengths) was fascinating. No vaginal orgasm, but I almost feel like the ghost of one made an appearance: I'm feeling the beginning of an upward surging energy which gets a little "higher" whenever I clench. Since it's weight-lifting I'll do it every other day.

 

Interesting synchronicity: my bed is in my Love and Relationships corner feng-shui-wise, and I lit some candles in that corner, and right after my little workout session the guy I've been randomly fooling around with suddenly appeared online with a crazy future idea for sex in public . . . and then I felt so high from fish oil dopamine that I called up a guy I've been crushing on for a year and asked him out for a drink tomorrow and he responded really enthusiastically.

 

Fish oil makes me feel invincible and confident. Still not doing my grad school papers but I don't care!

 

I wonder if I should make my own personal practice journal on the other forum instead of annoying people here with my babble . . .

 

Please keep posting in this thread. You are on topic. As compared to others!

 

The ability starts off with, as you say, a ghost of the real thing. Keep on keeping on.

 

Drew, dopamine is involved with passionate behavior. That can involve violence, but the violence is more due to high dopamine low serotonin than high dopamine alone, from what I've read. We are all dopamine-addicted, it is the human state. If a person has low dopamine, they will be drawn towards drugs or activities that raise their dopamine. That's why fish oil is used to help with cocaine addiction and alcoholism, for example.

[ShaktiMama]

Please keep posting in this thread. You are on topic. As compared to others!

 

The ability starts off with, as you say, a ghost of the real thing. Keep on keeping on.

 

Drew, dopamine is involved with passionate behavior. That can involve violence, but the violence is more due to high dopamine low serotonin than high dopamine alone, from what I've read. We are all dopamine-addicted, it is the human state. If a person has low dopamine, they will be drawn towards drugs or activities that raise their dopamine. That's why fish oil is used to help with cocaine addiction and alcoholism, for example.

 

if dopamine caused violent behavior by itself we wouldn't be using it as routine therapy in ICUs for raising very low blood pressure. I have given dopamine by IV infusion over a long period of time, 2-4 days, and I can say definately it does not cause violence. we are talking over 4mcg/kg/min...that's a lot of such a potent vasoactive drug to be pumping into people. other factors cause ICU psychosis but it will show up without any dopamine infusions.

[markern]

Please keep posting in this thread. You are on topic. As compared to others!

 

The ability starts off with, as you say, a ghost of the real thing. Keep on keeping on.

 

Drew, dopamine is involved with passionate behavior. That can involve violence, but the violence is more due to high dopamine low serotonin than high dopamine alone, from what I've read. We are all dopamine-addicted, it is the human state. If a person has low dopamine, they will be drawn towards drugs or activities that raise their dopamine. That's why fish oil is used to help with cocaine addiction and alcoholism, for example.

 

 

What do you think of the theories of the cupids posined arrow people? They seem to be very anti dopamine and sort of anti passion as well.

[voidisyinyang]

Witch this article explains there are two main systems of dopamine in the brain -- one unconscious (the dopamine addiction) and the other the conscious frontal cortex regulation of the dopamine addiction. If there is not a clear frontal cortex regulation the people are prone to dopamine addiction (which again is based on motor function movement -- like sports, warfare, sex, gambling).

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/19/health/1...mp;pagewanted=1

 

So I agree that dopamine addiction is a big problem - in fact some argue dopamine addiction is the DEFINING problem of civilization.

 

Please keep posting in this thread. You are on topic. As compared to others!

 

The ability starts off with, as you say, a ghost of the real thing. Keep on keeping on.

 

Drew, dopamine is involved with passionate behavior. That can involve violence, but the violence is more due to high dopamine low serotonin than high dopamine alone, from what I've read. We are all dopamine-addicted, it is the human state. If a person has low dopamine, they will be drawn towards drugs or activities that raise their dopamine. That's why fish oil is used to help with cocaine addiction and alcoholism, for example.

[markern]

Well I'm going to keep on trucking with Witch's diet. However, after reading some of Shaktimama's explanations in other threads I now realize I have a much larger hurdle to jump when it comes to increasing jing than I previously thought.

 

Example: My memory - especially short term - is so poor it actively interferes with my ability to follow lectures by profs at school. By the time the prof finishes the sentence I've forgotten what he said at the beginning of the sentence. The memory problem is so bad I am taking some semesters off. It happens out of school too of course but with typing on the web one doesn't run into that problem.

 

2nd Example: Excessive greying, constant tiredness and coldness. I have the hair color of someone in their 50's. My BF says it always shocks him to see someone my age with such heavy grey. Oh...and I grow goatee stubble daily (which is also grey and white). I carry tweezers and razor to keep it in check.

 

Those are just a few examples.

 

However...I think Witch's diet can help a lot of the above problems out - especially if depleted jing in kidneys is a source of poor memory. Witch's diet - as I understand it - creates tons of jing on overdrive. If Shaktimama is right I think my chi is messed up in most of my organs and Witch's diet can help reverse it. Even if I never acquire the ability to have orgasms (although I confess I'm hoping someday it'll happen) if the other problems are corrected I'll be exceedingly happy. There is a lot to be optimistic about for 2010.

 

I did not know you were in school! What are you taking?

 

I am also having memory problmes these days despite having had a really great one before. There are probably multiple reasons. Burnout being an important one, excessive dampness in the head and ungroundedness another. My kidneys are really weak and spleen and liver unbalanced. It has gotten quite alot better recently, in large part because of getting rested and stressing myself less. I read somwhere that rest and relaxation is the most important thing for Jing restoration.

 

I have also been practicing a simple technique to boost the kidneys and I learnt this from a medical qigong doctor to improve memory. You take on foot and put it above the other knee/leg and hold it with the opposite hand so that your hand holds the inside of the leg right above your ankle. This should make your palm chakra be directly opposite spleen 6. Spleen 6 connects to the spleen, liver and kidneys so all these get a slight boost from this but that is a minute effect to the next step. You now slap the sole of your foot with the other hand so that your palm chakra more or less hit right at kidney one/bubley springs. This boosts this point a lot and when I do it I get energy boosting up from this point directly to my kidneys. I often do 400 twice a day. A normal person is advised to do no more than 500 a day in total (I think 100-300 would be plenty) but a person with a particular problem can do up untill 800 in total during a day. The kidneys get a massive increase in energy from this so I highly recommend it to anyone with weak kidneys.

 

There are a bunch of qigong forms that aim directly at working with and boosting the kidneys. Some of these should be simple enough to be learnt from dvd or books and there should be something on youtube. In your case it sounds like direct kidney work or direct jing work could be the right thing to do.

 

Image streaming is also a technique that can help memory a lot. Tratak as well. Although your problem seems more energetic.

 

You could also maybe get good help from taking the MaxGXL suplement Ya MU recomends highly. I want to get it myself: http://www.qigongamerica.com/index_Page1906.htm

Edited December 29, 2009 by markern

[ShaktiMama]

Yes...the diet will help you over all and not just with regaining or gaining orgasms. What you are describing is a blood and chi deficient condition which is common to western civilization. Get thee to a good acupuncturist/herbalist. Also if you can...have some basic blood chemistry work drawn including vitamin d and iron. You need to eat meat!

 

Bone broth is stellar help for blood and chi deficiency. Cheap to make and good for you. It also heats my energy right up and makes me horny so I only use it in the winter or when I am ill or when I was deficient.

http://www.westonaprice.org/Broth-is-Beautiful.html

 

Keep doing the KAP exercises also. Direct chi flow to your kidneys. Winter is the time of kidney energy so this is a good time to start.

 

Just know that kundalini or shakti is not affected by health. It never goes away no matter how sick you get. I have been extemely ill physically and still be able give shaktipat. So you can keep up with your KAP practices.

 

Good luck and keep us informed.

Blessings...

 

 

I did not know you were in school! What are you taking?

 

I am also having memory problmes these days despite having had a really great one before. There are probably multiple reasons. Burnout being an important one, excessive dampness in the head and ungroundedness another. My kidneys are really weak and spleen and liver unbalanced. It has gotten quite alot better recently, in large part because of getting rested and stressing myself less. I read somwhere that rest and relaxation is the most important thing for Jing restoration.

 

I have also been practicing a simple technique to boost the kidneys and I learnt this from a medical qigong doctor to improve memory. You take on foot and put it above the other knee/leg and hold it with the opposite hand so that your hand holds the inside of the leg right above your ankle. This should make your palm chakra be directly opposite spleen 6. Spleen 6 connects to the spleen, liver and kidneys so all these get a slight boost from this but that is a minute effect to the next step. You now slap the sole of your foot with the other hand so that your palm chakra more or less hit right at kidney one/bubley springs. This boosts this point a lot and when I do it I get energy boosting up from this point directly to my kidneys. I often do 400 twice a day. A normal person is advised to do no more than 500 a day in total (I think 100-300 would be plenty) but a person with a particular problem can do up untill 800 in total during a day. The kidneys get a massive increase in energy from this so I highly recommend it to anyone with weak kidneys.

 

There are a bunch of qigong forms that aim directly at working with and boosting the kidneys. Some of these should be simple enough to be learnt from dvd or books and there should be something on youtube. In your case it sounds like direct kidney work or direct jing work could be the right thing to do.

 

Image streaming is also a technique that can help memory a lot. Tratak as well. Although your problem seems more energetic.

 

that is an excellent exercise. i would also rub my hands together until they get hot and then place them over my kidneys and rub....feels so good.

 

also wearing the colors dark blue and black are good for the kidneys...

[markern]

that is an excellent exercise. i would also rub my hands together until they get hot and then place them over my kidneys and rub....feels so good.

 

also wearing the colors dark blue and black are good for the kidneys...

 

I used to do that exercise but have forgotten it and will now resume it. It does feel wonderfull and it makes me instantly more confident and seems to boost my willpower or something related. Is it good for the kidneys in general to be warm?