Avatar (the movie)

[fiveelementtao]

Two Thumbs Up!!!

I saw the movie and really enjoyed it. More than I expected I would.

As I was sitting in the packed theatre with my wife who was gushing about the movie, waiting for the theatre to empty and having a personal kumbaya moment, a 16 or 17 year old guy behind me starts in and reminded me of the environment of where I live... Here is the conversation we overheard as we waited for the theatre to empty out...

"Well, there were some aspects I could've done without." "Like what?" His friend asks.. "Well, for starters, I could have done without the romance... I would've liked it if the marines mowed down those aliens in their first battle. That was their biggest mistake... Y'know Vietnam wasn't our fault. It was the U.S. Army's fault... We did our job..." (I'm assuming his father was a marine in Vietnam or he himself planned to become a marine...) Anyway, it was a blunt reminder that at least 1/2 of the U.S. population still thinks that George Bush was a good president...

 

Anyway, apart from that unfortunate conversation I was forced to listen to aftewards... I liked it so much that me and my wife plan on seeing it again in 3-D!!

Edited December 22, 2009 by fiveelementtao

[Uncle Fester]

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Edited September 19, 2021 by darebak

[Hyrdo]

WOO

 

just saw it, great movie

[goldisheavy]

Thanks for the reviews people. I want to go see this movie too.

[tomodachi101]

Great movie, enjoyed it a lot, 10.000 years too late though.

 

This will give many people a wrong idea, blind nature worship without experience can be very dangerous.

See many hypocrites being born by this and surely will be abused for propaganda by the imperialsts who spent millions and millions producing it, instead of doing something worth while a slow and steady education would be more suitable than a hollywood shocker.

A spiritually corrupt society going "nature" reminds me of the terrors of woodstock and other falseness. Many of the corporate technoshamans used to be hippies.

Quite perverted and twisted, since this is happening right now to the bushmen with their poison bows and arrows, only they stand no chance against the juggernaut of "civilization".

 

Just some thoughts.

[agentofchaos]

Great movie, enjoyed it a lot, 10.000 years too late though.

 

This will give many people a wrong idea, blind nature worship without experience can be very dangerous.

See many hypocrites being born by this and surely will be abused for propaganda by the imperialsts who spent millions and millions producing it, instead of doing something worth while a slow and steady education would be more suitable than a hollywood shocker.

A spiritually corrupt society going "nature" reminds me of the terrors of woodstock and other falseness. Many of the corporate technoshamans used to be hippies.

Quite perverted and twisted, since this is happening right now to the bushmen with their poison bows and arrows, only they stand no chance against the juggernaut of "civilization".

 

Just some thoughts.

 

I'm not sure what you're talking about really, but it's just a movie. People need to stop with the conspiracy theories. People go to movies for entertainment, not to form their spiritual and/or political beliefs. Not that I agree with your assessment in the first place.

[TheSongsofDistantEarth]

 

terrors of woodstock and other falseness

 

 

 

Terrors of Woodstock?

[tomodachi101]

No need to agree, no expectations.

People not going to movies to further their spiritual beliefs stopped for me when reading how kundalini energies were moved while watching. All media plays with emotions due to its audio/visual power. Whats wrong with a conspiratorial perspective, thought to put it out there due to the timing of the release. Predictive programming is an issue. Art has always been used as a subtle mouthpiece to get messages out, for the better or worse. Every commodity should be viewed at least with a grain of skepticism, its "just" entertainment seems to be a bit of a cop out.

 

The hypocrisy of woodstock (or the new age).... maybe a bit harsh since I wasn't there and have nothing concrete to back it up, except for what I read, lsd, cia, rape.... Imo just a too radical shift from "evil" to "good". No need to start a debate because of a mere movie, just my personal feelings.

[agentofchaos]

Tom, with all due respect, I think you're over analyzing it, and in turn finding a message that isn't there. I think any messages and/or themes in Avatar were broad and much more innocent then some of the insidious and contrived theories I've heard here. We watched the same movie, and you took from it a negative message, whereas I didn't. Your ideas here, in my opinion, are pretty out there. It's a slippery slope with conspiracy theories.

[Vajrasattva]

 

People not going to movies to further their spiritual beliefs stopped for me when reading how kundalini energies were moved while watching.

 

 

Meditation, Dance, Music, Film, & Love can trigger Kundalini and kriyas. "Little Buddha" has strong similar effect as did "Last Samurai."

[ShaktiMama]

Meditation, Dance, Music, Film, & Love can trigger Kundalini and kriyas. "Little Buddha" has strong similar effect as did "Last Samurai."

 

 

Having been a member and owner of several kundalini lists since 1996 I can attest to the fact that what he says above is true. One of the favorite topics of discussion among kundalites is what activates and moves kundalini in their bodies. Movies and music are at the top of the lists. I would get chills watching "Powder".

 

There is more not known about what happens with kundalites when they interact with the world than is known. This is one of those things that you will never read about in a book or research paper.

 

We also talk about foods, essential oils or scents, colors, lovemaking, intense emotions, movements that excite Kundalini in the body. Really anything that causes joy, gratitude, pleasure or intense wonder will move Kundalini. Being in awe of the Universe in all its wondrous manifestations goes hand in hand with kundalini.

[agentofchaos]

Having been a member and owner of several kundalini lists since 1996 I can attest to the fact that what he says above is true. One of the favorite topics of discussion among kundalites is what activates and moves kundalini in their bodies. Movies and music are at the top of the lists. I would get chills watching "Powder".

 

There is more not known about what happens with kundalites when they interact with the world than is known. This is one of those things that you will never read about in a book or research paper.

 

We also talk about foods, essential oils or scents, colors, lovemaking, intense emotions, movements that excite Kundalini in the body. Really anything that causes joy, gratitude, pleasure or intense wonder will move Kundalini. Being in awe of the Universe in all its wondrous manifestations goes hand in hand with kundalini.

 

The "chills" are the reason I've been so passionate about the arts my whole life. We should all have something(s) in our life that gives us this feeling. Love being at the top of the list.

[Way]

Meditation, Dance, Music, Film, & Love can trigger Kundalini and kriyas. "Little Buddha" has strong similar effect as did "Last Samurai."

 

Sad, I know, But I started getting krias whilst watching DS9 on the box. There was some religious ceremony taking place. Maybe it's the mind that differentiates between what is "real" and "unreal", but the heart or maybe kundalini experiences all experience as real.

[fiveelementtao]

Sad, I know, But I started getting krias whilst watching DS9 on the box. There was some religious ceremony taking place. Maybe it's the mind that differentiates between what is "real" and "unreal", but the heart or maybe kundalini experiences all experience as real.

Medical experiments have shown that the nervous system cannot tell the difference between an imagined and a real event. This is why it is important to spend time smiling and laughing throughout the day as opposed to dwelling on resentments, fears etc... If you imagine something, your body reacts as though it is really happening. If you imagine you are filled with the bliss of heaven, your body will react as though it is true. And at that point, who's to say it isn't?

[Vajrasattva]

Having been a member and owner of several kundalini lists since 1996 I can attest to the fact that what he says above is true. One of the favorite topics of discussion among kundalites is what activates and moves kundalini in their bodies. Movies and music are at the top of the lists. I would get chills watching "Powder".

 

There is more not known about what happens with kundalites when they interact with the world than is known. This is one of those things that you will never read about in a book or research paper.

 

We also talk about foods, essential oils or scents, colors, lovemaking, intense emotions, movements that excite Kundalini in the body. Really anything that causes joy, gratitude, pleasure or intense wonder will move Kundalini. Being in awe of the Universe in all its wondrous manifestations goes hand in hand with kundalini.

 

 

yes i forgot about powder!

 

Medical experiments have shown that the nervous system cannot tell the difference between an imagined and a real event. This is why it is important to spend time smiling and laughing throughout the day as opposed to dwelling on resentments, fears etc... If you imagine something, your body reacts as though it is really happening. If you imagine you are filled with the bliss of heaven, your body will react as though it is true. And at that point, who's to say it isn't?

 

 

This is why SECRET SMILE in KAP is so important.

 

And I agree with you .

[ShaktiMama]

Medical experiments have shown that the nervous system cannot tell the difference between an imagined and a real event. This is why it is important to spend time smiling and laughing throughout the day as opposed to dwelling on resentments, fears etc... If you imagine something, your body reacts as though it is really happening. If you imagine you are filled with the bliss of heaven, your body will react as though it is true. And at that point, who's to say it isn't?

 

 

EXACTLY. I tell my students ALL the time that the mind cannot tell the difference between a real and imagined thing. It is just a neutral tool. If this was not true we would have no entertainment industry. We would have nothing that causes the mind to create sensations. Porn would cease to exist among other things. Avatar would never be made. We would be Borg.

 

Such a powerful healing and transformational application of the mind but we waste it because either we have not been taught or we just don't care or understand the implications.

[TzuJanLi]

Greetings..

 

SEE the movie.. suspend the thinking.. let the experience sink-in.. then, contemplate the totality of it..

 

On a scale of 1 - 10, it was a 12.5..

 

Be well..

[One love]

Medical experiments have shown that the nervous system cannot tell the difference between an imagined and a real event.

 

Can you hook me up with the link ?

 

I was going to see Avatar tommorow but it got postponed to Saturday. According to your reviews I'm in for a blast.

Edited December 23, 2009 by One love

[fiveelementtao]

Can you hook me up with the link ?

 

I was going to see Avatar tommorow but it got postponed to Saturday. According to your reviews I'm in for a blast.

Sorry, I read about the study in college some 20 years ago in a text book.

[therion]

Could it be that the buddhas are getting desperate trying to reach beings of samsara?

 

I mean the average joe is so distracted from reality and his true nature that something like this had to be created to first join him in his illusion and then get the message across that way.

 

Sakyamuni's teachings are not getting his attention. Then why not inspire some talented director to create a world mirroring our own and explain the situation. Pandora is that world. The interdependent co-arising is one of the main themes of the movie. One group gets it (the na'vi), the other doesn't (the humans) and one comes to discover it (jake sully) and is completely floored by it.

 

There is also a hint that samsara and nirvana are to be found existing in the same realm. Enlightenment is not to be found in some other realm but right here where we are, in the physical universe. Pandora is part of this universe, nirvana is to be found right here in the mind just like samsara. A real buddhist could explain it much better and in greater detail (anyone?) but this is what I got from the movie.

 

Also the grand daddy of all buddhas, the primordial buddha, is Vajradhara. Google his picture.

[~jK~]

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Seriously it's super, like, good and stuff. Go see it in 3D.

 

http://www.avatarmovie.com/

 

Being as that I am one of the 5 people that survived Vietnam and the wars since, from my highschool graduating class, I tend to try to forget how conditioned people in the west are to war propaganda.

 

"War is Rich Man's Gain - Poor Man's Pain" is as true in the movie as it is in reality.

 

Evolution of the superior race is based on survival -

AKA: Knowing the insainity of the masses -

Before it becomes Your Insainity.

Die Young and evolve later.

Fertalizer for the earth.

[goldisheavy]

I loved the movie. I would highly recommend it to anyone.

[~jK~]

I loved the movie. I would highly recommend it to anyone.

 

So Quick - that is what my schoolmates said before shipping off to be used as bullet shields in the Tet Offensive !

 

I repeat

 

"Being as that I am one of the 5 people that survived Vietnam and the wars since, from my highschool graduating class, I tend to try to forget how conditioned people in the west are to war propaganda."

 

"War is Rich Man's Gain - Poor Man's Pain" is as true in the movie as it is in reality.

 

Evolution of the superior race is based on survival -

AKA: Knowing the insainity of the masses -

Before it becomes Your Insainity AKA:

Die Young and evolve later.

Fertalizer for the earth."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Aetherous]

I don't see how Avatar can be war propaganda.

 

The best it can do is cause us to lose morale, due to empathizing with the "enemy".

[fiveelementtao]

JK have you seen the movie yet? If not, I think you may have the wrong idea of what is about? It is NOT pro war.

So Quick - that is what my schoolmates said before shipping off to be used as bullet shields in the Tet Offensive !

 

I repeat

 

"Being as that I am one of the 5 people that survived Vietnam and the wars since, from my highschool graduating class, I tend to try to forget how conditioned people in the west are to war propaganda."

 

"War is Rich Man's Gain - Poor Man's Pain" is as true in the movie as it is in reality.

 

Evolution of the superior race is based on survival -

AKA: Knowing the insainity of the masses -

Before it becomes Your Insainity AKA:

Die Young and evolve later.

Fertalizer for the earth."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~