thaddeus Posted January 17, 2006 Found it in NYC's chinatown, still reading: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/091495571...=books&v=glance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trunk Posted January 17, 2006 The table of contents looks promising. imo, he's talking about many of the right topics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trunk Posted January 28, 2006 Found it in NYC's chinatown, still reading: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/091495571...=books&v=glance  I ordered this from Amazon, and read ~100 pages of it. Its awful. Waste of time. At first I saw that the writing was really poor, but thought, "oh, well, there might be some gems, still, in here" and plugged along. It just kept getting worse. Threw it in the trash last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thaddeus Posted January 29, 2006 I ordered this from Amazon, and read ~100 pages of it. Its awful. Waste of time. At first I saw that the writing was really poor, but thought, "oh, well, there might be some gems, still, in here" and plugged along. It just kept getting worse. Threw it in the trash last night. What did you find awful about it? Can you elaborate? Thanks, T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leo Posted January 31, 2006 Well I'm stumped! I saw your post and ordered the book right away. The author has trained with Stephen Chang, and it seemed to elaborate on a lot of his teachings. It is very much based on the Deer Excercise which works a heck of a lot better for me than Mantak Chia's stuff ever did . He takes a lot of the excercises that Chang provides, and adds suggestions for things like specific numbers of reps, and generally organizes them a little better (that's not to say that Chang's book isn't still worth getting). I was also pleasantly suprised by all of the diagrams, and other info I didn't know I was getting. Â The writing style is a little dry, but it is also a translation from the German, so that may contribute. It certainly may seem a little different for someone used to Mantak Chia, and other writers that sort of follow that same type of "line", if you will. But there is definately a lineage and a background there. Anyway, if you look at the list of the guy's credentials and teachers in the back, it seems evident that he knows SOMETHING...it may not be the most popular or mainstream chi kung book...but garbage worthy???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trunk Posted January 31, 2006 This discussion has prompted me to fish it out of the garbage can in my bedroom intact and (except for a little dignity) unscathed. Maybe we can hash it out a bit and still find something useful in there. When I have a moment, I'll type thoughts about it in more detail and post. Â It is very much based on the Deer Excercise which works a heck of a lot better for me than Mantak Chia's stuff ever didCurious to hear your experience/take/thoughts on the Deer Exercise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thaddeus Posted January 31, 2006 This discussion has prompted me to fish it out of the garbage can in my bedroom intact and (except for a little dignity) unscathed. Maybe we can hash it out a bit and still find something useful in there. When I have a moment, I'll type thoughts about it in more detail and post. Â Curious to hear your experience/take/thoughts on the Deer Exercise. Â I can't say I'm rallying for people to buy this book. At the same time, I wouldn't go out and recommend chia's books either without tons of caveats. But it does have alot of discussion of the deer exercise and he seems to really stress pulling up the pelvic floor on all the chigongs. I have not seen a more than cursory discussion of the pelvic floor anywere except for Eric Franklin's excellent gem, Pelvic Power. (please recommend some if you heard of any). So it was good to see this being covered somewhere. Would love to discuss this book with knowledgeable people as yourself. T. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites