The Fourth Kind (MOVIE)

[Peterminator]

its only creepy if you have gone through it or have actually dealt with the darker sides of the anunaki.

 

I was reading about this stuff a LOT few years ago ..Zachary Sitchin, Edgar Cayce, Nibiru, Annunaki, nuclear missiles in ancient times blabla etc... and it all seemed logically connected together, that's why it's so creepy to me. What i thought just by looking at her face was that she was the alien, not these shadows...

[voidisyinyang]

Supporters ("Sitchinites") claim that Sitchin is one of the few people who read the Sumerian language and that because he can read Sumerian, he must be interpreting the data properly. The assertion that he is one of the few scholars of Sumerian is not true. Moreover, the idea that someone may be able to read a language and therefore can interpret its data properly is a specious argument, because the one certainly does not guarantee the other. Years before Sitchin, biblical and Dead Sea scrolls scholar John Allegro studied Sumerian intimately and came to very different conclusions: To wit, that many of the words revolved around sex and drugs. Hence, it is not the "mere" ability to read the Sumerian that will produce an accurate rendering of it.

 

Like so many other paradigms that make it into popular culture, the alien astronaut theory has been agenda-driven. In fact, it seems that the most recent attempt may be prompted by the same type of motivation that produced the Bible, a chronicle largely consisting of the plagiarized myths of other cultures that were evemeristically reconstituted as "humans" of a particular ethnicity. It appears that the Anunnaki thesis has now led to the conclusion that, while the Bible is not infallible, its god Yahweh is valid and its various characters are the superhuman alien-hybrid progenitors of "the chosen."

 

In reality, there was no reason to recreate the ancient gods as people or humans, because the ancients themselves were quite clear about what it was exactly they were worshipping and fancifully describing in epic poetry. The speculation is not needed, as, for example, the Sumero-Babylonians themselves said that the gods were the planets, not people, and that their stories were myths representing personifications of these bodies.

 

I was reading about this stuff a LOT few years ago ..Zachary Sitchin, Edgar Cayce, Nibiru, Annunaki, nuclear missiles in ancient times blabla etc... and it all seemed logically connected together, that's why it's so creepy to me. What i thought just by looking at her face was that she was the alien, not these shadows...

[Non]

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/vidaalien_signtimes.htm

 

haha. Well the theory goes that...

 

There are many different extraterrestrials involved on planet Earth. The Verdants, Annunaki, Reptoids, even hyperversals. IT might even be thought that hyperversals let all our suffering occur because, well, to limit us. They have a so called "reason", and that is, to not let humans become too powerful, or any other extraterrestrials down here. For the purpose of limiting us from creating and using wormhole technology, which supposedly caused the destruction of the universe in the last cycle, so they 'dont want it to happen again'. They might even have created some of these extraterrestrials or be controlling them. Anyway. Some are benevolent, some are not.

 

The annunki, or "SAMs" are mixed. Some of them, do care, some of the don't. Some hate, many, indifferent.

 

many of our early religions and even modern, come from alien transmissions, or communications with humans, although many of them are in disguise.

 

According to the ancient sumerians, we were created by the Annunaki. They had their own Adam and Eve.

 

Marduk, is Annunaki, and he is "Lucifer" in the bible. God and Satan, are basically the Enlil and the Enki, respectively. You see the Enki and the Enlil were competing against each other. The Enki also had his own religion, Islam. Actually, basically what happened was that there was a lot of jelousy that Enlil had, and the Enki and Enlil had created their own religions among the humans. The Enki and the Enlil became part of seperate factions which were called Serpent and Ram factions, respectively. So there were at the time a bunch of Serpent and Ram factions. Islam being of the Serpent, and the Judaic being of the Ram. I can't recall the other religions associations with each faction right now.

 

Both the Enki and the Enlil didn't care much for humans either. They just wanted to control them. The Big Flood recorded in both the Epic of Gilgamesh (Sumerian) and in the Bible was actually planet Nibiru coming inbound in our solar system, causing havoc and Earth changes. Now, how good a God was Enlil? Enlil was the Judaic God. Enlil was the Judaic God. But the Enki in the competition was winning the approval of the humans, and the Enlil became furious. He didn't tell any of the humans of the incoming planet Nibiru. But Enki had developed an affinity to the humans since they started to prefer the Enki better than the Enlil, so he warned Noah, and instructed him to create and arc to save himself and many of the creations.

 

So yeah...

 

Then we had Marduk, which really did not give a f*ck about humans. He is now part of the Serpent Faction, and the Enki is still part of it as well. Marduk wants to take over the Earth and mine it for it's resources, and make humanity slaves. He wants to take advantage of the time planet Nibiru comes again which will be showing up around 2012 in the southern hemisphere, but by then I'm not even sure it will be too visible, but surely those with telescopes will be able to see it. The whole Earth changes from that will begin to increase anywhere in the next 5-10 yrs and onwards, and Nibiru will make it's closes approach between 2015-2020 to 2035 I'd say.

 

So yeah.

 

The plan is to take over, just like it says in Armageddon, of course it's not to be taken literally but metaphorically. There are many parallels with this theory and the Bible too just so you know.

 

And uhm..

 

So the plan is to take the humans underground when all this happens. This will be a Trap! There might also be other extraterrestrials on the surface that want to take us, and it will also be a trap. There are also many 'seers' who think they're communicating with benevolent extraterrestrials but it is a trap. Especially the ones communicating with Marduk's faction. They will tell them all to meet up at a certain area where they will be "Coming". And they will expect benevolent extraterrestrials. They might even come down and still act benevolent but then afterwards, they will slaughter the innocent.

 

Meanwhile, part of that faction will also infiltrate the our governments, play the good guy, and then lead humanity underground to "keep us safe" from the destruction on the surface. As I said before, this is a trap.

 

So what do those who want to survive want to do? Stay on the surface, in the safest place possible Most likely the mountains. Or find a way to teleport out of here. Whatever. Maybe find benevolent ETs to help us along the way or save us, and take us off-planet.

 

Also, Jesus has been thought to be currently residing on Nibiru right now. He might be a human hybrid. But he isn't the real "higher self" that people may claim. Sure he might want to help us, but he's only coming either before, or even after all the destruction. He might want to help individuals though, not sure. He was after all, the King of Jews, and their Messiah, but they denied him. So he wanted to help humans, but they too, deny him. So he doesn't want to come at the wrong time. Right now the majority would most likely deny him, so he doesn't come until much later. But the "higher self", that is proposed to be Jesus, and probably was in Jesus, is something we call the Dedicated Human (DH), and can manifest himself in all humans. He's like, the queen bee of a bee hive, but the entire hive is also the DH manifest. And we need to tune ourselves to our higher self and collective self/christ consciousness, w/e, before it gets too late. He might come in the form of a higher ideal, or communicate to us through 'tao', I dont know. I myself need to. I was recommended to read the book A Course in Miracles (ACIM) since that might teach me to deeper attune to the DH. Although the book is speaking of Jesus, it is probably using the form of Jesus to communicate the DH's teachings. I'm not sure if it's the true Jesus in ACIM, but like I said, it might really be the DH communicating in clear, easier to grasp teachings. That is not to say you can't find the DH anywhere else, in fact he probably manifests in ALL human beings, at all times, it's just that for some you have to really look for it than others.

 

In fact I don't even know that much because I get my info from somewhere else. But it has been said that he does manifest himself in all human beings, at all times, and that some are just more attuned to "him" than others.

 

Anyways it's "complicated"

 

Oh yeah, and it was also said the Free Energy Tech and /or ZPE tech will be released, and more advanced biophysics might be acheived, but I dont know if that means, that humanity or our governments will use it for good, or to it's fullest, nor release it all completely.

Edited January 21, 2010 by Non

[Gerard]

Hmm...I got a virus from that Ninja site just now. Kinda pissed off.

 

 

I know. I went there and it tried to infect me via cross-site scripting. I use Firefox with No Script and it stopped it.

 

BE CAREFUL WITH THAT SITE.

 

 

There is no need to spend money on an AV. Avast free is a top choice.

 

http://www.av-comparatives.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=139&Itemid=164

 

Solely relying on an AV from a computer security perspective is not wise. Always adopt a multi-layered approach.

 

Sorry for going off-topic.

Edited January 21, 2010 by durkhrod chogori

[Spirit Ape]

Could that Owl be somehow connected to the OWL that the illuminati worship when all the leaders get together?

 

Something Grove its called and they worship a HUGE owl statue?

 

Ape

[voidisyinyang]

Moloch -- people were sacrificed to him. It's definitely connected -- good point. I go into this research in my http://naturalresonancerevolution.blogspot.com website

 

Could that Owl be somehow connected to the OWL that the illuminati worship when all the leaders get together?

 

Something Grove its called and they worship a HUGE owl statue?

 

Ape

[Biff]

its only creepy if you have gone through it or have actually dealt with the darker sides of the anunaki.

 

Have you?

[Biff]

I watched this last night... I thought it was quite good apart from the acting of the women with the big eyes. One thing that stood out is the time 3:33am. I immediately thought Kunlun!! because I hear Max recommends to practice at 3am and also that KL practitioners usually wake up a 3am every night (also noted to be the hight of DMT levels from the pineal gland).

 

Even if it is a fake, the Sumerian deal is quite interesting. How do we explain their apparent knowledge of he solar system so many thousands of years ago? With the sun as the center. They have an extra planet in there they called Nibiru that Nasa says is bullshit (Nasa says it's total shit). Then again the image on the tablet could represent something else entirely?

 

Edited January 23, 2010 by Biff

[Peterminator]

Too many doubts in this topic to define any answer. They might have included Moon in this picture or not and then we might have a problem or might not..

Btw. these videos with disruptions where that dude in bed is levitating and screaming with this demonic voice - were they real? Because Milla Jovovich in the beginning say that they used true case material to make the story more real..

[voidisyinyang]

No -- it's fake just like Sitchin's books. haha.

 

Check this out:

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6264325456492916820#

 

You listen to the above interview with this military dude who has a close encounter -- he sees a light, hears a female metallic voice, sees a creature, then blacks out -- and then says BUD HOPKINS hypnotized him. haha. How come all these alien abductees do not remember anything until AFTER Bud Hopkins puts his slimy hands all over them. haha.

 

Too many doubts in this topic to define any answer. They might have included Moon in this picture or not and then we might have a problem or might not..

Btw. these videos with disruptions where that dude in bed is levitating and screaming with this demonic voice - were they real? Because Milla Jovovich in the beginning say that they used true case material to make the story more real..

Edited January 23, 2010 by drewhempel

[Biff]

No -- it's fake just like Sitchin's books. haha.

 

Check this out:

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6264325456492916820#

 

You listen to the above interview with this military dude who has a close encounter -- he sees a light, hears a female metallic voice, sees a creature, then blacks out -- and then says BUD HOPKINS hypnotized him. haha. How come all these alien abductees do not remember anything until AFTER Bud Hopkins puts his slimy hands all over them. haha.

 

Sitchin is disputed but I would not go as far as calling him a fake. Besides why is it so hard to believe in 'Aliens' when you so readily talk of Chunyi Lin's spirits? It seems you believe without question anything he says, like the account of his going without food and meeting the naked people who showed him new stuff about acupuncture. Anyway, no need to reply to that Drew as I know it will just be a bunch of links to his website. I was just making a point so lets not turn this into a discussion/spam/advertisement about SFQ ;-).

 

 

Too many doubts in this topic to define any answer. They might have included Moon in this picture or not and then we might have a problem or might not..

Btw. these videos with disruptions where that dude in bed is levitating and screaming with this demonic voice - were they real? Because Milla Jovovich in the beginning say that they used true case material to make the story more real..

 

Not sure. There were missing people (24?) in Nome at the time and some people attribute it to a serial killer but it's unconfirmed. I read somewhere that the some fake sites were put up by the production company and they were fined and the sites taken down. There was a site HERE that had a bio on Dr Abigail Tyler but it was a newish site and has now gone. Then there was THIS site that had a story from the Nome Nugget about Abigail Tyler moving to Nome for research (also now gone). They might show stuff in the Internet archive?

 

The end of the film it tells about what the people are doing now. But the names and professions of most people but Abigail have been switched to 'hide identity' making research more difficult. However Dr Awolowa Odusami (alias) is supposed to have attained a tenure at a prestigious Canadian University. He was also supposedly involved with the making of the film by helping out with Sumerian translations. Given his niche (Sumerian linguistics) he should not be hard to find I guess. What about Dr Abigail Tyler? even if her name was changed it would not be hard to find out who she is. If you can be bothered.

 

Milla Jovovich most certainly does say;

"This film is a dramatization of events that occurred"

"To better explain the story, directors included actual archive footage throughout the film. This footage was acquired from Nome psychologist Dr Abigail Tyler"

"Every dramatized scene in this movie is supported by either archive audio, video or as it was related by Dr Tyler during extensive interviews with the director"

"In the end, what you believe is yours to decide"

 

 

~~~ TheTaoBums Moderation Team ~~~

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- Trunk

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[Non]

damnit. I watched this at night. I couldn't sleep that night without my lights on. And even then, I felt like every lapse in time that I could've just fallen asleep, somethijng was happeneing.

 

I've had many sleep hypnosis episodes, where I felt like something was around me whiel in bed, and I couldn't move, I felt very haevy, and then I feel a splitting pain, or I levitate.

 

And the voices too seem like something I've heard or something deep and archetypal like, the most fearful horrific thing you can imagine associated with alien abductions.

 

And guess what, that Sumerian language, with the periods in between each syllable, IS how they REALLY talk.

 

I had some "insider info" that the movie was actually ghost written by someone, that's why it actually seems very real.

Edited February 7, 2010 by Non

[Non]

I was also high on THC (marijuana) and ORMUS so I was acutely self-aware/self conscious ie paranoia. lol.

 

If there's one thing I am probably most afraid of when it comes to the paranormal it's alien abductions. Ghosts, monsters, etc, don't freak me out as much.

 

It feels like I've heard these voices too, like in the movie. I've seen and experienced things whjich are similar but more in the dream state or the sleep paralysis state. Or whatever they were. It can be seen as the same type of hypnosis.

 

That also might explain how I listen a lot to psychedelic trance music which is usually themed with ETs and mysteriousness of ancient ETs in the dark mystical/mythical traditions and futuristic alien space age technology, especially a lot of the dark psytrance/downtempo ambient-psy much I am freaked out by it because some of them have some of the weird sounds these same aliens make, and the ominous freaky hypnotic vibes and melodies associated. Ever since I was a child I was most freaked out by aliens, ever since I saw material about them on TV. It feels like those voices are embedded into my memory somewhere in de ja vu lang, like I said it feels like, archetypal even.

Edited February 7, 2010 by Non

[Aetherous]

Finally saw it. Interesting and freaky.

 

Although I didn't like how they tried to say they were using actual footage...they could have pulled that off in a better way.

[Guest paul walter]

I was also high on THC (marijuana) and ORMUS so I was acutely self-aware/self conscious ie paranoia. lol.

 

If there's one thing I am probably most afraid of when it comes to the paranormal it's alien abductions. Ghosts, monsters, etc, don't freak me out as much.

 

It feels like I've heard these voices too, like in the movie. I've seen and experienced things whjich are similar but more in the dream state or the sleep paralysis state. Or whatever they were. It can be seen as the same type of hypnosis.

 

That also might explain how I listen a lot to psychedelic trance music which is usually themed with ETs and mysteriousness of ancient ETs in the dark mystical/mythical traditions and futuristic alien space age technology, especially a lot of the dark psytrance/downtempo ambient-psy much I am freaked out by it because some of them have some of the weird sounds these same aliens make, and the ominous freaky hypnotic vibes and melodies associated. Ever since I was a child I was most freaked out by aliens, ever since I saw material about them on TV. It feels like those voices are embedded into my memory somewhere in de ja vu lang, like I said it feels like, archetypal even.

 

 

Non, if you surround yourself with this stuff and abuse yourself with drugs you will have strange things 'happen'. Get your diet right first or you will be looking for answers in everything as you are currently doing. To me it's obvious what your 'condition' is(and to older people on the forum too no doubt) and your lifestyle choices feed it for the worse. No ormus and dope don't mix--but they will,unfortunately take you far away from the pain you are still suffering and give you the illusion that everything can be hidden from and everything is out to get you. The sleep paralysis state and alien abduction thing is a common psychological 'trick' our minds play on us when we have been traumatised in life and don't want to face the origins of the trauma--and no, it wasn't aliens that caused it. We make up the wildest realities and contantly ascribe properties to 'supernatural' things when we are feeling the most confusd and helpless. Paul.

[Dreamingawake]

just watched it the other night. I thought the 'real' chick had a genuinely creepy vibe to her. About as real as any other horror movie but it does get points for atmosphere.

 

If anybody here is familiar with Pen and Teller's "bullshit," they did an episode about people recovering abduction memories under hypnosis. They got a therapist who ran an abduction support group to let the sit in on and record a 'recovery' session. This therapist placed the person under hypnosis then proceeded to lead them through the whole thing.

 

Therapist - where are you?

Patient - in my car

T - do you see a light?

P - yes

T - Is it behind you in the air?

P - yes

T - Is it aliens?

P - yes

 

after the session, the patient was happy to have 'recovered' these memories and thought it explained all his problems. BTW he also joined the support group. :wacko:

 

Are aliens real? probably. There's an awful lot of space out there.

Are they abducting people from earth? Sure it's possible.

Are all (or even most) these people who think they've been abducted right? I seriously doubt it.

 

A friend of mine talked to the leader of MUFON who's been searching for and studying UFO sightings for god knows how long. This guy said in all his years and all the thousands and thousands of cases he's investigated, there is only one that he suspects might be genuinely alien. Just a passing anecdote, but still, it does put things into a little perspective.

[Aetherous]

I thought the 'real' chick had a genuinely creepy vibe to her.

 

Definitely.

[Non]

Non, if you surround yourself with this stuff and abuse yourself with drugs you will have strange things 'happen'. Get your diet right first or you will be looking for answers in everything as you are currently doing. To me it's obvious what your 'condition' is(and to older people on the forum too no doubt) and your lifestyle choices feed it for the worse. No ormus and dope don't mix--but they will,unfortunately take you far away from the pain you are still suffering and give you the illusion that everything can be hidden from and everything is out to get you. The sleep paralysis state and alien abduction thing is a common psychological 'trick' our minds play on us when we have been traumatised in life and don't want to face the origins of the trauma--and no, it wasn't aliens that caused it. We make up the wildest realities and contantly ascribe properties to 'supernatural' things when we are feeling the most confusd and helpless. Paul.

 

yea I know.

 

and yea ormus and weed dont mix in fact the weed diminishes the 'hightened' effect. besides when u take ormus you're not supposed to feel high at least after you've become desentisized to the effects and it has made the changes to your body that would make the most use of it. ie, the high u get is just the initial shock factor or jump/kickstart.

 

but yea i kinda thought also that since i feared the aliens, that 1 the weed and ormus mixing would make my thoughts more powerful such that it could actually manifest. or at least i could have some serious thoughts about it.

[Non]

Definitely.

 

 

yes. the creepy chick even looks alien and traumatized. her emotions at the end... seemed consistent with the ominous vibe, especially when she's explaining that while she was under hypnosis her and her group were all abducted.

Edited February 8, 2010 by Non

[Guest paul walter]

yea I know.

 

and yea ormus and weed dont mix in fact the weed diminishes the 'hightened' effect. besides when u take ormus you're not supposed to feel high at least after you've become desentisized to the effects and it has made the changes to your body that would make the most use of it. ie, the high u get is just the initial shock factor or jump/kickstart.

 

but yea i kinda thought also that since i feared the aliens, that 1 the weed and ormus mixing would make my thoughts more powerful such that it could actually manifest. or at least i could have some serious thoughts about it.

 

 

 

Well, then in light of the info DreamingAwake gave I think it follows that people are drawn to whatever will easily explain their confusions about themselves and why 'nothing' works out for them. It's no co-incidence that the people with the highest interest in this stuff are the most dispossessed/fractured and looking for belonging in society. This also goes for dope smoking, Dungeons and Dragons, 'conspiracy' theory types (and yes,I know everything is a consiracy, just not a glamourous one like a lot want to think it is in order to spice up their life), role-playing games, sci-fi/fantasy stuff....I've seen lives ruined and held in check for decades by this shit. Paul.

[SeriesOfTubes]

 

If anybody here is familiar with Pen and Teller's "bullshit," they did an episode about people recovering abduction memories under hypnosis. They got a therapist who ran an abduction support group to let the sit in on and record a 'recovery' session. This therapist placed the person under hypnosis then proceeded to lead them through the whole thing.

 

Therapist - where are you?

Patient - in my car

T - do you see a light?

P - yes

T - Is it behind you in the air?

P - yes

T - Is it aliens?

P - yes

 

 

That's just improperly applied regression technique. Unfortunately, there's a lot of poorly trained hypnotists out there and even psychologists are notorious for having out of date hypnosis training (or none, if they never sought out certification on their own as it's not a requirement at any point in obtaining a doctorate degree). If thats the only hypnotist Penn and Teller showed, then they are definitely showing bias by depicting the worst of the worst therapists. In proper regression therapy, the wording is carefully crafted to eliminate the possibility of leading the subject, because people at the threshold of somnambulism could hallucinate just about anything suggested to them.

 

questions to someone in somnambulism should never go beyond things like: "what's happening, what happens next, now what's happening, what are you thinking/feeling.. describe that to me" and a handful of others depending on the nature of the regression etc. It gets even stricter for forensic hypnosis.

 

so yeah if someone is asking leading questions like the quote, the result will definitely be 99.99% BS

[Dreamingawake]

That's just improperly applied regression technique. Unfortunately, there's a lot of poorly trained hypnotists out there and even psychologists are notorious for having out of date hypnosis training (or none, if they never sought out certification on their own as it's not a requirement at any point in obtaining a doctorate degree). If thats the only hypnotist Penn and Teller showed, then they are definitely showing bias by depicting the worst of the worst therapists. In proper regression therapy, the wording is carefully crafted to eliminate the possibility of leading the subject, because people at the threshold of somnambulism could hallucinate just about anything suggested to them.

 

questions to someone in somnambulism should never go beyond things like: "what's happening, what happens next, now what's happening, what are you thinking/feeling.. describe that to me" and a handful of others depending on the nature of the regression etc. It gets even stricter for forensic hypnosis.

 

so yeah if someone is asking leading questions like the quote, the result will definitely be 99.99% BS

 

Penn and Teller are admittedly in their own words "biased as all f**k" but just as you said, there are a lot of poorly trained hypnotists out there. Whats "proper" and what really happens are almost always different no matter what the subject matter.

So what makes more sense? That there are as many alien abductions as there are home invasions or that people desperately looking for answers are being handed a convenient excuse? A boogyman to pin all their problems on?

 

After all as your post points out, regression is powerful enough that even a well meaning hypnotist can literally rewrite a persons past with a slip of the tongue.

[三江源]

its only creepy if you have gone through it or have actually dealt with the darker sides of the anunaki.

 

AAARGH!!!

 

You have to come back and tell us more, or are just trying to freak us out?!

 

 

Nobuthonestly!

[Aetherous]

That's just improperly applied regression technique. Unfortunately, there's a lot of poorly trained hypnotists out there and even psychologists are notorious for having out of date hypnosis training (or none, if they never sought out certification on their own as it's not a requirement at any point in obtaining a doctorate degree). If thats the only hypnotist Penn and Teller showed, then they are definitely showing bias by depicting the worst of the worst therapists. In proper regression therapy, the wording is carefully crafted to eliminate the possibility of leading the subject, because people at the threshold of somnambulism could hallucinate just about anything suggested to them.

 

questions to someone in somnambulism should never go beyond things like: "what's happening, what happens next, now what's happening, what are you thinking/feeling.. describe that to me" and a handful of others depending on the nature of the regression etc. It gets even stricter for forensic hypnosis.

 

so yeah if someone is asking leading questions like the quote, the result will definitely be 99.99% BS

 

Interesting.

 

I think even then, it may be leading. What about the subtle changes in a person's inflection? A person who is in a deeper state of mind can take any external cues (not just someone's words) and come up with something from the deep mind to match it. It seems to me that the subject will always be lead by the hypnotist if they're put into that suggestive state.

[SeriesOfTubes]

Interesting.

 

I think even then, it may be leading. What about the subtle changes in a person's inflection? A person who is in a deeper state of mind can take any external cues (not just someone's words) and come up with something from the deep mind to match it. It seems to me that the subject will always be lead by the hypnotist if they're put into that suggestive state.

 

yeah that's a good point. there's there definitely the meta message, the message behind the words. My sense is that would become an issue with only the most talented clients. People's critical factor is usually not completely blown over, just that there's a varying reduction in the threshold of suggestibility from person to person. I think there's something to be said for the expectations of the hypnotist, such as that the right material to be worked with is going to be presented by the subconscious in order to resolve the issue at hand.

 

People can easily reject suggestions that they don't like, but yeah I pretty much agree that the whole premise of going to a hypnotist with the intent to uncover memories of abduction is leading in itself and problematic in that sense. Same with going with the intent of doing past life regression. Where I trained, the policy is never to do past life regression or any of that stuff on purpose for an issue, but merely to have a contingency plan when it comes up.