Celibacy and sexual energy

[center888]

How does one practice celibacy proberly?

Drew is active in this field (more or less). Anyone else? Any must have books/techniques for this?

After reading drew's posts he says full lotus+mco are enought for his version. But he had also the magnetization, fasting, he talks about the automatic universe when in fullotus and so on.

 

Any other practice/system to transform the sexual energy when celebate?

[voidisyinyang]

Real celibacy means no loss of sex fluid. After I did my main qigong training in 2000 I discovered right away that ejaculation mean my electromagnetic fields dissipated big time. But when I increased my electromagnetic energy females started hitting on me strongly -- really strongly. So then I had to make sure I didn't have nocturnal emissions but I always did when the females hit on me since it deconverted my chi to sex fluid. So then I realized that if I sat in full-lotus long enough it BURNED THE SEX FLUID back into the shen energy (which is the light energy from the chi) and then I could sleep without having nocturnal emissions. But I was still getting hit on strongly and if I ate too much meat then I had stronger jing electrochemical energy and this created even more sex fluid. So I had to ALSO convert the jing energy from the meat back into chi and then into shen. But I was still getting hit on by females tons -- it was really crazy.

 

So then I started sitting in full-lotus in public as a preemptive defense against getting hit on by females so much. I started to forget about this and as I was with a buddy who always sits in McDonalds then a young worker there stood with her backside right in front of my full-lotus position -- about 5 feet from me. When I looked at her backside -- as I really had no choice -- the shen-chi energy shot into her and as she yelped into the air I climaxed with the ejaculation going up my back. The next day I went back to see my buddy and the young female pushed her coworker off the register so she could serve me and she was still giggling with bliss.

 

So then I had to face the truth of what had happened -- instead of me losing my energy through ejaculation I had a psychic mutual climax. So I tested this out with other females but then I realized that females were now sitting by me when I was in full-lotus or positioning and displaying themselves so they also could suck up the chi electromagnetic energy. But since I stayed in full-lotus I still had no ejaculation.

 

But then I realized that I was ALSO collecting the female jing energy from the psychic mutual climax. And then if I had collected a lot of jing energy I was also getting stalked by male pervs who wanted my female jing energy! So I realized I had to also convert the female jing energy I collected during the psychic mutual climaxes back to chi and shen before I went to sleep -- which meant more full-lotus. But also I had to avoid the pervs because their goal is to ejaculate so they would DECONVERT my jing energy which I had collected to create more sex fluid for themselves. This feels like psychic rape because my chi and jing were getting sucked out of my as sex fluid -- just so some male could jerk off. It's not the same as being hit on by a female because the female can have multiple mutual climaxes as it's internal without much fluid loss. When the male ejaculates it triggers the STRESS sympathetic nervous system but the female climax is through the relaxation vagus parasympathetic nervous system.

 

Then I realized that the psychic mutual climax in full-lotus also happened through walls, ceilings, and even with my back to females -- that it was omnidirectional like the third eye -- and that the chi-shen transmission was not effected by wind or weather conditions. Finally the transmission could make contact with females even though they might be say a block away from me -- as long as they were the strongest jing source to suck up my electromagnetic chi male energy.

 

How does one practice celibacy proberly?

Drew is active in this field (more or less). Anyone else? Any must have books/techniques for this?

After reading drew's posts he says full lotus+mco are enought for his version. But he had also the magnetization, fasting, he talks about the automatic universe when in fullotus and so on.

 

Any other practice/system to transform the sexual energy when celebate?

[TTT]

Me! I discovered about the spiritual life from www.celibacy.info , anyone else coming from this?

[Non]

Hi.

 

Hopefully this'll be a good thread.

 

My main problem with celibacy is that it makes the penis shrink.

 

It's also unclear whether all stimulation has to be entirely put away, even if you know how to do a semi non-ejaculatory orgasm, or a full non-ejaculatory orgasm.

 

My problem is that, if my penis will shrink if I become celibate.. I will want to compensate for it with jelqing practices. I've already been practicing them for maintenance, and for well more growth.

 

Jelqing requires an erect penis and stimulation. Ie, the jelqing practice itself stimulates.. and it also draws the jing downards. The problem is, that this is semen retention. I can go up to a point where my PC muscle squeezes on its own, but I don't ejaculate. I've been able to do this as a child, and well I think every guy knows how to.

 

That is semen retention. I can't do the jelqs without semen retention.

 

I wondered if perhaps I was able to do the jelq successfully without semen retention if I dont go past that point where my PC muscle squeezes. I thought wrong because I felt the same congestion, although lessened.

 

So really, do I have to go through the cooling and retraction of the penis to practice 'true' celibacy?

 

I really dont want my penis to shrink, or my testicles. For if the time comes that I need to use it what will the woman say? Do you think I can revert it back to my normal size with regular jelqing again in time?

 

Please do not get me wrong either.

 

I want to practice celibacy because well, I'm not getting laid, but besides that, if I regularly ejaculate 1 or 2 a week, or 1nce every 2 weeks, I still feel tired and weaker after ejaculation.

 

I dont want to put up with this, for simple "maintenance".

 

I'd rather be celibate for the time being.

 

Besides that.. I have come to a point where... I am not sexually turned on by most women. The only woman I'd be turned on by, is the one I will be having sex with. So to have to ejaculate a certain number of times a month I'd have to be turned on. Stimulating myself without the female image and presence involved feels homosexual and even degrading. I also cannot watch pornography as I view it as unbalanced and degrading as the women are. It just disgusts me to see a woman who was used and worn by tons of men and their mix of energies, and I dont want my energies mixed in with that. Everytime I watch porn, I feel different afterwards.

 

So I'm at a point where I have no choice but to be celibate, because I know of no women that I'm interested in (they're all doing other men, I dont want to be mixed with those energies). I also cannot imagine a woman, because well I dont know how to imagine a woman. I've also never had sex.

 

This brings problems for my jelqing practice but for a time I managed to do it with the morning wood. But that also caused semen retention and congestion. By the end of the week I simply Have to ejaculate, otherwise I feel heavy and tangled up in knots down there, and acculumation of postnatal jing in my perineum which doesn't go away.

Edited January 17, 2010 by Non

[voidisyinyang]

When you take in the female jing then your penis swells -- it's a real climax with ejaculation -- only it goes up the spine -- not externally -- so the STRESS nervous system is not activated. So when the jing energy is taken in from the female it's actually testosterone! And your voice gets super deep because the testosterone is going up to the brain via the internal climax. That's the jing energy though. The more and more you convert to chi energy the less there is focus on sex.

 

What happens is that after about 10 mutual climaxes (of male ejaculation equivalent) or 30 female mutual climaxes -- the heart chakra opens and it's REAL LOVE. After that when there is any energy interaction with that female the heart chakra automatically opens up -- so it's like head-over-heels in love type of feeling. This is the oxytocin bond -- super strong. In fact it's also tied in with the electromagnetic chi creation out of the heart energy. So it's like the chick magnet on acid -- like you want to physically be attached to the person and you can not help it -- through the electromagnetic energy. But this connection is also through the shen energy so like entanglement photons -- it's a permanent connection of instantaneous love energy.

 

This is why the real yogi masters like Milarepa state they are "fed by the dakinis" because as your energy increases then you will actually have love dreams with the goddesses and this will give you internal climaxes but in your sleep -- and so you are getting the jing energy from the astral realm. Also you will have precognitive dreams about the O at a Ds with actual physical females -- and then the actual physical O at a D will happen with some female -- who you first met in your dream earlier. At this point you realize that being awake is also a type of dreaming as well.

 

Hi.

 

Hopefully this'll be a good thread.

 

My main problem with celibacy is that it makes the penis shrink.

 

It's also unclear whether all stimulation has to be entirely put away, even if you know how to do a semi non-ejaculatory orgasm, or a full non-ejaculatory orgasm.

 

My problem is that, if my penis will shrink if I become celibate.. I will want to compensate for it with jelqing practices. I've already been practicing them for maintenance, and for well more growth.

 

Jelqing requires an erect penis and stimulation. Ie, the jelqing practice itself stimulates.. and it also draws the jing downards. The problem is, that this is semen retention. I can go up to a point where my PC muscle squeezes on its own, but I don't ejaculate. I've been able to do this as a child, and well I think every guy knows how to.

 

That is semen retention. I can't do the jelqs without semen retention.

 

I wondered if perhaps I was able to do the jelq successfully without semen retention if I dont go past that point where my PC muscle squeezes. I thought wrong because I felt the same congestion, although lessened.

 

So really, do I have to go through the cooling and retraction of the penis to practice 'true' celibacy?

 

I really dont want my penis to shrink, or my testicles. For if the time comes that I need to use it what will the woman say? Do you think I can revert it back to my normal size with regular jelqing again in time?

 

Please do not get me wrong either.

 

I want to practice celibacy because well, I'm not getting laid, but besides that, if I regularly ejaculate 1 or 2 a week, or 1nce every 2 weeks, I still feel tired and weaker after ejaculation.

 

I dont want to put up with this, for simple "maintenance".

[Non]

When you take in the female jing then your penis swells -- it's a real climax with ejaculation -- only it goes up the spine -- not externally -- so the STRESS nervous system is not activated. So when the jing energy is taken in from the female it's actually testosterone! And your voice gets super deep because the testosterone is going up to the brain via the internal climax. That's the jing energy though. The more and more you convert to chi energy the less there is focus on sex.

 

What happens is that after about 10 mutual climaxes (of male ejaculation equivalent) or 30 female mutual climaxes -- the heart chakra opens and it's REAL LOVE. After that when there is any energy interaction with that female the heart chakra automatically opens up -- so it's like head-over-heels in love type of feeling. This is the oxytocin bond -- super strong. In fact it's also tied in with the electromagnetic chi creation out of the heart energy. So it's like the chick magnet on acid -- like you want to physically be attached to the person and you can not help it -- through the electromagnetic energy. But this connection is also through the shen energy so like entanglement photons -- it's a permanent connection of instantaneous love energy.

 

This is why the real yogi masters like Milarepa state they are "fed by the dakinis" because as your energy increases then you will actually have love dreams with the goddesses and this will give you internal climaxes but in your sleep -- and so you are getting the jing energy from the astral realm. Also you will have precognitive dreams about the O at a Ds with actual physical females -- and then the actual physical O at a D will happen with some female -- who you first met in your dream earlier. At this point you realize that being awake is also a type of dreaming as well.

 

heh.. I edited my post sorry. I had tons more to say so if you could look over that I'd greatly appreciate it.

[fiveelementtao]

Well, you guys know my opinion of celibacy from a book/without a teacher. And while it is possible to gain energy from proper retention practices, it is only necessary with lower level energy techniques. It is possible to get the same benefits faster without having to practice celibacy by using higher level energy practices and without the same dangers. As I have always said hyperfocusing on celibacy and retention in a spirit of fear, greed or other emotional attachment will not result in satisfactory results. Celibacy practices without the proper emotional, mental and spiritual maturity and wisdom is a waste of time.

These threads focus only on the reported energy benefits of retention, but that is only part of the whole necessary package. And as I already stated, it is possible to get better and faster results without having to be celibate if you know the higher level energy techniques....

[Non]

Well, you guys know my opinion of celibacy from a book/without a teacher. And while it is possible to gain energy from proper retention practices, it is only necessary with lower level energy techniques. It is possible to get the same benefits faster without having to practice celibacy by using higher level energy practices and without the same dangers. As I have always said hyperfocusing on celibacy and retention in a spirit of fear, greed or other emotional attachment will not result in satisfactory results. Celibacy practices without the proper emotional, mental and spiritual maturity and wisdom is a waste of time.

These threads focus only on the reported energy benefits of retention, but that is only part of the whole necessary package. And as I already stated, it is possible to get better and faster results without having to be celibate if you know the higher level energy techniques....

 

like which ones?

[center888]

When you take in the female jing then your penis swells -- it's a real climax with ejaculation -- only it goes up the spine -- not externally -- so the STRESS nervous system is not activated. So when the jing energy is taken in from the female it's actually testosterone! And your voice gets super deep because the testosterone is going up to the brain via the internal climax. That's the jing energy though. The more and more you convert to chi energy the less there is focus on sex.

 

What happens is that after about 10 mutual climaxes (of male ejaculation equivalent) or 30 female mutual climaxes -- the heart chakra opens and it's REAL LOVE. After that when there is any energy interaction with that female the heart chakra automatically opens up -- so it's like head-over-heels in love type of feeling. This is the oxytocin bond -- super strong. In fact it's also tied in with the electromagnetic chi creation out of the heart energy. So it's like the chick magnet on acid -- like you want to physically be attached to the person and you can not help it -- through the electromagnetic energy. But this connection is also through the shen energy so like entanglement photons -- it's a permanent connection of instantaneous love energy.

 

This is why the real yogi masters like Milarepa state they are "fed by the dakinis" because as your energy increases then you will actually have love dreams with the goddesses and this will give you internal climaxes but in your sleep -- and so you are getting the jing energy from the astral realm. Also you will have precognitive dreams about the O at a Ds with actual physical females -- and then the actual physical O at a D will happen with some female -- who you first met in your dream earlier. At this point you realize that being awake is also a type of dreaming as well.

And in the end "all" you get is on both sides Healing?

This path doesn't sound very well suited for a social live with a job and all the other things. To seat half the time in full lotus for not getting sucked of.

 

Well, you guys know my opinion of celibacy from a book/without a teacher. And while it is possible to gain energy from proper retention practices, it is only necessary with lower level energy techniques. It is possible to get the same benefits faster without having to practice celibacy by using higher level energy practices and without the same dangers. As I have always said hyperfocusing on celibacy and retention in a spirit of fear, greed or other emotional attachment will not result in satisfactory results. Celibacy practices without the proper emotional, mental and spiritual maturity and wisdom is a waste of time.

These threads focus only on the reported energy benefits of retention, but that is only part of the whole necessary package. And as I already stated, it is possible to get better and faster results without having to be celibate if you know the higher level energy techniques....

I wasn't so much interested in a vs thread as such a thing will probably be not very fruitful.

As you write yourself you need the proper techniques for the faster results and a teacher for celibacy results. As it seems I have none of both and can't see currently a way to get one of them I will take the method with better results - if one doesn't know the higher techniques/teacher. And at the moment this appears to me to be celibate. (even if its only for some months)

Edited January 18, 2010 by center888

[voidisyinyang]

It depends where you work. I was working at a place that basically depended on young females who flirted really strongly -- sucking off the males. So they were just stare me down while having their legs crossed pumping away to suck me off. Or stare at my dick while they talked to me, etc. One even had me move into her place but I moved out after the first night! So even the male "director" of that work place was controlled by this younger female who was very well endowed. After she got control of him -- basically castrating him into her possessed sex slave -- then she went after this other male who had power because he was a computer tech dude. So she would sit across from him with these really low cut big cleavage shirts and just stare at him. haha. But for me I was like BRING IT ON!

 

It was really bad because just using sex energy to run a business does not make for good planning. So when our department kept losing money due to it being automated -- the sex star tried to blame it on me! So she wanted to literally take me out as the "fall guy" and she was REALLY ANGRY when she couldn't control me - using the total sex-anger-fear crack down on me. So what I did was just STOP EATING -- and for the three days before our meeting I BURNED OFF all her anger-fear energy into internal climax sex energy. Anger is just REPRESSED SEX ENERGY. Then I went into the meeting and just blissed her out so that she couldn't be angry at me. She tried to get me angry along with another lady-boss who was kind of the master techno female in charge -- supposedly. haha.

 

Anyway I just kept sitting in full-lotus but I couldn't get my diet right because basically I could not eat food but I still was biking 10 miles a day -- even in the winter. So I kept trying antiseptics -- and then eating good food is really expensive if you're not getting the right calories, etc. I didn't have a kitchen in my room -- so coordinating my cooking, etc. was kind of a pain but any food that was prepared was not pure enough. I tried just a raw diet but it was too expensive and I was too hungry, etc. So I either smelled like garlic or like shit and then I passed out from tea tree oil antiseptic after a long "O at a D" session with the one female worker who literally STALKED ME in the office. She would wait until like 2 a.m. for me to show up because my hours were flexible and then she would pretend that she wasn't stalking me! haha.

 

But she was dependent on me to burn off all her stress and fear so she could compete with the other males in the office -- so I don't blame her -- but then after so many O at a Ds with her it was just total love -- even though I wasn't attracted to her visually. So I had this head-over-heels in love feeling but at the same time I smelled like shit because I couldn't maintain the proper diet and meanwhile my department got destroyed and my job was replaced by a demon dialer. So they tried to train me in to a new position but I couldn't work the night shift anymore and being in the office during the day -- it was just too crazy with my smell or with the head-over-heels love energy. So then I just quit but that was after the male director was FIRED. haha. Major downsizing of the whole nonprofit and the place will probably be out of business soon since they were just automating while relying on sex energy for planning. I call this the "trajectory of tantric technology."

 

And in the end "all" you get is on both sides Healing?

This path doesn't sound very well suited for a social live with a job and all the other things. To seat half the time in full lotus for not getting sucked of.

I wasn't so much interested in a vs thread as such a thing will probably be not very fruitful.

As you write yourself you need the proper techniques for the faster results and a teacher for celibacy results. As it seems I have none of both and can't see currently a way to get one of them I will take the method with better results - if one doesn't know the higher techniques/teacher. And at the moment this appears to me to be celibate. (even if its only for some months)

[Non]

heh.. so u just smell like shit then eh?

 

How can your diet be bad if you just eat one veggie meal a day and fast for one day?

 

unless you are just being irresponsible and eating shit.

[gendao]

I really think drewhempel needs his own reality show.

 

Complete with balloon thoughts so he can narrate all the internal action on a subtle level.

 

Seriously, I don't watch TV anymore... But I'd definitely watch this.

 

Hollywood is creatively bankrupt and all recycled horesh!t. Whereas this is the most original stuff I've heard in ages. Dumpster-diving and O@Ds? SERIOUSLY!

 

C'mon Drew - at least a YouTube channel? Humor us.

Edited January 18, 2010 by vortex

[fiveelementtao]

like which ones?

Find a teacher who knows them. Do you really think you could learn them from an internet forum post?

[Non]

Find a teacher who knows them. Do you really think you could learn them from an internet forum post?

 

It is good but it's not entirely necessary.

 

It's just another medium of communication. It just has to be a good teacher I guess.

 

I go to a kung fu school and any time I asked about more detail about the qigong they tell me to just watch what I do, that I shouldn't have to learn all the details because analyzing everything will just overcomplicate things. Even though I'm the analytical type and I think things should be explained Exactly the way they're supposed to.

[Sunya]

I really think drewhempel needs his own reality show.

 

Complete with balloon thoughts so he can narrate all the internal action on a subtle level.

 

Seriously, I don't watch TV anymore... But I'd definitely watch this.

 

Hollywood is creatively bankrupt and all recycled horesh!t. Whereas this is the most original stuff I've heard in ages. Dumpster-diving and O@Ds? SERIOUSLY!

 

C'mon Drew - at least a YouTube channel? Humor us.

 

 

I concur.

[voidisyinyang]

Actually Soundless Dawn has stated he wants to make a video based on my written material -- but that was after I critiqued his latest video:

 

http://labyrinthofthepsychonaut.blogspot.com/

 

Anyway he collaborates with another esoteric music researcher and that guy started sitting in full-lotus after he posted on my blog -- I had blogged on their work before....

 

So there could be a video based on my research but I know that's not the "real" deal. Sorry.

 

I concur.

[Non]

So what do I do?

 

Jelqing fux up my celibacy.

 

How do I counteract the shrinking of my penis from being celibate?

 

I really have no choice but to be celibate because nothing and nobody turns me on right now. Not even porn.

Edited January 18, 2010 by Non

[Aetherous]

You don't need to be celibate to retain your jing. They say 100 days for a reason...it ends and you go back to your normal, healthy life. Sex is natural and very good for you.

 

If someone is relying on celibacy to have energy, then they haven't yet accomplished the foundations of the training.

[voidisyinyang]

Sounds like you're quoting "Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality" translated by Charles Luk. Is that your favorite book?

 

You don't need to be celibate to retain your jing. They say 100 days for a reason...it ends and you go back to your normal, healthy life. Sex is natural and very good for you.

 

If someone is relying on celibacy to have energy, then they haven't yet accomplished the foundations of the training.

[center888]

You don't need to be celibate to retain your jing. They say 100 days for a reason...it ends and you go back to your normal, healthy life. Sex is natural and very good for you.

 

If someone is relying on celibacy to have energy, then they haven't yet accomplished the foundations of the training.

Yep, everyone says something different about the sexual energy area.

Some talk about retention, some about celibacy full/long/short, dual cultivation and so on.

 

What I know is that the last time I was abstinent some things got harder and some easier. For me it's not so much about having energy but what kind of energy, how you can work with it and what it does.

Edited January 19, 2010 by center888

[Pietro]

Me! I discovered about the spiritual life from www.celibacy.info , anyone else coming from this?

Oh Boy.

 

I wonder what our friend Ron would think of this. It looks like apart the chemtrails his other leit motives are all there!

 

Anybody managed to get access to http://www.no-porn.com/ ?

[sabretooth]

Real celibacy means no loss of sex fluid. After I did my main qigong training in 2000 I discovered right away that ejaculation mean my electromagnetic fields dissipated big time. But when I increased my electromagnetic energy females started hitting on me strongly -- really strongly. So then I had to make sure I didn't have nocturnal emissions but I always did when the females hit on me since it deconverted my chi to sex fluid. So then I realized that if I sat in full-lotus long enough it BURNED THE SEX FLUID back into the shen energy (which is the light energy from the chi) and then I could sleep without having nocturnal emissions. But I was still getting hit on strongly and if I ate too much meat then I had stronger jing electrochemical energy and this created even more sex fluid. So I had to ALSO convert the jing energy from the meat back into chi and then into shen. But I was still getting hit on by females tons -- it was really crazy.

 

So then I started sitting in full-lotus in public as a preemptive defense against getting hit on by females so much. I started to forget about this and as I was with a buddy who always sits in McDonalds then a young worker there stood with her backside right in front of my full-lotus position -- about 5 feet from me. When I looked at her backside -- as I really had no choice -- the shen-chi energy shot into her and as she yelped into the air I climaxed with the ejaculation going up my back. The next day I went back to see my buddy and the young female pushed her coworker off the register so she could serve me and she was still giggling with bliss.

 

So then I had to face the truth of what had happened -- instead of me losing my energy through ejaculation I had a psychic mutual climax. So I tested this out with other females but then I realized that females were now sitting by me when I was in full-lotus or positioning and displaying themselves so they also could suck up the chi electromagnetic energy. But since I stayed in full-lotus I still had no ejaculation.

 

But then I realized that I was ALSO collecting the female jing energy from the psychic mutual climax. And then if I had collected a lot of jing energy I was also getting stalked by male pervs who wanted my female jing energy! So I realized I had to also convert the female jing energy I collected during the psychic mutual climaxes back to chi and shen before I went to sleep -- which meant more full-lotus. But also I had to avoid the pervs because their goal is to ejaculate so they would DECONVERT my jing energy which I had collected to create more sex fluid for themselves. This feels like psychic rape because my chi and jing were getting sucked out of my as sex fluid -- just so some male could jerk off. It's not the same as being hit on by a female because the female can have multiple mutual climaxes as it's internal without much fluid loss. When the male ejaculates it triggers the STRESS sympathetic nervous system but the female climax is through the relaxation vagus parasympathetic nervous system.

 

Then I realized that the psychic mutual climax in full-lotus also happened through walls, ceilings, and even with my back to females -- that it was omnidirectional like the third eye -- and that the chi-shen transmission was not effected by wind or weather conditions. Finally the transmission could make contact with females even though they might be say a block away from me -- as long as they were the strongest jing source to suck up my electromagnetic chi male energy.

 

Drew does your instructor go on about electromagnetic field's.

 

 

sabretooth

[center888]

So then I had to make sure I didn't have nocturnal emissions but I always did when the females hit on me since it deconverted my chi to sex fluid. So then I realized that if I sat in full-lotus long enough it BURNED THE SEX FLUID back into the shen energy (which is the light energy from the chi) and then I could sleep without having nocturnal emissions.

About how long were you sitting in full-lotus to convert the sex fluid back to shen before you started doing full-lotus in public?

[gendao]

How do I counteract the shrinking of my penis from being celibate?

I've been celibate for months, and my penis hasn't shrunk. If anything, its tone & circulation have actually increased. Reason why is that meditation/qigong is going to improve your overall health, and your genitals are simply a part of that.

 

Now, if you are concerned about your dick retracting like Buddha's supposedly did...that is only something that may allegedly happen at very high levels of attainment. Levels that frankly, most of us here will never reach. And if you do, you probably will be beyond the realm of sexual desire, anyways... So, you won't really give a fvck.

 

At lower levels though, I don't think that's remotely going to happen.

 

Of course, this is all assuming that you are cultivating while being celibate. Perhaps celibacy alone though might cause some temporary "shrinkage" or atrophy due to non-use?

Edited January 19, 2010 by vortex

[voidisyinyang]

Actually even after I was sitting in full-lotus in public I still experimented with the Mantak Chia "physical stimulation" methods that were being promoted here at taobums. I figured all these "retention" methods are in the vogue -- so maybe I could increase my energy levels as a sort of self-stimulation catalyst cycle through "massage" or whatever. I tried and tried but had to be honest -- this was the OPPOSITE of what I had been doing -- because any physical stimulation just causes creation of sex fluid.

 

So after I did that honest experimentation I realized that to successfully convert the sex fluid to chi-shen energy you had to 1) no physical stimulation and also sit in full-lotus 2) counteract all the thoughts about sex during the day from being hit on by male pervs, by females, etc. 3) eat as little food as possible and it should be vegetarian.

 

I'm still working on this last goal -- since the energy transmission through the pineal gland means you really have to be internally clean -- this is why qigong masters like Wang, Liping and Chunyi Lin and Yan Xin practice the "modified bigu diet" which means fast one day a week and eat one little veggie meal a day. But that also means that the rest of the time you are practicing qigong -- either a full 4 hour nonstop full-lotus session every night -- or some variation of that which is the equivalent.

 

About how long were you sitting in full-lotus to convert the sex fluid back to shen before you started doing full-lotus in public?