Taoist interpretation of morning wood.

[hajimesaito]

I did a quick search in this forum (and also in google) but couldn't find any thread dedicated to this topic. I know that according to tantra, during sleep men's throats and penises are stimulated (chakras that lie there) and as a result when men wake up early in the morning we have a heavier voice and an erection too. How do the Taoists interpret this? I have heard of old Taoists and internal martial artists being complimented for their ability to get morning erections even at very old age (90s).

 

 

I used to get the morning wood almost regularly a few months ago and have been getting it ever since my hormones became activated (I think). However, nowadays I am a bit more concerned because I neither get any morning erection nor do I get any instant stimulation and excitement from watching something sexy (a girl in a bikini for example!). What could be the problem? I do regular exercises but my day time is spent quite lazily nowadays. I am not much into masturbation either and have in fact stayed away from it for extended periods of time in my life (a few weeks or a month).

Edited February 19, 2010 by hajimesaito

[Gerard]

Why are you so worried about this. It is better being less yang as you are implying. Balance is the key. Monks meditate right away when they get an erection in the morning to cool of the rising yang in order to control sexual urges.

[三江源]

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Edited September 3, 2015 by 三江源

[hajimesaito]

Thanks for your responses, cat and durkhrod.

 

There is another thing that has been bugging me since a very long time. Usually there are two kinds of men. One who get easily aroused sexually after looking at something simple in the opposite sex. All boys when they are young also belong to this category because during that period when the hormones are just newly activated in the body, it is natural for guys to get stimulated (or get an erection, in other words) while just staring at a hot girl even if she doesn't reveal much. Then there are other guys who require extensive stimulus to get aroused. They don't get "lusty" so easily. All monks, celibates etc would come under this.

 

My question is: which among those two categories are better at love-making and can make any girl vouch for them? I know the that the Taoists have great control over their senses and cannot be seduced so easily. But I have also heard that they would make any girl extremely happy and satisfied if given a chance. Can't say the same about Buddhist monks though. If Pamela Anderson were to do pole-dance in front of an old Tai Chi master, would he be seduced?

And what about the men belonging to the first category? Would they be called perverts? And if true, it leads to another question. Is perversion inversely related to the sexual potential? In other words, would a guy who gets aroused easily after just looking at a hot girl walking by in a bikini be a better lover (in the bed) than the one who will be unmoved by such outward appearances?

 

I know these questions are quite weird; but then, that is what makes them interesting.

[Yuen Biao]

I know these questions are quite weird; but then, that is what makes them interesting.

 

I think you need to focus the mind elsewhere and not worry about matters such as this. Think of it as a waste of time to burden your mind with these thoughts!

 

I too get 'morning wood' absolutely everyday, always have and probably always will. I'll acknowledge it but then like 'durkhrod' suggests it is best to meditate and "cool off". I myself meditate every morning and this helps one check those desires and impulses etc.

[三江源]

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Edited September 3, 2015 by 三江源

[hajimesaito]

Yuen Biao,

 

 

You are right that I should focus my mind on more important things. And this is what I have always been doing. That is why I have rarely believed in watching porn or masturbating unlike other guys of my age for whom these things are a norm (I am 22). But my curiosity about that issue was not because I am myself having those personally. I just wanted to know more about how the control over senses (sex, lust etc) is related to the real love-making act. Its been more than two months that I have been practically a celibate - i.e away from any porn, masturbation or sexual thoughts.

 

Cat,

 

Your point regarding introverted and extroverted sexuality was quite interesting. As for your comment regarding rapid response sexuality, I was not hoping that it was of lower quality. On the contrary, from experience I believe that that should ideally lead to a higher quality than that of slower response. But contradictions come in the form of experienced grand masters of Chinese internal martial arts who have had several wives and who had kids even at the age when they should really not be in a good health to even walk properly.

 

 

In conclusion, I agree that the best way is to not think about such issues too much and let the natural instincts take over when the time comes.

[freeform]

There's no simple duality like you seem to think - life just doesn't work that way...

 

It's much more about compatibility than anything else... someone easily aroused might get on well with a woman who's similarly responsive... and conversely a man who takes longer to 'warm up' might get on better with a girl who does too - or it might work the other way round too

 

Popular culture likes the visual sense - TV, the internet, magazines and all kinds of adverts are all primarily visual - that's why you feel like you should be aroused by a visual stimulus... But you've been sold a lie - you have many other senses and you might find that stimulus from the tactile or auditory or even emotional kind might be your primary sense...

 

Women - in general are less sold on the visual stimulus... Of course their interest is piqued by an attractive person, but it's only part of the equation - your smell, voice, touch, attitude, level of 'presence', ability to bring out emotion, maintain sexual tension etc. are at least as important as what you look like...

 

I suggest that if you pay more attention to these things yourself, and look beyond surface appearances, you might find much more satisfaction in intimacy and relationships.

 

Relationships should be nourishing - surface appearances are rarely that nourishing - at least for some people... you may be the type of person that requires more substance from a girl... look for that in a girl, bring it out more in her and don't settle for anything less and you'll be attractive to the kind of girls that attract you.