Trash Filter Posted February 20, 2010 Now that the banks have become some what more centralised, the next thing to do is create a war with iran and US/Israel. There is a possibility China might provide the nukes for Iran, all these powerful people in total collusion behind the scenes.  Let's hope this is not what will happen, and if it does, try not to swallow everything you hear from the government and media. It's happened before, it may happen again  Check out Project Camelot for some interesting rumours.  Tao to you All SHARE THE KNOWLEDGE  TF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted February 20, 2010 Well, the UN nuclear investigators just a couple days ago suggested that Iran is further along with having nuclear warheads than anyone suspected. Â This would be a great threat for the US and Israel if it is true. Â Russia has finally come to the side of the US in its condemnation of Iran regarding its nuclear work. Â We'll see. Â Peace & Love! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted February 20, 2010 Iran is just the latest 'bogey man' for the west now that Saddam Hussein is no more. India, Pakistan and Israel all have working nuclear armaments - so why not disarm them? We invaded Iraq but not North Korea, Burma or Zimbabwe - where the human rights violations are as bad if not worse. There is a lot of spin going on - which will be (yet again) used to justify military action. Â Yours cynically, Â A. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted February 20, 2010 A logical glance, it seems to me that Iran was always the focal point of the entire 'axis of evil' designation in the first place. Iraq was the easy first target and was likely intended to put Iran on its heels, and NK always remained tethered to China's whims. But what's 'war' with Iran, er, 'them' being ostensibly the revolutionary guard. War with Iran would mean nothing more than airstrikes, the majority of the people dont want the feaux regime that's in power...nevermind the fact that they stole the last election. Of course, nobody does much to support the freedom of the people there...but its a much different situation and invading the country wouldnt make any sense in the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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gendao Posted February 20, 2010 (edited) Well, the UN nuclear investigators just a couple days ago suggested that Iran is further along with having nuclear warheads than anyone suspected. This would be a great threat for the US and Israel if it is true. Lol, Israel is an illegal land-squatter with ~200 nukes and a human rights atrocity who has admitted to using white phosphorus on and organ-harvesting Palestinians. So, why is that ok and are they not the threat? Reality is, the US attacked Iraq because they started selling their oil in non-USD currency (and possibly also to recover ancient stargate technology in their "hunt" for nonexistent WMDs). Now Iran has tried doing the same thing with their oil bourse, hence the US is ready to stop that too.  The reason being of course that the FRB has hijacked our money supply and replaced everything with inherently worthless fiat currency. The only thing backing it now is Mid East oil that must be sold in USD under OPEC rules. Pricing a global commodity in USD is what gives a universal value to USD. But if oil gets delinked from USD, then it could significantly correct itself and hyperinflate.  "Human rights" and "democracy" are just generic excuses the US uses to justify invasions whenever they can find no better ones. For example, the US constantly chides China for human rights abuses. Yet, we actively fund Israel, which is a modern-day ethnic apartheid. And as has been noted, there are even faaaarrr worse human rights hellholes in this world too (like much of Africa). 70% of Liberian women have been raped, for example. But, when was the last time you saw the US lecturing them on human rights? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYUueJTw2po Same type of tribal warfare sh*t going on here as in Darfur, but with no political angle to exploit, they don't give a f***.  Of course, 99& of Americans are simply not smart enough to understand the realpolitik underlying the mass propaganda so will never see past the thin facade covering up reality called their TV screens. Edited February 20, 2010 by vortex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted February 20, 2010 Hi Vortex, Â WoW! You got fired up! Hehehe. Â Well, just from a personal point of view, I don't have a problem with Israel have nukes but I would if Iran had some. Â But why would any nation want to send their troops to sub-Sahara Africa to save anyone? There is nothing of value to be saved. I know this sounds harsh but that is reality. Yes, the area is extremely over-populated considering the lack of resources. Â You know it's all about money. That should not be doubted. Â But eventually there will be no more oil then nations will have to find another reason to have wars. Â Peace & Love! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idquest Posted February 21, 2010 Back to the original post, the level of brainwashing is astounding. The majority of americans still believe that Saddam Hussein took part in 9-11. I would agree with the original post that the new wave of brainwashing related to Iran has been rising recently. Might not end well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest paul walter Posted February 21, 2010 Back to the original post, the level of brainwashing is astounding. The majority of americans still believe that Saddam Hussein took part in 9-11. I would agree with the original post that the new wave of brainwashing related to Iran has been rising recently. Might not end well. Â Â Â The article 'The Origins of World War 3' by Andrew Gavin Marshall should explain it all-foreground and background- and at the same time perhaps give no hope of anything but the inevitable happening? It can be read at:My link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted February 21, 2010 The majority of americans still believe that Saddam Hussein took part in 9-11. Â I don't know if I would say 'the majority' but indeed there are many who believe this. And that is truely sad. Â But I am not convinced that anyone wants a WWIII. There would be no point; it would lead to the probable extinction of humanity or the rendering of the earth to not being able to support any life. Â I really cannot even foresee the use of nuclear weapons except perhaps by terrorists if they can get their hand on some. And this is why I am concerned with the possibility of Iran getting nuclear weapons. It is well known that they (the government) supports terrorism against Israel and the West. Â Peace & Love! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gendao Posted February 21, 2010 Back to the original post, the level of brainwashing is astounding. The majority of americans still believe that Saddam Hussein took part in 9-11.The vast majority of Americans also believe that Osama bin Laden took part in 9II. However, there has never been any evidence of that and he never claimed credit for it, either. Ever wonder why the FBI has never formally charged him for it??? Â The only crimes the FBI has charged him for are some overseas attacks: USAMA BIN LADEN IS WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE AUGUST 7, 1998, BOMBINGS OF THE UNITED STATES EMBASSIES IN DAR ES SALAAM, TANZANIA, AND NAIROBI, KENYA. THESE ATTACKS KILLED OVER 200 PEOPLE. IN ADDITION, BIN LADEN IS A SUSPECT IN OTHER TERRORIST ATTACKS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.More than likely, OBL is merely a paid spook who played his CIA-scripted part to justify the US invasion of Iraq. And now that that's happened, he is no longer needed and Obama has officially retracted the kill order for him (that never actually existed, anyways). Â The vast majority of Americans also believe that "Al Queda" ("The Base") is a giant terrorist network that took part in 9II. Thing is, none of these American "beliefs" have ever been proven - simply telecasted over the mass media as if they were. But which is more than enough to create the illusion of truth for most Americans today. For whom TV propaganda = fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idquest Posted February 21, 2010 I would agree that it is unlikely that techically sophisticated and professionally impeccable (if we can use such kind of adjectives in this case) 9-11 was planned and implemented from Afghanistan caves. So who were behind the attackers? The same guys who killed Kennedy (that was never solved, wasn't it)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest paul walter Posted February 21, 2010 Â Thing is, none of these American "beliefs" have ever been proven - simply telecasted over the mass media as if they were. But which is more than enough to create the illusion of truth for most Americans today. For whom TV propaganda = fact. Â Â When 'The Power of Nightmares' was screened on Australian t.v. they made sure they completely nullified the effect by screening a two part official line doco in 'answer' to it. Would be an intersting situation if they applied the same principle to state/corporate propaghanda. As long as we have sense perception and the media we will never get the full story--best just to observe and take a step back, meditate on things, learn to trust yourself and learn that way. Paul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gendao Posted February 22, 2010 When 'The Power of Nightmares' was screened on Australian t.v. they made sure they completely nullified the effect by screening a two part official line doco in 'answer' to it. Would be an intersting situation if they applied the same principle to state/corporate propaghanda. As long as we have sense perception and the media we will never get the full story--best just to observe and take a step back, meditate on things, learn to trust yourself and learn that way. Paul.At least they even showed it there... It was totally banned off the airwaves in the US. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest paul walter Posted February 22, 2010 At least they even showed it there... Â It was totally banned off the airwaves in the US. Â Â Yeah, I understand but the world is such now with the media 'running the show' that it may have had more impact if it wasn't screened! What happens is the three part (three parts!-these guys are extremists, why they pushing their obviously loaded agenda so hard!! ) series with its non-'mainstream' view looks weird next to the traditional two part in-depth rehash of all the knowledge we've come to know and love. One looks like it's peddling an agenda and the other simply confirms our educated base of prejudices and received 'knowledge'. There was of course no 'outcome' from screening it here even though this governments hands are as filthy with blood and oil as all the rest--I know in the UK there were problems but that's it's point of origin and you got to squash something before it gets out so there will be the inevitable initial bumps on that road of suppression. The UK media/tv often get this sort of problem--that's why they've developed libel law into a fine art. At least if it wasn't screened in the way it was here there may have been some mystique surrounding this show that purportedly blew the lid on Terrorism Inc. and we could have lived in hope that something was out there that told the 'real' story. As it is we (those who watched it) can now be more confused than ever cause of the way things get edited together and cancelled in the brain from the whole pro/contra info overload. Human social life is based on dichotomies and conflict so playing on that by presenting 'two' sides is the classic way to polarise the viewer-nothing is resolved. Watch any current affairs/political 'debate' or discussion and they will employ this strategy. Unless of course if it is important to the furtherence of 'their' power-then it's just moral righteousness with NO 'debate' that gets pushed through. The precious 'democracy' of multiple voices suddenly vanishes at such times. Paul Share this post Link to post Share on other sites