retention contest

[gj551]

hello fellows

 

im somewhat down because last night i had a nocturnal emission after practising retention for 53 days

 

how long did you manage to not let it happen?

[ralis]

hello fellows

 

im somewhat down because last night i had a nocturnal emission after practising retention for 53 days

 

how long did you manage to not let it happen?

 

Are you having feelings feelings of guilt and remorse?

 

Contest? How about seeing how short of a time period to not retain! :lol: This retention business is turning into fanaticism! Always a reaction to the opposite extreme!

 

 

ralis

Edited February 25, 2010 by ralis

[That Guy]

When I think of the tao bums masturbation and ejaculation are two of the things that come to mind, I must say this is a very hot topic around here

 

Dare I ask this.....

 

What exactly should one do whilst not masturbating and ejaculating?

inb4 Just sit in full lotus jk drew

 

And what are the effects of this YOU KNOW are real? (e.g "Well I saw my master not masturbate for 6 months, and then he was able to shoot laser beams out his eyes!", ok maybe your stories wont seem as cool but share anyway)

 

And what the heck, what do your texts says about the effects of not ejaculating for a long time?

[RyanO]

Aw c'mon guys, give him a break.

 

53 days is great. My last effort was right around there too. Never done the full 100. Maybe when I'm older...

 

I hope the NE was lucid!

[Sloppy Zhang]

So by retention you all mean having sex/masturbating but not ejaculating, right?

 

53 days isn't bad I guess, if you are constantly on edge.... unless you are doing something different.

[RyanO]

The terminology can get confusing. Strictly speaking, retention means exactly as you say, retaining semen while engaging in sexual practices.

 

True celibate periods however require not just no ejaculation but no sex/masturbation/lust of any kind.

 

It is convenient to use 'retention' as shorthand for any period of non-ejaculation regardless of sexual activity or lack thereof, so sometimes clarification is necessary.

 

To that end, gj551: Were you having sex or masturbating during this period?

[Aetherous]

If you have nocturnal emissions, it means you need to do more spiritual practices, not retain more.

[Lucky7Strikes]

When I think of the tao bums masturbation and ejaculation are two of the things that come to mind, I must say this is a very hot topic around here

 

Dare I ask this.....

 

What exactly should one do whilst not masturbating and ejaculating?

inb4 Just sit in full lotus jk drew

 

And what are the effects of this YOU KNOW are real? (e.g "Well I saw my master not masturbate for 6 months, and then he was able to shoot laser beams out his eyes!", ok maybe your stories wont seem as cool but share anyway)

 

And what the heck, what do your texts says about the effects of not ejaculating for a long time?

You blow up. .

[Eric23]

 

 

I'm out!! Last night

Edited February 26, 2010 by Eric23

[gj551]

what do your texts says about the effects of not ejaculating for a long time?

there is thing which mister luk calls the mysterious gate (hsuan kuan), that is, after gathering the generative force and turning the mco for some time a light appears ("seeing it will relieve you of all concern")

Are you having feelings feelings of guilt and remorse?

a friend of mine burned himself with a lighter to have a constant reminder

What exactly should one do whilst not masturbating and ejaculating?

uhm get a life that does not revolve around instant gratification

I hope the NE was lucid!

it wasnt i used it as skin moistener

So by retention you all mean having sex/masturbating but not ejaculating, right?

i did not touch it but that day i used a lot of caffeine

If you have nocturnal emissions, it means you need to do more spiritual practices, not retain more.

yeah well i turned the mco all day like when riding on the bus or in class or at home

This retention business is turning into fanaticism!

Edited February 26, 2010 by gj551

[Spectrum]

("seeing it will relieve you of all concern")

[Trunk]

Even birds' wings cycle through yin~yang.

 

[Vajrasattva]

If you have nocturnal emissions, it means you need to do more spiritual practices, not retain more.

 

 

exactly.

 

retaining and not knowing how to transmute or sublimate sexual energy is simply stupid and unhealthy.

 

peace

s

[buscon]

Retention should be about spirital advancement, that is not just a quantitative matter but especially a qualitative matter. You have to learn about yourself, how to handle your feelings, your body.

Merely being able not to ejaculate for x time means nothing, and can be even harmful. It's part of the overall technique, but there are so many things to balance in our life...

 

So "Retention contest" makes no sense at all for me

I'd rather smt like "Staying in the middle" or "Swinging in the center"

 

Cheers

[Sloppy Zhang]

exactly.

 

retaining and not knowing how to transmute or sublimate sexual energy is simply stupid and unhealthy.

 

peace

s

 

I dunno, there are guys who pay a dominatrix hundreds of dollars to have their junk locked up and be teased and all that- sometimes not getting a "release" for a year...

 

Maybe we should hired a dominatrix for the taobums.... you know, strictly for spirituality, of course....

[Aetherous]

Merely being able not to ejaculate for x time means nothing

 

Totally agreed.

[Trunk]

So glad that we have a increasing % of knowledgable assessment. Really important topic. Of course, what people keep referring to is focus on increasing harmony, not some pre-conceived goals. If you increase harmony, maybe some of those will be realized - to some degree - but usually not in the way that you suspected and with a richer more complex mix of life.

 

Watch out, specifically, for jing gong methods that increase heat throughout your sexual cycle, that introduce a jaggedness to your sine wave:

 

 

It's fun at first, but in the longer run spells t-r-o-u-b-l-e.

 

You want to look for methods that smooth your cycle and increase your skill at going into the yin (cool, unaroused, resting restorative) arc when you want to. (We all already know that the aroused part is fun, and how to get there.)

[Pietro]

Retention should be about spirital advancement, that is not just a quantitative matter but especially a qualitative matter. You have to learn about yourself, how to handle your feelings, your body.

Merely being able not to ejaculate for x time means nothing, and can be even harmful. It's part of the overall technique, but there are so many things to balance in our life...

 

So "Retention contest" makes no sense at all for me

I'd rather smt like "Staying in the middle" or "Swinging in the center"

 

Cheers

 

 

:-)

 

in the mountain of himalaya the monks practice.

They practice to bring the energy down the central channel, reach the dan tien and warm them

they practice by having a wet blanked laid on them.

Once the blanket is dry they take it off and take a new one.

The dry blanket are laid one over the other on a pile on the side.

At the end of the day the monk with the highest pile has won the game.

 

 

be light

have fun

it's all in good spirit

:-D

[Birch]

Oh wow! Seinfeld references even!

 

Just for vague competitiveness, I've already gone 18 months nothing at all. How's that for a "dry spell" But I'd never would have thunk it that it was a big deal Maybe I ought to start considering this stuff otherwise?

 

Love, affection and eum, I guess that would be "my problem" with "retention".

[Dreamingawake]

@Eric

 

LMAO that's the first thing I thought of when I saw the thread title!! I was gonna post that same video but you beat me to it!

[Mal]

Retention "contest"

+

Just for vague competitiveness, I've already gone 18 months nothing at all.

=

 

 

I was actually looking for a funny pic along the lines of "girl's cheat" but all the hits I was getting were not quite what I was intending to search for

[Mal]

and this was on TV last night - bolds mine

 

The research, on how porn affects people's work, finances and relationships, is being led by Dr Gomathi Sitharthan at the University of Sydney's Graduate Program in Sexual Health.

 

"Viewing porn online becomes a major problem only when people become so preoccupied that they spend 16 to 18 hours a day doing nothing else but watching porn, with serious impacts on relationships, work, studies, and finance," Sitharthan said.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/lifestyle/sex-relationships/online-porn-study-reveals-social-impact/story-e6frf01i-1225828814961

 

Only becomes a problem when you spend 16 hrs a DAY

 

WTF !!! I'm definitely underachieving

 

[Iyoiyo]

I wouldn't let it get you down, man. I for one have never seen the relevance of this whole retention culture to spirituality. Nor do I need it explained in depth to me, thanks all the same though hehe.

[RyanO]

and this was on TV last night - bolds mine

 

 

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/lifestyle/sex-relationships/online-porn-study-reveals-social-impact/story-e6frf01i-1225828814961

 

Only becomes a problem when you spend 16 hrs a DAY

 

WTF !!! I'm definitely underachieving

 

 

16 hours?!!! And I thought I was bad

[Dreamingawake]

that guy must look like popey. Giant forearms and blind in one eye