India's Top Guru is Fake Perv

[DalTheJigsaw123]

Very good thread!

Thank you!

[Martial Development]

I don't know much about Sai Baba, but I remember the outline of a funny expose I read about him years ago. A reporter went undercover as a spiritual seeker. Sai Baba gave him a "special" and "personal" mantra to practice, with the instruction that is was not to be shared.

 

The reporter decided to share the mantra regardless, and then found that other people had been given the exact same story. He felt cheated--but who cheated who?

 

Did the seeker believe that he was special? Is it Sai Baba's fault that the seeker was only as special as everyone else, that is to say, not special at all?

 

And who sets the rules for how spiritual teachers should conduct themselves (among consenting adults), anyway? Is it Hollywood? The Vatican? Congress?

[voidisyinyang]

I don't know much about Sai Baba, but I remember the outline of a funny expose I read about him years ago. A reporter went undercover as a spiritual seeker. Sai Baba gave him a "special" and "personal" mantra to practice, with the instruction that is was not to be shared.

 

The reporter decided to share the mantra regardless, and then found that other people had been given the exact same story. He felt cheated--but who cheated who?

 

Did the seeker believe that he was special? Is it Sai Baba's fault that the seeker was only as special as everyone else, that is to say, not special at all?

 

And who sets the rules for how spiritual teachers should conduct themselves (among consenting adults), anyway? Is it Hollywood? The Vatican? Congress?

 

Speaking of "chatting to God" -- some people are better at it than others according to these Christians:

 

http://cognitionandculture.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=575&catid=69&Itemid=84

 

Christian absorption using mantras?

[Owledge]

Speaking of "chatting to God" -- some people are better at it than others according to these Christians:

 

http://cognitionandculture.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=575&catid=69&Itemid=84

 

Christian absorption using mantras?

 

I'll throw in some off-topic, nice-to-know info here...

 

Didn't feel comfortable reading the above link, because my PeerBlock reported a connection attempt to "COPYRIGHT-AGENCY.COM/Co-Peer-Right Agency".

... Fascinating tool it is.

Edited March 16, 2010 by Hardyg

[voidisyinyang]

I'll throw in some off-topic, nice-to-know info here...

 

Didn't feel comfortable reading the above link, because my PeerBlock reported a connection attempt to "COPYRIGHT-AGENCY.COM/Co-Peer-Right Agency".

... Fascinating tool it is.

 

Yes property law is a kind of redundant phrase

 

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/314/7088/1145/b

 

Here you go:

 

http://www.patentmantra.com/

 

http://ninjacloak.com/

 

sounds like a more appropriate Taoist web tool for you.

Edited March 16, 2010 by drewhempel

[Lao Sun Tao]

Although Haraldsson admits that he cannot prove conclusively

that Sai Baba's productions are not the result of deception and sleight of

hand, he offers a large amount of evidence that strongly suggests

something supernormal is taking place.

 

For starters, Sai Baba can materialize specific objects on request.

Once when Haraldsson was having a conversation with him about

spiritual and ethical issues, Sai Baba said that daiiy life and spiritual life

should "grow together like a double rudraksha." When Haraldsson

asked what a double rudraksha was, neither Sai Baba nor the interpreter

knew the English equivalent of the term. Sai Baba tried to continue with

the diseussion, but Haraldsson remained insistent. "Then suddenly, with

a sign of impatience, Sai Baba closed his list and waved his hand for a

second or two. As he opened it, he turned to me and said: 'This is it.' In

his palm was an acorn-like object. This was two rudrakshas grown

together like a twin orange or a twin apple," says Haraldsson.

 

When Haraldsson indicated that he wanted to keep the double-seed as

a memento, Sai Baba agreed, but first asked to see it again. "He enclosed

the rudraksha in both his hands, blew on it, and opened his hands toward

me. The double rudraksha was now covered, on the top and bottom, by

two golden shields held together by a short golden chain. On the top was

a golden cross with a small ruby affixed to it, and a tiny opening so that

it could hang on a chain around the neck." 58 Haraldsson later discovered

that double rudrakshas were extremely rare botanical anomalies. Several

Indian botanists he consulted said they had never even seen one, and

when he finally found a small, malformed specimen in a shop in Madras,

the shopkeeper wanted the Indian equivalent of almost three hundred

dollars for it. A London goldsmith confirmed that the gold in the

ornamentation had a purity of at least twenty -two carats.

 

 

Taken from The Holographic Universe

 

Thoughts?

 

 

[Taoist Texts]

Thoughts?

Lies.

[dwai]

 

Although Haraldsson admits that he cannot prove conclusively 
that Sai Baba's productions are not the result of deception and sleight of 
hand, he offers a large amount of evidence that strongly suggests 
something supernormal is taking place. 

For starters, Sai Baba can materialize specific objects on request. 
Once when Haraldsson was having a conversation with him about 
spiritual and ethical issues, Sai Baba said that daiiy life and spiritual life 
should "grow together like a double rudraksha." When Haraldsson 
asked what a double rudraksha was, neither Sai Baba nor the interpreter 
knew the English equivalent of the term. Sai Baba tried to continue with 
the diseussion, but Haraldsson remained insistent. "Then suddenly, with 
a sign of impatience, Sai Baba closed his list and waved his hand for a 
second or two. As he opened it, he turned to me and said: 'This is it.' In 
his palm was an acorn-like object. This was two rudrakshas grown 
together like a twin orange or a twin apple," says Haraldsson. 

When Haraldsson indicated that he wanted to keep the double-seed as 
a memento, Sai Baba agreed, but first asked to see it again. "He enclosed 
the rudraksha in both his hands, blew on it, and opened his hands toward 
me. The double rudraksha was now covered, on the top and bottom, by 
two golden shields held together by a short golden chain. On the top was 
a golden cross with a small ruby affixed to it, and a tiny opening so that 
it could hang on a chain around the neck." 58 Haraldsson later discovered 
that double rudrakshas were extremely rare botanical anomalies. Several 
Indian botanists he consulted said they had never even seen one, and 
when he finally found a small, malformed specimen in a shop in Madras, 
the shopkeeper wanted the Indian equivalent of almost three hundred 
dollars for it. A London goldsmith confirmed that the gold in the 
ornamentation had a purity of at least twenty -two carats. 


Taken from The Holographic Universe

Thoughts?

He was legit, though much maligned for his popularity...which didn't diminish one bit ( even now)...

 

There has been a conspiracy against Hindu gurus in both Indian as well as western media. In India it is fashionable to browbeat Hinduism and its gurus for all of India's troubles. Doing so gives these morons "secular-liberal" street cred. Which gives them legitimacy with the west.

[smilingone]

Sai Baba was actually the real deal. Due to immaturity and jealously people spoke out against him trying the get rid of him which obviously never worked.

 

All great beings have people say bad things about them. Look at history. Didn't Jesus get crusified?

[Nungali]

 

 

 ... and I believe the word is 'crushified' 

 

[Daemon]

On 03/03/2010 at 4:31 PM, Mark Foote said:

I'm a fan of the Gospel of Thomas (and of Mary)

 

I find the Gospel of Mary the most insightful myself, perhaps because Mary highlights the ultimate dead end of these patriarchal paths.

 

☮️

 

Edited July 28, 2018 by Daemon