Oleg Galkin

Taoism and Heavy Metal Music

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just tell us how you really feel, bob. :P lol

...

 

Again? Ok:

Music that is like a consuming swarm of locusts and which draws on twisted types of power from the abyss has nothing to do with the ways of Tao or Purity and kindness of Spirit, granted it does have a certain hypnotic (such as head banging) fascination to it until its demonic motive and hunger is really seen, known and felt for what it is... (and by then it may be to late for several karmic go arounds, since forfeiting out to such a piper enables it to exact a certain price, and there is nothing sophisticated, artisic, mystical, wise or of balanced mind and emotion in falling for that which can be likened to an "underwater mortage" of one's lifeforce and humanity)

 

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More Maiden listen!

 

Pay attention!

 

Believe in me - send no money

Died on the cross, that ain't funny

But my so called friends they're making me a joke

They missed out what I said like I never spoke

They choose what they wanna hear - don't tell a lie

They just leave out the truth as they're watching you die

Saving your soul by taking your money

Flies around shit, bees around honey

 

Chorus

 

Holy Smoke Holy Smoke, plenty bad preachers for

The Devil to stoke

Feed'em in feet first this is no joke

This is thirsty work making Holy Smoke

Making Holy Smoke

 

Jimmy Reptile and all his friends

Say their gonna be with you at the end

Burning records burning books

Holy soldiers, Nazi looks

Crocodile smiles, just wait a while

Till the TV queen gets her make-up clean

I've lived in filth, I've lived in sin

And I still smell cleaner than the shit you're in

 

Repeat chorus

 

Holy Smoke - smells good

 

They ain't religious but they ain't no fools

When Noah built his Cadillac it was cool

Two by two they're still going down

And the satellite circus just left town

I think they're strange and when they're dead

They can have a Lincoln for their bed

Friend of the president trick of the tail

Now they ain't got a prayer 100 years in jail

 

Repeat chorus

 

Holy Smoke - hah

 

 

 

 

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Our own Vajrasattva, Santiago, is the lead guitarist for a metal band, Aghora. They are getting ready to release their third CD. He sent me a couple of the new tracks to review. They are awesome. Santi is a tantric yogi and he does place empowerments and transmissions in the music.

 

 

 

Santi Rocks!

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I always wonder which attitude have Taoists towards heavy metal music? Do you consider it disturbing for a mind? Or metal is quite the contrary - thing that helps you to get rid of the negative energy and emotions?

 

too much chaos is not good for stillness...

Meditation is to bring about stillness...which is the opposite of what Heavy Metal is all about.

Things/factors that affect me in my practice because of which I don't listen to much music are:

 

1) if music is aggressive, it increases heat in the body and thereby agitating the mind.

2) if there is a specific riff or piece of music that gets "into" my ear, then it keeps playing over and over, and distracts during meditation (for instance, the song titled "Home" in Dream Theater's Scenes from a Memory -- Metropolis II album)

 

 

I like this better:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxyaWdBphls&feature=related

 

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okay this is definitely not heavy metal, but this song always gives me a good feeling... PEEP GAME!

 

edit: okay i don't know how to make the video magically appear in the post... my chi isn't cultivated enough, but here's the link to a good song:

enjoy!

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I always wonder which attitude have Taoists towards heavy metal music? Do you consider it disturbing for a mind? Or metal is quite the contrary - thing that helps you to get rid of the negative energy and emotions?

 

Ask this Taoist hermit what he thinks about the "music" you trying to champion in this thread:

 

 

The only music he knows is the sound of the Nature.

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I am in my 50's and I played in a metal band all last year until February of this year but taking a break right now. I don't like to listen to the stuff but it is quite fun to play (weird huh?). Usually when I listen to music it is native flute music.

 

It is chaotic but the key to staying in harmony is to kind of ride it like a wave, kinda like a surfer.

 

 

Compliments! You are a true Rock!!!!!!!!

 

"It is chaotic but the key to staying in harmony is to kind of ride it like a wave, kinda like a surfer."

 

thanks! it'a a true gem!

 

Best regards,

 

Gigi.

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Ask this Taoist hermit what he thinks about the "music" you trying to champion in this thread

 

 

 

Thanks Durkhrod!

I will surely study these! I feel you on this.

 

I would like to ask him how he feels about oil slicks, floods, tornadoes, homeland security, street gangs , Illinois politics, jim baker, jimmy swaggart, kenneth copeland and appiling the tao to the everyday lives of the taxpaying common folk in the good ol' U.S. of A

 

hum...

 

What would Frank do?

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=MUAOGt7FmM0

 

Whoever we are

Wherever we're from

We shoulda noticed by now

Our behavior is dumb

And if our chances

Expect to improve

It's gonna take a lot more

Than tryin' to remove

The other race

Or the other whatever

From the face

Of the planet altogether

 

They call it THE EARTH

Which is a dumb kinda name

But they named it right

'Cause we behave the same...

We are dumb all over

Dumb all over,

Yes we are

Dumb all over,

Near 'n far

Dumb all over,

Black 'n white

People, we is not wrapped tight

 

Nurds on the left

Nurds on the right

Religous fanatics

On the air every night

Sayin' the Bible

Tells the story

Makes the details

Sound real gory

'Bout what to do

If the geeks over there

Don't believe in the book

We got over here

 

You can't run a race

Without no feet

'N pretty soon

There won't be no street

For dummies to jog on

Or doggies to dog on

Religous fanatics

Can make it be all gone

(I mean it won't blow up

'N disappear

It'll just look ugly

For a thousand years...)

 

You can't run a country

By a book of religion

Not by a heap

Or a lump or a smidgeon

Of foolish rules

Of ancient date

Designed to make

You all feel great

While you fold, spindle

And mutilate

Those unbelievers

From a neighboring state

 

TO ARMS! TO ARMS!

Hooray! That's great

Two legs ain't bad

Unless there's a crate

They ship the parts

To mama in

For souvenirs: two ears (Get Down!)

Not his, not hers, (but what the hey?)

The Good Book says:

("It gotta be that way!")

But their book says:

"REVENGE THE CRUSADES...

With whips 'n chains

'N hand grenades..."

TWO ARMS? TWO ARMS?

Have another and another

Our God says:

"There ain't no other!"

Our God says

"It's all okay!"

Our God says

"This is the way!"

 

It says in the book:

"Burn 'n destroy...

'N repent, 'n redeem

'N revenge, 'n deploy

'N rumble thee forth

To the land of the unbelieving scum on the other side

'Cause they don't go for what's in the book

'N that makes 'em BAD

So verily we must choppeth them up

And stompeth them down

Or rent a nice French bomb

To poof them out of existance

While leaving their real estate just where we need it

To use again

For temples in which to praise OUR GOD

("Cause he can really take care of business!")

 

And when his humble TV servant

With humble white hair

And humble glasses

And a nice brown suit

And maybe a blond wife who takes phone calls

Tells us our God says

It's okay to do this stuff

Then we gotta do it,

'Cause if we don't do it,

We ain't gwine up to hebbin!

(Depending on which book you're using at the

time...Can't use theirs... it don't work

...it's all lies...Gotta use mine...)

Ain't that right?

That's what they say

Every night...

Every day...

Hey, we can't really be dumb

If we're just following God's Orders

Hey, let's get serious...

God knows what he's doin'

He wrote this book here

An' the book says:

He made us all to be just like Him,"

so...

If we're dumb...

Then God is dumb...

(An' maybe even a little ugly on the side)

 

And if these words you do not heed

 

Your pocketbook just kinda might recede

 

When some man comes along and

 

claims godly need

 

He will clean you out right through your

 

tweed

 

 

 

That's right, remember there is a big

 

difference between kneeling down

 

and bending over...

 

He's got twenty million dollars

 

In his Heavenly Bank Account...

 

All from those chumps who was

 

Born again

 

Oh yeah, oh yeah

 

 

 

He's got seven limousines

 

And a private plane...

 

All for the use of his

 

Special Friends

 

Oh yeah, oh yeah

 

He's got thousand-dollar suits

 

And a Wembley Tie...

 

Girls love to stroke it

 

While he's on the phone

 

Oh yeah, oh yeah

 

 

 

At the House of Representatives

 

He's a groovy guy...

 

When he Gives Thanks

 

He is not alone...

 

 

 

He is dealin'

 

He is really dealin'

 

IRS Can't determine

 

Where The Hook is

 

 

 

It is easy with the Bible

 

To pretend that

 

You're in Show Biz

 

 

 

They won't get him

 

They will never get him

 

For the naughty stuff

 

That he did

 

 

 

It is best in cases like this

 

To pretend that

 

You are stupid

 

 

 

He's got Presidential Help

 

All along the way

 

 

 

He says the grace

 

While the lawyers chew

 

Oh yeah

 

They sure do

 

 

 

And the Govenors agree to say:

 

"He's a lovely man!"

 

He makes it easier for

 

Them to screw

 

All of you...

 

Yes, that's true!

 

 

 

'Cause he helps put The Fear of God

 

In the Common Man

 

Snatchin' up money

 

Everywhere he can

 

Oh yeah

 

Oh yeah

 

 

 

He's got twenty million dollars

 

In his Heavenly Bank Account

 

You ain't got nothin', people

 

You ain't got nothin', people

 

You ain't got nothin', people

 

Thank the man...oh yeah

 

And if these words you do not heed

 

Your pocketbook just kinda might recede

 

When some man comes along and

 

claims godly need

 

He will clean you out right through your

 

tweed

 

 

 

That's right, remember there is a big

 

difference between kneeling down

 

and bending over...

 

He's got twenty million dollars

 

In his Heavenly Bank Account...

 

All from those chumps who was

 

Born again

 

Oh yeah, oh yeah

 

 

 

He's got seven limousines

 

And a private plane...

 

All for the use of his

 

Special Friends

 

Oh yeah, oh yeah

 

He's got thousand-dollar suits

 

And a Wembley Tie...

 

Girls love to stroke it

 

While he's on the phone

 

Oh yeah, oh yeah

 

 

 

At the House of Representatives

 

He's a groovy guy...

 

When he Gives Thanks

 

He is not alone...

 

 

 

He is dealin'

 

He is really dealin'

 

IRS Can't determine

 

Where The Hook is

 

 

 

It is easy with the Bible

 

To pretend that

 

You're in Show Biz

 

 

 

They won't get him

 

They will never get him

 

For the naughty stuff

 

That he did

 

 

 

It is best in cases like this

 

To pretend that

 

You are stupid

 

 

 

He's got Presidential Help

 

All along the way

 

 

 

He says the grace

 

While the lawyers chew

 

Oh yeah

 

They sure do

 

 

 

And the Govenors agree to say:

 

"He's a lovely man!"

 

He makes it easier for

 

Them to screw

 

All of you...

 

Yes, that's true!

 

 

 

'Cause he helps put The Fear of God

 

In the Common Man

 

Snatchin' up money

 

Everywhere he can

 

Oh yeah

 

Oh yeah

 

 

 

He's got twenty million dollars

 

In his Heavenly Bank Account

 

You ain't got nothin', people

 

You ain't got nothin', people

 

You ain't got nothin', people

 

Thank the man...oh yeah

 

 

Championing?

 

Try old school Education!

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This should activate everyone's erector pili !

 

 

"This is a cover of the song by Black Sabbath, but the original lyrics are replaced by words of protest by Chief Seattle, also known as Sealth, Seathle, Seathl, or See-ahth.

 

He was a leader of the Suquamish and Duwamish Native American tribes in what is now the U.S. state of Washington."

 

 

How can you buy or sell the sky

Or the warmth of the land it's strange to us

We don't own the freshness of the air

Or the sparkle of the water

How can you buy them from us

The white man doesn't understand our ways

For he's a stranger who comes in the night

And takes from the land just what he needs

 

Oh yeah

 

He treats his brothers like his enemies

When it's completed he moves on

He leaves his father's grave and his birthright

His birthright is forgotten

 

The air is precious to the red man

For all things share the same breath

The white man won't notice the air he breathes

Like a man dying for many days

 

All right now

 

The whites must treat the beasts of his land

As his brothers not his enemies

Tell me what is man without the beasts

I'll bet he will die of loneliness

 

One thing we know that the white man will

We know our god is the same god

You may think you wish to own him

Own him as you wish to own our land

But he is the body of man

And the earth is precious to him

Continue to contaminate your bed

And you will suffocate in your waste

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Personally, I find metal can be quite helpful when working with kundalini. The good stuff can really clean and clear out the emotional bodies.

 

Our own Vajrasattva, Santiago, is the lead guitarist for a metal band, Aghora. They are getting ready to release their third CD. He sent me a couple of the new tracks to review. They are awesome. Santi is a tantric yogi and he does place empowerments and transmissions in the music.

 

 

Santi is the one with the real long hair. Santi is also a session musician/producer.

 

When my kundalini was starting to rise I liked the Lords of Acid. Works well with the opening of the lower chakras.

 

 

:)

s

 

Wow. Thank you for the new bands. I appreciate it!

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I am in my 50's and I played in a metal band all last year until February of this year but taking a break right now. I don't like to listen to the stuff but it is quite fun to play (weird huh?). Usually when I listen to music it is native flute music.

 

It is chaotic but the key to staying in harmony is to kind of ride it like a wave, kinda like a surfer.

That's kinda how I see it :lol: I dont listen to much of it anymore, my head is mostly buried in my own music. Its impossible to find a good metal singer, too. What the hell makes them come up with the words they do is beyond me!

 

Usually the vocals sound just like another instrument to me and the words barely ever reveal themselves. Making a guitar sing, though...now there's something special.

 

that cross dresser was sloppy :lol:

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Amazing how many of you like heavy metal!

Ive never liked it,but something like this

 

might have come nearest to it.

or this

 

anyways nice music vibe going on in the thread

 

 

Rollins rocks hard!

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8. Learning To Live DREAM THEATER

 

[images: Dream Theater]

[Words: Myung]

 

There was no time for pain

No energy for anger

The sightlessness of hatred

slips away

Walking through winter streets

alone

He stops and take a breath

With confidence and self-

control

 

I look at the world and see no

understanding

I'm waiting to find some sense

of strength

I'm begging you from the

bottom of my heart to show

me understanding

 

I need to live life

Like some people never will

So find me kindness

Find me beauty

Find me truth

When temptation brings me to

my knees

And I lay here drained of

strength

Show me kindness

Show me beauty

Show me truth

 

The way your heart sounds

makes all the difference

It's what decides if you'll endure

the pain that we all feel

The way your heart beats

makes all the difference

In learning to live

Here before me is my soul

I'm learning to live

I won't give up

Till I've no more to give

 

Listening to the city

Whispering its violence

I set out watching from above

The 90s bring new questions

New solutions to be found

I fell in love to be let down

 

Once again we dance in the

crowd

At times a step away

From a common fear that's all

spread out

It won't listen to what you say

Once you're touched you stand

alone

To face the bitter fight

Once I reached for love

And now I reach for life

 

Another chance to lift my life

Free the sensation in my heart

To ride the wings of dreams

into changing horizons

It brings inner peace within my

mind,

As I'm lifted from where I've

spilt my life

I hear an innocent voice

I hear kindness, beauty and

truth

 

The way your heart sounds

makes all the difference

It's what decides if you'll endure

the pain that we all feel

The way your heart beats

makes all the difference

In learning to live

Spread before you is your soul

So forever hold the dreams

within our hearts

Through nature's inflexible

grace

I'm learning to live

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What a great thread! I am still enjoying my metal music and I am in my 50th yr of Earth Life!!! I remember my Mum telling me when I was 17 I'd grow out of it!!! OOPS!!! Sorry Mum, I'm still going strong! One of top 5 all time bands are Magnum who hail from Birmingham in the UK, they are not metal, but progressive/pomp rock; the songwriter is the very talented Tony Clarkin. They have been around for at least 30 yrs, and here is a cracking song by the guys

 

 

Song is "On A Storytellers Night".

 

Also in the same vein as Magnum are Marillion, and their former singer Fish who has his own band. Both are well worth listening to. Turning up the volume and my all time number 1 favorite band are Judas Priest! These guys are the Metal Gods, and know how to rock and put on a great show! My favorite songs include, The Sinner, Victim of Changes, Beyond The Realms of Death, Metal Gods, Nostradamus and Before The Dawn. Great energy boosting music!

 

Other bands I listen to include Pantera, RATM, SOAD, Metallica, The Doors, Slayer and UFO.

 

Sometimes I listen to heavy metal when I'm writing my poetry as I find it helps me to stay in the creative zone, plus the changing emotions that come from the music are constructive for my writing.

 

Thanks to Oleg for starting this thread off!

 

Namaste,

 

Lenny

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Ahh! some Leonard Cohen fans I see! Brilliant! When I was 12 I was introduced to Leonard Cohen, the album was Songs of Love and Hate(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_of_Love_and_Hate); instantly I fell in love with Cohen's voice and lyrics! However it wasn't until 2008 that I first saw this humble genius live in Birmingham, UK! Whe LC was touring in the UK I was away and so missed my chances to see him then, and then last yr LC came to Liverpool and I saw him again! I have been truly blessed!!! My favorite Cohen song is Ballad of the Absent Mare:-

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp7XP37vgU0

 

Such a beautiful song. From the album Recent Songs(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recent_Songs), and in my humble opinion a masterpiece!!!

 

Namaste,

 

Lenny

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Good to see some Dream Theater here!

 

One thing I learned from the masters of improvisation is that all to often we throw away ideas, motifs, phrases, without giving them a chance for development or fruition.

 

I see that happen to much with threads on Da Bums!

 

May the wisdom and work ethic of The Grand Wazoo (Frank Zappa) be an inspiration

Love,

Bobby

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=cKhfkfnbAMQ

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Da Mo could have used some good Maiden to toughen up dem warriors!

 

Once on board their touring plane, the stage-weary band collapsed around a video of Little Richard belting out "Tutti Frutti" in the 1957 film The Girl Can't Help It. Perhaps reminiscing how he modeled the opening riff of "Black Dog" after Richard's "Keep A Knockin'," Jimmy Page raised a toast: "No escaping our roots."

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

Reminds me of being a kid at 5th & Buchannan Gary,Ind circa 1972

 

Come on laugh a little ( or lots) ya gotta love it! Anyone recognise James Remar as Harry (Dexter's dad?)

 

My address fall 07'- winter 08' was 222 E. 22nd st. NYC. The old turf of the(fictional) Gramercy Riffs...only yuppie kids reside there now.

Ave A on the east river (Lower east side) was more like this. In the 70's police would not go there! (Got skills?)

 

Healing love, laughter (avoiding the nursing home at all costs!)

Roberto

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Time for a thread resurrection. I have been into metal music for many years. It's great to see Aghora here, their work is especially apt for those into Hinduism and Buddhism. In fact, they're probably the best for metal which focuses on Eastern philosophy.

 

A lot of people tend to think of metal music as being quite irreligious, and though it started off that way, it's certainly not anymore. There are plenty of metal bands who write about spirituality, philosophy, religion and nature. Not that many that write about Taoism though! My belief, as a fan of the genre, is that it's not about how music is portrayed, but what is being portrayed. I generally refuse to listen to anti-theistic lyrics... but they're easy to avoid in metal. There are plenty of bands singing about other things.

 

EDIT: Apparently there is a metal band that sings about Taoism called DeathTouch... but the Taoism line sounds more of a gimmick rather than a genuine interest.

Edited by BeckoningThePneuma

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I mostly dont listen to metal these days, unless I dig up an oldie but goodie, like this one here

 

 

 

Had to chuckle at ya mu's comment on page 1 that came up when I clicked on this thread...its a blast to play, but listening I'm often looking for something else :lol:

 

Of course, maybe I'm just a cranky old man and dont like the new stuff B)

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