having integrity and still getting laid

[MuttHero]

Im not ranting

Could i hear some testimonies of guys who got women without having to act like they were better then the were, resorting to manipulation and psychological cohercion?

I am tired of the old way and want find a way to have integrity and still get laid.

[MuttHero]

Im not ranting

Could i hear some testimonies of guys who got women without having to act like they were better then the were, resorting to manipulation and psychological cohercion?

I am tired of the old way and want find a way to have integrity and still get laid.

 

Add by gettin laid i mean an intimate relationship, i was just using slang

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

lol what.

 

You're not ranting, but still complaining that you arent getting laid...? oonnnnnn account of.... your practices???

 

 

Cant meet another human girl eh?

[Tao99]

Edited July 9, 2010 by Tao99

[MuttHero]

lol what.

 

You're not ranting, but still complaining that you arent getting laid...? oonnnnnn account of.... your practices???

 

 

Cant meet another human girl eh?

 

 

Appreciate you reply,

 

Your right i am having trouble meeting women, i don tknow why your using this forum to cut me down but...ive stopped goin to bars and clubs because i figure they dont fit my personality, maybe my question was posed funny...

I have a fear that i must either be an arrogant attention hog or a crafty mind jedi to be with a woman i am attracted to, i was wanting some advice about this, if you don understand my problem or have never had this problem your self then, why not just not reply, but if you can understand me then i hope i can learn...

[MuttHero]

To get a fun girlfriend/date: do magic - cause change in conformity with your will (to get a fun girlfriend/friend w/benefits).

 

Think of changes that will cause your will to be achieved. Think about what instruments, manners, receivers, and mediums will be required to cause these changes to get your will.

 

Pick a fruitful medium - a place where many eligible candidates (receivers) are. Choose your quality receivers you will approach. Detirmine your instrument/methods to apply th the receiver to get the will. Key instruments are friendliness, easily approached, funny, fun (does things), interested in receiver's points from receiver's point of view (not critiqued according to your own point of view). Open and honest about your own points as needed, not to win arguments or drive points home. Be generally helpful and positive in approach.

 

 

 

Could you break that down in to laymen's terms please, i only have a novice knowledge of metaphysics!!!

[MuttHero]

To get a fun girlfriend/date: do magic - cause change in conformity with your will (to get a fun girlfriend/friend w/benefits).

 

Think of changes that will cause your will to be achieved. Think about what instruments, manners, receivers, and mediums will be required to cause these changes to get your will.

 

Pick a fruitful medium - a place where many eligible candidates (receivers) are. Choose your quality receivers you will approach. Detirmine your instrument/methods to apply th the receiver to get the will. Key instruments are friendliness, easily approached, funny, fun (does things), interested in receiver's points from receiver's point of view (not critiqued according to your own point of view). Open and honest about your own points as needed, not to win arguments or drive points home. Be generally helpful and positive in approach.

 

Actually the more times i read it the more it makes sense...

thnks, it give me somthing to chew on..

[Tao99]

Edited July 9, 2010 by Tao99

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

Appreciate you reply,

 

Your right i am having trouble meeting women, i don tknow why your using this forum to cut me down but...ive stopped goin to bars and clubs because i figure they dont fit my personality, maybe my question was posed funny...

I have a fear that i must either be an arrogant attention hog or a crafty mind jedi to be with a woman i am attracted to, i was wanting some advice about this, if you don understand my problem or have never had this problem your self then, why not just not reply, but if you can understand me then i hope i can learn...

 

Oh, no, not at all, i dont mean to cut you down, im in the same fucking boat!

I've never bothered socializing because i know that socialists arent human. it's sad and lonely to be the only human being left in the world.

 

But all the HUMAN persons i meet are online in forums like this one.

 

 

YOU, VAJ, MARBLEHEAD. we here are REAL HUMAN BEINGS. more often than not, we must sacrifice our humanity to get the things and relationships we want, but alas, i am not willing to give up my humanity to gain something that wont fill the void of what i had given up.

 

SO i keep looking for HUMAN girls who might lvie in Oregon. They dont exist downtown, they dont exist in shelters, i dont know where to look anymore.

 

I am definitely not the one to give advice, but i did want to clarify whatyou meant by your situation.

 

 

 

Anything you learn, pass word alongto me! I need the help too bro! LOL

[hyok]

Im not ranting

Could i hear some testimonies of guys who got women without having to act like they were better then the were, resorting to manipulation and psychological cohercion?

I am tired of the old way and want find a way to have integrity and still get laid.

 

 

First thing I'd say to you is getting laid purely for the sake of getting laid is, in and of itself, a rip-off for most girls so there's the first deception. For me, I go into women's lives offering what I can only offer and women respect that. I tell them what I've got, which isn't much (I can't even f*ck for more than 10 seconds cuz this retention shiet) but I make them laugh, I try to make them feel good generally and about themselves too, and I Alawys maintain some level of sexual communication with them be it flirting or joking in a sexual way -- something to let her know I want to have sex with her. I also genuinely try to understand that her pussy is valuable to her and giving sex is revealing all that she has physically leaving her open to my judgement after wards. I keep that in mind and somehow it translates from me to her that I respect her, but I'll fuck her if she gives me the chance.

 

This mentality works well for me cuz it keeps me centered.

Edited June 20, 2010 by hyok

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

wow what plnet do you live on hyok? or are you not in america? maybe out in the <-- Edited -->(originally said bum f-k)<-- Edited --> country? (out in the "middle of nowhere") certainly doesnt work that way in Salem!

 

 

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Edited June 21, 2010 by Stoner Shadow Wolf

[MuttHero]

thanks...

 

I know that i am not being fully human either i tend to bottle up or supress my truth in terms of the way i live my life, my actions and my words, i feel like as i shine my life energy out in a honest yet strong way the things will improve...

 

I think when they talk about 'confidence' thats what they mean

 

gotta switch up the social things a go to , so i can inter act with a diffrent crowd of women

[MuttHero]

First thing I'd say to you is getting laid purely for the sake of getting laid is, in and of itself, a rip-off for most girls so there's the first deception. For me, I go into women's lives offering what I can only offer and women respect that. I tell them what I've got, which isn't much (I can't even f*ck for more than 10 seconds cuz this retention shiet) but I make them laugh, I try to make them feel good generally and about themselves too, and I Alawys maintain some level of sexual communication with them be it flirting or joking in a sexual way -- something to let her know I want to have sex with her. I also genuinely try to understand that her pussy is valuable to her and giving sex is revealing all that she has physically leaving her open to my judgement after wards. I keep that in mind and somehow it translates from me to her that I respect her, but I'll fuck her if she gives me the chance.

 

This mentality works well for me cuz it keeps me centered.

 

 

 

 

Has this worked in the 'field' !?

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

hyok probably lives in a more HUMAN nation than the USA, or at least a more human location thereof.... i need to find this place

 

 

Seems like all the people around me are soulless robots, finding love here is like looking for a virgin prostitute.

[hyok]

wow what plnet do you live on hyok? or are you not in america? maybe out in the <-- Edited --> country? certainly doesnt work that way in Salem!

 

 

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Congratulations, you just revealed your gender, biatch. hhahaha.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

Congratulations, you just revealed your gender, biatch. hhahaha.

 

 

prove it.

[gendao]

Im not ranting

Could i hear some testimonies of guys who got women without having to act like they were better then the were, resorting to manipulation and psychological cohercion?

I am tired of the old way and want find a way to have integrity and still get laid.

Can an honest politician get votes?

 

Let's hear some testimonies of guys who got elected without having to sellout & not do the right thing in order to vote-whore...

 

Ron Paul

.

.

.

*crickets*

 

 

Politicians will become honest when people start voting for honest politicians.

Men of integrity will get laid when women start valuing integrity.

 

I wouldn't hold your breath for either...

 

 

In the meantime, women will keep flocking to married cheaters leading phony double lives in search of the things they really desire - great sex, alpha male status-by-association, celebrity, wealth, power, money, machismo, mischievous games, forbidden fruit, etc. As you can see, integrity is irrelevant here. In fact, it often only gets in their way..

Edited June 21, 2010 by vortex

[Aetherous]

Men of "integrity" getting "laid".

 

You know why it doesn't work? Because those two words don't belong in the same sentence.

 

Guys who "get laid" are the type that have no integrity. They are the type of fish that squirm down the stream, half of the time belly-up. They feel the need to go do this because they have no backbone. Society says, "if you don't get laid you're not a man...you're a pussy...you're gay..."

 

Guys who strive to be good, they are the ones who constantly go against the current. They say "screw society", and they do what they think is right.

 

Now, which type is an example of strength?

 

Is it good to pick up some girl you just met and bang her? It's not even enjoyable sex most of the time. It'd be better if you had real chemistry with someone, and there was trust between you two.

 

Some think that girls only go for the guys who float downstream belly-up. Well, you should probably go out and meet more girls, because the ones who do that have no self esteem. Weak fish relate to weak fish. There are a lot of fish in the sea. What type do you want to be with? Make yourself into that type. Develop your character.

 

Edited June 21, 2010 by Scotty

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

i always hated that term. a lot of fish in the sea. yeah a lot of belly uppers!

 

 

Where's another strong fish when ya need one?

[Aetherous]

Oh, well I apologize for using it.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

lol dont be i was jsut making a point... it doesnt matter how many fish there are in the sea, it matters weather or not you are compatible with any of them, or if any are compatible with you.

[Pinetree]

You may just have to muddle through on your own because even Ayn Rand, best-selling novelist and creator of the Objectivist philosophy, and Joseph Smith - founder and prophet of the Mormon religion - couldn't get it right. Rand, of course, had her disastrous affair with her one-time "intellectual heir" Nathaniel Branden, who happened to be her supposed best friend's husband. Smith preached polygamy (having two or more "wives") to the Mormon faithful and wound up with many "wives", which one might suppose could drive any man to rack and ruin and drink. These are only two examples of famous people who never got it right. You may never get it right either, but it may be fun to try. Just relax, chill out, be yourself and you may attract someone who finds you to be her "cup of tea".

Edited June 24, 2010 by Pinetree

[Astral_Anima]

Im not ranting

Could i hear some testimonies of guys who got women without having to act like they were better then the were, resorting to manipulation and psychological cohercion?

I am tired of the old way and want find a way to have integrity and still get laid.

 

Well there's actually MANY ways. I'll state first that If you want to learn the "crafty jedi" method I have studied it for quite some time and now am officially fed up with it so if anyone wants sum material jus PM me.

 

The thing that works best (not fastest) for me is a combination of

A.) upfront honesty/consistency. Not changing my opinions or beliefs to try to "get her to like me". Women frequently test for consistency and will often fake being upset to test if you're

B.) An air of playfulness. Treating girls like little sisters or best friends; like equals not godesses or pieces of trash.

C.) Always focus on being friends FIRST before getting too physical or serious. Women are emotional creatures if you learn to stimulate their mind they're putty in your hands.

 

That being said, it would help anyone trying to help you if you specify (if you can) the gist of the "Old Way", or what you mean by retaining your integrity. Personally I find when you lie and be stupid and arrogant you get alot of girls but they're all the low self esteem girls who have weak minds and are "draining" to be with. Honesty you get less girls generally but you get better quality ones when you do get one

 

Best of luck to you

-Astral

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

A.) upfront honesty/consistency. Not changing my opinions or beliefs to try to "get her to like me". Women frequently test for consistency and will often fake being upset to test if you're

 

They'll also date other people to get a rise out of you and then forget about you entirely.

 

 

 

B.) An air of playfulness. Treating girls like little sisters or best friends; like equals not godesses or pieces of trash.

 

they also ignore this as it does not stand out enough to catch their flighty attention.

 

 

C.) Always focus on being friends FIRST before getting too physical or serious. Women are emotional creatures if you learn to stimulate their mind they're putty in your hands.

 

They also like to run away and marry the first guy who gets in their pants regardless if he's their "the one" or not.

 

 

 

 

 

You are talking about intelligent and aware women.

 

 

not WOMEN.

 

A specific caliber.

 

Just wanted to point that out.

[Astral_Anima]

A.) upfront honesty/consistency. Not changing my opinions or beliefs to try to "get her to like me". Women frequently test for consistency and will often fake being upset to test if you're

 

They'll also date other people to get a rise out of you and then forget about you entirely.

 

 

 

B.) An air of playfulness. Treating girls like little sisters or best friends; like equals not godesses or pieces of trash.

 

they also ignore this as it does not stand out enough to catch their flighty attention.

 

 

C.) Always focus on being friends FIRST before getting too physical or serious. Women are emotional creatures if you learn to stimulate their mind they're putty in your hands.

 

They also like to run away and marry the first guy who gets in their pants regardless if he's their "the one" or not.

 

 

 

 

 

You are talking about intelligent and aware women.

 

 

not WOMEN.

 

A specific caliber.

 

Just wanted to point that out.

 

 

LMAO, sounds like you've had some bad experiences. You're right the methods I describe are the for the women WORTH dating who often get left out of the scene because they're not OPENLY slutty (they might even have standards).

 

What exactly do YOU look for?