Qlites Posted June 24, 2010 (edited) Life Application of Bagua with Dragon Gate Sanctuary of Honolulu Head Master, SIfu Ray Carbullido. Bagua is the study of change and subleties through the practice of circle walking. By reputation, Bagua is known as the highest expression of martial arts. When the mastery of vortexes is accomplished with the oldest traditional practice, it becomes a beautiful spiral dance that coils and uncoils with the Tao, originating from Wu Chi (Void/Emptiness).  Dragon Gate Sanctuary of Honolulu Head Master, SIfu Ray Carbullido, will be sharing his knowledge and practice Bagua and the relevance it has to everyday life. Come and experience a life changing movement. Space is limited.  Schedule: August 2,2010-August 8,2010.  Practical Applications of Bagua - Ideal for martial artists Mon. 8/2 & Wed. 8/4, 6pm-9pm  Bagua Energetics - Ideal for healers and energetic practitioners Tues. 8/3 & Thur 8/5, 6pm-9pm  Bagua Meditations - Ideal for people seeking physical, mental, and emotional balance Fri. 8/6, Sat. 8/7, 9:30am-12:30pm  Bagua Comprehensive - Exploring the "Root Knowledge" that give birth to everything Sun.8/8, 9:30am-12:30pm  Location: Mesa Community College Rm. 450. Mesa, AZ  Price: Price: Call for details and early bird special.  Contact: Tim White 808-388-3334 [email protected]  dragongatesanctuary.com Edited June 24, 2010 by Qlites Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted June 24, 2010 If I were nearby, I would definitely go. Check out Sifu Ray's skill... Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baguakid Posted June 28, 2010 I'm curious, what is the value of learning from a system that is closed door to everyone else and therefore can never realize the full system? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qlites Posted June 28, 2010 Hi Baguakid. What is your definition of closed door system? Closed door system can't realize its full potential due to lack of interaction with other schools or people? What if it is closed door school but does interact with other system masters or master level people only? Would you still have that view? Not that Hawaii Dragon Gate Sanctuary is like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baguakid Posted June 29, 2010 Qlites, Â What I see from the website dragongatesanctuary.com I see the main teacher has picked his closed door students. So, that means to me that everyone else is a "lessor" type individual, not worthy of higher learning that is being taught to the closed door individuals. Therefore, they, the lessor type students, are getting crumbs of the system and are progressing down an empty road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qlites Posted June 29, 2010 Hi Baguakid. I can see how you came to that conclusion now. From my experiences with them, that is not the case. On their website, there are statements and testimonies that will confirm that. But then anyone can write anything on their website and you don't know any of those people that commented there. Â You and I know that there will be lessor type students in all schools. Is it the teacher's fault? Sometime but sometime not. When I was there, they did not hold back any teaching and I am just a visitor who hops in whenever I am home to see my parents. They really helped me understand the intention and purpose of the lesson. Of course I do asked for some advices/questions that were beyond just the movement that they just showed that I don't understand yet. They answered it openly without hesitation. It definitely increase my understanding of what they were doing and how that applied to my own system too. Â My point is if you are open, sincere, and dare to ask with humbleness, they will do what they can to help. How much you learn and able to mimick your Sifu is due to your own hard work/kung fu. And your advice is very sound but it apply to all schools, not just closed door schools. I had seen schools like what you are talking about. Â Thank you for your input and feedback. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted June 29, 2010 Flowry patterns and artforms are merely appealing and promotional. while, yest, they are a product of cultivation, they are also, in the same breath, nothing more than fancy footwork and sensationalistic of a particular way, path, artform, or schooling. Â Â The true highest point of martial arts is the actual act of cultivating your mind, body, soul, and spirit through the 16fold cycles of breath... 4 cycles over 4 areas of the "self". Â Â Learning your mind. inhale, hold, relax, exhale. Learning your muscle. inhale, hold, relax, exhale. Learning your soul. inhale, hold, relax, exhale. Learning your spirit. inhale, hold, relax, exhale. Â The mind, awareness, consciousness, expands and contracts like the muscles, the lungs. The soul, the spirit. we are all connected. the breath is ever binding. Â Â The seed of martial arts... Â Â Is breathing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qlites Posted July 1, 2010 Hi Stoner. I can't agree more. I visited several school when I can or on a trip, most people don't practice breathing with their movements. But they sure use it with the screaming punch..lol.. Â Peace, Q.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites