Runes

[Aetherous]

Well, it wasn't similar, if you read the writings from the time...for instance, the saga of Erik the Red. Quite a few people in the community converted to Christianity right away, and the community ideas was often split between Christian and the older ways. For instance, there are tales about how praying to Thor brought a blessing (if I remember correctly, a beached whale...which they ate and became sick), but praying to the Christian God brought a complete blessing (IIRC, fish being caught). This kind of story is from the people's own writings. The religion wasn't imposed on a completely unwilling population. These people (Vikings and others in nearby cultures) were some of the most literate, well traveled, aggressive, and mythologically developed in the world at the time...not simply victims of fate. Not people who would be conquered and forced to believe in something they weren't inclined to...

 

Anyway...I think you're misinterpreting my POV. I don't think all things should be classified as African. LOL

Edited December 7, 2012 by turtle shell

[gatito]

Don't these things fit under "occult" (hidden/secret)?

[gatito]

Back to Runes - I hope LOL

[eye_of_the_storm]

Depends what history you're looking at.

 

A comparison between Christianity now and then would be interesting / what would be considered christian?

 

2 well known examples are Christmas and Easter / both originally pagan celebrations

 

What do rabbits, decorated eggs? and Santa have to do with Christianity?

 

Complete perversion truth / history - Church of Lies

 

Between 315 AD and the sixth century thousands of pagan believers were slain. Pagan services became punishable by death in 356 AD.

 

The Christian Emperor, Theodosius, even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues.

 

Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis. Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyers."

 

In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities.

 

In the sixth century pagans were declared void of all rights.

--K. Deschner, Abermals krähte der Hahn, (Stuttgart 1962), p.466, 468-469

 

The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.

[DO19-25]

 

Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded. [DO30]

 

Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany. [WW223]

 

Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]

 

15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by Knights of the Order. Victims unknown. [DO30]

 

16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops "pacified and civilized" Ireland, where only Gaelic "wild Irish", "unreasonable beasts lived without any knowledge of God or good manners, in common of their goods, cattle, women, children and every other thing." One of the more successful soldiers, a certain Humphrey Gilbert, half-brother of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that "the heddes of all those (of what sort soever thei were) which were killed in the daie, should be cutte off from their bodies... and should bee laied on the ground by eche side of the waie", which effort to civilize the Irish indeed caused "greate terrour to the people when thei sawe the heddes of their dedde fathers, brothers, children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the grounde".

 

Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage. [sH99, 225]

 

In the era of witch hunting (1484-1750) according to modern scholars several hundred thousand (about 80% female) burned at the stake or hanged. [WV]

 

http://www.truthbekn...tm#.UMGqLneb90Q

Edited December 7, 2012 by White Wolf Running On Air

[Aetherous]

K, back to runes.

[eye_of_the_storm]

In terms of occult knowledge / that was burnt to the ground or bled out hundreds / thousands of years ago.

 

Nothing here is secret, it was quite deliberately distributed to the masses... as it is all false knowledge / false light

 

What we have today Christianity / religions of Abraham is nothing more than a perversion / misdirection of true knowledge + true power (+ psychic energy) that was destroyed long ago.

 

Another thread asked for Pure Kabbalah.

 

There is no such thing as Pure Kabblah as it was a rip off and perversion of ancient Egyptian practices / thought

 

Just as much as the "Saints" are Christian

 

The Celtic goddess Brigid and her namesake, Saint Brigid of Ireland, can lay claim to being the most complex, intriguing, widespread, timeless, and beloved of all legendary ladies. Brigid appears in many different guises, with numerous names, in many different European cultures. And she has survived the ravages of time much better than most.

 

Known as Bride in Scotland, Brigandu in France, Ffaid in Wales, and Brigitania in England, the Irish goddess Brigid (usually pronounced Breet) is also known by the names Brighid, Bridget, Brid, and others. Her varying identities reflect her original image as a triple goddess, but with each of her three faces differing in their gifts.

 

The Brigid first worshipped in ancient times was the daughter of the great Irish god Dagda, the 'Good Father'. She had two sisters who were also named Brigid. Taken together, they were called the 'Three Mothers', 'Three Sisters', or simply the Goddess Brigid.

 

Unlike in Greek mythology where the Triple Goddess represented the three chronological stages of a woman's life (Maiden, Matron, and Crone), the Bridgets were all of the same generation and the distinctions between them were based on their domains of responsibility.

 

> Brigid, the 'Fire of the Hearth', was the goddess of fertility, family, childbirth and healing.\

 

> Brigid, the '"Fire of the Forge', was like the Greek goddess Athena, a patroness of the crafts (especially weaving, embroidery, and metalsmithing), and a goddess who was concerned with justice and law and order.

 

> Brigid, the 'Fire of Inspiration', was the muse of poetry, song history and the protector of all cultural learning.

 

Much later, when the Christian church came to Ireland, they had little hope of making converts if they were to denounce the beloved goddess of the Druids as a wicked demon. So instead they made her a saint. Many of the ancient legends of the goddess were soon to become the deeds of the saint.

 

http://www.goddessgi...dess-brigid.htm

Edited December 7, 2012 by White Wolf Running On Air

[eye_of_the_storm]

My point being "western" thought is mostly Abrahamic

 

A(anti) - Brahman ?

 

Abraham/Sara = Brahma/Saraiswati

 

John 1:1 (taken from the vedic texts)

In the beginning was the Word

and the Word was with God

and the Word was God.

 

"Prajapati vai idam agre aseet

Tasya vag dvitiya aseet

Vag vai paramam Brahman"

 

"In the beginning was Prajapati, the Brahman

With whom was the Word

And the Word was the Supreme Brahman"

 

AUM

Edited December 7, 2012 by White Wolf Running On Air

[eye_of_the_storm]

How does this relate?

 

hmm

 

Well Runes are sounds

 

and everything is sound?

 

vibration / many traditions put great emphasis on sounds + the very precise pronunciation / vibration

 

Hence it would be important? to have pure source and not stolen / twisted knowledge.

 

So the difference say between Ka Ba Ankh and Kabbalah?

 

Words / wryds (fate)

 

The Old English term wyrd derives from a Common Germanic term *wurđíz. Wyrd has cognates in Old Saxon wurd, Old High German wurt, Old Norse urðr, Dutch worden (to become) and German werden. The Proto-Indo-European root is *wert- "to turn, rotate", in Common Germanic *wirþ- with a meaning "to come to pass, to become, to be due" (also in weorþ, the notion of "worth" both in the sense of "price, value, amount due" and "honour, dignity, due esteem").

 

Old English wyrd is a verbal noun formed from the verb weorþan, meaning "to come to pass, to become". The term developed into the modern English adjective weird. Adjectival use develops in the 15th century, in the sense "having the power to control fate", originally in the name of the Weird Sisters, i.e. the classical Fates, in the Elizabethan period detached from their classical background as fays, and most notably appearing as the Three Witches in Shakespeare's Macbeth. From the 14th century, to weird was also used as a verb in Scots, in the sense of "to preordain by decree of fate".

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyrd

 

Words are spells...

 

What are we creating?

 

What are we giving our energy to?

Edited December 7, 2012 by White Wolf Running On Air

[Apech]

 

These are runes ... discuss them please ....

[zanshin]

Odin is an aspect of Hermes (probably the most suped up of any culture).

[zanshin]

Did you all read about the aets ascribed to Freya, Heimdall and Tyr?

[zanshin]

The post by White Wolf points out what might seem like a weird old coincidence this similarity between Wyrd (Norse Orlog) as fate, destiny and the process of becoming and word as we express in speech, it is relvant to the discussion. Words as spells, pretty common concept actually. Where would the human race be without language? In modern times we have the Secret, idea that your very thoughts can change your destiny. Probably ancient people were right to have reverence toward words and expecially written language. Now we just talk silly on the internet and are casual with our words. Runes do seem to tap into some old archtypes that imo should be taken quite seriously.

Edited December 7, 2012 by zanshin

[Aetherous]

Okay...please white wolf, no more taking threads off topic please.

[gatito]

In terms of occult knowledge / that was burnt to the ground or bled out hundreds / thousands of years ago.

 

Nothing here is secret, it was quite deliberately distributed to the masses... as it is all false knowledge / false light

 

What we have today Christianity / religions of Abraham is nothing more than a perversion / misdirection of true knowledge + true power (+ psychic energy) that was destroyed long ago.

 

Another thread asked for Pure Kabbalah.

 

There is no such thing as Pure Kabblah as it was a rip off and perversion of ancient Egyptian practices / thought

 

Just as much as the "Saints" are Christian

 

The Celtic goddess Brigid and her namesake, Saint Brigid of Ireland, can lay claim to being the most complex, intriguing, widespread, timeless, and beloved of all legendary ladies. Brigid appears in many different guises, with numerous names, in many different European cultures. And she has survived the ravages of time much better than most.

 

Known as Bride in Scotland, Brigandu in France, Ffaid in Wales, and Brigitania in England, the Irish goddess Brigid (usually pronounced Breet) is also known by the names Brighid, Bridget, Brid, and others. Her varying identities reflect her original image as a triple goddess, but with each of her three faces differing in their gifts.

 

The Brigid first worshipped in ancient times was the daughter of the great Irish god Dagda, the 'Good Father'. She had two sisters who were also named Brigid. Taken together, they were called the 'Three Mothers', 'Three Sisters', or simply the Goddess Brigid.

Unlike in Greek mythology where the Triple Goddess represented the three chronological stages of a woman's life (Maiden, Matron, and Crone), the Bridgets were all of the same generation and the distinctions between them were based on their domains of responsibility.

 

> Brigid, the 'Fire of the Hearth', was the goddess of fertility, family, childbirth and healing.\

 

> Brigid, the '"Fire of the Forge', was like the Greek goddess Athena, a patroness of the crafts (especially weaving, embroidery, and metalsmithing), and a goddess who was concerned with justice and law and order.

 

> Brigid, the 'Fire of Inspiration', was the muse of poetry, song history and the protector of all cultural learning.

 

Much later, when the Christian church came to Ireland, they had little hope of making converts if they were to denounce the beloved goddess of the Druids as a wicked demon. So instead they made her a saint. Many of the ancient legends of the goddess were soon to become the deeds of the saint.

 

http://www.goddessgi...dess-brigid.htm

My point being "western" thought is mostly Abrahamic

 

A(anti) - Brahman ?

 

Abraham/Sara = Brahma/Saraiswati

 

John 1:1 (taken from the vedic texts)

In the beginning was the Word

and the Word was with God

and the Word was God.

 

"Prajapati vai idam agre aseet

Tasya vag dvitiya aseet

Vag vai paramam Brahman"

 

"In the beginning was Prajapati, the Brahman

With whom was the Word

And the Word was the Supreme Brahman"

 

AUM

How does this relate?

 

hmm

 

Well Runes are sounds

 

and everything is sound?

 

vibration / many traditions put great emphasis on sounds + the very precise pronunciation / vibration

 

Hence it would be important? to have pure source and not stolen / twisted knowledge.

 

So the difference say between Ka Ba Ankh and Kabbalah?

 

Words / wryds (fate)

 

The Old English term wyrd derives from a Common Germanic term *wurđíz. Wyrd has cognates in Old Saxon wurd, Old High German wurt, Old Norse urðr, Dutch worden (to become) and German werden. The Proto-Indo-European root is *wert- "to turn, rotate", in Common Germanic *wirþ- with a meaning "to come to pass, to become, to be due" (also in weorþ, the notion of "worth" both in the sense of "price, value, amount due" and "honour, dignity, due esteem").

 

Old English wyrd is a verbal noun formed from the verb weorþan, meaning "to come to pass, to become". The term developed into the modern English adjective weird. Adjectival use develops in the 15th century, in the sense "having the power to control fate", originally in the name of the Weird Sisters, i.e. the classical Fates, in the Elizabethan period detached from their classical background as fays, and most notably appearing as the Three Witches in Shakespeare's Macbeth. From the 14th century, to weird was also used as a verb in Scots, in the sense of "to preordain by decree of fate".

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyrd

 

Words are spells...

 

What are we creating?

 

What are we giving our energy to?

 

 

Pure Gold

[eye_of_the_storm]

[gatito]

Took your time getting to the point though

[gatito]

Although, on a serious note, it was well worth the wait and answered a question with which I've been wrestling.

 

Sincere thanks,

 

G

[Antares]

Rune Othala (Odala) represents connection with Earth. It is personal human potential (karma)

 

Othala (Othila) represents odal land. This rune speaks to everything that is yours by right of birth and blood and hard work. It is your estate, your resources, all that is within your purview. It represents the right of ownership to the enth degree. There are several facets to Othala’s realm: ancestral connections, inheritance, luck, ownership, assets. It’s very much a rune concerned with good management of one’s resources, with keeping an ongoing thread of prosperity flowing from one generation to the next, and with good maintenance of one’s luck, part of which is always inherited. This is the rune that says “keep your ledger books in order.” Some rune workers place Othala as the penultimate rune in the futhark order and some place it last. I side with the latter group because I feel that this rune also represents the sum total of everything learned throughout one’s life and spiritual journey. It is that which will be left behind when you go.

 

Correlates with Mooladhara chakra. Moola and Adhara. In some indoeur. languages sound r turns into sound l. And what we can see here is almost the same sound athala. BTW in Vedas root chakrs is called adhara. Adhara means "support". The word Earth sometime is pronounced with hard T at the end. (If you come to Ireland ). The sacred sound of mooladhara chakra is Lam.

 

The Worlds that are below earth are

1. Athalam – Place associated with Yama
    
   
2. Vithalam – Place associated with Shiva
    
   
3. Suthala – King Bali resides here
    
   
4. Rasathala – Rakshasas reside here
    
   
5. Talathalam – Spot associated with Mayamayi
    
   
6. Mahathalam – Place associated with Serpents
    
   
7. Pathalam – Place associated with Yama and Nagas.
   

Leg channels to the Earth. Serpents and nagas represent Kundalini

Edited December 9, 2012 by Eugene

[RiverSnake]

Anyone on this forum have some experience with the Runes?

 

My 2 cents, Peace

[dayzhaze]

Not a fan of runes.

Edited November 23, 2015 by dayzhaze

[silent thunder]

My Runes are made from a Sequoia branch and each Rune was cut in order of progression, starting from the trunk and moving outward. Engraved and painted, a small portion of my blood was mingled into the paint to charge and connect them.

[寒月 Hanyue]

Anyone on this forum have some experience with the Runes?

 

Yes.

Edited September 14, 2014 by snowmonki

[RiverSnake]

Yes.

[GrandmasterP]

Heck of a bump!

[FieryWind]

 

Book: Magic of the Runes: And Spiritual Secrets of Virgil's Aeneid

 

For a full course on the Runic alphabet, I highly recommend: RUNES

Edited September 25, 2014 by FieryWind