Is This The Truth About Kundalini?

[RongzomFan]

kundalini can be experienced as the most painful, harrowing flow of energy or a gentle, soothing breeze. It depends on the subject and the "condition" of his/her nadis. If one has purified the nadis sufficiently and cleared up blockages, the flow is soft and easy. If one is forcing the energy to rise it is going to be an intense feeling.

 

There is no single "right" way. Many don't even realize the energy has risen till it rises to a region where there are more blockages. Sometimes the signs of kundalini activity is simply a throbbing/vibration in the chakra where it is passing through. After it has passed through the region it has just crossed will feel cold.

 

 

these are just energy movements. There is only one kundalini, which is a real thing.

 

When you raise kundalini you experience all knowing omniscience. And also literally hear AUMMMM.

Edited December 11, 2010 by alwayson

[KoolAid900]

kundalini can be experienced as the most painful, harrowing flow of energy or a gentle, soothing breeze. It depends on the subject and the "condition" of his/her nadis. If one has purified the nadis sufficiently and cleared up blockages, the flow is soft and easy. If one is forcing the energy to rise it is going to be an intense feeling.

 

There is no single "right" way. Many don't even realize the energy has risen till it rises to a region where there are more blockages. Sometimes the signs of kundalini activity is simply a throbbing/vibration in the chakra where it is passing through. After it has passed through the region it has just crossed will feel cold.

 

 

I've heard that prostrations slowly raises kundalini energy... and also opens the sacrum... They definitely do crazy things to my body and work muscles extensively that don't otherwise get worked. This seems to have spiritual significance but i'm not sure what it is.

 

Any comments on any of that?

[RongzomFan]

I've heard that prostrations slowly raises kundalini energy... and also opens the sacrum... They definitely do crazy things to my body and work muscles extensively that don't otherwise get worked. This seems to have spiritual significance but i'm not sure what it is.

 

Any comments on any of that?

 

 

I will just comment that kundalini is in the perineum, not sacrum.

 

Although the sacrum, genitals and two hip joints are the four satellite centers of the perineum.

[KoolAid900]

That is amazing K.A.! Yes, Garchen is a very rare being... sadly... I wish there were more of him on the Earth, but right now... we must have some kind of merit to even have him aboard star ship Earth at this time. Man... he is powerful, and I've never met him in person, but I've heard so many stories and I just really, really connected with him when I first saw him in the Yogis of Tibet video. I bawled just through seeing him on the video. Also the older Rinpoche... I forgot his name? He was on the video, though he passed on recently. He was totally amazing!! I fell out of my seat when I saw and heard him talk. I could feel him so deeply. Anyway... yes! Garchen-la!! I hope to meet him in person sometime soon. I know he loves to travel and give White Tara transmissions. I actually paid for one in 09' when he was in NJ or NY? But, I had to cancel and get a refund because of some really hard times. They gave me a huge sliding scale discount, and I still couldn't go because of transportation costs. But... man. He just looks like a walking heart! :wu:

 

Oh yeah... Drubwang Rinpoche.. that's the old guy I was talking about. He's on the video you shared above.

 

Yeah, he really is a walking heart. When I began to connect with the Drikung Kagyu lineage, there were 2 teachers that I felt I really needed to connect with and Garchen was one (the other was Khenchen Konchok Gyaltshen Rinpoche). Even seeing him only once before he passes, I feel very happy. I have that much confidence in him and the meaning of connecting. Anyway, looks like he will be in the area again.

 

According to Kunzang Palchen Ling's facebook:

 

Kunzang Palchen Ling We are very happy to share the news with you that H.E. Garchen Rinpoche will visit KPL in 2011, this time for a weekend teaching! The date has been set for late May, but we would like to wait a little longer with announcing it since the details are still subject to change at this stage of planning.

 

This will be in Red Hood NY (not brooklyn), if you are still in the area perhaps you can meet him. Also, this is a wonderful opportunity to make a connection with the extremely short lineage of Terchen Barway Dorje, and the Bardor Tulku Rinpoche, personal Dharma protector of HH Karmapa... KPL is his main center of activity. Despite being very low-key, Bardor Rinpoche is a maha-siddha, and his qualities are not very hidden as I think he forgets to hide them. It seems pretty clear to me that even though he is one of the most completely aware human beings I've met, everything he is doing in that form, everything most of us can see, is nothing but a side project of his awareness... which is clearly working in many realms simultaneously. He is also married with 3 daughters. Hope you get a chance to go

 

KPL's website: http://www.kunzang.org

 

Bonus: http://www.kunzang.org/dohas/btr-dohas-dpr.html

Amazing Letter from BTR to Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche in relation to samaya, political issues, and HH Karmapa.

[KoolAid900]

I will just comment that kundalini is in the perineum, not sacrum.

 

Although the sacrum, genitals and two hip joints are the four satellite centers of the perineum.

 

 

Very interesting b/c I often have issues with my perineum after prostrations... i wonder if there is a relationship there.

[RongzomFan]

Not to say you won't experience a kundalini spike up the sacrum if you get the perineum to strobe

[Birch]

No Kate, shit doesn't just happen. There is no effect without a cause, and both sides always play some sort of part in it, even if the child is indeed innocent, which is the case in a sense, even if that child was lets say a crook in a past life or even just a violent wolf, this does not excuse the parent or older person from their actions, I'm just saying that cause and effect is a mess but real.

 

Oh dear. The child is innocent. To suggest otherwise IMO points to something seriously wrong with a line of thinking that seeking to "explain" - crosses a line into justifying abusive behaviour towards anyone.

 

"Past lives" as a justification are IMO muddled thinking. There are a couple of other ideas in there that warrant discussion, such as assuming that a "violent wolf" is in some way negative (associating it with a "crook" and so must be "punished" in a reincarnation).

 

I'm not sure I enjoy how Buddhism seems to be able to go from a seemingly holographic "dependent origination" model to a retribution-based model in the blink of an eye.

[ralis]

Oh dear. The child is innocent. To suggest otherwise IMO points to something seriously wrong with a line of thinking that seeking to "explain" - crosses a line into justifying abusive behaviour towards anyone.

 

"Past lives" as a justification are IMO muddled thinking. There are a couple of other ideas in there that warrant discussion, such as assuming that a "violent wolf" is in some way negative (associating it with a "crook" and so must be "punished" in a reincarnation).

 

I'm not sure I enjoy how Buddhism seems to be able to go from a seemingly holographic "dependent origination" model to a retribution-based model in the blink of an eye.

 

This view being posited by Vajraji is the same as original sin in the Catholic tradition, with some philosophical tweaking.

 

One problem I have is that past life aggressions are somehow punished in a future life. If one has no knowledge or belief that a so called punishment is from a past life, then this Buddhist tenet is moot!

 

There exists no absolute proof that past lifetime problems are carried forth.

Edited December 12, 2010 by ralis

[goldisheavy]

This view being posited by Vajraji is the same as original sin in the Catholic tradition, with some philosophical tweaking.

 

One problem I have is that past life aggressions are somehow punished in a future life. If one has no knowledge or belief that a so called punishment is from a past life, then this Buddhist tenet is moot!

 

There exists no absolute proof that past lifetime problems are carried forth.

 

I agree. I see a lot of problems with many interpretations of karmic systems, including Buddhist ones.

 

However, what I would say is that thought and actions produce a mental scent, or a general attitude of mind, and this general attitude sticks around after death and colors the events that happen later. So for example, if you commit many violent acts, it's not that people will be violent to you in turn in the next life, but there is a violent attitude coloring the life. Perhaps you will be violent again in the next life. Etc. So I don't see it as a tit-for-tat system. I see it as a kind of mood that developers in the mind and sticks around.

 

So having, let's say a violent mood, results in a life where violence is common. It doesn't necessarily gets distributed in a fair manner. So karma, in my view, has nothing to do with fairness or getting one's just deserves.

 

Overall negative moods are less pleasant than positive ones, so in a way a person who develops a negative mood does experience a negative side-effect, but it's not as obvious and as simplistic as people often describe, like if you kill in this life, in the next one you're killed in the same way. These descriptions are mostly childish fantasies in my view.

 

Still, the moods are real. They're not permanent, but if the person persists the mood can be maintained for a while, whatever the mood is.

Edited December 12, 2010 by goldisheavy

[Vajrahridaya]

Jigme Lingpa and the omniscient ones says that it is an error to correlate the lower yanas with Dzogchen.

 

It is definitely an error trying to bring lower yana understanding into Dzogchen.

 

Dzogchen supersedes any other understanding, as it is an independent vehicle but can also be used as completion stage.

 

Yes, my Rinpoche says that it can be an independent vehicle, if you are ready for that. Also, to correlate the tenets of the lower yanas with the tenets of Dzogchen is an error, as Dzogchen only has 1 truth, and not the two truths of the lower yanas, as well as all the rules of the lower yanas don't apply to Dzogchen, though so many masters say they should still be practiced even if you are a Dzogchenpa.

 

Making the tenet systems of the different yanas equal is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about having the basic understanding of dependent origination of Hinayana, the basic understanding of the Bodhisattva path of Mahayana, and the basic understanding of transformation from Vajrayana will all be completed and realized through Dzogchen self liberation, and the experience of rigpa will be understood with deeper clarity.

 

Dzogchen does NOT supersede any yanas, it completes the essential goal of all the yanas.

 

There is an experiential understanding to this that is not merely an intellectual exercise, as the intellectual exercises of the different yanas, are different, and yes, Dzogchen supersedes sutra and tantra in the tenets of practice and application, but it completes the experience, or cycle of the lower yanas, so you really aren't transcending anything. This is why a master of Dzogchen will indeed teach the lower yanas, because they are complimentary to clarity.

 

Dzogchen doesn't throw the baby out with the bathwater, it just thoroughly drys the baby after throwing out the dirty and used bathwater.

[Vajrahridaya]

these are just energy movements. There is only one kundalini, which is a real thing.

 

When you raise kundalini you experience all knowing omniscience. And also literally hear AUMMMM.

 

That's only when the kundalini reaches the ajna chakra. Kundalini is experienced different depending upon the chakra it's working through.

[ralis]

I agree. I see a lot of problems with many interpretations of karmic systems, including Buddhist ones.

 

However, what I would say is that thought and actions produce a mental scent, or a general attitude of mind, and this general attitude sticks around after death and colors the events that happen later. So for example, if you commit many violent acts, it's not that people will be violent to you in turn in the next life, but there is a violent attitude coloring the life. Perhaps you will be violent again in the next life. Etc. So I don't see it as a tit-for-tat system. I see it as a kind of mood that developers in the mind and sticks around.

 

So having, let's say a violent mood, results in a life where violence is common. It doesn't necessarily gets distributed in a fair manner. So karma, in my view, has nothing to do with fairness or getting one's just deserves.

 

Overall negative moods are less pleasant than positive ones, so in a way a person who develops a negative mood does experience a negative side-effect, but it's not as obvious and as simplistic as people often describe, like if you kill in this life, in the next one you're killed in the same way. These descriptions are mostly childish fantasies in my view.

 

Still, the moods are real. They're not permanent, but if the person persists the mood can be maintained for a while, whatever the mood is.

 

The incessant focusing on karma and past lives, can be distracting and therefor create obstacles to practice. Discussion of the issues serves no real benefit to anyone.

[RongzomFan]

That's only when the kundalini reaches the ajna chakra. Kundalini is experienced different depending upon the chakra it's working through.

 

 

According to Robert Bruce, it always go through every chakra every time

[Vajrahridaya]

Oh dear. The child is innocent. To suggest otherwise IMO points to something seriously wrong with a line of thinking that seeking to "explain" - crosses a line into justifying abusive behaviour towards anyone.

 

You are thinking to emotionally and not going deep into the rational, which transcends the emotion and should temper the emotional. Really, they should join hips as twins.

 

What needs to be understood, is that the child wasn't just born, the child had past lives, shit doesn't just happen. If you haven't seen your past lives, then of course you would have doubts. I have no doubts. It's something that strikes at the very heart of the ignorance of chaos. By your response, you think Chaos is absolute and real by itself. Chaos is order misunderstood and order is chaos seen clearly. even in Chaos theory, what seems chaotic reveals a pattern as you see more deeply into it.

 

This in no way justifies violent behavior or justifies abuse. That is not what I'm saying. What I'm doing is revealing that everything has causes that extend even past this life. No one is truly innocent, unless you are realizing the nature of emptiness directly. A baby still has beginningless lifetimes of karma to play out, unless they are coming to the spiritual path and emptying all those impressions or transforming them into conditions for enlightened expression.

 

What I'm saying is a very profound realization and understanding, that hits like a ton of bricks. It doesn't excuse the abuser from responsibility, it just reveals why a particular person was there to experience that, not as a justification, but as an effect of previous causes that most people can't see because mostly we are so caught up on the surface of things. This understanding of karma, in no way justifies apathy though, as it should bring up a deeper experience of compassion and the desire to reach out and help both people involved.

 

 

"Past lives" as a justification are IMO muddled thinking. There are a couple of other ideas in there that warrant discussion, such as assuming that a "violent wolf" is in some way negative (associating it with a "crook" and so must be "punished" in a reincarnation).

 

You're thinking in terms of your Christian upbringing. It's not punishment, it's simply cause and effect. Who knows, the abused child could grow up to go through heartache and pain, only to turn it around into conditions for deep compassion and the will to help hundreds of abused children do the same. A person, if interested in going past the surface of things, should contemplate deeper ramifications of things.

 

I'm not sure I enjoy how Buddhism seems to be able to go from a seemingly holographic "dependent origination" model to a retribution-based model in the blink of an eye.

 

It doesn't, but Christian upbringing and the strong desire to run away from these concepts of punishment, might project that.

 

It's not a "Buddhist" model, it's actually a deep realization of what is. Well, in that sense it is a Buddhist model in the sense that Buddha merely means "awake."

 

No one is innocent, but everyone and anyone can essentially realize their primordial freedom and experience the clarity of innocence. Even Buddhas did horrible things in past lives, and we are lucky to have some living examples who actually have shared these experiences with us. They are far beyond these horrible things that they have done in past lives, and they now live from the lessons learned concerning the nature of these horrible actions committed by them, even maybe in this life! There is for instance Angulimala who murdered hundreds of people and robbed hundreds of people, but became a disciple of the Buddha in that lifetime 2,500 years ago and was a very deeply realized disciple of the Buddha by the end of his life.

 

Kate... no one is justifying anything, and no one is saying that they are being punished for something. It's just cause and effect, there is no effect, without causes, coming from both sides... it's a continuum. This has to be realized, not thought about per say, as the thinking of it will get in the way. It has to be seen directly.

 

This realization healed lifetimes of pain and helped me experience deep forgiveness for both my parents and the kids involved in my abuse as a youth.

 

There is no underestimating the power of the realization of past lives to clear away so many misunderstandings about the nature of things, and this seeming chaos called "The Universe."

 

P.S. Goldisheavy explains what I was trying to say very well. I just read his post after I wrote this one.

Edited December 12, 2010 by Vajrahridaya

[Vajrahridaya]

This view being posited by Vajraji is the same as original sin in the Catholic tradition, with some philosophical tweaking.

 

One problem I have is that past life aggressions are somehow punished in a future life. If one has no knowledge or belief that a so called punishment is from a past life, then this Buddhist tenet is moot!

 

There exists no absolute proof that past lifetime problems are carried forth.

 

I am in no way positing an understanding that is akin to the "original sin" concept of Catholicism.

Edited December 12, 2010 by Vajrahridaya

[Vajrahridaya]

 

However, what I would say is that thought and actions produce a mental scent, or a general attitude of mind, and this general attitude sticks around after death and colors the events that happen later. So for example, if you commit many violent acts, it's not that people will be violent to you in turn in the next life, but there is a violent attitude coloring the life. Perhaps you will be violent again in the next life. Etc. So I don't see it as a tit-for-tat system. I see it as a kind of mood that developers in the mind and sticks around.

 

That is all the Buddha is saying, is that you are carrying an energy, either subconsciously or consciously that is manifesting circumstances that reflect this energy. This is explained with more clarity in Vajrayana as opposed to Hinayana explanations. Though of course this wisdom is available for anyone, period, if they would only look. It isn't so black and white and tit-for-tat. It's merely the continuum of energetic patterns in the mind stream. "Karma" The Buddha gives a non-linear explanation of karma in the Suttas.

 

In the case of victim and victimizing, it's a continuum, a simultaneous kind of matching up of karmic circumstances, seemingly chaotic and out of whack, and it kind of is, but there is a pattern, an energetic one that is being met. Not as punishment or anything like that, but just out of the complexity of causation.

 

So having, let's say a violent mood, results in a life where violence is common. It doesn't necessarily gets distributed in a fair manner. So karma, in my view, has nothing to do with fairness or getting one's just deserves.

 

The Buddha said this universe that we live in, this level, is like a disc spinning out of balance. So no, it's not linear in that sense. I think you are actually saying it better than I was. But, this is exactly what is taught in Vajrayana and Dzogchen. This was also how Gurumayi used to talk about karma in some of her talks.

 

Overall negative moods are less pleasant than positive ones, so in a way a person who develops a negative mood does experience a negative side-effect, but it's not as obvious and as simplistic as people often describe, like if you kill in this life, in the next one you're killed in the same way. These descriptions are mostly childish fantasies in my view.

 

But, that also can happen, actually, it's more like patterns can repeat themselves in different ways, over and over again and if vengeance is a strong pattern, than it can actually play out in that black and white sense. But yes... I understand what you're saying and I agree.

 

Still, the moods are real. They're not permanent, but if the person persists the mood can be maintained for a while, whatever the mood is.

 

Just like anything, it can persist for as long as there is attachment to it, or energy put into it.

Edited December 12, 2010 by Vajrahridaya

[KoolAid900]

Oh dear. The child is innocent. To suggest otherwise IMO points to something seriously wrong with a line of thinking that seeking to "explain" - crosses a line into justifying abusive behaviour towards anyone.

 

"Past lives" as a justification are IMO muddled thinking. There are a couple of other ideas in there that warrant discussion, such as assuming that a "violent wolf" is in some way negative (associating it with a "crook" and so must be "punished" in a reincarnation).

 

I think this concern must just come from looking from outside or something...? I dunno, but it's not like that. I have never met a decent Buddhist who blames others. This is not at all the Buddhist teaching. The purpose of karma is of instruction as opposed to explanation. We are learning how to grow, avoid unnecessary suffering, and increase positivity. In Mahayana the emphasis is on being of benefit to all, we do not judge others. As far as compassion is concerned it does not care whether or not somebody is repeatedly stabbing themselves in the eye or if a super-villan does it. The fact that it is their own fault should only increase compassion and concern... "how unbelievably sad it is to see everyone create their own suffering, I must help if I can!"

 

The teaching on karma has nothing to do with punishment. I'm starting to realize that karma is a vastly misunderstood topic. What is really going is that the mind is King. Mind effects the way that we experience things and some of what we experience (to a greater extent than we usually attribute to it). Karma is stored in the mind (and/or Chi energy), but how it manifests is greatly effected by conditions and the environment, it is not a set static thing. The point is not that wrongdoers are punished but that the seeds we plant in our mind will one day give rise to what is in the field we are plowing.

 

http://www.unfetteredmind.com/articles/explain.php

 

Ken McLeod says it much more clearly in a few short articles...

 

 

I'm not sure I enjoy how Buddhism seems to be able to go from a seemingly holographic "dependent origination" model to a retribution-based model in the blink of an eye.

 

 

If I understand what you are saying about switching from holograph to retribution correctly, then you've hit one what I see as one of BuddhaDharma's strongest points, from a slightly negative angle. From the positive perspective the teaching is saying that everything is illusory AND everything you do matters. In my experience it is rare to find those 2 combined. Usually if everything is illusory then people feel they have a free pass, or if everything is so solid then they become extremists, closed to any other perspective. Karma is an important principle in terms of personal growth, it is all about looking within. If we are victim blaming this is not right, and certainly only accumulation of negative karma for ourselves.

[RongzomFan]

I personally don't care about the teachings of the Buddha.

 

I listen to the teachings of the Mahasiddhas who obtained rainbow body and came up with Dzogchen.

 

I only nominally take refuge in the Triple Gems.

[Vajrahridaya]

I personally don't care about the teachings of the Buddha.

 

I listen to the teachings of the Mahasiddhas who obtained rainbow body and came up with Dzogchen.

 

I only nominally take refuge in the Triple Gems.

 

Well, that must be why you might be a little confused about what Dzogchen teaches. Dzogchen is Buddhism at it's best, it's the experience of all the Buddhas teachings. Also the Buddha didn't manifest the rainbow body because he had too many disciples that didn't stick to their vows. Wheel turners will generally not attain Jalus. Padmasambhava attained jalus because he was sure to only teach very ripe students and he didn't have too many students that broke their vows. The Buddha taught everybody and anybody, and this effects the bodies energy due to connecting with that amount of people on the level that he did. Dzogchen texts explain it better than I can. Anyway... he left through the 4th jhana to the peerless deva realm in order to keep teaching in the celestial. Why not attain a high jhana and go talk with him and have the discussion with him yourself?

[Vajrahridaya]

I think this concern must just come from looking from outside or something...? I dunno, but it's not like that. I have never met a decent Buddhist who blames others. This is not at all the Buddhist teaching. The purpose of karma is of instruction as opposed to explanation. We are learning how to grow, avoid unnecessary suffering, and increase positivity. In Mahayana the emphasis is on being of benefit to all, we do not judge others. As far as compassion is concerned it does not care whether or not somebody is repeatedly stabbing themselves in the eye or if a super-villan does it. The fact that it is their own fault should only increase compassion and concern... "how unbelievably sad it is to see everyone create their own suffering, I must help if I can!"

 

The teaching on karma has nothing to do with punishment. I'm starting to realize that karma is a vastly misunderstood topic. What is really going is that the mind is King. Mind effects the way that we experience things and some of what we experience (to a greater extent than we usually attribute to it). Karma is stored in the mind (and/or Chi energy), but how it manifests is greatly effected by conditions and the environment, it is not a set static thing. The point is not that wrongdoers are punished but that the seeds we plant in our mind will one day give rise to what is in the field we are plowing.

 

http://www.unfetteredmind.com/articles/explain.php

 

Ken McLeod says it much more clearly in a few short articles...

 

 

 

 

 

If I understand what you are saying about switching from holograph to retribution correctly, then you've hit one what I see as one of BuddhaDharma's strongest points, from a slightly negative angle. From the positive perspective the teaching is saying that everything is illusory AND everything you do matters. In my experience it is rare to find those 2 combined. Usually if everything is illusory then people feel they have a free pass, or if everything is so solid then they become extremists, closed to any other perspective. Karma is an important principle in terms of personal growth, it is all about looking within. If we are victim blaming this is not right, and certainly only accumulation of negative karma for ourselves.

 

Ok, you and GIH are explaining this way better than I am. I'll just shut up.

[ralis]

That is all the Buddha is saying, is that you are carrying an energy, either subconsciously or consciously that is manifesting circumstances that reflect this energy. This is explained with more clarity in Vajrayana as opposed to Hinayana explanations. Though of course this wisdom is available for anyone, period, if they would only look. It isn't so black and white and tit-for-tat. It's merely the continuum of energetic patterns in the mind stream. "Karma"

 

 

 

 

 

 

This view creates a concrete personified force in one's mind that is virtually impossible to destroy, liberate, bargain with or overcome. This view is reinforced by gurus that are trapped in the same limiting belief that karma is somehow ubiquitous and relentless. Then at some future date, this insidious force will be somehow purified. Further, it places the responsibility in the unknown past as opposed to the present.

 

Until one stops the addiction of focusing and worshiping gurus, personifying Buddhas or whomever, then one will never truly be free.

 

"Great Men are only the idols of Little Men" Wilhelm Reich

[Vajrahridaya]

Yeah, he really is a walking heart. When I began to connect with the Drikung Kagyu lineage, there were 2 teachers that I felt I really needed to connect with and Garchen was one (the other was Khenchen Konchok Gyaltshen Rinpoche). Even seeing him only once before he passes, I feel very happy. I have that much confidence in him and the meaning of connecting. Anyway, looks like he will be in the area again.

 

According to Kunzang Palchen Ling's facebook:

 

Kunzang Palchen Ling We are very happy to share the news with you that H.E. Garchen Rinpoche will visit KPL in 2011, this time for a weekend teaching! The date has been set for late May, but we would like to wait a little longer with announcing it since the details are still subject to change at this stage of planning.

 

This will be in Red Hood NY (not brooklyn), if you are still in the area perhaps you can meet him. Also, this is a wonderful opportunity to make a connection with the extremely short lineage of Terchen Barway Dorje, and the Bardor Tulku Rinpoche, personal Dharma protector of HH Karmapa... KPL is his main center of activity. Despite being very low-key, Bardor Rinpoche is a maha-siddha, and his qualities are not very hidden as I think he forgets to hide them. It seems pretty clear to me that even though he is one of the most completely aware human beings I've met, everything he is doing in that form, everything most of us can see, is nothing but a side project of his awareness... which is clearly working in many realms simultaneously. He is also married with 3 daughters. Hope you get a chance to go

 

KPL's website: http://www.kunzang.org

 

Bonus: http://www.kunzang.org/dohas/btr-dohas-dpr.html

Amazing Letter from BTR to Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche in relation to samaya, political issues, and HH Karmapa.

 

Dude! WOW!! Ugh... I live in Florida now bro...

 

If you know of anything or hear of anything going on in Florida that is just as brilliant! Pleeeeeease let me know!! PM me... whatever.

[Vajrahridaya]

This view creates a concrete personified force in one's mind that is virtually impossible to destroy, liberate, bargain with or overcome. This view is reinforced by gurus that are trapped in the same limiting belief that karma is somehow ubiquitous and relentless. Then at some future date, this insidious force will be somehow purified. Further, it places the responsibility in the unknown past as opposed to the present.

 

Until one stops the addiction of focusing and worshiping gurus, personifying Buddhas or whomever, then one will never truly be free.

 

"Great Men are only the idols of Little Men" Wilhelm Reich

 

You're still not a rock, so you have the malleable consciousness of a sentient being. I'm sorry... nothing I've ever said has made a single dent in your relentless attack on Buddhism.

 

You can quote endlessly from bitter and jaded people that reflect your ideas. You find what you seek for.

 

Dependent origination/emptiness reveals that there is no concrete force.

 

You must have really been hurt by Christianity and the information that you have read or read into. Maybe you've carried this energy pattern with you for lifetimes and it keeps recycling experiences that solidify this view for you?

 

None the less, it's dependently originated and empty of inherent existence, so is not solid and you do have the power to drop it at any point in time? You too can see more clearly and free yourself from black and white interpretation.

Edited December 12, 2010 by Vajrahridaya

[ralis]

Eh... you just don't get... at least not yet. You're still not a rock, so you have the malleable consciousness of a sentient being. I'm sorry... nothing I've ever said has made a single dent in your relentless attack on Buddhism.

 

You can quote endlessly from bitter and jaded people that reflect your ideas. You find what you seek for.

 

So be it!

 

Also... your statement reveals how little you understand emptiness and dependent origination. There is no concrete force. This seems to always fly over your head, Mr. Mensa.

 

It's actually kind of sad really... you must have really been hurt by Christianity and the information that you have read or read into. Maybe you've carried this energy pattern with you for lifetimes and it keeps recycling experiences that solidify this view for you.

 

None the less, it's dependently originated and empty of inherent existence, so is not solid and you do have the power to drop it at any point in time?

 

 

Tell you what. If you drop your karma, I will drop mine!

[Vajrahridaya]

It's not so much about dropping karma as it is realizing it's emptiness. You still want conditions for re-manifesting enlightened awareness. Unless you truly think that the death of this body is the end, and if you really do invest lots of energy in that idea, it will manifest for you as the jhana of nothingness. Nothing will be your reality for as long as the power and energy that you invested in it persists, due to causes and conditions.

Edited December 12, 2010 by Vajrahridaya