Taoist Master Wang Liping Clarifications & News Report from Lao Zi Academy (http://laoziacademy.us)

[seongye]

It is only kathy encouraging students to come December because she is angry with the April translator, Ms. Kong, for leading the first successful Intensive without her. Kathy asked to be the translator but Grandmaster decided the current translator makes a more appropriate representation, doing a very competent job, practicing diligently, has a very agreeable disposition, and has excellent command of english.

 

If indeed kathy is a doctor, and authorized teacher, then she needs to stop hiding behind these so called titles and logins because Richard Liao did not post the above 'sleeping practice', kathy did this and without Grandmaster's consent because it is not safe for everyone to just start performing this practice without a proper introduction to the basic methods; this is for students who have already completed the foundation training.

 

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[taozen]

as for Grandmaster not having time to answer questions at a public seminar, what do you expect with over 250 people? this is why we are given every opportunity to ask our questions for ten days at his private intensive. don't begin to compare this to a one time five minute online question and answer session with Grandmaster.

 

kathy (personal insults edited by moderator)#### choosing to embrace ONLY the chinese buffet against the wishes of students. students need to know these facts as not to waste their time and investment with unfounded expectations. if you don't go straight to study with Grandmaster you are procrastinating your success.####

[skyfly]

See Vortex's advice below. Please stop editing and performing games by yourself for insulting others. Actually, the sleeping practice" was not originally posted by Kathy in that forum. Please check it out.

That vedeo ( http://www.thetaobum.../page__st__144) in the Vortex's post may help you solve your problems

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But love can only be given, not taken. And that is one thing that your ego can never control. So, egoic control is not the answer here - but will merely continually worsen her problem..

 

(Btw, I am psychoanalyzing and openly speculating about whoever is making these accusations, not her target, lol.. Although this is supposed to be a thread about Master Wang's retreat...it has obviously become merely a proxy for someone else's own internal struggle. This appears to be a classic case of Freudian projection that Byron Katie self-inquiry could definitely help resolve. Lots of meat to work with here...lol. A great opportunity for self-growth, in fact. As there can be no peace with others, until there is peace within yourself! )

 

So, I hope we can all resolve our own issues here and become a functional, loving family. We all have much to contribute together, instead of against one another.

 

 

 

BTW, if you have something against Chinese food or teachers with very poor English - then you probably shouldn't go see Master Wang in China, lol. To me, fluent Chinese or bilingualism is far more important in a Taoist teacher - since all the source material is in Chinese. I (and probably many other students from non-Anglo countries like Russia) could thus care less about 100% grammatically-correct English.. Seriously, who gives a f***?

[taozen]

(Btw, I am psychoanalyzing and openly speculating about whoever is making these accusations, not her target, lol.. Although this is supposed to be a thread about Master Wang's retreat...it has obviously become merely a proxy for someone else's own internal struggle. This appears to be a classic case of Freudian projection that Byron Katie self-inquiry could definitely help resolve. Lots of meat to work with here...lol. A great opportunity for self-growth, in fact. As there can be no peace with others, until there is peace within yourself! )

 

So, I hope we can all resolve our own issues here and become a functional, loving family. We all have much to contribute together, instead of against one another.

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thanks, vortex posted this about kathy :-). anyone who has the arrogance to come to america and not learn english or eat western food is illustrative of also one who is too arrogant to learn taoism properly.

[TaoAlchemist]

the sleeping practice" was not posted by Kathy

RIchard Liao has been contacted by many students of Grandmaster and has personally confirmed that the last time he had time to log into taobums was on February 2nd. He does not support that the sleeping practice is posted publicly (represented falsely by kathy, under Richard's name!) and thus takes no responsibility for any personal injury incurred as a result of incorrect practice.

 

Grandmaster's students urge kathy to exercise proper judgement and to remove this information or prepare to take full responsibility.

[Apech]

*** Mod Team Message ***

 

To all posters on this thread. We have received a number of reports and are looking at them with a view to acting against those who make personal insults.

 

This is a general warning that personal insults and negative posting against other members can result in suspension from TTBs. This is a Taoist Discussion board and while we keep things wide ranging and as free as possible, TTBs is not here for in-fighting or disputes between teachers and practitioners, particularly where the arguments have already been aired on other threads.

 

Please make sure that if you are going to post you make a positive contribution to debate and do not post solely to attack another member. We will take action if you only do the latter.

 

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[kathyli]

Today is the last day for the Chinese Spring Festival ( the day after "Lantern Festival"). We talked to Master Wang for several hours. As disciples, we kotow to him and spoke our greeting and best wishes to our ShiFu. We also wish all the friends here have best luck and success in the rest days of the Rabbit year.

 

We carefully read TTBs FAQ at here, and we appreciate all the time and efforts, which Sean and other friends put. Their valuable time and efforts help the genuine Dao seekers very much.

 

Because we practice "INTERNAL ARTS", we put aside the arguments and personal insults which have already been aired on other threads. Lao Zi Academy tried all the efforts to avoid any disputes. On our hands, we have legality agreements written by Master Wang's guiding and signed by practitioners. We upload the photo copy of one signed agreements here. If this last effort still unable to solve someone's own internal struggle, could we ask the moderator to take action to lock the topic ?

 

---- Kathy on behalf of all the authorized disciples/teachers of Taoist master Wang in the US

 

[Niklas]

I don't understand how people can argue AND be on this forum? There is no right or wrong, so why argue about something that does not exist?

 

Don't forget that

 

Accept disgrace willingly.

Accept misfortune as the human

condition.

 

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Those who know do not talk.

Those who talk do not know.

 

 

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Truthful words are not beautiful.

Beautiful words are not truthful.

Good men do not argue.

Those who argue are not good.

Those who know are not learned.

The learned do not know.