Sunya Posted December 15, 2010 Just thought I would post this. It's from Raduga's ebook. I really don't get why he advertises through sexual marketing like that because with his writing style, he needs to advertise to much more intelligent people. I really enjoy his matter of fact writing style. This is from the beginning of the book and lays down the scheme of it. His writing appeals to an analytical mind like mine, so I'm enjoying it and looking forward to putting it into practice. Â ALGORITHM FOR MASTERING THE PHASE Â A novice practitioner must understand the procedure for learning and mastering phase entry. This procedure consists of several primary steps, each of which is a unique science unto itself. Â 1. The first and most important step addresses the techniques used to enter the phase state. It is not necessary to master every type of entrance technique (direct, indirect, dream consciousness). Learning and applying the easiest techniques provides the necessary prerequisites to more advanced methods. If so desired, it is possible to try more difficult entrance techniques in parallel with the moving on to the subsequent steps for mastering the phase. Â 2. Contrary to popular opinion, the need for conscious techniques does not cease upon phase entrance. It is absolutely necessary to learn and apply methods for deepening the phase to achieve a consistently hyper-realistic environment. Failing to apply deepening techniques almost guarantees that experiences will be dull, uninteresting, and subsequent practice short-lived. Practitioners should immediately learn and apply deepening techniques after mastering any one entrance method. Â 3. The third step involves mastering techniques for maintaining the phase, as without them the average person would have phase experiences of much shorter duration than is possible. When in the phase, the question of how to leave it almost never occurs. On the contrary, one is normally thrust from it in the course of several seconds if one simply does nothing. Â 4. After learning all the necessary techniques for mastering the phase state, it is time to learn and apply methods of control, which encompass the ability to translocate, find and interact with objects, influence surroundings, and so forth. Â 5. Once the previously noted steps have been accomplished, a practitioner may proceed to apply phase experiences to enhance everyday life. Over the course of this guidebook, we will examine dozens of these valuable applications in great detail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seth Ananda Posted December 15, 2010 lol, I too am talking about his pdf which is great, simple and too the point.  And yes it is a pity about the other stuff. The sexual advertizing? maybe some people want Obe's to meet chicks? lol! no its a bit strange, but do not let it detract from the good stuff in his pdf.  I think obe's are fascinating. One motivation for me, is to be in the presence of great Inner level teachers [what ever they actually are?] Another is in there [more easily] I have had amazing experiences of the Natural State... Also it, by its nature, over time develops ones awareness of a space outside the 3rd dimensional time/space system. I think it may have benefits for after death training, astral sex is awesome, and its fun! I think that about covers it  Seth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShaktiMama Posted December 15, 2010 I saw somewhere on the thread that Bruce is into forcing kundalini awake? Â Â Having taught Kundalini awakening since the 90s I would definately say never force the K. Can have some real serious problems result permanently, pain not being the least important. Â Relaxation is of paramount importance in the smooth awakening of K. Â Be relaxed in body, mind, spirit. No tension is the best. Energy doesn't flow through tension...normally ....unless forced. Â This is why secret smile and the microcosmic orbit is so important. The MO will clean out all the crap and help the whole person reach relaxation. It detoxes all the bodies. The secret smile helps transform the negative feelings and energies that arise out of doing the MO. Â Secret smile and MO 20 minutes a day, twice a day. That alone will eventually start your kundalini to awaken. Keep your tongue up. Â susan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 15, 2010  Having taught Kundalini awakening since the 90s I would definately say never force the K. Can have some real serious problems result permanently, pain not being the least important.  susan  Well according to Robert Bruce, it doesn't matter if you taught kundalini awakening since the 80's  You don't know shit about kundalini. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted December 15, 2010 It's hilarious that Robert Bruce is considered an authority. I think his descriptions are interesting and valid, but your opinions are ridiculous alwayson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
suninmyeyes Posted December 15, 2010 Yeah,whats with this rudeboi minimalistic mental karate style always on? Get in touch with your inner teddy bear or something. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ninpo-me-this-ninjutsu-me-that Posted December 15, 2010 Well according to Robert Bruce, it doesn't matter if you taught kundalini awakening since the 80's  You don't know shit about kundalini.  Oh man, what are you on?  Seriously you need to chill the fuck out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ninpo-me-this-ninjutsu-me-that Posted December 15, 2010 Â Get in touch with your inner teddy bear or something. Â Â I think someone already stole his inner teddy bear! That's the problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ninpo-me-this-ninjutsu-me-that Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Â Get in touch with your inner teddy bear or something. Â Â Edit: Double teddy bear post Edited December 15, 2010 by Ninpo-me-this-ninjutsu-me-that 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) I think someone already stole his inner teddy bear! That's the problem. Â Â Â When you raise kundalini with full omniscience and AUUUMMMMM effect, then maybe you got something to say. Edited December 15, 2010 by alwayson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunya Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) When you raise kundalini with full omniscience and AUUUMMMMM effect, then maybe you got something to say. Â alwayson, I would really suggest you relax with the spiritual stuff for a while and work on having loving relationships with people. I mean this in the most sincerest way possible. It's truly amazing how much positive spiritual growth can happen once we let down our guard and just be with another person, warts and all. There's really nothing wrong with you so you have no reason to keep defending yourself here. Edited December 15, 2010 by Sunya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) I don't buy into the New Age love and light nonsense. Edited December 15, 2010 by alwayson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YAN Posted December 16, 2010 Well according to Robert Bruce, it doesn't matter if you taught kundalini awakening since the 80's   ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????  what is that supposed to mean ?  Alwayson I think you meant to write according to ME not Robert Bruce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ninpo-me-this-ninjutsu-me-that Posted December 16, 2010 When you raise kundalini with full omniscience and AUUUMMMMM effect, then maybe you got something to say. Â And maybe when you grow up a bit and learn how to talk to people like they are human beings you will have something intelligent to say. Â Robert Bruce is not your substitute father. You are your own substitute father and one day you will realize that and cease to misplace all of that passion and loyalty of yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) And maybe when you grow up a bit and learn how to talk to people like they are human beings you will have something intelligent to say. Â Robert Bruce is not your substitute father. You are your own substitute father and one day you will realize that and cease to misplace all of that passion and loyalty of yours. Â Â Or maybe I am tired of EVERYONE claiming they have awakened kundalini? Â If you want to inflate your own ego buddy, go for it. I don't do that shit. Not every energy movement is kundalini. Â You all have very big ego's. Its pretty embarrassing. Â "I experience something minor, and now I have awakened kundalini!!!!" Edited December 16, 2010 by alwayson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sloppy Zhang Posted December 16, 2010 Or maybe I am tired of EVERYONE claiming they have awakened kundalini? Â If you want to inflate your own ego buddy, go for it. I don't do that shit. Not every energy movement is kundalini. Â You all have very big ego's. Its pretty embarrassing. Â "I experience something minor, and now I have raised kundalini!!!!" Â So how do you know Robert Bruce has done it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) So how do you know Robert Bruce has done it?   It really has nothing to do with Robert Bruce.  I am just saying how come everyone is a kundalini master while claiming such minor things like "awareness" or some minor chakra activity??  Shit, according to the low bar set for kundalini, even my hamster has raised kundalini  The kundalini concept is so watered down, it means nothing.  The worst I have heard "Oh I had a dream about a snake, therefore I have raised kundalini" LOLLLLLLL Edited December 16, 2010 by alwayson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sloppy Zhang Posted December 16, 2010 It really has nothing to do with Robert Bruce.  I am just saying how come everyone is a kundalini master while claiming such minor things like "awareness" or some minor chakra activity??  Shit, according to the low bar set for kundalini, even my hamster has raised kundalini  The kundalini concept is so watered down, it means nothing.  The worst I have heard "Oh I had a dream about a snake, therefore I have raised kundalini" LOLLLLLLL   Interesting points.  So do you think Robert Bruce has done it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 16, 2010 Â Interesting points. Â So do you think Robert Bruce has done it? Â Â How the hell am I supposed to know? Â Atleast it makes something kundalini more than what it is now. Right now, it is nothing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sloppy Zhang Posted December 16, 2010 How the hell am I supposed to know? Â Atleast it makes something kundalini more than what it is now. Right now, it is nothing. Â Nice points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted December 16, 2010 Alwayson, Â Good luck with your path. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunya Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) I don't buy into the New Age love and light nonsense. Â Love is New Age? It's part of every spiritual tradition, especially Buddhism. That's what compassion is, and it's absolutely necessary because otherwise you just get an inflated ego. Mirror check, that's you. Â You all have very big ego's. Its pretty embarrassing. Â This is called projection. Why not be honest with yourself? How do you rationalize arguing with people on the internet in such a condescending and arrogant way? Is that with those with small egos do? Edited December 16, 2010 by Sunya 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RongzomFan Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) Mirror check, that's you. Â Â Â Who has the more ego? Â Me or someone that judges me? Â Think about that. Â I don't claim to be perfect. Edited December 16, 2010 by alwayson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunya Posted December 16, 2010 I don't claim to be perfect. Â Oh. Â Â If you want to inflate your own ego buddy, go for it. I don't do that shit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunya Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) Who has the more ego?  Me or someone that judges me?  Think about that.  Hmmm..   Well according to Robert Bruce, it doesn't matter if you taught kundalini awakening since the 80's  You don't know shit about kundalini.   Dude, just stop rationalizing and getting defensive. Who are you protecting? Everyone here has commented on how you're being a prick. I'm only offering you advice on how to not have such an effect on people. I'm not perfect either. Edited December 16, 2010 by Sunya 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites