Cameron Posted May 27, 2006 Who do you think wins tomorrow night. I think if Royce taps out Hughes I will have to go back on my word and do BJJ instead of Aikido. Kidding...not really though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smile Posted May 27, 2006 Who do you think wins tomorrow night. I think if Royce taps out Hughes I will have to go back on my word and do BJJ instead of Aikido. Kidding...not really though... Huges. Or Royce. I like them both. Ok, Royce, just because you said Huges, hehe. Did you say Huges, btw? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted May 27, 2006 I don't recall saying Hughes..but if I was betting I would bet Hughes..his only weakness before was getting caught in submissions and he worked on that alot. Rocyce us still a Gracie and can submit anyone any day of the week but Matt's stregth and athleticism may too much. Remember Royce only one those early UFC's because no one knew Gracie Jiu Jitsu. Now all the top fighters know JJ. Cam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sean Posted May 27, 2006 I really like both fighters. I've seen a lot more fights of Hughes though and he seems like a good guy so I think I can't help root for him. And I also have a feeling he will win. He is a mutant and a just an all around great fighter. Sean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smile Posted May 27, 2006 Yeah. The thing with this fight is they are both such nice and humble people. Gracie has a lineage of great fighters and we should never underestimate the power of a lineage. Matt has a skill, dedication and one-pointedness like no other fighter. I still say Gracie just because of a lineage and I feel like choosing one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted May 27, 2006 Ok..I'll go with Hughes..whoever loses buys dinner in NYC, deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted May 27, 2006 (edited) No dinner but, I think Hughes will win, but hope for Gracie. To some extent BJJ's are one trick ponies, its a very good trick, but it can be defended against by an skilled and knowledgable opponents. By the end of there reign, Gracie battles were lasting 10 minutes plus. With modern rules, they'd be separated and get back to stand up where Hughes would have the advantage. But Gracie is much older, lighter and an underdog, I admire his dedication and lineage, I admire him for wearing a gi. One mistake and you're gone with a man like him. Michael Not to beat a dead horse, but remember Cam, BJJ's strength can also be its greatest weakness. Against a single opponent its damn near magic. Against 2, its unusally weak, because you turn your back and lock up your limbs and attention against a single opponent. Edited May 27, 2006 by thelerner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted May 27, 2006 Agreed. Aikido is far superior for multiple attackers. Actually, I would seriously doubt ever using BJJ in a street fight and am sure I would use either strikes or what I learned in Aikido. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smile Posted May 27, 2006 Ok..I'll go with Hughes..whoever loses buys dinner in NYC, deal? Cool. Go Gracie!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted May 28, 2006 So, we're going to Tavern on the Green, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smile Posted May 28, 2006 (edited) No, chinese take out. Who won? Edit: Or better ask: how huges won if he did? Edited May 28, 2006 by Smile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted May 28, 2006 Hughes by brutal Ground and Pound. It was actually sad to watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted May 28, 2006 Details man, details. Michael I wonder when it will be reshown on TV? or evideo Details man, details. Michael I wonder when it will be reshown on TV? or evideo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted May 28, 2006 (edited) Here it is! http://media.putfile.com/Royce-Gracie-vs-Matt-Hughes-UFC-60 Edited May 29, 2006 by Cameron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smile Posted May 29, 2006 Wow, thanks Cam. Matt is trully a champion and I'm glad someone as nice as he can be a positive role model for all the kids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted May 29, 2006 Yes, I am sure many people will eat those Xycience bars(or pills) when they don't have time for there proper country breakfasts. Atleast he's not as bad as Shamrocks coach who says it's all about eating your steak and chicken. Cam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted May 29, 2006 I have to congratulate Royce. Once again stepping into the ring w/ someone 10, 20 years younger, 15, 25 pounds heavier. He showed grace under pressure. With his arm twisted way beyond a conventional arm bar, his face was composed, his body relaxed. The truth may well be that no one in his own age and weight class could beat him or outclass him. Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted May 29, 2006 Actually Matt is only 7 years younger and the weighed in at about the same weight(175). But I get your point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted May 29, 2006 Darn you people armed w/ actual facts Michael Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SheepishLord Posted May 30, 2006 Yo, but Gracie not getting submitted in that arm bar is incredible. In a way, Gracie kinda' won that fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) Hughes was too strong and fast. You can have all the technique in the world not going to help you against a Lion. Edited May 30, 2006 by Cameron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smile Posted May 30, 2006 Cam, can you post the other link with the post-UFC interview with Matt? He was talking about the elbow cracking and the judge seemed to hear it too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted May 30, 2006 I'll have to look for it. In the meantime here is Tim Sylvia on Blind date http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3soctPKTdI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SheepishLord Posted May 30, 2006 I'll have to look for it. In the meantime here is Tim Sylvia on Blind date http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3soctPKTdI Tim surely ain't a champion with the ladies! He's doing so many things wrong it is painful to watch--and that girl isn't even hot!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cameron Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) German chics seem cool.. Edited May 30, 2006 by Cameron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
