Black magic

[heaven chi]

I didn't put correct title to the thread, so made a new one.

 

Hello All,

 

I have contacted a Buddhist teacher about the following problem but I want to hear expert advice from taobums too or anyone here who knows.

 

I have a little experience in meditation and sometimes have heard voices talking about me and saying something about a black magician they would go too, about how they hated me and cursing me.

 

Especially when I sit to meditate I hear voices coming from a distance who are talking about me and discussing the things I am doing at the moment. I've had attack by some entities and if I manage to overcome it, I sometimes hear a voice saying: "He is winning us".

 

So I suspect I'm under a black magic attack which comes from sb in my neighborhood.

 

I talked to a professional specialising in such matters and he told me many many spells that have been done on me.

 

However he demanded relatively high payment to provide help.

 

So now I want to ask taobums for help, is anybody you know teacher here who has some psychic abilities?

 

I want to know why these people are fighting me and what can I do?

 

Thank you all.

I don't disclose details about my name and location because I want to remain anonymous.

[Sloppy Zhang]

This forum has a lot of knowledgeable people in the subject area:

 

http://forums.vsociety.net/

 

And as an aside, I do believe you can edit the title of your posts, so you don't need to go through the trouble of making new threads in the future

Edited January 26, 2011 by Sloppy Zhang

[heaven chi]

This forum has a lot of knowledgeable people in the subject area:

 

http://forums.vsociety.net/

 

And as an aside, I do believe you can edit the title of your posts, so you don't need to go through the trouble of making new threads in the future

 

Thank you for the link. I finally found out how to edit topic title.

 

Any teacher from Taobums who can help? I will check that link above but would be glad if a teacher from Taobums could know and help.

 

Thank you

[RongzomFan]

Thank you for the link. I finally found out how to edit topic title.

 

Any teacher from Taobums who can help? I will check that link above but would be glad if a teacher from Taobums could know and help.

 

Thank you

 

On Feb 1, the new edition of this book is coming out:

 

http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Psychic-Self-Defense-Handbook/dp/1571746390/

 

The old edition is the best book on this stuff, and I suspect the new book will be even better.

[RongzomFan]

can you please describe your problem again in detail?

[Gerard]

Hi there,

 

I have no idea were you live but start protecting your place, first:

 

Protect your house. Excellent info to get the ball rolling is provided in here:

 

http://www.geomancy.net/talknotes/talknotes.htm

 

Also hang the Bagua symbol arranged as Pre-Heaven on your entrance door with a mirror in the center:

 

http://forum.geomancy.net/resources/art/art-pakua.htm

 

Protect yourself. This is a bit more complicated as you need to break the bond already created on you. In Thailand and Cambodia Buddhist Theravada monks make especial amulets and protection tattooos to ward off evil. Maybe you could arrange this sort of protection.

 

You can purchase an amulet from here:

 

http://www.thailand-amulets.net/about-thailand-amulets/

 

Wear it all the time on you, 24/7

 

The tattoo work is a bit tricky as you need to organise a trip to either of those countries. Yantras (protective tattoos) are free of charge though.

 

 

Recite the Buddhist mantra of Ohm Chi Lim so no bad energy will be able to enter your body.

 

 

If you wish, you can send me a photo of yourself and I will send you protective energy.

 

I wish you all the best.

 

Oh Mani Padme Hum.

 

 

 

Note: Stay away from anyone who commands money for spiritual help.

[heaven chi]

Hi there,

 

I have no idea were you live but start protecting your place, first:

 

Protect your house. Excellent info to get the ball rolling is provided in here:

 

http://www.geomancy.net/talknotes/talknotes.htm

 

Also hang the Bagua symbol arranged as Pre-Heaven on your entrance door with a mirror in the center:

 

http://forum.geomancy.net/resources/art/art-pakua.htm

 

Protect yourself. This is a bit more complicated as you need to break the bond already created on you. In Thailand and Cambodia Buddhist Theravada monks make especial amulets and protection tattooos to ward off evil. Maybe you could arrange this sort of protection.

 

You can purchase an amulet from here:

 

http://www.thailand-amulets.net/about-thailand-amulets/

 

Wear it all the time on you, 24/7

 

The tattoo work is a bit tricky as you need to organise a trip to either of those countries. Yantras (protective tattoos) are free of charge though.

 

 

Recite the Buddhist mantra of Ohm Chi Lim so no bad energy will be able to enter your body.

 

 

If you wish, you can send me a photo of yourself and I will send you protective energy.

 

I wish you all the best.

 

Oh Mani Padme Hum.

 

 

 

 

Note: Stay away from anyone who commands money for spiritual help.

 

Thanks for all the information and help will check it out.

 

How many times should I chant om chi lim and when (morning, evening?)

Edited January 26, 2011 by heaven chi

[heaven chi]

can you please describe your problem again in detail?

 

I don't want to give too many details publically if you want I can pm you for more.

 

Basically, I'm having attacks by entities now and then coupled with psychic telepathy stuff of at least two persons watching me daily.

[RongzomFan]

I don't want to give too many details publically if you want I can pm you for more.

 

Basically, I'm having attacks by entities now and then coupled with psychic telepathy stuff of at least two persons watching me daily.

 

 

There is always Enochian Magick. Read Enochian Vision Magick by Lon Milo Duquette.

 

http://www.evocationmagic.com/viewforum.php?f=17&sid=63670c3363eccced0b9b8b84a599bbcc

Edited January 26, 2011 by alwayson

[Gerard]

Thanks for all the information and help will check it out.

 

How many times should I chant om chi lim and when (morning, evening?)

 

 

Every time you meditate, prior you start with the meditation per se. Chant for 20-30 mins and then meditate. You should meditate twice a day minimum.

 

Practice post standing a lot. That will build up your internal energy and make your spirit stronger which will ward off negative energy. Meditate close to trees as some of the nature devas may come in for your help (I have had this experience happening to me several times in the form of dragons and angel beings); you can pray to angel-devas for help before you go to sleep or any spirit guides that reveal to you with white light, or Guanyin bodhisattva:

 

 

Also visualise a white energy surrounding you as often as you can. Also make sure you send positive energy and Metta to your attacking entities (radiating in each of the six directions/forward and backward, left and right, up and down, to whatever beings there may be including all the different entities that are trying to attack you because they are ignorant of the Dharma). Remember that your spiritual purification will also help those ignorant spirits to improve their karma and realise their true nature.

 

Listen to this mantra often in your place:

 

 

 

Blessings,

 

[theELementalist]

I didn't put correct title to the thread, so made a new one.

 

Hello All,

 

I have contacted a Buddhist teacher about the following problem but I want to hear expert advice from taobums too or anyone here who knows.

 

I have a little experience in meditation and sometimes have heard voices talking about me and saying something about a black magician they would go too, about how they hated me and cursing me.

 

Especially when I sit to meditate I hear voices coming from a distance who are talking about me and discussing the things I am doing at the moment. I've had attack by some entities and if I manage to overcome it, I sometimes hear a voice saying: "He is winning us".

 

So I suspect I'm under a black magic attack which comes from sb in my neighborhood.

 

I talked to a professional specialising in such matters and he told me many many spells that have been done on me.

 

However he demanded relatively high payment to provide help.

 

So now I want to ask taobums for help, is anybody you know teacher here who has some psychic abilities?

 

I want to know why these people are fighting me and what can I do?

 

Thank you all.

I don't disclose details about my name and location because I want to remain anonymous.

 

i have some knowledge in this area. ignore them. they want your attention. completely forget about it.

[Gerard]

i have some knowledge in this area. ignore them. they want your attention. completely forget about it.

 

Not as easy as you are saying. Honestly one they are attached getting rid of the entity involves a lot of work. I wish it was as easy as you said though, but it's not

 

Let me give you a practical example:

 

"Subject X...University lecturer, good income, stable life, quite a healthy and normal guy, 50 something years of age. Suddenly for no reason becomes severely ill and becomes hospitalised. Western doctors have no clue about the guy's condition and think it's some sort of unknown viral infection. Eventually once is condition becomes more stable they send him home and prescribe him rest and care by a family member as the guy can't go anywhere, hence unable to work and support himself. He eventually become so weak that is basically lying on his bed unable to move, extremely weak and as pale as a rakshasa hungry ghost.

 

Healer X. A friend of mine, a medium and very powerful distance healer, is called by a relative of the University lecturer as they are desperately trying to help him. My friend agrees to heal the man but she needs to get his pemission first. He agrees and she starts to perform her healing work from her home and during sitting meditation practice. She gets in touch with subject X and sees a white octopus attached to his throat chakra. She finds out (don't ask me why because I don't really know) that subject X had an infortunate encounter with the "parasite" during an astral travel to the point where the thing piggybacked him via that specific chakra. Healer X spent 6 months on the subject as her work involved dissolving the entity and the head proved very difficult to remove. After 2 months of intensive work on the head the octopus was finally dissolved. To this day that was the hardest healing work my friend has ever been involved with due to the strength of attachment of the astral parasite to this subject and the time required to successfully remove it.

 

After 3 days the subject regaines all his health and returned to his University job."

 

Do you think that ignoring the entity in this case would have been enough? Well, if that guy didn't undergo spiritual healing I can guarantee you he wouldn't be in this astral plane today.

 

Blessings,

 

Edited January 27, 2011 by Gerard

[Sahaj Nath]

maybe not as tremendous a problem as you might think.

 

if you like, you can PM me and i'll see what i can do. i'll want details about your background, your training, your age & education level, the severity of the occasions, when this all started, your location, and anything else you think might be relevant. share more than you think is necessary; that way, i'll have fewer follow-up questions.

 

it may be a simple matter of integration and balancing. but for starters, whatever it turns out to be, you really want to STOP calling it black magic; that only adds fuel to the fire. it's okay to prefer a different state of being, but avoid labeling something an evil force that you must struggle or do battle against. such a mindset can be a pathology in and of itself, and is more likely to drag you out of touch with reality

 

 

Not as easy as you are saying. Honestly one they are attached getting rid of the entity involves a lot of work. I wish it was as easy as you said though, but it's not

 

Let me give you a practical example:

 

...

 

Healer X spent 6 months on the subject as her work involved dissolving the entity and the head proved very difficult to remove. After 2 months of intensive work on the head the octopus was finally dissolved...

 

Do you think that ignoring the entity in this case would have been enough? Well, if that guy didn't undergo spiritual healing I can guarantee you he wouldn't be in this astral plane today.

 

Blessings,

 

 

i'm curious to know the healer's modality(ies). sounds like an awful long time for an issue that's not so complicated. destroying the entity probably wasn't even necessary. it certainly wasn't expedient. i seldom spend that kind of time with late stage cancer, which has physical materiality! plus, it sounds as if the patient played no role in his own healing process?

 

perhaps there's more to the story. i'd really like to know the rest of it. that is, if you're willing to share.

 

this isn't to start a fight or anything. i really want to understand the whole picture. you can PM it if you prefer, but it might prove to be a worthwhile exploration for the forum as well.

[Gerard]

i'm curious to know the healer's modality(ies).

 

Just a healer.

 

...sounds like an awful long time for an issue that's not so complicated. destroying the entity probably wasn't even necessary.

 

There are different approaches, she followed that one and if it helped the suffering human, then more than welcome. I have no idea about the origin of that entity but my guess it an old emotion crystallised after the death of a sentient being (human or animal) which remained in the astral and retained a consciousness of its own and got attached to someone with an underlying serious emotional issue like our University lecturer.

 

That entity is Yin and as such uncapable of evolving and acquiring a Yang nature (birth) as well as well as having intrinsic Buddha nature. In other words, it's a chunk of etheric energy which requires a host that vibrates with similar frequency (emotional in our case).

 

Dissolving the entity is a painfully slow approach. Way too much energy. Personally I would have sent the patient to a shaman for a more energetic and drastic approach, but hey you just can't send people to Siberia or the Amazon like that. It's not always convenient and financially feasible (travel expenses).

 

Anyway thanks for your interest, Hundun.

 

Blessings,

 

Edited January 27, 2011 by Gerard

[electric gravity]

welcome to the very real spiritual war. i have dealt with this as well. Until i was actually approached by people working for this side. They offered me an all seeing eye bracelet and they wanted me to join them. I declined. This was right before i found my current teacher who put me on the correct path. Pray and go to god. beaware of their manipulation. You can tell this happens when you have unnatrual thoughts pop in your head. Just continue to train, pray and ignore them.

[Sahaj Nath]

Just a healer.

 

 

 

There are different approaches, she followed that one and if it helped the suffering human, then more than welcome.

 

well duh, yeah, that holds true for any healer. if you didn't wanna talk about it or feel it appropriate to explore here, you could have just said so. (i'm guessing that's what you're saying in your comment.) still, i say that this the PERFECT kind of thing that can be examined and discussed or debated in a forum like this. plenty of healers around here from different backgrounds that can weigh in, and we can all learn something, or at least be exposed to a different way of looking at it. but whatevs, it's all good. like i said, i wasn't picking a fight or anything.

 

...In other words, it's a chunk of etheric energy which requires a host that vibrates with similar frequency (emotional in our case).

 

my thinking exactly. it would have been much faster to shift the vibrational frequency of the host, and then the entity would have disengaged as if sucking on milk that suddenly turned sour.

 

Dissolving the entity is a painfully slow approach. Way too much energy. Personally I would have sent the patient to a shaman for a more energetic and drastic approach, but hey you just can't send people to Siberia or the Amazon like that. It's not always convenient and financially feasible (travel expenses).

 

not to mention, UNNECESSARY. Siberia or the Amazon? plenty of powerful people right here, with more knowledge and understanding than most of the folks out there in the sticks. the modern western world is not just populated with spiritual morons who can only borrow from the traditionalists. many of us can go every bit as deep, in some cases even deeper, PLUS, we have the advantage of understanding more about psychology, physiology, quantum physics, and chaos, than any of the older traditions. what used to require an exorcism and all manner of esoteric workings nowadays just might require a healing mantra, a simple exercise routine, and a dietary change. it's worth considering.

[heaven chi]

Thank you all. You all give good advice.

Thank you Gerard.

 

Dear Hundun I will PM you with more information and thank you for offering to help.

Edited January 27, 2011 by heaven chi

[Gauss]

Hi there!

 

I believe this is not so easy to get rid of without any effort.

 

I recommend you to read the book Zhuan Falun to understand these matters better.

 

Book link:

 

http://www.falundafa.org/eng/books.html

 

You can try to recite the following words with belief when you are in trouble:

 

"Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good, Falun Dafa is good."

 

 

 

WISH YOU GOOD LUCK!

 

/GAUSS

[RongzomFan]

I am still waiting to hear something bad. You simply are clairaudient when you meditate. So what?

 

What are these "attacks"?

[RongzomFan]

BTW, I see you asked on Veritas.

 

The people on Veritas are all newbs even the supposedly knowledgeable ones.

 

I am familiar with the Key of Solomon, Lesser key of Solomon, Enochian magick, Arbatel, Vajrayana and pretty much everything occult.

 

Try enochian magick. It is powerful white magick, that summons "angels".

Edited January 27, 2011 by alwayson

[phore]

Hi heaven chi, If you will send me a picture of yourself, I will can send you several layers of shielding that will repell negative energies and black magic. I can probably get a few of my friends in my psychic defense group that i practice with to help shield you too.

[heaven chi]

BTW, I see you asked on Veritas.

 

The people on Veritas are all newbs even the supposedly knowledgeable ones.

 

I am familiar with the Key of Solomon, Lesser key of Solomon, Enochian magick, Arbatel, Vajrayana and pretty much everything occult.

 

Try enochian magick. It is powerful white magick, that summons "angels".

 

I didn't know you are so knowledgable. I will PM you my email address and ask your help. Thank you!

[heaven chi]

Hi heaven chi, If you will send me a picture of yourself, I will can send you several layers of shielding that will repell negative energies and black magic. I can probably get a few of my friends in my psychic defense group that i practice with to help shield you too.

 

Thank you. I will send you. Will this shielding help against being sucked of my energy by entities?

[heaven chi]

I am still waiting to hear something bad. You simply are clairaudient when you meditate. So what?

 

What are these "attacks"?

 

I sent you a pm where I describe some of the attacks.

[mYTHmAKER]

Every time you meditate, prior you start with the meditation per se. Chant for 20-30 mins and then meditate. You should meditate twice a day minimum.

 

Practice post standing a lot. That will build up your internal energy and make your spirit stronger which will ward off negative energy. Meditate close to trees as some of the nature devas may come in for your help (I have had this experience happening to me several times in the form of dragons and angel beings); you can pray to angel-devas for help before you go to sleep or any spirit guides that reveal to you with white light, or Guanyin bodhisattva:

 

 

Also visualise a white energy surrounding you as often as you can. Also make sure you send positive energy and Metta to your attacking entities (radiating in each of the six directions/forward and backward, left and right, up and down, to whatever beings there may be including all the different entities that are trying to attack you because they are ignorant of the Dharma). Remember that your spiritual purification will also help those ignorant spirits to improve their karma and realise their true nature.

 

Listen to this mantra often in your place:

 

 

 

Blessings,

 

 

I find the above version of the chant a bit like pop music without any shakti.

Try this one

http://www.circle-of...as/KuanYin.html

 

It play with my firefox browser but not with safari