DalTheJigsaw123 Posted January 28, 2011 Thoughts on External Meditation like Yoga/Tai Chi vs Internal Meditation, like Zen and Vipassana Meditation? Thanks, Leon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mattimo Posted January 28, 2011 Thoughts on External Meditation like Yoga/Tai Chi vs Internal Meditation, like Zen and Vipassana Meditation? Thanks, Leon In my opinion yoga and tai chi are more holistic in their approach in that the practices do not negate the body like zen and vipassana appear to. The effects of movement arts that involve the quality, refinement and coordination of physical action is more tangible than meditation alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sifusufi Posted January 28, 2011 My best would be... External = Focus eyes open or partially on a crystal ball, candle, tree. Internal = Taoist five colour alchemy where the Organs are focused on with their appropriate colour visualized. Interesting! Thanks for throwin' this out here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dainin Posted January 28, 2011 Thoughts on External Meditation like Yoga/Tai Chi vs Internal Meditation, like Zen and Vipassana Meditation? Thanks, Leon Why put them in opposition? Do both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted January 28, 2011 absolutely do both. @sifusufi, the crystal ball is supposed to be good for eye health, right? i like the candle. many old tai chi books say it is necessary to do meditation to get the full benefits from tai chi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky7Strikes Posted January 28, 2011 IMO, people should practice both, but also put in more effort towards their weaker aspect, so someone who is withdrawn should practice more external meditation, and someone who is outgoing should turn their focus inwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddie Posted January 28, 2011 I like this topic as it is something I have pondered quite a bit as well. I do both, such as externally the 8 brocades, and internally work on the five organs, and MCO. Ideally I try to do both equally, though this does not always happen depending on what I feel my greatest needs are at the time. For example this week I have not done a whole lot of the brocades, but focused more on the inner smile/colors/elemetns for the organs as I feel that my greatest challenge has been more emotional. Yet another week for example I might feel pretty neutral emotionally, but physically feel very stiff, fidgety, ect... so I would put more emphasis on the brocades. Even then though, when I do the brocades I tend to combine them with the healing sounds to deepen their effect. I have experimented with doing the brocades when my cheif issue was emotional, and what my observation has been is that it does help to settle me emotionally, but in a more surface way, and that if I want to make deeper longer lasting progress internal meditation takes me further. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Birch Posted January 29, 2011 I dunno. I don't reckon practices that keep your current perspectives are really worth doing. Because you can have those anyway. I reckon maybe practices that edge you slightly might be worth considering. Ahum, but where IMO/IME it gets difficult Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DalTheJigsaw123 Posted January 29, 2011 not a bad idea lucky. But what if one has a sitting meditation, wherein one is gathering energy from the universe, near and far? That's pretty darn external! Interesting! Would love to hear more! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites