the weak yin male cannot find balance

[Encephalon]

I just recently got this material from "Self-Esteem: Your Fundamental Power" by Caroline Myss. It's a series of lectures on CD that I checked out of the library and loaded into my Ipod.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Self-Esteem-Fundamental-Power-Caroline-Myss/dp/1591790344/ref=sr_1_18?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297646275&sr=1-18

 

Eliminating self-loathing has sort of been a mission of mine this past year, so I've poured over a lot of material, but this woman gets my highest rating. She's also completely familiar with energy work and the psychology of the chakras, so that makes her one of the coolest women alive, in my opinion.

Ultimately, she says you cannot meditate or study your way to self-esteem; action, as well as body-centered awareness, is necessary to re-wire the physiology.

 

Looks like there are CDs available for under $8.

[ben]

I just recently got this material from "Self-Esteem: Your Fundamental Power" by Caroline Myss. It's a series of lectures on CD that I checked out of the library and loaded into my Ipod.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Self-Esteem-Fundamental-Power-Caroline-Myss/dp/1591790344/ref=sr_1_18?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1297646275&sr=1-18

 

Eliminating self-loathing has sort of been a mission of mine this past year, so I've poured over a lot of material, but this woman gets my highest rating. She's also completely familiar with energy work and the psychology of the chakras, so that makes her one of the coolest women alive, in my opinion.

Ultimately, she says you cannot meditate or study your way to self-esteem; action, as well as body-centered awareness, is necessary to re-wire the physiology.

 

Looks like there are CDs available for under $8.

Cool, I will check that out. Martial arts have helped me considerable with self-esteem but also got me arrested. I was a little late in realizing the healing and balancing effects of noting the breath.

[JohnC]

Yin males don't get anywhere in this life but death. Being yin as a male, by birth, with their ancestral qi brings nothing but harm and death.

 

Assertion about how the world works, but isn't necessarily true.

 

 

What do you see yang females do? They find an extreme yang male who dominates them so much so that they transform become yin. So what does a yin male do?

 

Sometimes. Not always though.

 

Why can't a weak yin male (which is a false yin) and find a true excessive yin and yang female who strengthens the already weak yin and transform so his yang is thereby strengthened?

Probably can.

 

 

There will never be a female who would truly tolerate a yin male.

Subjective assertion again.

 

The point being, that this is subjective to YOU, about how the world works and what is or isn't.

 

But.

 

Men naturally are more yang, and women more yin. And what I have seen is when men do their work, in clearing out psych trauma, stored emotion, and bullshit ideas, beliefs, and perceptions, they become very yang.

 

And women, very yin.

 

 

But then more questions come in, like is confidence yang/yin?

 

Furthermore does it matter?

 

The real question is, why did you post this? Cause I'd say it has to do with some distress around not wanting to be yin, and thinking you need to fix yourself.

 

There is nothing more 'beta', than trying to be 'alpha'. And there is nothing more 'alpha' than just being your self.

 

Differently said,

 

There is nothing more insecure than trying to be confident. And there is nothing more confident, than just being your self.

 

John

Edited February 14, 2011 by JohnC

[JohnC]

How about increasing your testosterone Non? Trunk talked about some sort of device to have arround your balls or penis that was great at increasing testosterone. It will make you more yang. You can also start lifting wegihts in the way that increases testosterone the most (research technique for this). You can also add testosterone increasing food. You current diet is probably making you too Yin.

 

Ring of power.

 

And yes, very recommended.

 

It's like that your mentality/energy creates the hormones, and the hormones create the mentality/energy.

 

That everything is energy and the like.

 

John

[markern]

 

 

Men naturally are more yang, and women more yin. And what I have seen is when men do their work, in clearing out psych trauma, stored emotion, and bullshit ideas, beliefs, and perceptions, they become very yang.

 

And women, very yin.

 

 

 

 

Any theories on why it works that way?

 

Here is what Trunk has to say about the ring of power/fire (at the bottom of the page):

 

http://www.precisiondocs.com/~altaoism/MsgCrystalUranus.htm#RoP

 

I am not sure it this is the best dealer but here is one page where you can buy it:

 

http://megabiz.net/

 

Also you might consider doing a bit of the crystal in uranus stuff described there as it gets your jing moving and so should be good for laying the groundwork in this regard. It apparently does not have to be done very often but every now and then to keep things moving. Probably especially good for those attempting periods of celibacy.

 

What results have you gotten from the ring Jhon C and how often do you use it?

Edited February 14, 2011 by markern

[bodyoflight]

The reason it seems hopeless is because you are in a rut, and various aspects of cognitive bias are feeding your conviction that you're in a rut and that you won't change.

 

It's also easy to get in a rut when you look at things too abstractly.

 

If you break things down into doable steps, then things are doable. You aren't depressed and things don't seem hopeless. All you have to do is put one foot in front of another.

 

So here are some steps:

 

1) Make an assessment of your life. Your habits. Your schedule. The people you hang out with. Your hobbies. Etc.

2) What about these do you like? What about these do you not like?

3) What are your long term goals?

4) How do you get to those long term goals?

a. What activities do you need to do to start those goals?

b. Who can you contact/meet with to start along the path to those goals?

 

And things of that nature.

 

For instance, you mentioned how to be successful you have to be cutthroat and hurt people. But that's not always the case, there are lots of non-profit groups that work various humanitarian projects in order to help people. Lots of very caring people are involved in those.

 

You could search for local non-profit groups, find ones that pique your interest, then contact ones to see how you can volunteer to help out. Along the way you'll get experience which could help you get other work (non-profit or otherwise), and you'll probably meet a lot of people who share some of the same goals.

 

On top of that, it'll get you out and about. You'll start to feel better about yourself because you know that you can start helping and you can do stuff.

 

Non's consciousness is in the animalistic state of existence right now. You are just wasting your time with him.

[markern]

Ah yes, well since until very recently I had been living in Alaska, where in the winter its dark practically all the time, I can relate to this dilema. One thing I would do up there in the winter is to eat more yang foods like spices, curry, ginger, meat. That is also where I really got into martial arts, as yang activities such as martial arts where we did a lot of sparring, bag work, ect... also were effective in making one more yang. I'm sure there are many ways to increase yang, though I'd always heard that grounding was actually a way of increasing your yin, and was a remedy for being too yang.

 

Well, I don`t know if natural grounding has anything to do with grounding in the sense we normally think about here. It involves looking at music videos of some select young women that have a very natural, happy, free, perfectly yin being and focusing on how their energy makes you feel and then sit and meditate on that feeling. I am not quite sure how it works but I tried it and I did feel a strong cooling energy from looking at a video with on of the girls they recommend, Palmy. THis soothed me and I can see how this would, if done a lot, sort of build your inner yin energy in a way that makes you self supplied so that you become less needy. It is also supposed to make you apreaciate women when they are in their natural yin state and it will move your energy towards a yang state that matches this as a fitting polar opposite or something like that. I did after looking at her a few times and sensing the energy start to feel not only a cooling energy but what felt like yang energy awakening as a result. I haven`t really looked into this much so I can`t say to much with certainty about it but the people in their forums say the results are very good. Supposedly after a period of "rebooting" it diminishes a lot of your desire to look at porn and makes you appreciate women for their personalities more than sex objects. These changes supposedly does a lot of the work needed to make you a "natural" with women. Probably because the inner changes you make will change your hormones etc. in a way that matches a "natural".

[JohnC]

Any theories on why it works that way?

 

Here is what Trunk has to say about the ring of power/fire (at the bottom of the page):

 

http://www.precisiondocs.com/~altaoism/MsgCrystalUranus.htm#RoP

 

I am not sure it this is the best dealer but here is one page where you can buy it:

 

http://megabiz.net/

 

What results have you gotten from the ring Jhon C and how often do you use it?

 

Well.. maybe I spoke too soon.

 

I think they return to their original nature, cause it's like some guys are gay whcih is yin?...

 

But yea, that you clear out all social conditioning, prejudices, anger towards others, emotion towards the past and future, challenge assumptions and basic ideas about the world, and let go of shame(about sex, love, life)

 

That everyday you let something go.

 

And all thats left... is you.

 

Not what you 'should' be, to be happy, not what others/your family/whatever think you should do to be happy.

 

And the energy work and the like are part and parcel to this.

 

That it's mind and body work. Not one or the other, but both.

 

This guy has spoken on this in different terms:

http://www.nityama.com/blog

 

I find the rop to be really useful, sex drive goes up, and testosterone, and could probably be used in conjunction with cultivate. I know that I have a lot more cum load when I wear it.

 

Although I have heard people have trouble with it if they wear it 24/7. Basically that your body needs a rest and if you wear it all the time, your body is constantly producing. Burns you out.

 

Have to have some downtime.

 

So periods of wearing it, then off.

 

-----

 

Oh, and the natural grounding practice was a random practice made by a dude, that doesn't necessarily know what he's doing.

 

Just a bunch of hearsay and newageness.

 

John

Edited February 14, 2011 by JohnC

[gendao]

Eliminating self-loathing has sort of been a mission of mine this past year, so I've poured over a lot of material, but this woman gets my highest rating. She's also completely familiar with energy work and the psychology of the chakras, so that makes her one of the coolest women alive, in my opinion.

I agree that our core struggles are usually self-esteem issues. And until we resolve these issues, we will be enslaved and driven by them like puppets... This all ties in with Byron Katie's method of self-inquiry..

 

I'm curious what Caroline's method is, though? Essentially, what are these "special guided exercises for cultivating healthy, vibrant self-esteem?" If they're not meditation or psychological self-inquiry?

 

 

 

I think Non is struggling with some legitimate issues, though. "Yin" men do occupy the lowest rung in sexual society - both mocked by men and rejected by women. Women would generally prefer a "bad" yang man to a "good" yin man. So, sounds like his defining struggle in life may relate to how to resolve this (or a deeper underlying) issue... It's probably no coincidence why he was born like this. He is in fact brutally confronting the very issue he was supposed to face in this life. Denying any of this would only be counterproductive. The real question then is what is the resolution??

 

 

 

But first, I think the problem has to be truly reduced down to its very root and clearly defined...to solve it. This requires a lot of progressive inquiry.

 

What is it he really seeks?

If he could remain as "yin" as he is - yet somehow enjoy tons of sexual female validation - would he be happy?

If he could become much more masculine - regardless of if he attracted more women or not - would he be happy?

If women started preferring "good" or "yin" males - would he be happy?

Is he upset because "good" men get punished and "bad" men rewarded in our post-counterculture society now, moreso than ever?

Is he upset that women are just as "bad," if not worse, than most men now?

Does he subconsciously feel like he deserves to be punished for being good?

Etc...

 

Forgetting about external validation for a moment...it's important to nail down EXACTLY what the underlying INTERNAL issue within us is here - in order to fully resolve it. Non's issues cover a lot of ground with the "ugly" intersection of life, morality & sex - but I don't think have been precisely pinpointed down to a singularity on this forum here yet. And until THAT happens - I don't see an effective solution.

Edited February 14, 2011 by vortex

[bodyoflight]

I agree that our core struggles are usually self-esteem issues. And until we resolve these issues, we will be enslaved and driven by them like puppets... This all ties in with Byron Katie's method of self-inquiry..

 

I'm curious what Caroline's method is, though? Essentially, what are these "special guided exercises for cultivating healthy, vibrant self-esteem?" If they're not meditation or psychological self-inquiry?

 

 

 

I think Non is struggling with some legitimate issues, though. "Yin" men do occupy the lowest rung in sexual society - both mocked by men and rejected by women. Women would generally prefer a "bad" yang man to a "good" yin man. So, sounds like his defining struggle in life may relate to how to resolve this (or a deeper underlying) issue... It's probably no coincidence why he was born like this. He is in fact brutally confronting the very issue he was supposed to face in this life. Denying any of this would only be counterproductive. The real question then is what is the resolution??

 

 

 

But first, I think the problem has to be truly reduced down to its very root and clearly defined...to solve it. This requires a lot of progressive inquiry.

 

What is it he really seeks?

If he could remain as "yin" as he is - yet somehow enjoy tons of sexual female validation - would he be happy?

If he could become much more masculine - regardless of if he attracted more women or not - would he be happy?

If women started preferring "good" or "yin" males - would he be happy?

Is he upset because "good" men get punished and "bad" men rewarded in our post-counterculture society now, moreso than ever?

Is he upset that women are just as "bad," if not worse, than most men now?

Does he subconsciously feel like he deserves to be punished for being good?

Etc...

 

Forgetting about external validation for a moment...it's important to nail down EXACTLY what the underlying INTERNAL issue within us is here - in order to fully resolve it. Non's issues cover a lot of ground with the "ugly" intersection of life, morality & sex - but I don't think have been precisely pinpointed down to a singularity on this forum here yet. And until THAT happens - I don't see an effective solution.

 

I am not sure what is your definition of "yin" men but you know bill gates is a nerd and hardly a jock and he is like the richest man in history.

 

Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg .. a total nerd.. and if you watched the facebook movie, he is as yin as you can get and yet he is like the youngest billionaire in history..

 

Hardly any millionaires or billionaires I know make their fortune being too yang .. that will fly in the face of business negotiations and in order to make money, you have to be yin..

 

as the Chinese said, a bamboo flexes in the strong wind but it will never break..

 

yin men occupy the lowest rung in our society? more like they occupy the top rungs in society instead and the yang men occupy the lowest rungs in our society,,

 

who are the yang men? well policemen are pretty yang.. so are soldiers..

 

and what happens to these "yang" men.. they end up as slaves and servants to the "yin" men who become masters of the modern world's society..

 

even those nba stars (who are quite yang) have to take their marching orders from the team owners who are mostly millionaires and billionaires..

 

and do they get to be millionaires and billionaires by being "yang"? i hardly think so..

 

Non, stop being an animal and open your eyes to how the game is truly being played..

 

IN SUMMARY, the yang men, the soldiers, policemen, labourers end up as slaves of the yin men, the corporates, the politicans..

Edited February 14, 2011 by bodyoflight

[gendao]

yin men occupy the lowest rung in our society? more like they occupy the top rungs in society instead and the yang men occupy the lowest rungs in our society,,

 

and do they get to be millionaires and billionaires by being "yang"? i hardly think so..

 

Non, stop being an animal and open your eyes to how the game is truly being played..

I said SEXUAL society - Non's specific focus in his rants here.

 

The examples you cite are all of "yin nerds" who "overachieved" arguably in attempts to compensate for their "yin nerdiness."

 

But cool yang males don't have to do that - because they don't need to. They naturally get respect from their male peers and plenty of willing groupies without having to "achieve" much otherwise. Simply due to their more masculine physiology.

 

Hence, an unemployed masculine stud will still get 10X more women than Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg ever does...

 

I think your worldview is a materialistic one - where cash is king and the ultimate measure of your self-worth. But, financial and sexual sectors are 2 different circles with vastly different criteria and pecking orders... And although they may have had far more intersection in the past - they have increasingly diverged within the past few decades with the rise of feminism. Simply put - women now have more choice to outsource their sexual and financial needs separately now.

Edited February 14, 2011 by vortex

[JohnC]

I promote Non's exploration.

 

The very suppression of these things is also part of the problem. Rather than people coming on and doing the "I KNOW THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS! And you need to stop talking about this because I DON'T LIKE IT!"

 

Open discussion can lead to better conclusions and more open opinions.

 

John

[Non]

Ring of power.

 

And yes, very recommended.

 

It's like that your mentality/energy creates the hormones, and the hormones create the mentality/energy.

 

That everything is energy and the like.

 

John

 

Isnt that just similar to the Deer Exercise? Have you ever heard of jelqing the testicles? I used to do it, to make them hang you know...

[Non]

Well, I don`t know if natural grounding has anything to do with grounding in the sense we normally think about here. It involves looking at music videos of some select young women that have a very natural, happy, free, perfectly yin being and focusing on how their energy makes you feel and then sit and meditate on that feeling. I am not quite sure how it works but I tried it and I did feel a strong cooling energy from looking at a video with on of the girls they recommend, Palmy. THis soothed me and I can see how this would, if done a lot, sort of build your inner yin energy in a way that makes you self supplied so that you become less needy. It is also supposed to make you apreaciate women when they are in their natural yin state and it will move your energy towards a yang state that matches this as a fitting polar opposite or something like that. I did after looking at her a few times and sensing the energy start to feel not only a cooling energy but what felt like yang energy awakening as a result. I haven`t really looked into this much so I can`t say to much with certainty about it but the people in their forums say the results are very good. Supposedly after a period of "rebooting" it diminishes a lot of your desire to look at porn and makes you appreciate women for their personalities more than sex objects. These changes supposedly does a lot of the work needed to make you a "natural" with women. Probably because the inner changes you make will change your hormones etc. in a way that matches a "natural".

 

I think thaat sort of thing happens naturally when you are celibate for a while and do it properly.

[Non]

I agree that our core struggles are usually self-esteem issues. And until we resolve these issues, we will be enslaved and driven by them like puppets... This all ties in with Byron Katie's method of self-inquiry..

 

I'm curious what Caroline's method is, though? Essentially, what are these "special guided exercises for cultivating healthy, vibrant self-esteem?" If they're not meditation or psychological self-inquiry?

 

 

 

I think Non is struggling with some legitimate issues, though. "Yin" men do occupy the lowest rung in sexual society - both mocked by men and rejected by women. Women would generally prefer a "bad" yang man to a "good" yin man. So, sounds like his defining struggle in life may relate to how to resolve this (or a deeper underlying) issue... It's probably no coincidence why he was born like this. He is in fact brutally confronting the very issue he was supposed to face in this life. Denying any of this would only be counterproductive. The real question then is what is the resolution??

 

 

 

But first, I think the problem has to be truly reduced down to its very root and clearly defined...to solve it. This requires a lot of progressive inquiry.

 

What is it he really seeks?

If he could remain as "yin" as he is - yet somehow enjoy tons of sexual female validation - would he be happy?

If he could become much more masculine - regardless of if he attracted more women or not - would he be happy?

If women started preferring "good" or "yin" males - would he be happy?

Is he upset because "good" men get punished and "bad" men rewarded in our post-counterculture society now, moreso than ever?

Is he upset that women are just as "bad," if not worse, than most men now?

Does he subconsciously feel like he deserves to be punished for being good?

Etc...

 

Forgetting about external validation for a moment...it's important to nail down EXACTLY what the underlying INTERNAL issue within us is here - in order to fully resolve it. Non's issues cover a lot of ground with the "ugly" intersection of life, morality & sex - but I don't think have been precisely pinpointed down to a singularity on this forum here yet. And until THAT happens - I don't see an effective solution.

 

I guess nobody here understands, that sexual inadequacy or being a virgin up into the late 20s and 30s etc, is perhaps the most self esteem diminishing thing a man can go through, so much so in fact it can be very permanent. It makes him question his sexual identity, his purpose his spirituality, his yin or yangness, etc. A person can go through suffering but of this type there is usually no turning back, and even if you go through extreme suffering, couple it with this and it indefinitely seals the deal especially the longer you stay this way. It really becomes a vicious cycle too of always subconsciously thinking you will fail, and failing to attract the opposite sex. You give up and nothing happens, you stay that way, you die or commit suicide. You are considered to be the lowest of the low, lower than any criminal who has had their history of female attraction, lower than any peasant or homeless man who perhaps got something in his past. Lower than a mindless consumer who also got something. Make a man go through incelibacy in the very same way and he will indefinitely go insane. The only thing that could help is some type of hypnosis which is extremely risky, or some chemical methods which are also risky... or basically just getting that which would change his thoughts of himself: a good and loving understanding girlfriend who sticks by him through thick and thin and in which HE CAN GROW and be the man she wants.. But she needs to give him a chance first... but that is highly unlikely because these types of men are SO out of the "norm" that nobody cares to think he might actually need that, or would even try to be attracted or help.

 

And when you see that the majority of women go for the really negative types of men and that life is just animalistic forms of socially accepted rape fantasies and subtle co-ercion etc. Just look at the animal kingdom, males and females abuse each other. All the time. It's never sane, its just pure insanity. Cats dominating their mates/prey, it's painful. Black widows killing their males. Fishes who turn from male to female because it can't get any. Split gender races of giant males and small males. Territorial wars, etc. All violence is due to sex or procreation in some subtle or explicit way.

 

 

Most people judge this type of person. Women will always judge a man like this. That's why he'll never see the day of light. She never stops to try and understand him, and be unconditional. It's either judgment or ignorance (as in she just fails to recognize his existence in the first place). It's very hard to recover from this, and it's only a very few. It's like those poeple who are lifelong celibates, or people who are incel up until their late ages, etc. They are like 3 percent of the population if not now even moreso for the males.

 

These are truly the lowest of men. These men BECOME MORE YIN by simple virtue of ending up an incel until the later years of his life. Then he becomes the joke of the place, he is always dominated, he becomes insane. Becomes a criminal even maybe. A pedo, a rapist. Or just a parasite the rest of his life. Maybe sometime in his childhood he was more yang. But by simple consequence of his incelibacy or not getting the chance to express his sexuality, it messes him up...

 

Women go through the same thing but they are more accepted in society. On the other hand men like this are seen as parasites, spoiled rotten like children, complainers, pussies, beta males, wimps, crybabies, un-macho. UNmanly, etc... a sure way to make him truly become suicidal and unconsciously or consciously self harming.

Edited February 15, 2011 by Non

[Non]

I am not sure what is your definition of "yin" men but you know bill gates is a nerd and hardly a jock and he is like the richest man in history.

 

Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg .. a total nerd.. and if you watched the facebook movie, he is as yin as you can get and yet he is like the youngest billionaire in history..

 

Hardly any millionaires or billionaires I know make their fortune being too yang .. that will fly in the face of business negotiations and in order to make money, you have to be yin..

 

as the Chinese said, a bamboo flexes in the strong wind but it will never break..

 

yin men occupy the lowest rung in our society? more like they occupy the top rungs in society instead and the yang men occupy the lowest rungs in our society,,

 

who are the yang men? well policemen are pretty yang.. so are soldiers..

 

and what happens to these "yang" men.. they end up as slaves and servants to the "yin" men who become masters of the modern world's society..

 

even those nba stars (who are quite yang) have to take their marching orders from the team owners who are mostly millionaires and billionaires..

 

and do they get to be millionaires and billionaires by being "yang"? i hardly think so..

 

Non, stop being an animal and open your eyes to how the game is truly being played..

 

IN SUMMARY, the yang men, the soldiers, policemen, labourers end up as slaves of the yin men, the corporates, the politicans..

 

I would not call Bill Gates all that yin, nor Mark or whatever. Put them next to the most yin of men and you wont call them yin anymore. at the very least they had SOMETHING that enabled them to be successful, otherwise they wouldn't even have the balls, or the motivation to be succesful or feel purposeful enough to really as much Drive (perhaps Sexual drive, but also more longer term thinking drive) as they had, which is definitely a yang characteristic. Maybe they got a lot of love from their family, or even from some select few women in their past. Something, made them become successful, something made them more yang than other "yin" males.

Edited February 15, 2011 by Non

[Leif]

The only thing that could help is some type of hypnosis which is extremely risky

Hypnosis from a reputable hypnotist is not risky. Risky is to stay hypnotized in your current beliefs.

 

The only thing that could help is go out and find a woman.

 

... or basically just getting that which would change his thoughts of himself: a good and loving understanding girlfriend who sticks by him through thick and thin and in which HE CAN GROW and be the man she wants.. But she needs to give him a chance first...

Chance? Chance is a low self-esteem word.

Get someone that resonates with you right now. Not someone who resonates with where you intend to be in 10 years.

 

these types of men are SO out of the "norm" that nobody cares to think he might actually need that, or would even try to be attracted or help.

You might be looking for ladies in wrong places. What about new-age workshops and seminars, yoga/taichi classes, .....

You know...same as with men...there are all sorts of women...unless you are looking for exactly the type of woman who generally doesn't click with exactly type of man you are.

 

And when you see that the majority of women go for the really negative types of men

You don't care about the majority of women. You care about finding one. She is definitely not part of that majority group, so you don't have to care about the majority of women anymore.

 

Women will always judge a man like this. That's why he'll never see the day of light. She never stops to try and understand him, and be unconditional.

Go meet people in buddhist, new-agey, etc. type of seminars, you'll find good women there, that wish to become non-judgemental and maybe they'll even like to learn from you?? Just teach them the non-judgemental stuff, and not the animailistic history of the world topic, hahaha.

 

These are truly the lowest of men. These men BECOME MORE YIN by simple virtue of ending up an incel until the later years of his life. Then he becomes the joke of the place, he is always dominated, he becomes insane. Becomes a criminal even maybe.

I might be completely wrong...not knowing you etc... it seems to me you have too much stuff in your head, work on your first two chakras and grounding and rooting yourself, and stop anything that feeds your overintellectualizing the situation (too much thinking) and not doing any ground work - which is going out and meeting women. Not that I'm master at it - if even I could get meet the ones I met, anyone can get one.

[Non]

Hypnosis from a reputable hypnotist is not risky. Risky is to stay hypnotized in your current beliefs.

 

The only thing that could help is go out and find a woman.

 

 

Chance? Chance is a low self-esteem word.

Get someone that resonates with you right now. Not someone who resonates with where you intend to be in 10 years.

 

 

You might be looking for ladies in wrong places. What about new-age workshops and seminars, yoga/taichi classes, .....

You know...same as with men...there are all sorts of women...unless you are looking for exactly the type of woman who generally doesn't click with exactly type of man you are.

 

 

You don't care about the majority of women. You care about finding one. She is definitely not part of that majority group, so you don't have to care about the majority of women anymore.

 

 

Go meet people in buddhist, new-agey, etc. type of seminars, you'll find good women there, that wish to become non-judgemental and maybe they'll even like to learn from you?? Just teach them the non-judgemental stuff, and not the animailistic history of the world topic, hahaha.

 

 

I might be completely wrong...not knowing you etc... it seems to me you have too much stuff in your head, work on your first two chakras and grounding and rooting yourself, and stop anything that feeds your overintellectualizing the situation (too much thinking) and not doing any ground work - which is going out and meeting women. Not that I'm master at it - if even I could get meet the ones I met, anyone can get one.

 

ok.. well you're telling me to "go out and GET women". Getting is too aggressive...it also means that somewhat the woman will have a submissive position, ie she is being taken. It's better to say.. just go out more. But too much do I hear "well you're not looking, you're not trying to find anyone , etc"... as if I have to go out into some type of meat market and be aggressive. Whatever happened to finding one wherever you are naturally as you go about your daily thing instead of ttrying to force it?

 

Maybe you were implying that.

[Astral_Anima]

How about increasing your testosterone Non? Trunk talked about some sort of device to have arround your balls or penis that was great at increasing testosterone. It will make you more yang. You can also start lifting wegihts in the way that increases testosterone the most (research technique for this). You can also add testosterone increasing food. You current diet is probably making you too Yin.

 

Ring of power. Yeah I bought one two. Seemed to work pretty well And yeah, diet plays a HUGE role in testosterone. I'm attaching a book that specifically addresses the issue or hormones in relation to diet. I'd used his approach with astonishing success.

 

Also if you're trying to accumulated "yang" energy then celibacy helps, but so does meditation on the lower centers of the body. Try dragon breath or slightly forceful reverse dantien breathing while in horse stance. Kundalini Yoga helps too.

 

But also SUNLIGHT. Like idk about anyone else but when winter is around i'm a slug, as soon as I ingest some sunlight through my eyes i've got the energy of a bull on crack XD But it's effects on my mood are whats so crazy.

 

Anyway here's the download, I HIGHLY suggest you give it a try.

-Astral

Ori Hofmekler - The Warrior Diet.pdf

[bodyoflight]

Hence, an unemployed masculine stud will still get 10X more women than Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg ever does...

 

LOL! Yeah, right! That is like the fraudulent statement of the century.

[bodyoflight]

I guess nobody here understands, that sexual inadequacy or being a virgin up into the late 20s and 30s etc, is perhaps the most self esteem diminishing thing a man can go through, so much so in fact it can be very permanent. It makes him question his sexual identity, his purpose his spirituality, his yin or yangness, etc. A person can go through suffering but of this type there is usually no turning back, and even if you go through extreme suffering, couple it with this and it indefinitely seals the deal especially the longer you stay this way. It really becomes a vicious cycle too of always subconsciously thinking you will fail, and failing to attract the opposite sex. You give up and nothing happens, you stay that way, you die or commit suicide. You are considered to be the lowest of the low, lower than any criminal who has had their history of female attraction, lower than any peasant or homeless man who perhaps got something in his past. Lower than a mindless consumer who also got something. Make a man go through incelibacy in the very same way and he will indefinitely go insane. The only thing that could help is some type of hypnosis which is extremely risky, or some chemical methods which are also risky... or basically just getting that which would change his thoughts of himself: a good and loving understanding girlfriend who sticks by him through thick and thin and in which HE CAN GROW and be the man she wants.. But she needs to give him a chance first... but that is highly unlikely because these types of men are SO out of the "norm" that nobody cares to think he might actually need that, or would even try to be attracted or help.

 

And when you see that the majority of women go for the really negative types of men and that life is just animalistic forms of socially accepted rape fantasies and subtle co-ercion etc. Just look at the animal kingdom, males and females abuse each other. All the time. It's never sane, its just pure insanity. Cats dominating their mates/prey, it's painful. Black widows killing their males. Fishes who turn from male to female because it can't get any. Split gender races of giant males and small males. Territorial wars, etc. All violence is due to sex or procreation in some subtle or explicit way.

 

 

Most people judge this type of person. Women will always judge a man like this. That's why he'll never see the day of light. She never stops to try and understand him, and be unconditional. It's either judgment or ignorance (as in she just fails to recognize his existence in the first place). It's very hard to recover from this, and it's only a very few. It's like those poeple who are lifelong celibates, or people who are incel up until their late ages, etc. They are like 3 percent of the population if not now even moreso for the males.

 

These are truly the lowest of men. These men BECOME MORE YIN by simple virtue of ending up an incel until the later years of his life. Then he becomes the joke of the place, he is always dominated, he becomes insane. Becomes a criminal even maybe. A pedo, a rapist. Or just a parasite the rest of his life. Maybe sometime in his childhood he was more yang. But by simple consequence of his incelibacy or not getting the chance to express his sexuality, it messes him up...

 

Women go through the same thing but they are more accepted in society. On the other hand men like this are seen as parasites, spoiled rotten like children, complainers, pussies, beta males, wimps, crybabies, un-macho. UNmanly, etc... a sure way to make him truly become suicidal and unconsciously or consciously self harming.

 

 

You should check out this article.

 

http://www.nityama.com/blog/interview.html

 

Another thing I’ve noticed is that many men of power, including myself, have a tremendous amount of respect for “woman”, as far as their spiritual development and capacity - all men of power use the way of “woman” whenever possible, because any man that understands knows that the way of the woman is a thousand times more powerful than the way of the man. So as a result, he uses the way of the woman. And when he needs to use the way of the man, he uses it with precision. And the moment it’s no longer necessary, he falls back into the way of the woman. Conscious men do this willingly with great ease and finesse. Other men who cling to machismo and deny the way of the woman have no idea how much they hold back their own spiritual development via their denial.

 

You have false pride in you.

 

There is no real status no pride in being the most popular man on the block or having the most women in your life.

 

I think, Non, that you are out of the "norm" and you should seek help. I have never seen someone whose consciousness has fallen so far down to the level of animals that it is frightening.

 

This is why the real spiritual masters do not want to come out to the world to teach.

 

Because too many lay-men has so many spiritual afflictions and mental problems like NON here that the real spiritual masters' consciousness will be adversely affected.

 

I have never thought about being celibate and staying away from women before but now I realize that in order to go full speed on my path.. I have to stay celibate and stay away from the mundane world.

Edited February 15, 2011 by bodyoflight

[bodyoflight]

Dear Non,

 

The arts of energetic spiritual practices can be abused to attract women. By staying yin enough, a male can use the yin energy to get closer emotionally to a female and then abusing his yang energy to sexually close her into a fuck.

 

You do need money to back up your conquests too. Who's gonna pay for the candelight dinners, movies and gifts?

 

But then what's the point of having such conquests? Your soul doesn't evolve from such animalistic pursuits. You don't get enlightened.

 

Rex is right. I should begin blocking you.

[bodyoflight]

Every act in this world is controlled by higher beings. You can call them angels, gods, deities.. whatever..

 

But every act in this world.. including the act of breathing, whether we hook up with certain women or not, where and what we do for a job, what time we sleep, where we live, how much money we earn, etc etc.. is controlled by higher beings..

 

Once you progress spiritually far enough on a path.. you can interact with these higher beings or energies in order to manipulate your destiny..

 

Once you have the necessary spiritual power, you can choose whom you want to sleep with and compel her to sleep with you.

 

I have been under such sex magick attacks myself for the last 18 months.

 

But seriously, Non, is that truly the purpose of us being here on this planet? To set records of how many women you sleep with or how much money you earn?

 

Wilt Chamberlain once claimed he slept with 16,000 women but where is he now? There were numerous kings and emperors in the past who controlled vast empires but where are they now?

 

In the end, everything is dust.. everything is emptiness.. everything is impermanent..

 

Do you know how much money and resources the Chinese emperors in the past spent on trying to recruit taoist masters in order to learn their spiritual secrets? The secrets of longevity, sexuality and power?

 

Do you know that almost every Taoist master rejected all the money and power in the world from these Chinese emperors?

 

Cos to these taoist masters, when you can conjure the powers of the universe at your fingertips, what is the use of women, money and political power?

 

Do you know how much spiritual power is welded by the Egyptian Pharaohs?

 

OPEN YOUR EYES.

[Non]

Every act in this world is controlled by higher beings. You can call them angels, gods, deities.. whatever..

 

But every act in this world.. including the act of breathing, whether we hook up with certain women or not, where and what we do for a job, what time we sleep, where we live, how much money we earn, etc etc.. is controlled by higher beings..

 

Once you progress spiritually far enough on a path.. you can interact with these higher beings or energies in order to manipulate your destiny..

 

Once you have the necessary spiritual power, you can choose whom you want to sleep with and compel her to sleep with you.

 

I have been under such sex magick attacks myself for the last 18 months.

 

But seriously, Non, is that truly the purpose of us being here on this planet? To set records of how many women you sleep with or how much money you earn?

 

Wilt Chamberlain once claimed he slept with 16,000 women but where is he now? There were numerous kings and emperors in the past who controlled vast empires but where are they now?

 

In the end, everything is dust.. everything is emptiness.. everything is impermanent..

 

Do you know how much money and resources the Chinese emperors in the past spent on trying to recruit taoist masters in order to learn their spiritual secrets? The secrets of longevity, sexuality and power?

 

Do you know that almost every Taoist master rejected all the money and power in the world from these Chinese emperors?

 

Cos to these taoist masters, when you can conjure the powers of the universe at your fingertips, what is the use of women, money and political power?

 

Do you know how much spiritual power is welded by the Egyptian Pharaohs?

 

OPEN YOUR EYES.

 

See, this is what Im talking about. you keep thinking Im being greedy when I ask for a minimum.

[bodyoflight]

See, this is what Im talking about. you keep thinking Im being greedy when I ask for a minimum.

 

When you ask, it is already being greedy.. even if it is for a minimum..

 

Are you really that desperate for sex and women, Non?

 

You know, here in taiwan, there was once a man who did a sex ritual. Every woman in heat became irresistibly drawn to him and would want to have sex with him. This guy ended up having sex everyday. What happened to him in the end? He looked like a 60+ old man when he was only 40 years old.

 

There was once a sorcerer in a village who used his sex magick on every woman he met. Every woman, whether married or not, end up sleeping with him. In the end, the gods sent some deities to remove his spiritual power and he died in a very ugly manner.

 

There are numerous cases of people doing love magick on married or attached couples in the hopes of stealing one spouse away from the other person. I am sure some of us have heard about the infamous Thailand/SEA love magick where the woman put her menstrual fluids in a drink and enpowered such fluids. The man who drank her fluids would fall hopelessly in love with that woman forever. He would also suffer perpetual bad luck and lose all fortune.

 

How about magick during business negotiations? Oh yes there are numerous magick in every country too which can put your business customer, supplier or partner under your sway. The other person in business negotiations can be charmed into agreeing to your terms if you apply enough spiritual leverage.

 

Using magick in physical fights? Just go to Thailand and research sak yant. Thai Kickboxers are so violent partly because of the strength magick which they use.

 

You said that there are some men who keeps getting women. Do you know what happen to men who keep getting women? They become haggard and look far older than their years as they grow old. Why is that? Cos they gave their essence out to far too many women instead of conserving their essence for their own self development.

 

My point is behind every act in the world are vast spiritual forces controlling these acts. You want to achieve whatever material outcome you desire? Start getting spiritual and learn how to manipulate these spiritual forces.

 

But in the end, you will discover all these material outcomes whether it be women, money, dominance over other men is all emptiness compared to the true enlightenment you can achieve. In the end, if you abuse your spiritual powers, you will end up with nothing, not even your life.