Astral_Anima Posted March 11, 2011 This is an email I received recently. It's about judgment vs discernment and I thought it was rather interesting and thought I'd share it with you all. Lemme know what you think XD -Astral  ***POPULAR QUESTION*** I'm starting to get good at seeing the ego-based patterns in people; detecting 'the nonintegrous' and people who are not trustworthy, not fundamentally honest and integrous.  This makes me worry that I am becoming judgmental.   >>>COMMENTS:  The ability to see who is integrous or not does not really occur fully until the mind becomes silent. Obviously you can tell that the homeless guy is probably nonintegrous because he's dirty, homeless, and mentally ill, so it's obvious. But you still don't get the full meaning of the big, juicy, adult word 'Nonintegrous' and its profound significance until perception disappears and Reality shines forth.  Discernment and judging are decidedly not the same thing. To know that a certain chemical is poisonous does not mean one has to attack or vilify it, but simply avoid it via the wisdom of caution. Similarly, a lion will gladly kill and eat you; this does not mean one needs to judge and condemn all lions as "evil." A lion is simply being what it is.  Discernment is clinically-detached and has compassion. (Compassion is the refusal to suffer based on incorrect notions, limiting beliefs, fallacious ideologies, and dualistic perception.)  Discernment does not condemn others, people, places, things, etc. -- it simply avoids them out of humility and the respect for one's life.  If there is a crack in the sidewalk or a hole in the ground, discernment simply walks around the hole, while judgment yells at the hole and tries to get it to become a 'non-hole'.  Discernment accepts others as they are, while judgment rejects, resists, condemns, hates, and seeks revenge. (Judgment wants to "win", be "right", and gain "good feelings" in the process.)  Discernment simply Witnesses and Observes quietly, standing back to silently appreciate the beauty; it refrains from getting over-involved in things or with people on a 'solar plexus' or emotionalized level. Rarely do Saints speak about what they see in others, unless they have consciously come to them and asked for it.  Discernment is inclusive of the Totality of All That Is, while judgment tries to exclude.  Discernment accepts that the infinite field of consciousness/awareness loves everyone equally, for consciousness and love are one and the same thing; judgment holds onto and clings to the kindergarten notion that unconditional love is "not fair."  Discernment can observe the ego's in others and be thankful that one is being shown the true nature of karma.  Judgment represses one's own ego, pretends that it isn't the same as the ego of others, goes into denial about it, and then projects itself out onto others.  Judgment arises out of the guilt and shame of having an ego.  It believes the ego/mind/personality/intellect and associated animal-instinctual drives are 'the me' and therefore personal. It then condemns itself and others, using labels such as "sin", "evil", "wrong", or "immoral."  Discernment simply Witnesses the collective animal ego from Compassionate understanding, rather than condemnation or guilt. As guilt dissolves, there is no more need to project one's "dark side" out onto the world or to try to change the world "out there" because, when seen for what the ego/mind really is, the world itself is really "in here" (i.e., perception).  Spiritual Discernment sees that the ego is actually impersonal; not because it read that in a book, but because Spiritual Vision has Revealed it is the truth.  Discernment is one thing; judgment is quite another. The way to get off judgmentalism is to simply accept that your own ego/mind is inherently 'animalistic' and therefore greedy, lustful, paranoid, prideful, and ignorant. By accepting the downside of the ego and refusing to identify with it as 'the me', it then becomes like a cute (and highly entertaining) pet.  The way to earn Spiritual Discernment is simple, but requires great dedication and discipline. One has to devote every waking moment of existence to being a servant of the Lord rather than a servant of the ego.  *Whole audience instantly unsubscribes*   Thanks for your question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otis Posted March 12, 2011 I think this is a very good distinction. Â I have one small comment: Â Discernment is one thing; judgment is quite another. The wayto get off judgmentalism is to simply accept that your own ego/mind is inherently 'animalistic' and therefore greedy, lustful, paranoid, prideful, and ignorant. By accepting the downside of the ego and refusing to identify with it as 'the me', it then becomes like a cute (and highly entertaining) pet. I'd phrase this differently, because all the adjectives it gave the 'animalistic' ego were kinda judgmental of animals. Gotta stand up for our animal friends. I'd say: "your own ego/mind is inherently 'animalistic' and therefore ruled by pleasure and suffering." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted March 12, 2011 Hi Astral, Â Just wanted to point out that there is nothing inherently wrong with making judgements. Â TTC, Chapter 54, Lin Yutang: Â Therefore: According to (the character of) the individual, judge the individual; According to (the character of) the family, judge the family; According to (the character of) the village, judge the village; According to (the character of) the state, judge the state; According to (the character of) the world, judge the world. How do I know this is so? By this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndoe2012 Posted March 12, 2011 "Living from the Heart" by Nirmala is all about this, including practical exercises. Â Not easy, but I think with practise comes mastery Share this post Link to post Share on other sites