Women: You can't live with them,.....

[Max]

....Period.

 

I was taking a "G" train home today when a girl I know Clementine (Plato know exactly who I'm talking about) walked in the same car. She saw me and sat right next to me.

 

Man, she is as pretty as always. You know, those hot Polish girls that are usually not so bright on the inside, but this one has such a good heart!

When she sat down she seemed to make a move to kiss me in a cheek but got confused and stopped. I wasn't sure if it was her intention, but I went and did it myself. Sweet girl, the sweetest I've ever known.

 

She asked me how come she doesn't see me at all in the dinner she works part time and I said I'm busy these days. She said I look sad or tired and I just smiled back.

 

I asked her how is school she goes to and she proceeded telling me about her internships, classes she is taking, etc. I don't recall much of it, maybe because I wasn't listening, only the last parts so I can ask additional questions.

 

As she was talking, I looked at her face and for the first time could really see how she really looks a little more then a foot away. I also looked at the people in the train: most of the men were staring at her, covered in their own drool. Women stared her up and down- jealous! She said something about her taking a Photography class and I made a note to myself that the universe might be messing with me again. It's a long story, just ask Plato about it, he has more experience with photography girls then me.

 

She stopped talking and was looking at me. I guess I could have said something but why? So she started asking questions about me... what I do for a living, if I like it or not... I gave short answers without even thinking what I was saying. My mind was blank and so she did all the talking, I just smiled and guided her. We proceeded talking about her dinner and she asked about Plato and how he was doing. She remembered the food we usually ordered- chicken cutlet and a pork chop with corn. Then she laughed about how one day they gave me pig knuckles instead of stuffed cabbage (both sound almost the same in Polish). I was surprised she remembers that one and told her "what, you have nothing better to keep your mind on?" She laughed. The thing is she wasn't even in the dinner that day, so the girls might have told her. It seems like Plato and I are some kind of unknown heroes that those Polish waitresses talk for days after we leave. They all want the same thing, anyway, that their drunken boyfriends lost years ago from excessive masturbation and watching porn.

 

We kissed in the chick before I got off the train. She said "I see you soon" and I just smiled back. I remember the look on her face. It's the same look that 22 yo Ukrainian girl had when I was dating her. She had no clue where she was standing with me- she was so confused. And how those girls could have any clue about me, if I myself don't know. They are pretty and all, but is this all about looks? Am I impressed with their beauty?... Probably, especially at times when other men show they wanna fuck them.

 

Clementine is different in one way- she is very kind and caring, to complement her looks. I could have easily got her number but what would I do with her? A relationship? I know for sure she wants a baby (she loves kids that's why she has a carrier as a pre-school teacher). I, on the other hand, mention word "baby" in sentences like: "Yeah, babies are useful if you have no other food in the house". It simply won't work. If I wanted to have a kid, she would be the perfect girl to have it with. But I don't. I would never be able to cultivate with the family the way I can do now.

 

It is soooo hard to reject this girl. I had rejected so many of them already. They all are attracted to the same thing that other people can't buy with money, fame or any other way. They all wanna take it from you, and you get chased by hot girls that literally say they want to fuck you. Plato rejects dozens of hot chicks under a pretense that their ass is too loose. The reason you don't hear about it is because he lost the count and too lazy to type.

 

I know I shouldn't have cared about all this and some of you would say "just fuck her and see what happens". I probably already have some karma with her because I keep meeting her and she is so receptive and friendly. I remember when I and Plato first saw her we were just kept starring at her because she is indeed a beautiful person on many levels.

And that's why I can't "just fuck her".

 

It's amazing it happens like clockwork. You start meditating and usually at the beginning you are not that strict with yourself. And so you have a girlfriend or if you don't, you want to get one. You want to get a pretty girl but if you are not good looking chances are they all will reject you. Your ideas that those girls should go out with you because you are on a spiritual path, or because you are fun, sensitive, caring and expressive are all dog shit and useless, but you will probably learn about that later on. I know I still in the process of doing that. But eventually, if you are lucky enough not to get married and get anyone pregnant, your practices become deeper and you will look at things from a slightly different point. If you stop ejaculating, your energy starts to build, or rather gets purer, and when you have enough chi you will see what you have to do. About this time, you notice that the opposite sex pays attention to you more. Most people have a desire now to get a hot girl, because "gee, I feel so powerful now, no woman can take it away from me!" They get a girlfriend and are back to the beginning.

 

If you stay on your course, cultivate with discipline and resist the temptations of the hottest girls trying to get you, the universe will take care of you and you pass this stage and move on to higher things. But it's so damn hard. I'm not sure if I can do it this time. Mmmm, Clementine....

[RON JEREMY]

HEY NOT EVEN A QUICK HAND JOB IN DA SUBWAY??? MAN WHAT HAS THIS BUDDHIST THANG TURNED YA GUYS INTO???

 

CUM BACK TO GOOD OLE TAO MAGIC, IF YA WANNA BE RENNUNCIATE GO TO DA MOUNTAINS N LIVE IN A CAVE.

 

GODDAMN DA HOLE POINT O TAO MAGIC IS, YA CAN LIVE *IN* DA WORLD WITHOUT BEIN *OF* DA WORLD, YA CAN FUCK ANYTHANG , AT ONE CONDITION N ONE CONDITION ONLY: THAT YA DONT WASTE YER CHING, DA MAGIC WORLD-VISION IS SO MUCH MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD, CLEAR N COOL COMPARED TO DA *MORAL* WORLD-VIEWS. JUST *DONT EJACULATE* WHEN YA FUCK, THEN PROCCEED TO DRAW DA JUICE UP N AWAY FROM YER HUEVOS, THEN CIRCULATE DA LIGHT, THAT'S ALL IT TAKES TO COUNTERACT DA EFFECTS O *SEXUAL SIN*. IT AINT EASY BUT IT'S STRAIGHTFORWARD N SIMPLE N MANLY.

 

JUST MY 2 EUROS

 

RJ

[Yoda]

I vote for Ron's approach and even Bodri has said nice things about Jolan Chang--could be a nice compromise. Happiness is an asset for making progress, so it might could be a net positive thing even from a pure Buddhist perspective.

 

BUT... if you insist on duking it out, I have read from HRM and several followers that sexual desire "just goes away" at intermediate levels of sungazing. That has not been the case for me, but I'm only at day 7. I think the energy of SG might be related to that "fire visualization" practices I've seen mentioned by Bodri to reduce sexual desire.

 

-Yoda

[Trunk]

I'm reminded of a couple of books...

 

One of Castaneda's, that i read way back in the 80's,... Don Juan's students were split up into a small group of women and small group of men - and they kept fairly separate, but found that they tended to be... overly fiesty. So the men & women paired up and each lived together, yet not as a romatic couple. Slept in different bedrooms.

 

Also, Marsha Sinetar's book "Ordinary People as Monks and Mystics", where she talked about contemplatives that were married, or in a steady relationship, that consciously took more time apart. Lived separately for some days of the week, and/or slept in separate rooms.

 

I think that there's (slim) opportunity for relationship with advanced women practitioners, where there's minimal physical sharing, yet profound balancing of energies. Varieties of relationships.

 

Trunk

[Cameron]

Wanna love ya

Wanna bug ya

Wanna squeeze ya

Stupid Girl

 

Wanna touch ya

Wanna take ya

Wanna shut ya

Supid Girl

 

I can't take this

Born to break this

 

-Cold

[RON JEREMY]

I'm reminded of a couple of books...

 

One of Castaneda's, that i read way back in the 80's,... Don Juan's students were split up into a small group of women and small group of men - and they kept fairly separate, but found that they tended to be... overly fiesty. So the men & women paired up and each lived together, yet not as a romatic couple. Slept in different bedrooms.

 

Also, Marsha Sinetar's book "Ordinary People as Monks and Mystics", where she talked about contemplatives that were married, or in a steady relationship, that consciously took more time apart. Lived separately for some days of the week, and/or slept in separate rooms.

 

I think that there's (slim) opportunity for relationship with advanced women practitioners, where there's minimal physical sharing, yet profound balancing of energies. Varieties of relationships.

 

Trunk

 

LOOK DA MAGIC WAY SAY WOMEN CAN BE APROACHED IN 2 WAYS:

1) LIKE AN ASCETIC WARRIOR MAGE, YA INTERRACT WITH THEIR ENNERGY WITHOUR GETTIN ATTACHED TO DA PERSON. IN OTHER TERMS: YA FUCK EM GOOD N SUCK UP DA ENERGY N MOVE ON.

2)LIKE A KING: YA CHOSE YER ONE WOMAN N SHE WANTS TO BE YERS FORREVER, SO YA PRECEED TO DO HEAVEN-EARTH ALCHEMY WITH THAT WOMAN DA GOAL BEIN TO ALL EFFECT *TO BECOME A SINGLE BEIN*.

 

NOW #2 TAKES 2 SPECIAL PEOPLE N SPECIAL CONDITIONS SO NOWADAYS IS A VERY RARE OCURRENCE. ALSO, PROBABLY IT'S AN OBSTACLE FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO REACH ULTIMMATE TAO. WELL, THAT'S WHAT THEY USED TO CALL LOVE ANYWAY, WHATTEVER THAT IS.

 

BUT #1, THAT'S DA WAY TO GO FOR MOST, JUST FUCK DA FEMALE CONTAINED IN EACH WOMAN N TRANSFORM DA ENNERGY INTO LIGHT, N MOVE ON WITHOUT EVER SPRAYIN YER JUICE. IF YA SPRAY, YALL LOSE YER MAGIC LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO MERLIN DA MAGE.

 

RJ

[hagar]

Yep, it's hard.

 

Especially with the italian ones. Man the dicipline! The dicipline!

 

I think meditation makes me less sexually focused, but the girls like that more than if you are all revved up on testo. I don't blame them.

 

But seriously...

Is is really necessary to be celibate. Even qigongmasters of high attainment have wives, including mine. But then again, she is also a qigongmaster.

 

Oh well.

[Yoda]

If you aint a Buddhist, you don't have to worry about it!!

 

Max and Plato are beyond our help, but you're doing fine, just talk to your master about the birds and bees, he'll set you straight.

 

Even w/in Buddhism there have been very high level Buddhists from all the major traditions that got lucky, and what was Jesus doing hanging out with prostitutes anyway???

 

Use the force, Jedi!

 

-Yoda

[Mitch]

[Max]

... for your comments. It looks like it's just a test to distruct.

 

Death puts it all in perspective.

[RON JEREMY]

Just want to say up front that Castaneda is a fraud

 

 

MAN I AM APALLED BY DA GENNERAL LACK O DISCRIMMINATION N INDEPPENDENT THINKIN.

IT'S LIKE, OK ONE SAYS SOMETHANG N EVERYBODY REPPEATS THAT, LIKE PLATO SAYIN M.CHIA IS A RIPOFF N EVVERYBODY FOLLOWIN DA HERD, OR SOMEONE SAYIN CASTANEDA IS A FRAUD N EVERYONE REPPEATIN THAT.

 

I MEAN, DONT YA PEOPLE HAVE A THINKIN BRAIN?

JUST READ DA GODDAMN ORRIGINAL SOURCES, N YALL REALIZE THAT DA FORST BOOKS WERE FULL O INSPIRRATION N KNOWLEDGE, N DA LATTER BOOKS WERE FULL O BULSHIT N MONEY-MAKIN N WEIRD , DARK ELLEMENTS.

 

DID HE INVENT ALL? WHO CARES? DO YA THINK IDEAS CAN BE INVENTED? OR RATHER, IDEAS BE ALREADY OUT THERE, ONLY TO BE (RE) DISCOVERED?

 

SAME IDEA APPLIES TO ALL THOSE ASS-HOWLS WHO PRETTEND TO COPYRIGHT IDEAS OR EVEN SPIRRITUAL TEACHINGS, LIKE THAT ASSHOLE (WHOEVER HE WAS, I DONT KNOW) WHO ACCORDIN TO PLATO CLAIMED THAT M.CHIA STOLE HIS COSMIC CHI KUNG SHIT.

BUT FOR CHRISSAKE, I MEAN, IF A TEACHIN IS WORTHY AT ALL, IT IS SO IN PROPPORTION TO BEIN *NOT* SOMEONE'S PERSONAL CREATION BUT JUST AN ASPECT O REALITY, PERHAPPS HANDED DOWN THRU DA AGES BY A CHAIN O ASCETICS. CAN YA COPYRIGHT REALITY? HELL NO!! STILL, DA FUKIN GUBERMINT IS TRYIN TO DO JUST THAT BY GENETICALLY MANNIPULATIN CROPS SO THAT THEY CAN PUT THEIR BRAND NAME ON EM N SELL EM.

 

THAT'S WHAT THESE PEOPLE TRY TO DO, TO GENNETICALLY ALTER REALITY IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY BY SELLIN AN ALTERED, POISONOUS MONSTROSITY.

 

FUK EM ALL, LET DA PITS O HELL SWALLOW EM PIGS. USE YER BRAIN , IF A BOOK HAS THAT RING O TRUTH, WHO CARES WHO INVENTED WHAT.

 

BYE NOW

 

RJ MAHASALAMI

[Harry Pain]

Brother,

 

Try this meditation. It may help saving the life force. I think it is good for WSM too!

 

Warning: Don't open for those with small stomachs :twisted:

 

http://www.geocities.com/~madg/gangessangh.../Death.html#top

 

 

With Metta,

 

Harry Pain :roll:

[hagar]

So I guess I am...

 

Better to have my cake and ehhh...eat it too.

 

General obervation from a cultivating daoists perspective: If you connect with a girl, and the converation tips in the direction of retention and non-ejaculatory sex, she will most likely think of you as some guy with intimacy issues, or, well, some issue anyway.

 

The rest of this post was so stupid that I deleted it.

 

I think I'm taking a christmas vacation from this board, now...

 

Merry Xmas!

[SheepishLord]

...Max, Max, Max!

 

Clementine is HOT!!! Problem is she wants babies--lots of them! You will also have the typical Polish lifestyle which is a "baby" unto itself!

 

In addition, you will have to hurry up because in 5 years her looks will be spoiled and her body too. White girls are like dairy products--they DO expire.

 

I have never seen a white girl over 30 worth a damn.

 

I ran into this chick on the subway for the 3rd time today on the way to work. She is looking at me more and more. So pretty other women get furious just looking at her. I think I should pick her up and fuck her, but I keep thinking about my GOALS and it is hard to fit extra women into them.

 

The way I see it, if I get fired in March I can jet down to Brazil and crash at you-know-who's house on the beach and romp on the beach with endless young girls in the nude so why should I tie up my time with a NYC ho?

 

You always know deep down what you gotta' do. The thing is doing it!

 

Remember, for 99.9999999% of those who cultivate THERE IS NO DUAL CULTIVATION!!!

[SheepishLord]

RE: SUNGAZING

 

You sure you don't lose your sexual desire because you can't see pretty girls anymore?

[peter falk]

hey, man, there's lotsa chicks over 30 who are cool and hot. maybe not as many as under 30, but enough for it to be a significant pool of hot babes to consider. yer probably just not seeing it due to yer own prejudices. see what you wanna see. often they have less baggage than 20-somethings because they've worked thru it.

 

now here in china i'd rather have a 20-something cuz chicks, make that people, under 25, are the only cool ones. between 25 and 30 you have a very mixed bag. over 30, forget it. the only english music they like is the carpenters (THE CARPENTERS, fer crissakes!) and maybe westlife and the backstreet boys (no shit!). the only exception is if youhave a divorced 30+ year old who wants to taste the freedom of women in the new china and is going for broke on that account. and mainland chinese women who are well off (or from sichuan) age very gracefully and to prove it maintain a hello-kitty collection and sleep with stuffed animals.

 

otherwise i'll stick to the under 25 crowd: bettter taste in music, more open (if you will), easy for western guys, hot, sensuous, beautiful and extraordianrily feminine, and much more in touch with themselves as individuals with meaningful lives and careers, and they live in and have a clearer sense of the modern world and the 21st century.

 

and they can't marry, by law, until their 24.......

 

and way more mature than their parents. kind of like america in the 50's and 60's.....

[Max]

Brother,

Thank you for the pictures. I'm thinking of putting the best one on my desktop to remind me of what really is important.

See:

1. http://forum.taobums.com/viewtopic.php?top...eads&p=405&t=97

2. http://www.beyondthenet.net/medit/GaminiPr...templation.html

[Mitch]

[RON JEREMY]

Ron, your above post says who cares if someone alters reality and then you want them to roast in hell for changing it. Which is it?

THAT'S RIGHT, BOTH ANSWERS APPLY, MY MAN HAVE MERCY O ME I AM A POOR WINO N 90% O WHAT I WRITE IS AS IMPORTANT AS DA FART O A FLEA, HOW-EVER, DA OTHER 10% VERY COOL STUFF I SWEAR.

 

CASTANEDAS FIRST FEW BOOKS WERE VERY INSPIRIN, THEN DA LATTER BOOKS WERE OBVIOUSLY CRAP MEANT TO MAKE SOME $$$, AT ONE TIME HE WAS EVEN DOIN SEMMINARIES TRYIN TO TEACH STUFF.

 

MY POINT HOW-EVER IS, IDEAS MUST ALWAYS COME FROM SOMEWHERE. IF HE ASSEMBLED STUFF N LIED, THAT'S HIS PROBLEM BUT THAT DONT MEAN DA IDEAS THEMSELVES BE UNTRUE OR ILLUSORY, I CAN ALWAYS USE MY INNER COMPASS N EXTRACT DA GOLD N DISCARD DA DROSS, OR, EAT DA BANNANA N TRHOW AWAY DA PEEL.

 

LOOK, THESE DAYS UNLESS YA'VE GOT DA INNER COMPASS YA'LL BE LOST, SICNE THERE ARE *NO* GUIDES NO MORE, WE'VE ALL BE LEFT ALONE BY GOD N ABANDONED ON THIS SHITTY PLANET, SO EITHER ONE IS ABLE TO FUGURE THINGS OUT OR ONE WILL BE RAPED BY DA GREEN MEGADONG WITHOUT MERCY.

 

DA VERY SAME CONCEPT APPLIES TO FURNICCATION N PORKIN , BY DA WAY, SINCE FURNICCATION IS INDEED A SIN IF YA EJACCULATE, BUT SHAGGIN W/OUT EJACCULATION IS DA EQUIVALENT O EATIN DA BANNANA BUT NOT DA PEEL. YA SEE HOW COOL MY IDEAS BE?

 

BYE NOW,

 

RJ

[IanB]

[Mitch]

[gendao]

It is soooo hard to reject this girl. I had rejected so many of them already. They all are attracted to the same thing that other people can't buy with money, fame or any other way. They all wanna take it from you, and you get chased by hot girls that literally say they want to fuck you. Plato rejects dozens of hot chicks under a pretense that their ass is too loose. The reason you don't hear about it is because he lost the count and too lazy to type.

Damn stud, I wish I had that problem!! What's your secret?

[Smile]

Damn stud, I wish I had that problem!! What's your secret?

You had to dig this post out, didn't you?

It's too easy these days as most of men are drained through too much sex/masturbation or playing video games. When you save and refine your sexual energy to higher states, people will notice and will want be around you. Not just girls but people in general. I call it a "natural PUA" as it comes from within.

[Buddy]

Interesting. A word to my single friends. Marry your second wife first.

 

Otherwise, you overthink all this. I've been incredibly happily married to my second wife for 15 years. Always it's work, (if you've been on this site and read my posts, you can imagine what it's like living with me) but if you have the right work...it's a joy. Good luck to you boys.

[三江源]

Edited March 7, 2008 by cat