Birch Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) "Still, even with the best efforts, kids are their own persons. We can't really control them. Kids will walk their own path anyway. It's futile to try to manipulate them beyond just giving them some starting tools. " Â Well see, this smarts :-) "best efforts" to do what exactly? Aside from making everyone's life miserable :-) It sounds flippant to me when I say it that way, but just how many people on this forum are spending inordinate amounts of time/effort/practice attempting to undo some kind of damage? The pain and suffering IME/IMO is real. Has to be a better way :-) Â As Mr Cow suggested, try telling people to get their "beings" in order before having kids and I suspect you'd be accused of taking away a right of some sort... Â Edited to apologize for taking this thread waaaaay off track. Edited June 15, 2011 by -K- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
