doc benway Posted June 10, 2011 I don't care what anybody says, 陳 泮 嶺太 極 拳99 is the best in world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted June 10, 2011 I don't care what anybody says, 陳 泮 嶺太 極 拳99 is the best in world. I'd like to agree ... but have no idea what you are talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted June 10, 2011 I don't care what anybody says, 陳 泮 嶺太 極 拳99 is the best in world. Not to a traditionalist it isn't. Chen Laojia is. Of course a friend/teacher of mine in Beijing grilled me for messing with Chen to begin with. Talk to an entrenched yangster and you'll learn that the Chens are impostors, the form will dislocate your clavicles, and Mao Zedong was the only thing in Chinese history that's worse. Still, one must draw a line somewhere. If you are not a family member, you don't mess with the form. If you are, go ahead, change it, combine Chen with Yang and Wu and call it 99, more power to you, but don't expect anyone who is a student of a lineage whose teachers firmly believed in if it ain't broke don't fix it to surrender theirs without a push-hands. That is, if I was correct in ignoring the translation of the above as "ninja warrior on Valium" which was one of the dictionary's suggestions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted June 10, 2011 I'd like to agree ... but have no idea what you are talking about. I don't either... but from the '99', it suddenly made me think Steve could be referring to this - - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Flake - - and if he was, then i would agree a hundred percent!! :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nanashi Posted June 10, 2011 Babelfish says: "Chen Panling Taijiquan" (But that thing has been known to be unreliable.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted June 10, 2011 Oh ... not an icecream with a stick of chocolate in it ... how disappointing. Is this it then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted June 10, 2011 Yes - Chen Pan Ling Tai Ji Quan - Mine's better! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted June 10, 2011 (edited) This one is my favorite video but the best video is waiting to be made... Edited June 10, 2011 by steve f Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted June 10, 2011 Not to a traditionalist it isn't. Chen Laojia is. Of course a friend/teacher of mine in Beijing grilled me for messing with Chen to begin with. Talk to an entrenched yangster and you'll learn that the Chens are impostors, the form will dislocate your clavicles, and Mao Zedong was the only thing in Chinese history that's worse. Still, one must draw a line somewhere. If you are not a family member, you don't mess with the form. If you are, go ahead, change it, combine Chen with Yang and Wu and call it 99, more power to you, but don't expect anyone who is a student of a lineage whose teachers firmly believed in if it ain't broke don't fix it to surrender theirs without a push-hands. That is, if I was correct in ignoring the translation of the above as "ninja warrior on Valium" which was one of the dictionary's suggestions. I've never studied Chen style and would love to someday... Mine's still the best! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted June 11, 2011 Don't mind me, I'm just baiting people. There is no best I did my form today and it was the best It's just a form Chen guys fall into their step a lot - that looks off balance to me They're all just forms But MINE is the best! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nanashi Posted June 11, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkSPa28veAE 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted June 11, 2011 So I'm sorry for fucking around... Yesterday, after doing the 99, I was SO juiced that I wanted to post, And I immediately thought of all the old threads about ' this style is better,' and Chen's original and martial, and Yang is this, and so on. So this was sort of an inside joke to anyone that got sick of those threads but it sort of flopped! But the real message was that whatever form you do, THAT is the best. My problem lately is that I'm lazy and haven't been working hard enough so I was feeling good about myself. Today, I'm back to normal. Chen is better because I haven't tried it yet = desire I just need to practice... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manitou Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) So I'm sorry for fucking around... Yesterday, after doing the 99, I was SO juiced that I wanted to post, And I immediately thought of all the old threads about ' this style is better,' and Chen's original and martial, and Yang is this, and so on. So this was sort of an inside joke to anyone that got sick of those threads but it sort of flopped! But the real message was that whatever form you do, THAT is the best. My problem lately is that I'm lazy and haven't been working hard enough so I was feeling good about myself. Today, I'm back to normal. Chen is better because I haven't tried it yet = desire I just need to practice... Your thread didn't flop at all. The humor was readily apparent. Nanashi, your video leaves me speechless. Wouldn't it be nice if all our disagreements on this forum could be settled so civilly? I've never been into any of the martial arts or the gentle tai chi movements - not that I haven't seen the need for it, I just haven't given it a priority because my path was from the more shamanic perspective. But it's so obvious from watching those men working with the chi ball, giving it intent, suggesting direction - this is so tremendously shamanic as well! It's as though we are living in a slowly reacting colloid which can indeed be manipulated by intent and slow, gentle movement - movements like this come to me instinctively during ceremony or remote intent healings. I can't wait for Ya Mu's stillness movement class next week to see if I can deepen my understanding and technique. Edited June 11, 2011 by manitou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted June 11, 2011 Nothing is the best until it was cultivated to its perfection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites