Immortal4life Posted June 26, 2011 (edited) The Mysterious Origins of Man This award-winning documentary hosted by Charlton Heston first aired on primetime NBC in 1996. Almost 30 million viewers tuned in the first time it was broadcast despite strong competition from other networks on the same night. It discusses many so called "out of place" artifacts or finds, that go against conventional notions about the past- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po3fu-lCTdQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1XNdpp0PsM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxXOM2yhz-0 or another version- YouTube - Charlton Heston on the Origin of Man Part 1 YouTube - Chalrton Heston on the Origin of Man Part 2 YouTube - Charlton Heston on the Origin of Man Part 3 YouTube - Charlton Heston on the Origins of Man Part 5 YouTube - Charlton Heston on the Origins of Man Part 5 YouTube - Charlton Heston on the Origins of Man Part 6 Atlantis Or the entire documentary in one part- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvRBfMH1GBg Haha!- Mysterious Origins of Man learn more about it- Home Page Edited June 28, 2011 by Immortal4life 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 26, 2011 Yeah, I know. The Martians brought us here from a solar system that was near the end of its life cycle. Too bad all the Martians died and this cannot be verified. Actually, I don't see any mystery in the origin of man. My simple-brained logic seems to explain all I need to know about the subject. Of course Mr. Heston really isn't God. He just played the role on TV. Oh well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 26, 2011 Actually, I think Lao Tzu had it all figured out a long time ago. Earth is of Heaven and Man is of Earth. Seems pretty reasonable to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted June 26, 2011 Yeah, I know. The Martians brought us here from a solar system that was near the end of its life cycle. Too bad all the Martians died and this cannot be verified. Actually, I don't see any mystery in the origin of man. My simple-brained logic seems to explain all I need to know about the subject. Of course Mr. Heston really isn't God. He just played the role on TV. Oh well. My favorite Charles Heston performance was in Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 26, 2011 My favorite Charles Heston performance was in Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine" Never watched that. There are some actors I refuse to watch no matter what the movie. Sadly he became one of them many years ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Immortal4life Posted June 26, 2011 Of course Mr. Heston really isn't God. He just played the role on TV. Oh well. When I think Of Charlton Heston my first thought is Taylor, from Planet of the Apes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKdSXfPl8vY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted June 26, 2011 (edited) When I think Of Charlton Heston my first thought is Taylor, from Planet of the Apes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKdSXfPl8vY I guess you are not old enough to remember 'Ben Hur' which he starred in. As to your latest and not so different rant, everyone knows humans were created by the Ananaki to mine gold for them. The Anunnaki were jewelers from another planet. :lol: Edited June 26, 2011 by ralis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted June 26, 2011 *** Mod Message *** I am moving this to Off Topic where other similar threads reside. An open plea to I4L ... one thread only please on your anti-Darwinism --- we do not need so many. Thank you. Apech for Mod Team **** Message ends **** 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted June 26, 2011 I am enjoying these documentaries, as well as thinking of what the origins of mankind could be. Fascinating topic. When I see Charlton Heston I think of Moses! The Anunnaki were jewelers from another planet. Yes, genetic engineering was more of a hobby for them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Immortal4life Posted June 27, 2011 As to your latest and not so different rant, everyone knows humans were created by the Ananaki to mine gold for them. The Anunnaki were jewelers from another planet. :lol: Well, I looked into what this exactly is....and it's actually a fascinating topic. Definitely something to research more in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Immortal4life Posted June 27, 2011 I am enjoying these documentaries, as well as thinking of what the origins of mankind could be. Fascinating topic. When I see Charlton Heston I think of Moses! MOM is always popular and draws good numbers. I could never finish the whole 10 Commandments movie when there are other channels on tv. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Immortal4life Posted June 27, 2011 I don't know why, but Darwinists always seem to attack anything that is different or outside their philosophy, including this program it seems. Here are some comments and responses to the documentary. It is so obvious the evolutionists were desperate to make any excuse they could to attack it, and they keep making more and more elaborate arguments, no matter how contrived. Just grasping at straws. Anytime a film gets peoples' panties in a bunch to this extent, you know it is good, and that it has substance to it. Lmao! We can see comments from open minded and well informed people who found the documentary quite interesting, and we can also see the hilarious comments made by hardcore fundamentalist evolution supporters NBC press release The program presents evidence suggesting that man may have made the climb from Stone Age to civilization more than once; that present-day man is just the latest in this cycle; and that Darwin's Theory of Evolution has some serious flaws. "We expected some controversy when we produced this show," says producer Bill Cote, "but were not prepared for the enormous cry of outrage from some members of the scientific community." The following are excerpts from more than 250 email messages that flooded MOM Producer Bill Cote's website (http://www.bcvideo.com) in response to the show: "I wanted to take this opportunity to commend you on your COURAGE in producing such a show. I know from personal experience the depth of passion raised when you question the Theory of Evolution. My problem with the people with whom I have debated on the subject is not so much that they believe what it is they do, but that they are so damn dogmatic about it. In many ways, the scientific establishment has become the secular analogue to the adherence to orthodoxy which they so claim to despise in favor of their freedom to question everything. Apparently, that freedom stops when one begins to question THEIR most cherished beliefs. I applaud you." (MB, Winchester, MO) "Shame on you. I watched your show, The Mysterious Origins of Man on Sunday night. It left me horrified, angry and depressed. I remember as a child, Sunday night was a family night in front of TV; NBC's Wild Kingdom and The Wonderful World of Disney....You would be astounded by how little Americans do know about human evolution and now we'll have millions of American children believing that man lived beside dinosaurs when in reality we are separated by 60 MILLION YEARS...." (KC, Northwestern University) "Fantastic show! It is about time alternative interpretations and hidden evidence is brought out into the open for the public to see for itself. The response from the scientific type community is expected because it shows a lack of rigor on their part. The last thing they want to look like is incompetent or worse, not objective. Please don't let anything or anyone stop you in the future from airing shows that present alternative views. Thank you." (DH) "I missed the first showing of "The Mysterious Origins of Man" and would like to know when and if there are any plans to rebroadcast. I was able to read a review in the electronic newsletter ISCNI*FLASH. I enjoy this type of programming. It is very refreshing to be informed of alternate points of view. I have a degree in Geology and found early, when a student, that the establishment would ignore the evidence if it didn't fit their preconceived ideas. Keep up the good work." (DE) "I just read your response to the earlier criticism of your show, and find your track-covering pathetically amusing. Standing on your high horse tisk-tasking the establishment, all giddy about the furer you kicked up, cleverly knocking down all your straw men. Yes, all we scientists have been misleading ourselves and everyone else for years! We ruthlessly squash dissent from our all-powerful theory of evolution! Give it up. You wanted money, and you wanted ratings, you wanted scientists to respond, and you got it..." (HF, Scientist and Human Being) "I thought it was an excellent program.....I kept thinking to myself, 'At last, they are starting to present to the *uninformed* American public many of the strange, inconsistent, and *unpublished* conclusions of the evidence found, or known about from scholarly interpretations of ancient sacred writings." (HW) "I am truly dismayed at this particularly steamy pile of rodent remains. What your program presented as 'very reliable alternative theories' are nothing but bizarre speculations by people whose only gain must be by selling a book..." (CB, Canadian Academic) "Please don't let the scientific community dictate what information the receptive public receives....The scientific community tends to reject anything it doesn't understand or can't reconstruct or objectively prove in the laboratory. There are many more open-minded professionals and individuals who do not have such biases and welcome information such as you have apparently presented. Freedom of information should not be restricted by such prejudice. Thank you for your initiative. (BS, Attorney at Law) "...Your network has done a great disservice by airing this pseudoscientific garbage. It is disheartening to think of how many people watched Mysterious Origins in a prime Sunday evening slot, while truly high quality programs such as Nova and Nature are relegated to much smaller audiences on PBS..." (JK, New Mexico State University) "...I have never seen such unadulterated hogwash in my entire life....If you present outrageous theories, then you must present someone with an opposing view to create a balanced presentation. If you cannot present this type of an investigation, then you should be forced to have a flashing graphic saying 'Entertainment Value Only', just like the Psychic Friends network has to do. I will be writing to my congressional delegation, the FCC, and the President to argue that legislation should exist to force you to do this....." (TH, New Mexico State University) "...I will be boycotting all of the sponsors of this program, and I will be encouraging others to do the same. (TL) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 27, 2011 Well, just maybe, if the creationists and IDers would stop telling their lies and falsehoods scientists and Darwinists would not get upset so often. It is sad when one has to rely on lies in order to support their point of view. Science isn't perfect but they at least do make great efforts to correct themselves when they gain evidence that what they held as true is based on errors. Creationists and IDers don't do this. They continually build on the lies they had previously told the people who are gullible enough to listen to them. And yes, there are lots of these people, peope who are afraid to venture into the truth of reality. It is so sad that these people have such a fixed desire to make everyone think exactly as they do. I guess that need is based in fear - fear that what you believe is false, so the more support you have the stronger you become, able to leap tall building with a single bound. Ah! Brainwashing! What a tool!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted June 28, 2011 Science isn't perfect but they at least do make great efforts to correct themselves when they gain evidence that what they held as true is based on errors. Creationists and IDers don't do this. They continually build on the lies they had previously told the people who are gullible enough to listen to them. And yes, there are lots of these people, peope who are afraid to venture into the truth of reality. It is so sad that these people have such a fixed desire to make everyone think exactly as they do. I guess that need is based in fear - fear that what you believe is false, so the more support you have the stronger you become, able to leap tall building with a single bound. As long as we'll be getting weekly posts on Creationism let me ask Immortal this: How has ID and Creationism changed over the years? Do you see it moving away from biblical interpretations and into alien theories? What trends are happening now and do you expect to see in the field? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Immortal4life Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) Do you see it moving away from biblical interpretations and into alien theories? What trends are happening now and do you expect to see in the field? I do. I definitely see more expansion into ideas about aliens and advanced knowledge. Viewing ancient accounts from a technological viewpoint, from the viewpoint and interpretation of potential ancient technology, will be more and more popular. Also, I see the philosophies and ideas of all the world's religions coming together, being integrated, more and more. Edited June 28, 2011 by Immortal4life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 28, 2011 Also, I see the philosophies and ideas of all the world's religions coming together, being integrated, more and more. Personally, I don't see this happening but nice line of thoughts y'all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) edit> ok i switched sites http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/aa.1944.46.3.02a00080/pdf a shawnee/deleware indian friend i had in the past told me that the shawnee were created from the mud from the ohio river. in another thread here it was said nuwa created people from the clay near kunlun mountain. adam was made from the dust. i just find it curioyus and interesting that this seems to be a common theme that spans across different cultures. Edited June 28, 2011 by zerostao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gendao Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) As long as we'll be getting weekly posts on Creationism let me ask Immortal this: How has ID and Creationism changed over the years? Do you see it moving away from biblical interpretations and into alien theories? What trends are happening now and do you expect to see in the field?Well, aliens are truly the missing link here that reinterpret and connect both the Bible and development of humans on Earth. This is transcending the whole paradigm between Christian Fundys & Scientific Fundys now - either option of which which was always somewhat faulty and lacking to begin with. As I've said before, we are entering a new paradigm where the old Baby Boomer hardlines are getting outdated and obliterated by groundbreaking new revelations about our past and present reality. Which means that yes, if you are a diehard Baby Boomer atheist liberal - your worldview and interpretation of reality are just as skewed by personal bias as a Bible-thumping Christian Fundy...and both are facing ideological extinction as close-minded dinosaurs. Edited June 28, 2011 by vortex 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 28, 2011 http://www.bigorrin.org/archive123.htm The site wouldn't open the article. (At least for me.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 28, 2011 ... as close-minded dinosaurs. Okay. I'm old. But not THAT old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted June 28, 2011 Okay. I'm old. But not THAT old. Either 6000 or 60,000,000 depending on philosophy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 28, 2011 Either 6000 or 60,000,000 depending on philosophy? Hehehe. Thinking about it, those aliens must have had some really huge space ships to be able to bring all those dinosaurs here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted June 28, 2011 Hehehe. Thinking about it, those aliens must have had some really huge space ships to be able to bring all those dinosaurs here. well they knew we would become addicted to fossil fuels. i changed the link in my previous post. kinda sucks coz i liked the other one better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Immortal4life Posted June 28, 2011 Vortex has it exactly right. Said it better than I did. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted June 28, 2011 edit> ok i switched sites http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/aa.1944.46.3.02a00080/pdf a shawnee/deleware indian friend i had in the past told me that the shawnee were created from the mud from the ohio river. in another thread here it was said nuwa created people from the clay near kunlun mountain. adam was made from the dust. i just find it curioyus and interesting that this seems to be a common theme that spans across different cultures. Yes, that worked for me. And I agree that most Nothern Native American Nations have man being created from earth (soil or water). And I also agree that many other cultures have similar myths. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites