sean Posted August 29, 2006 I'm really getting into this Taoist astrology class that I am taking with Liu Ming. This last class we learned about the Celestial Stems and Earthly Branches, both of which make up your outer character. Next class we will learn about the 12 houses.  There is a great free resource for calculating your Chinese astrological chart. Here is the procedure.  1) Have your year, month, day and time of birth handy  2) Go to TzuWei.com, right click and save the personal edition of this free astrology software, and install it.  3) Go to this daylight savings calculator and type in the year you were born to verify if it fell on daylight savings or standard time.  4) Go to world time zones and determine how much you have to subtract from your time of birth to get the Greenwich Mean Time (this is where knowing if you were born during daylight savings or not is relevant).  5) Fire up the Zi Wei Chart Builder software, plug in your information and hit build chart. Boom. What used to take hours has been calculated instantly.  Here is my chart:  Oh ... unfortunately I don't know the exact time I was born yet (I ordered a copy of my birth certificate to find out, but it hasn't arrived yet). But I do know that it was between 1am and 4am, so I did several charts between this range and there are only two parts (not including the 12 houses) that vary.  March 22, 1976 - between 1am - 4am  Year: Fire Dragon (Bing Chen) Month: Metal Rabbit (Xin Mao) Day: Water Rooster (Guei Yu) Hour: Water Ox (Guei Chou) or Wood Tiger (depending on actual time)  Inner Element: Wood or Earth (depending on actual time)  Constellation: Swallow  Elements: Wood/3 or 4 Fire/1 Earth/3 or 2 Metal/3 Water/2  So what's your chart look like?  Sean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thaddeus Posted August 29, 2006 So how can we figure out what it all means??? me: Year: Wood Dragon Month: Fire Rabbit Day: Metal Snake Hour: Fire Rooster  Inner Element: Earth Constellation: Griffon Elements: Wood/2, Fire/6,Earth1,Metal/3,Water 0 (ouch!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian Posted August 29, 2006 (edited) So how can we figure out what it all means???  Please yes, kind sir. Any chance of the briefest summary of what all the boxes round the edge are about?  Year: Earth Monkey Month: Metal Rooster Day: Water Rat Hour: Wood Dragon  Inner Element: Earth Constellation: Leopard Elements: Wood 3, Fire 1, Earth 3, Metal 3, Water 2 Edited August 29, 2006 by Ian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VCraigP Posted August 29, 2006 OK, I'll play.  Year - Wood Dragon Month - Fire Rabbit Day - Earth Dragon Hour - Water Dog  Inner Element: Wood Constellation: Sheep  Elements Wood/3 Fire/3 Earth/4 Metal/0 Water/2  This agrees with a chart I had done before. I don't know what inner element means, but in looking at the level of the elements I see that I have a higher number for Earth than any of the other elements and a zero for metal. I think this is significant. It means I have to be aware of strengthening the metal element and that I have characteristics of strong earth chi. At least this is the interpretation I learned some years ago.  The boxes around the center are a the twelve stems. If you notice Sean mentioned this will be covered in the next class.  I don't know what they mean either. Under offspring it has tiger. A coincidence is that my son (first born) is a Tiger. (PS - on a tangent I am using his knowledge of this fact as a stepping stone to teaching him Shamanic Tiger form, bit by bit.)  Thanks for sharking Sean Thaddeus - looks like we are born on the same year. (unless you are like over 100 years old, ya never know  Craig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lozen Posted August 29, 2006 All I know is that I have a lot of fiery stars and that my "profession" area has the stars for health and writing, and that I'm supposed to get the most chi from this dude I've never met (in the relationships area) in my whole chart. Dude who read my chart said most women would be ecstatic if that were the case, but my reaction was, "I'm supposed to get my chi from someone else?" lol. He's got an Emperor star and some other special star. I have the Sun and Moon in my health area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
... Posted August 29, 2006 I really want to know what it all means =( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lozen Posted August 29, 2006 And I don't have sufficient privileges to download it on my work 'puter. WAAH. Will have to find my old chart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sean Posted August 29, 2006 I have a big document here that Ming handed to us on Sunday called "The Twelve Animals and The 60 Combinations of the Celestial Stems and Earthly Branches". I just wrote him and asked if he could send me a digital copy and if anyone posts their chart in here I will copy and paste the text for their four results. (I don't want to just slap the whole thing up here, not sure he would be ok with that). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thaddeus Posted August 29, 2006 And I don't have sufficient privileges to download it on my work 'puter. WAAH. Will have to find my old chart. not sure how comfortable you are posting your data, but one of us can run the chart for you.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Todd Posted August 29, 2006 Year: Fire Dragon Month: Metal Rat Day: Wood Ox Hour: Fire Ox  Inner Element: Wood  Constellation: Deer  Elements: Wood/1 Fire/2 Earth/5 Metal/2 Water/2  Do you know what the numbers next to the elements represent? Is it relative amounts or something else, because to look at me, the earth element isn't that strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lozen Posted August 29, 2006 Okay I'll send you my stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lozen Posted August 29, 2006 Ooh, Sean, I wanna see my results!! Â Year: Earth Goat Month: Fire Rabbit Day: Metal Rabbit Hour: Fire Rooster Inner element: Earth Constellation: Cock Elements: Wood/3,Fire/5,Earth/2,Metal/2, Water/0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeform Posted August 29, 2006 Just as I suspected - I'm a watery fella!  Year: Water Pig Month: Wood Tiger Day: Water Dragon Hour: Wood Dragon  Inner Element: Water ( )  Elements: Wood/3 Fire/1 Earth/2 Metal/0 ( ) Water/6  So yeah - I can see the woodiness in me - the wateryiness is obvious... lack of metal is worrying, but not surprising...  oh and btw - I found this site helpfull for finding out the daylight saving hours on your year and your location (plus the GMT calculation) in one step: www.timeanddate.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sean Posted August 29, 2006 Wow, Ming said people with 5's and 6's are pretty rare. He said the only Fire-6 he met drank around half gallon of vodka a day for 50 something years, presumably in a kind of instinctual qigong to cool herself off so that people around her could handle her. Otherwise she was just too intense for her family. Â I found this site helpfull for finding out the daylight saving hours on your year and your location (plus the GMT calculation) in one step: www.timeanddate.com Cool! Thanks for that link. Â Still waiting for Ming's response on that document. Â Sean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lozen Posted August 30, 2006 I got my chart done here: http://www.thebook.com/mingli/ch.htm  Is that who you're studying with Sean?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lotusbud Posted August 30, 2006 Hmmmm, Â Year: wood rabbit Month: wood monkey Day: wood horse Hour: wood pig Inner element: Water Constellation: Pheasant Elements: Wood/5 Fire/2 Earth/0 Metal/2 Water/3 Â Some of things on this chart are spot on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sean Posted August 30, 2006 I got my chart done here: http://www.thebook.com/mingli/ch.htm  Is that who you're studying with Sean?! Nope, my teacher is Liu Ming. http://www.dayuancircle.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lozen Posted August 30, 2006 Hmmm, I wonder if that chart is drawn up slightly differently, because it looks different than my old chart. Â They did recommend Robert Fenwick for chart interp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwoTrees Posted August 30, 2006 Gotta jump on this wagon !! Love this stuff ... very interested in results later. Â Year: Metal Monkey Month: Earth Rabbit Day: Metal Tiger Hour: Earth Rabbit Inner Element: Fire Constellation: Pig Elements: Wood/5, Fire/0, Earth/4, Metal/3, Water/0 Â hahahahha, little confused on the water/0 because I'm piscean and have taken to those attributes rather accurately on my life's past ... or perhaps it is nothing like the western system at all ... *scratches her head* the fire doesn't surprise me but makes me curious ... Wood, with the predominace of Earth and Metal above make sense, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lezlie Posted August 30, 2006 lezlie:  year - earth horse month - wood rabbit day - water dragon hour - wood dragon  inner element: water  wood 3, fire 3, earth 3, metal 0, water 3  i lack metal -- which explains why i always want to live in the industrial/downtown areas of town, and why the view of a bart train chugging along in the distance interests me much more than that silly sunset.   Hmmmm,  Year: wood rabbit Month: wood monkey Day: wood horse Hour: wood pig  Inner element: Water  Elements: Wood/5 Fire/2 Earth/0 Metal/2 Water/3    whoa.... so much wood. wow, that's amazing.   Year: Earth Goat Month: Fire Rabbit Day: Metal Rabbit Hour: Fire Rooster  Inner element: Earth  Elements: Wood/3,Fire/5,Earth/2,Metal/2, Water/0   super whoa... you have 5 fire with 0 water and you live in the desert???? i am def asking Ming about you next class!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thaddeus Posted August 30, 2006 Â super whoa... you have 5 fire with 0 water and you live in the desert???? i am def asking Ming about you next class!!! I got a 6 fire with 0 water..and my dream is to live in a desert area..very attracted to it. All my life however, I've lived near the ocean. Life circumstances keeps me from the southwest, but would love to go there..can you ask about that..? Thanks T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThirstyTraveler Posted August 30, 2006 Mine is messed up  year - water ox month - water pig day - water pig hour - water dog  inner element: metal  wood 1, fire 0, earth 2, metal 0, water 9   Nine water!!!! What does this mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thaddeus Posted August 30, 2006 Mine is messed up  year - water ox month - water pig day - water pig hour - water dog  inner element: metal  wood 1, fire 0, earth 2, metal 0, water 9 Nine water!!!! What does this mean? Interesting your name is 'thirstytraveler'..or is this a joke? water water everywhere..and not a drop to drink! T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owl Posted August 30, 2006 Owl:  Year: Water Ox Month: Earth Goat Day: Fire Tiger Hour: Wood Horse  Inner Element: Metal Constellation: Horse  Elements: Wood/3 Fire/4 Earth/3 Metal/1 Water/1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lozen Posted August 30, 2006 This chart looks like it's drawn different than the one I paid for, which I frantically searched for last night but couldn't find. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites