What is Light?

[Vmarco]

Interesting, could you define unconditional, undivided Clear light for me...and how it differs from the light of light/dark duality?

 

The incandescent light and dark light of duality (Yang-Yin) is the moving electrodynamic field which is Divided Light. Undivided Light is the fulcrum upon which Divided Light effects its motion. A book has been repeatedly mentioned in this thread, which offers a summary of the basics.

 

Look forward to discussing Light with you after you grasp some of the preliminaries.

 

V

[Vmarco]

[zerostao]

[Vmarco]

 

somewhere in outer space, billions of light years from earth, the original light associated with the Big Bang of the universe is blazing new ground as it continues moving outward. in stark contrast, another form of electromagnetic radiation originating on the earth, radio waves from the inaugural live episode of The War of the Worlds are broadcasting a premier somewhere in deep space, although greatly reduced in amplitude.

 

live like an immortal

i am a brother to dragons and a companion of owls

 

Interesting about owls,...Every Ornithologist I've heard of, not only understands that the owl has the smallest brain per size of all birds, but is considered the dumbest of all birds. Yet for some reason, humans associate owls with wisdom,...perhaps human wisdom is like an owl,...dumbed down.

 

No one reading your post on the sciential minded concepts of light, will ever understand light. Original light, big bang, blazing new ground, etc., are imaginings of someone's grey-goo attempting to make their object-ive reality more palatable.

 

Light is the essence of Sacred Geometry. Drunvelo Melchizedek called Walter Russell (the author of the recommended 'Secret of Light' book listed in this thread) the greatest expert on Sacred Geometry.

 

Nikola Tesla, the fellow who invented the electric motor, fluorescent lighting, devices for x-rays, ionized gases, and charged particle beams, etc, etc. called Walter Russell the Leonardo DaVinci of the 20th century. Even Tesla was blown away by Russell's works,...adding that it may be a thousand years before people will understand them.

 

Obviously you haven't read the thread,...why else would you have regurgitated all that useless sciential minded stuff.

 

I'll let you in on something useful,...no subject, bar none, is greater than the subject of light. And, although this thread is not extensive, it already contains more information about light than you could read in every science book ever written.

 

V

[konchog uma]

 

Light is the essence of Sacred Geometry. Drunvelo Melchizedek called Walter Russell (the author of the recommended 'Secret of Light' book listed in this thread) the greatest expert on Sacred Geometry.

 

 

i just found that book buried in my ebooks collection..

 

sadly my to-be-read pile grows exponentially faster then my ability to read. however, if tesla and mister melchizidek give him the official wow, i will have to bump it up and put some other things on the back burner

 

vmarco i said this to you already so this is really @ everyone else:

if dao is the undifferentiated light and we and our chakras are the spectrum of light, what would the prism be in that metaphor? anyone...

[Vmarco]

[zerostao]

Vmarco

"no subject, bar none, is greater than the subject of light"

i agree 100% and that is why i am a little bit let down at your last contribution to this thread.

 

while the name dropping of tesla, leonardo da vinci et al is fine , it lacked substance.

the names i dropped i also added the ideas that went with the names.

apparently you hold Drunvelo Melchizedek in much higher regards than i do and you hold maxwell and hertz

in less regard than i do.

the equation i offered i gave an explanation of as well. i am still waiting your explanation for your inequality.

i am also wondering if this tesla/russell meeting is even verifiable? when , where did they meet?

are there photographs of the 2 together?

 

your commentary on owls , however is remarkable.

 

and then this

 

" And, although this thread is not extensive, it already contains more information about light than you could read in every science book ever written."

edit> i will keep an open mind until i read the book. i am hoping it is a worthwhile read. i will post again to the thread at that time.

Edited August 29, 2011 by zerostao

[Vmarco]

 

" And, although this thread is not extensive, it already contains more information about light than you could read in every science book ever written."

edit> i will keep an open mind until i read the book. i am hoping it is a worthwhile read. i will post again to the thread at that time.

 

Yes,...there's the book,...and also the thread,...and you will not see the world the same again.

 

The Secret of Light - Chapter XII (1947, part of the Public Domain)

 

Light cannot be seen, it can only be known. Light is still. The sense of sight cannot respond to stillness. That which the eyes "feel" and believe to be Light is but wave motion simulating the idea of Light. Like all things else in this electric wave universe the idea of Light cannot be produced. Electric waves simulate idea only. They do not become idea. When man sees the light of the sun he believes that he is actually seeing light when the nerves of his eyes are but "feeling" the intense, rapid, short- wave vibrations of the kind of wave motion which he senses as incandescence. The intensely vibrant electric current mirrored into the senses of the eyes fairly burns them. They cannot stand that high rate of vibration. The eyes would be destroyed by such a vibration but light would not be the cause of that destruction. Fast motion, simulating light, would be the cause. It would be like sending a high voltage electric current over a wire, so fine that the current would burn it out.

 

Man likewise cannot see darkness. The nerves of his eyes, which sense motion, slow down to a rate of vibration that he can no longer "feel."

 

Man is so accustomed to the idea that he actually sees light in various intensities illuminating various substances to greater or lesser degree that it is difficult for him to realize that his own senses are but acting as mirrors to reflect various intensities of wave motion. But that is all that is happening.

 

Every electrically conditioned thing in Nature reflects the vibrations of every other thing, to fulfill its desire to synchronize its vibrations with every other thing. All matter is the motion of light. All motion is expressed in waves. All light waves are mirrors that reflect each other's condition unto the farthermost star.

This is an electrically conditioned wave universe. All wave conditions are forever seeking oneness. For this reason all sensation responds to all other sensation.

 

Is Light A Wave Or Corpuscle?

 

Much controversy has arisen as to whether light is corpuscular, as Newton claimed it to be, or waves. There is much evidence in favor of both theories. It is both. Light is expressed by motion. All motion is wave motion. All waves are expressed by fields of equal and opposite pressures of two-way motion. The entire volume within wave fields is filled with the two opposite expressions of motion-the positive expression that compresses light into solids, and the negative expression that expands it into space surrounding solids.

 

All space within wave fields is curved. Curvature ends at planes of zero curvature that bound all wave fields. These boundary planes of omnipresent magnetic Light act as mirrors to reflect all curvature into all other wave fields in the universe, and as fulcrums from which motion in one wave field is universally repeated.

 

All Matter Is Wave Motion

 

Together these constitute what we call matter and space. It has been difficult to conceive light as being purely corpuscular, for light is presumed to fill all space. Space is not empty. It is full of wave motion. Corpuscles of matter are one half of wave cycles of light. Space is the other half.

There need be no mystery as to whether light is corpuscular or wave, for waves of motion which simulate the light and darkness of space is all there is.

 

The light and motion of solid matter, and of gaseous matter of space, differs only in volume and condition. Water of earth is compressed into small volume while water of the heavens is expanded thou sands of time in volume. Each condition is the opposite half of the cycle of water.

 

Water vapor is water turned inside out. It again becomes water by turning outside in. Expansion- contraction sequences result from this process.

 

All Matter Is Simulated Light

 

Water of the heavens still is water, and it still is light waves. No change whatsoever has taken place between the waters of earth and those of the heavens except a change of its condition from positive to negative preponderance. This change is due solely to a change of its direction in respect to its center of gravity.

All dense cold matter, such as iron, stone, wood, and all growing or decaying things, are light. We do not think of them as light but all are waves of motion, and all waves of motion are light.

 

Light is all there is in the spiritual universe of knowing, and simulation of that light in opposite extensions is all there is in the electric wave universe of sensing. The simulation of light in matter is not light. There is no light in matter.

 

Perhaps the confusion which attends this idea would be lessened if we classify everything concerning the spiritual universe, such as life, intelligence, truth, power, knowledge and balance as being the One Light of Knowing, and everything concerning matter and motion as being the two simulated lights of thinking.

Thinking expresses knowing in matter but matter does not think, nor does it know.

 

Thinking also expresses life, truth, idea, power and balance by recording the ideas of those qualities in the two lights of matter in motion, but matter does not live, nor is it truth, balance or idea, even though it simulates those spiritual qualities.

 

Man's confusion concerning this differentiation lies in his, long assumption of the reality of matter. His assumption that his body is his Self, that his knowledge is in his brain, and that he lives and dies because his body integrates and disintegrates, has been so fundamental a part of his thinking that it is difficult for him to reverse his thinking to the fact that matter is but motion and has no reality beyond simulating reality.

 

The light which we think we see is but motion. We do not see light. We feel the wave vibrations set up by the motion that simulates light, but the motion of electric waves that simulate light is not that which it simulates.

 

Confusion Concerning Light Corpuscles

 

There is much confusion concerning the many kinds of particles of matter such as electrons, protons, photons, neutrons and others. These many particles are supposedly different because of the belief that some are negatively charged, some are positively charged and some are so equally charged that one supposedly neutralizes the other.

 

There is no such condition in nature as negative charge, nor are there negatively charged particles. Charge and discharge are opposite conditions, as filling and emptying, or compressing and expanding are opposite conditions.

 

Compressing bodies are charging into higher potential conditions. Conversely, expanding bodies are discharging into lower potential conditions. To describe an electron as a negatively charged body is equivalent to saying that it is an expanding-contracting body.

 

Contracting and expanding bodies move in opposite directions. Contracting bodies move radially inward toward mass centers, and expanding bodies move radially outward toward space that surrounds masses. In this two-way universe, light which is inwardly directed toward gravity charges mass and discharges space. When directed toward space it charges space and discharges mass. All direction of force in Nature is spiral.

 

The charging condition is positive. It multiplies speed of motion into density of substance. The principle of multiplication of motion because of decrease of volume is the cause of the acceleration of gravity. The discharging condition is negative. It divides speed of motion into tenuity of substance. The principle of the division of motion because of expansion of volume is the cause of the deceleration of radiation.

 

One can better comprehend this principle by knowing that what we call substance is purely motion. Motion simulates substance by its variation of pressures, its speed and its gyroscopic relation to its wave axis.

Particles are variously conditioned as to pressure but there are no different kinds of particles. All are light waves wound up into particles that are doubly charged. Their position at any one point in their wave causes them to have the electric condition appropriate for that point.

 

Light particles are forever moving in their octave waves. All are either heading toward their cathode or their anode, which means toward vacuity or gravity. They are all moving either inward or outward, spirally.

 

All Light Particles Are Alike

 

All light particles are either expressing the mother- light principle or the father-light principle. For example, if a particle is on the amplitude of the wave, it would be a true sphere, and as a true sphere it would be neither positive nor negative. It might then appropriately be called a neutron. A particle which is spirally heading inward toward the apex of a vortex in the process of becoming a sphere might appropriately be called a proton, because of its expressing the father-light principle.

 

Again, if it is moving spirally outward, it could appropriately be called an electron because it would then be discharging in excess of its charge or expanding in excess of its contraction.

 

Light rays, for example, leaving the sun, are discharging the sun. They are also discharging themselves because they are expanding into greater volume. They are also lowering their own potential by multiplying their volume. They reverse their charge when radially converging upon the earth. They are then charging the earth and themselves by contracting into smaller volume and are simultaneously multiplying their own potential by thus contracting.

 

Semi-cyclic Alteration

 

In an electric current there is a constant interchange between anode and cathode or positive and negative poles. A light particle expands as it leaves the cathode in an outward radial direction and contracts as it radially approaches the anode. This light particle has been the same light particle at all times in all parts of its journey. Its variation of charge and discharge, its direction of motion and the condition of wave pressure in which it finds itself at all times are the sole reasons for its changing from one condition to another. The light particles are all the same light particles, all being different only in pressure condition.

This is also true of the elements of matter. Whether they be iron, carbon, silicon, bismuth or radium, all are composed of the same kind of light particles.

 

They all seem to have different qualities and attributes, but those qualities and attributes are likewise given to them purely by the positions they occupy in their waves.

 

All Things Simulate Light

 

A particle of light which belongs to an atomic system of sodium has in it all of the entire range of the elements, besides all of every other creating thing in the universe. It acts to carry out the purposefulness of the idea of sodium simply because it is in the pressure condition of sodium, and is a part of the unfolding pattern of the seed of inert gas of the octave from which it has unfolded.

 

If that same particle unfolded from the seed of the oak, it would be part of the wood fiber of its trunk, or leaf, or of the chlorophyll which colored its leaves, but it would be the same kind of particle while fulfilling the purpose of cellulose as while fulfilling the purpose of sodium.

All matter in this universe is but differently conditioned motion simulating light, and all differences in condition are pressure differences.

 

Light Does Not Travel

 

The speed with which light presumably travels is 186,400 miles per second. The distance between stars is so great that the speed of light is computed as light years, for the distance computed by lesser units of time would yield figures so great that they would be meaningless.

 

Light only seems to travel. It is but one more of the countless illusions caused by wave motion. Waves of the ocean seem to traverse the ocean but they only appear to do so, for waves are pistons in the universal engines, and pistons operate up and down. Wave pistons of light, or of the ocean, operate radially and spirally inward and outward, toward and away from gravity.

 

Waves of light do not travel. They reproduce each other from wave field to wave field of space. The planes of zero curvature, which bound all wave fields, act as mirrors to reflect light from one field into another. This sets up an appearance of light as traveling, which is pure illusion.

 

The sunlight we feel upon our bodies is not actual light from the sun. What actually is happening is that the sun is reproducing its own condition on the earth by extending the reproductions out through cold space into ever enlarging wave fields until those reproductions begin to converge again toward our center of gravity into ever smaller wave fields. The heat we feel and the light we see is dependent entirely upon the ability of the wave fields to reproduce the light and heat, and that ability is conditioned upon the amount of moisture in the atmosphere.

 

If there were no moisture in the atmosphere, our bodies would carbonize from the heat thus reproduced. One cannot consistently think of that heat as direct rays of the sun, for that same sunlight was intensely cold during its reproduced journey through the immensely expanded wave fields of space between the sun and earth.

The light and heat that appear to come from the star or sun have never left the star or sun.

That which man sees as light and feels as heat is the reproduced counterpart of the light and heat that is its cause.

 

The rate of vibration in a wave field depends upon its volume. Vibration in a wave field means the pulse of interchange between its compressed core and the space surrounding that core. A slow vibration in a large wave field would cool one's body, or even freeze it, while fast pulsing interchange in extremely small wave fields could burn one's body.

 

A lens that multiplies light and heat toward a focal point which sets paper on fire merely compresses larger wave fields into smaller ones. The rate of vibration increases for the same reason that the planets nearest the sun move much faster in their small orbits than those that are far away from the sun. Kepler's law covering the speeds of planets will apply to rates of vibration in wave fields as appropriately as with the movements in the solar system.

Edited August 29, 2011 by Vmarco

[konchog uma]

[Vmarco]

so dao gives rise to and contains all forms of light, and the prism is undivided light itself?

 

makes sense, just making sure i caught your meaning.

 

 

No,...I see WuJi or Undivided Light as the Still source, but a source like a fulcrum. The fulcrum does not "cause" anything into motion,...the fulcrum of a playground seesaw doesn't cause the lever to move,...but facilitates it. Duality effects its motions through the prism, which is upon the fulcrum. The prism is not WuJi, but neccessary for the perceived split into TaiJi.

 

IMO it is tricky to use the phrase "so dao gives rise to and contains all forms of light" The Tao of Wu is light,...although not light from our point of view. Our point of view about light is the electrodynamic field. Our point of view,....that which arises from the 5 skandhas,...cannot observe Undivided Light. To observe it, we need our Unborn Awareness.

 

Things are not what they appear to be from a Divided Light point of view. Divided Light desires union with Undivided Light,...however, that can never occur,...because Divided Light was never separate from Undivided Light,...Divided Light is an illusion.

 

Because we have been duped into thinking that this dream is real, we only see one-way,...we do not see the reverse flow of forward moving things as a Tathagata does. Thus we are deluded into thinking there are beginnings and ends,...we think we evolved from apes, who evolved from bugs, who evolved from carbin, etc,...but the reverse is equally correct,...that is,...we are who we are, and to be who we are, we manifested a reverse devolution, to get to the evolution, we perceive we are.

 

Time is one thing,...only our perception fragments it.

 

V

[Aaron]

Hello folks,

 

I've delayed posting to this thread because I was experimenting with the phenomena of light during meditation. For the last week I have spent time in "empty mind" meditation to reach the state of light I've already talked about and I wanted to share my findings.

 

Before now I have only rarely chosen to experience the state of light since it can be somewhat uncomfortable in an emotional sense. To be void of emotions is a strange experience, one that is not easy to explain, so I wont try and I'll leave that as the explanation. If one does not experience it, I don't think one can ever adequately understand the experience through explanation, because every explanation falls short.

 

What I find is that the light is consistent, but it is not like light that you see. It is white, but it is not clear and brilliant at all, though when you experience it the first few times it may appear to be, instead it is as if a film is covering it, like it is smoky for lack of a better explanation. When you are bathed in or become this light, your emotions drain away, and instead there is nothing. Your thoughts appear to be distant as if they are calling out to you from the end of a valley, just echoes.

 

I've experienced this state more in the last week than I have in the last twenty years since I first experienced it. I'm not sure how it's changed me, but what I can tell you is that I know it is there now, even as I move through crowds I can feel it, still underneath the surface, my thoughts flow over it like oil on water. I can experience it even without sensing it through thought-sight. It has greatly increased my ability to find peace, even in turmoil, but it has also lessened the degree of pleasure I find in doing things, perhaps because things don't seem quite as important anymore.

 

The connections I feel to others is different as well, I view people less passionately. My notions of love are changing as well, even though I sense that love is the key to it all, I also understand that true love is not passionate, but an even action that is the result of a greater impulse, rather than an emotional impulse.

 

I am not a robot mind you, devoid of emotion, I still have emotions, but as I said, when I feel emotions now it is as if I am observing the emotions. I used to describe this before, but the experience I have now is infinitely different from what I described, because I sense that the emotions are not me, but are arising on their own from someplace else. Perhaps my next step is to find out where they arise from, but honestly it seems as if they arise from a void of their own, the response to my interactions with the world, what this void might be is the important question. Perhaps our human emotions are coming from something completely different. One being the yin, the other being the yang?

 

I can understand the idea that people cannot see light, because when I look through my eyes what I see is different, it is only when I see with my heart, my mind, my soul-self, that I see light, at least what I describe as light. Perhaps it would be better to call it something else, since what people perceive as light seems so much different.

 

That's the end of it, I don't know what else to say.

 

With love,

 

Aaron

Edited August 29, 2011 by Twinner

[Vmarco]

 

Before now I have only rarely chosen to experience the state of light since it can be somewhat uncomfortable in an emotional sense. To be void of emotions is a strange experience, one that is not easy to explain

 

What I find is that the light is consistent, but it is not like light that you see. It is white, but it is not clear and brilliant at all,...

 

I've experienced this state more in the last week than I have in the last twenty years since I first experienced it. I'm not sure how it's changed me, but what I can tell you is that I know it is there now, even as I move through crowds I can feel it, still underneath the surface, my thoughts flow over it like oil on water....

 

I am not a robot mind you, devoid of emotion, I still have emotions, but as I said, when I feel emotions now it is as if I am observing the emotions. I used to describe this before, but the experience I have now is infinitely different from what I described, because I sense that the emotions are not me, but are arising on their own from someplace else....

 

I can understand the idea that people cannot see light, because when I look through my eyes what I see is different,....

 

 

Naropa purportedly said, By learning to recognize the transcendent Light, an adept may return to it without difficulty when the shock of death threatens to disorient him.

 

Thus, all inquiries into light, from a Vajrayana point of view, are useful.

 

Just prior to my first time in Clear Light, which occurred through a total surrender, my consciousness was in white light, and my body (felt not through the ordinary senses, but something metasensory, perhaps the 6th senses), expanded as to infinity, and then flash, my consciousness was at rest (there was no awareness of "body"). Then, which was at least a few hours later, my consciousness fell back into the body. I was ecstatic! Saw this absolutely beautiful being in a mirror,...it was me, but layers and layers of baggage that was part of my reflection were no longer there.

 

And now, the reason I mentioned the above. I wanted back,...back into the light,...it was still right there,...I just close my eyes, and the luminousity was brilliant,...however, each time I did, my body would shake profusely, and I'd have to open my eyes. Over and over I tried to get back, but the longer I held on to the light (mere seconds) the more my body would violently tremble. Only later did I realize that mass/matter and all things Skandha, cannot enter the Stillness of Light. Iwas trying to go back, to be in the light, with my conditions, as if one could actually bring their conditions into the Unconditional.

 

I would also suggest reading post #52

 

http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/19803-what-is-light/page__st__48__p__286146__hl__alaya__fromsearch__1entry286146

 

V

Edited August 29, 2011 by Vmarco

[Vmarco]

 

My bodyworker doesn't call love "love." She calles it "pure presence." Isn't that what rigpa is?

 

Rigpa is often seen as a "non-dual awareness",....sometimes as a total dissolution of dualistic consciousness,...an awareness opposite ignorance. As ignorance is awareness of Past, it could be said that Rigpa is awareness of Present. Thus, "pure presence" is a somewhat accurate term,...because it points to that which is not merely perceived,...such as, we often call our perceiced present, the present, when in reality it is not the Pure Present.

 

There are no conditions in the Pure Present,...like pure love, it is Unconditional.

 

Many want to be loved Unconditionally,...thinking that such love would be non-threatening to their beliefs,...that such love would accept them as they are. IMO unconditional love absolutely accepts who they are,...not who they "think" they are, but who they are.

 

An authentic bodhisattva, one who has consciously taken the vow to work for the liberation of all sentient beings, has a pure compassion, which like pure love, does not avoid, appease, moderate, or put conditions upon their interactions with others.

 

For those who wish for the Unconditional love of another, I doubt they'd understand what they're wishing for. Unconditional love is not safe for the conditions one clings to for one's identity.

 

V

[thelerner]

edited for negativity

 

 

light good.

turns off computer

 

goes to walk in some

Edited August 29, 2011 by thelerner

[Aaron]

Hello VMarco,

 

I got upset today, so apparently my ability to stay calm isn't without it's limits. I dropped my glasses on the ground and a hand truck rolled over them and scratched both lenses to the point that they can't be seen out of anymore. Being out of steady work, I don't know how long before I can buy a new pair, so for the time being I am seeing a very fuzzy world. Luckily I'm far sighted, so I can see monitors and such fine, but it's still annoying to look at a tree and only see a blob. To be completely honest, this would've been bothersome to me for a much greater period of time than it has been, so if nothing else I am finding peace easier.

 

I can understand what you are saying about going back to the light, there is that desire, but I don't think we are intended to stay there, rather we glimpse it and move on. As I said I rarely tried actively to pursue that state and I think I will not attempt to anymore, having a sense of it already and holding on to that sense is enough.

 

It's still there though and the fact that I notice it causes my perception of the world to change. It's like knowing there is an ocean beneath your feet, feeling it move, but not seeing it clearly, just feeling it.

 

I am reticent to explore the void from which emotions come, because that place seems much different, it seems like a turbulent place. When I approach it in my mind I think of wind rushing forth, but it is not wind, it is raw emotion washing over me, anger, lust, happiness, peace, and a multitude of other emotions. From this place I sense no light, but perhaps it is only because I have not reached it yet. Perhaps it is much like a hurricane and only when I reach the center will I sense the true nature of it.

 

I'm sure for many this is hard to believe, but if anyone is curious, I will say it is well worth the effort if one decides to pursue it. I also don't think it would take twenty years for another to find it, only a short time if they know what they're looking for.

 

Thank you for your reply.

 

Aaron

 

edit- Also if it seems I am unhappy or that this is disturbing, that's not true, in fact I am finding more peace each day. The truth is that I see happiness as something else now, not an illusion per se, but rather a motion of the mind that can cause you to lose perspective. It is not unlike pain, only it is pleasurable so it's easy to ignore this aspect of it. I think I am fine with finding a balance between the two, in fact I think that balance is also the key to reaching further, to finding the place from whence emotions come.

Edited August 30, 2011 by Twinner

[Vmarco]

Also if it seems I am unhappy or that this is disturbing, that's not true, in fact I am finding more peace each day. The truth is that I see happiness as something else now, not an illusion per se, but rather a motion of the mind that can cause you to lose perspective.

 

Don't know if I was fortunate or unfortunate,...but at around 19, I began reciting the 1st Absolute Bodhichitta numerous times per day. Although it took years for shamatha to be more present than not,...those Absolute Bodhichitta proverbs are very helpful:

 

These proverbs are:

 

1. Treat everything you perceive as a dream.

2. Find the consciousness you had before you were born. (Unborn Awareness)

3. Let even the remedy itself drop away naturally.

4. Stay in the primeval consciousness, the basis of everything.

5. Between meditations, treat everything as an illusion.

 

Unfortunate? "Reality is not a safe place for you - the you that you have created. It is the only place where

you would die; where there is no room for your hopes, your dreams." JdeR

 

V

[konchog uma]

Don't know if I was fortunate or unfortunate,...but at around 19, I began reciting the 1st Absolute Bodhichitta numerous times per day. Although it took years for shamatha to be more present than not,...those Absolute Bodhichitta proverbs are very helpful:

 

These proverbs are:

 

1. Treat everything you perceive as a dream.

2. Find the consciousness you had before you were born. (Unborn Awareness)

3. Let even the remedy itself drop away naturally.

4. Stay in the primeval consciousness, the basis of everything.

5. Between meditations, treat everything as an illusion.

 

Unfortunate? "Reality is not a safe place for you - the you that you have created. It is the only place where

you would die; where there is no room for your hopes, your dreams." JdeR

 

V

 

i haven't heard the lojong proverbs in so long i had forgotten! thank you for the reminder! those are beautiful

 

chogyam trungpa translates 5 as "after meditation, be a child of illusion".

[Aaron]

Interesting! A mirroring of your unfoldings in meditation?

 

 

Hello Rainbow Vein,

 

No, not a mirroring, simply something that occurred. If I choose to see it as a mirroring then it is, if I choose not to, then it isn't. The same goes for you. In the end there is only the action that occurred, finding significance in it changes nothing about it, it merely adds an importance to it that doesn't matter, unless we choose to make it matter.

 

Aaron