johndoe2012 Posted August 20, 2011 Lately I have been giving thought to the piracy thing, eg. downloading content from a site where the author has not given prior consent. What's your opinion on this? On one hand I see the ego show up as in "man, I really want this, and I can just download it here". On the other hand it also makes sense as a more efficient form of distribution, no physical media, no transport to create CO2, no DRM to irritate you and take rights away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted August 20, 2011 I may have been a pirate but I would never admit to ever having pirated anything. (And this includes with music way before there were any computers.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johndoe2012 Posted August 20, 2011 There's the issue with respect. By downloading without the author's consent you are not respecting their wishes, even if they would contradictory to generating profit and easing things for the customer. However, if not for piracy, would we have had the pay for downloads options we have today? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sloppy Zhang Posted August 21, 2011 (And this includes with music way before there were any computers.) You mean like waiting for it to be broadcast over the radio, and then recording it with a tape recorder next to the radio? To the broader topic, yes, it is an interesting moral quandary. On the one hand, there are the rights of the producer of the material, and the hard work and dedication they put into their work. It does not seem fair to cut them out of that by basically "stealing" their work. On the other hand, there is the issue of freedom of communication between human beings and the sharing of knowledge. I'm a huge fan of open source software. There was a linux user who was able to make a computer on a flashdrive. THAT is the type of ingenuity that can really change the world. I see a bunch of programs about bringing laptops to children in Africa. For what purpose? So they can download music and watch porn? How about we dump money into these small types of computers, $25-$100 computers to help low income kids get access to computers to help them learn engineering and programming? Put the power in the hands of the people, and watch them grow, instead of bleeding them dry so outdated institutions can continue to bar all but a select few from learning skills which would not only help them economically, but help advance our society. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sunya Posted August 21, 2011 If you write a song and I record you playing it, is that theft? I'm not making any money from the recording. Just enjoying it. I don't see it as theft. Theft would be if I stole a CD, but nothing was stolen. Only a copy was made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted August 21, 2011 You mean like waiting for it to be broadcast over the radio, and then recording it with a tape recorder next to the radio? Was that really possible? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder_Gooch Posted August 27, 2011 (edited) If piracy/copyright infringement is immoral, why do library's have photocopiers? Most people don't want to break the law to watch a video or listen to a song, or read a book. It is that the content provider's (MPAA, RIAA, etc) business model is broken at it's core and their greed is keeping it from evolving into a functional business model. Any business model which requires writing new laws to sustain itself is broken beyond repair imho. Instead of creating a viable business model they are forcing customers to become pirates, their sworn enemies. Their own greed and lack of vision is causing this system break down. Most people would not mind paying a reasonable fee for a service like netflix, and or pandora and also listening to advertisements to be able, watch, listen or read anything they wanted whenever they wanted. So I say F*** them. They are dinosaurs. Try your best to obtain whatever it is you want off netflix, hulu, etc if it isn't available it's not your fault they are greedy F***ing retarded suits. Pirate what you can't obtain legally. Remember when you download a file off the internet, it is a binary string of 1's and 0's and it represents a real number between 1 and infinity. You cannot copyright a number it has always existed and always will exist. It's like saying 2 is copyrighted you can't send the number 2 to another person because it violates our copyrights. All possible numbers (of which a song in binary form is one) have always existed and always will exist. If anyone own's the damn copyright to the thing it's the Tao, or God or the universe or whatever ultimate thing you look up to, not some fat cat suit sitting in an office chair suing his own customers for daring to choose to consume media differently than authorized to do so. Lately I have been giving thought to the piracy thing, eg. downloading content from a site where the author has not given prior consent. What's your opinion on this? On one hand I see the ego show up as in "man, I really want this, and I can just download it here". On the other hand it also makes sense as a more efficient form of distribution, no physical media, no transport to create CO2, no DRM to irritate you and take rights away. Edited August 27, 2011 by More_Pie_Guy 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desert Eagle Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) I wanted to share this comic about piracy translated from French. (click image to read online) source Edited August 28, 2011 by Desert Eagle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harmonious Emptiness Posted August 28, 2011 If you want to support a musician, see them live. They make 10 times what they would from you buying their cd as 95% of the cd goes to the record company. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder_Gooch Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) I wanted to share this comic about piracy translated from French. (click image to read online) source Edited August 29, 2011 by More_Pie_Guy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites