The orgins of gods.

[ion]

Permeating everything from the bottomlessness of all the universes up, is the awareness of the great mother of orgins.

 

The awareness of the original feminine energy of the universe is the only expression of the true source.

 

This is the old woman who pre-exists the existance of the original male energy, so she is latent eternal energy, in a state of unreacted stillness.

 

Being an expression of the true source, her and her awareness are without self and fundamentaly selfless.

 

Her awareness permeates all entities, it is the foundation and field of all consciousness and all mind.

 

Her awareness is host to every conscious mind.

 

By virtue of the true source who is without self, and dwells in non-existence- her awareness selflessly submits itself to anything that moves or vibrates; that has a curve or corner; that appears as vertical or horizontal, or kinda goes this way or that.

 

All things sentient; all things aware, and all of the gods consciousness's are permeated and supported by the awareness of old woman's stillness.

 

What I believe is my mind, and being me, is the awareness of old woman whithout self, selflessly being me.

 

The sense of being here, the sense of being now; the sense of being, whether it is in me, or whether it is in you, does not originate or belong in or to me and you. It is not attached or joined to my body, or my form. My form has no fundamental awareness of its own.

 

This sense of living, of having a life, and livving a life is not mine; it originates, and without self elaborates from the infinite mother of orgins, and it is the awareness of her stillness in it's untouched perfection that is host to our consciousness.

 

The sense of being here and now is a blessing of her everpresent, original self reflection. "Now", is her awareness of eternity in the presence of our times.

 

The true source, who dwells beneath non-existence presents as universal law - ...nothing...no man...non-existence... -, by existing without self beyond the consciouss infinities of non-existance.

 

The original feminine energy is an expression of the true source, who put her into existance as the law of "nothing."

 

The expression of the true source - ...nothing... - is the infinite body of the original feminine energy which has existed eternaly as a single point of infintesimal nothingness. It has fullfilled it, it does - ...not exist... -, yet she has her awareness which omnipresently exists.

 

The law of - ...nothing...- as expressed by female is, but is unasserted by the true source, who being infinitely selfless and with out self express's female never asserts a thing. By the virtue of its compassion the true source express's - ...no human be created or to it's hells all eternity must submit... - , so the infinite female manifest nothing, feminine un-exist,stillness, and yet her awareness eternally exists.

 

By virtue of the infinite unboundable selfless nature of the true source, the law of nothing trancends the the quality of female and is also expressed as male, then as both the law becomes complete.

 

The law of - ...nothing... - expressed as male is like the female and like it the original male energy of the universe is a single point of infitesiamal nothingness, yet its energy goes inward and so the female who previously existed a single point, express's outward, its opposite, but male becomes an infitesimal point because it goes inward.

 

The original female energy that pre-exist the male energy of the universe of universes, is an infintesimal point only because her potential was latent before the original action of the male energy. Being in a state of infinite stillness, infinite energy untouched, unmoved, infintesimal nothingness, the original female energy is the fabric of reality in its unreacted state.

 

 

When the male energy, occupies the same non-existant presence of female energy the female energy responds to the unasserted action. The action of responding is a reflection of the action of male and is not an assertion.

 

The true source of all energy, mind, form, and spirit express's nothing and conjured nothing up. In stillness, whitout self, the true source by virtue of compassion exists in that bliss.

 

By virtue of the true sources uncreative actionless action the uncreated understands-

 

-...if existance springs, then humanity without fail will in some form come to exist...human will develop a perception of itself and imagine and conceive itself...

 

...human will develop a sense of self, it's perception will have sight from that...human will develop self interest, it's division will originate in that...-

 

The division of humanity is the orgins of the spontaneous manifestation of hell within the field of eternity by way of its connection to the establishment of the ego across the face of the earth, and in the soul of human mind. Hell is the dimmension of soul-ego-thought only, when the soul is without a body.

 

The nature of all things is without self. By this virtue existance spontaneouslly arises from non-existance without assertion or taking action the formless spirits of the elements of time unfold from nonexistance and mind comes to be in dimmensions of bliss and unmanifested potentials, this is the seat of the creator and the rebellion of the law.

 

By creator creating creation creating, humanoid spontaneouslly come into being and inevidably develops a strong sense of self. From the sense of self it will form taste and opinions and begin to serve and live for its own self interest in pursuit of their own desires and all manner of suffering will permeate eternity...

 

And so the law of the sourceless source was, is, and will be- "no-thing"...

[ion]

In truth... The all and the nothing are but one not-thing differintiated into infintesimalism of concept and variable energy fields, yet it is all the feild, and tucked into the the stillness, and awareness of the old female;the bottomless negitive energy, that is the original female energy, that is the feild of infinity. There is no parts or space, there is the energy of old female. Seen from the female the universe is vastness of space from the male is form in its place.

 

The only thing that can be said about the true source of all things is that it is the principal of infinity and absolutly selfless, and without self, and by these virtues there is the power of forever and that all things are comprised and contained in its its initial and only expression that is, infinite feminine energy in stillness.

 

From the true source, (the principle of infinity)proceed all things. The true source express's itself as ...nothing..., the original feminine energy which at once differintiates into male and female energies, but it is the energy and awareness of old female having two senses of being one thing.

 

With this actless act an infinitude of forces , laws and elements give rise. All are formless and like everything in non-existence unformable and aware with eternal spirit.

 

In the realm of non-existence is an infinity of awareness and each in itself is an infinity, is self aware, and also cognotive of all possable reactions it is capabable of having- yet it does not percieve a self in itself or around it, it has no perception; it has self awareness.

 

Being without time and space there is nothing to divide these awareness's from one another, so although they all exist eternally in a single point of nothingness they are differintiated by virtue of what they are aware of.

 

The original feminine energy, the mother of orgins who is was and will be for eternity, at once differintiates into two. The expression of the true source, ...nothing... cannot be defined or confined by a single aspect and thus effortlessly trancends by its nature the quality and charecter of female and without sense of self becomes also the original male energy, the posotive form of nothing and thus by comparisson the female is the negative form of nothing.

 

These are like two, but are neither one, or two, but are none and are one, but not one, yet the awareness of old female has become three awareness's with the aspect of nothing, stillness, action, and activity (oldfemale, male, newfemale), and a multitude of energyless awareness who exist in principle and dependant on the existance of the existance of the male and female.

 

The mode and development of this evolution has its root in the fullfillment of law and the subsequent arising of awareness. When the true source express's ...nothing... the original female is manifest and upon realizing the vector and nature of her being, self awareness is manifest and to the true source old woman says ...I am...

 

It is in this recognition of being, (within the feild of infinity), that makes manifest the complimentary opposite, this is the force of eternity and the law of infinity, which are because the law of nothing is only completed infinitly if it is both posotive and negative; male and female. These are essentially the same thing with two self awareness having there source in old woman.

 

Any concept that gives rise in the feild of infinity when the initial differiantation takes place within the field of infinity gains awareness, becomes infinite, and attains spirit These formless elements cannot be ennumerated to completion because there numbers are infinite yet a few can be shown.

 

Because there is conceptually a symmetry connecting the two primary forces of male and female,then symmetry has come to be, and has self awareness, Symmetry is the source of the law of karma, a vehicle of creation, and motion across eternity. Because of the opposite direction of male and femal the contrast is self aware and infinite and everywhere and the concept and principle of contrast have a self awareness and an eternal spirit.

 

Because there is equinimity with this male and female, then equinimity is self aware and becomes everpresent. Because there is balnce with this equilibrium then the spirit and awareness of balance comes into being in principle, and gains self awareness and attain an eternal spirit.

 

 

Because the male comes from the female by virtue and trancending nature of true source and by way of symmetry then in concept there is sequence and multiplication of the sequence and division of the sequence and so where ever there is stillness the sequence arises, and because they arise then these concepts and principles within gain awareness and attain spirit. Yet because there is no ammount the division and multiplication are exact sameness's in eternal replication.

 

These things can not be enumerated to there completion yet it is by this virtue of infinity that all matter of spirit gives rise and all potentials of existance exist but lay dormant, insubstantial, unpercieved, hidden by the true source so that nothing will come to exist. At this point in the development all spirits of nothing exist in pure bliss of the stillness of old female, and from her stillness she is aware of all things and all things have awareness.

 

When the male is made manifest the two forms of the law of nothing occupy the same space because of the congregating nature of their awareness and because there is no dimmension to divide them. It becomes in their nature (law of nothing) to cancel one another out. Each's sole purpose becomes to remove the other from the field of infinity so that the law of nothing is fullfilled.

 

Neither can cancel the other because they are both infinite in streangth, but it is the determinism of each to do so to the other. It is because of the differintiation in the sense of being of old female that we have the percievable concept of action and activity, cause and effect.

 

Upon differentiating the original feminine energy becomes male and female. Male contracts with infinite streangth inward with infinite velocity, female becomes an infinite feild surrounding male with equal streangth the feild being an expression of the energy givven by male. So there is this essence of an eternaly shrinking sphere within an infinitly expanding space yet there is no sphere and no space; there is oposition surrounding a unity in an infinite ammount of infinitely negative energy.

 

This event multiplies and divides across the field of eternity replicating in, and occupying every "empty space", but because there are no dimmensions, it is only in concept that the phenomenon apply and that the sequence exists.

 

Because of the determinisms with in male and female, (to conquer), the female expands around him for ever pulling him apart. Male energy is intent on pulling her iward as to absorb her energy through compaction but because of they are composed of the feild of negative energy within which all things exist, this is to no avail. It has the effect from the male perspective that he is pulling her in as he undulates through the field, and from the female that she is diffusing his energy into darkness and the stillness of emptiness. It is also like the infintesimal sphere crosses infintesimal space because across every infinity of female there is a sphere of male and at the center of every sphere is an infinite space of female and it can not actually be illustrated but this physical imagrey can convey an essence.

 

Within this infinite field of negative energy where in all things are composed and comprised by and take place within and have their existance is also non-existance, the field inwhich all things are contained is the same feild as contains non-existance.

 

Because of the congregating and conflating of awareness there is the arising the ever ascending highest collective awareness of non-existence, and upon its self realization it attains the power of perception.

 

It knows that the awareness's of non-existance are in and of the same essential negative energy, that they are subjected by the concept and principle they are self aware of, and so the ever ascending collective self awareness conceivs the concept of perception and thus aquires a perception.

 

This percieving awareness is the composite awareness of all the awareness and it percieves and so it knows, and because it knows it has gnosis. Unlike the other spirits, it knows how it came to be. It knows it owes its existance to the virtue of the principle of infinity. It knows its existence is dependant on the oposition and compatabilities of the primary principles of male and female. It knows what all things are composed of comprised of and contained in and it knows it is dependant on this and that this is ultimately negative and thus inexhaustible and with that it finds comfort and stability, an unshakable sense of existance because its source is the ever flowing nature of the principle of infinity and that its existance is infinite.

 

This collective awareness and the principle of perception percieve that it is the spirit and awareness of the everflowing nature of infinities expressions. It percieves that its everflowing nature which emanates from the principle of infinity will continue without end, that there is no force greater to act upon it, no resistance to slow it and in this it feels comfort and bliss.

 

The principle of perception considers the potentials of its elements, the arrangment of things and the possibility of others.

 

It knows the posotive is a reflection of the negative, and it knows what is is in compliance and dictated by and with the principle of infinity and becaause it knows what is, it percieves what is not.

 

It considers what is, and considers what is not. It becomes aware that there is potential for what is not, there is potential in these conceptual elements for form and space-life and communication amidst the spirits contained in and comprised of the field of eternally negative energy.

 

And creation proceeds to unfold as the spirit proceeds to manipulate both posotive and negative, and in this act of creation is the formula of creation; of part distanted by time perception and space, and this formula can be described as to conceive an image of it

Edited September 12, 2011 by ion

[deci belle]

Ke ono nalu nui!!❤

[ion]

The charecteristics of old female is as thus, she is simply the lowest point of negative energy fathomable.

 

If a thing, a form is considered in comparrison to her as a relative energy, her latent potency springs to precisely reflect it, and at once diffuse and consume it. Whether it be the brightest star in the galaxy or a bolt of lightning, placed directly in her stillness would immediately difuse into vaccuity and she would return to her state of latent potency. This is an expresson of her perpetual vitality.

 

Likewise-

 

 

Her latent potency is negative , female, because of this receptive quality of reflecting. By remaining bottomlessly negative any energy in comparisson would be considerably positive to her negative. Conserving her infinite energy, she is lower then anything, yet is any positives exact reflected negative, and with exact symmetry become that relative positives immediate exploitation.

 

So her quality is total reception and exact energic reflection so always in conservation she never exerts her own energy because its like she has infinitely none.

 

This why the original negative energy of the universe is considered female, because of its receptivity.

 

Yet these are illistrations to make a point of the bottomlessness of old female. The things used to compare are fluxuations and combinations of fluxuations of her original energy and so is the feild containg such a comparison.

 

As the nature of the manifesting of our creator is described-

 

From the sourceless source comes the primary feminine power and from her the male power.

From that proceed all elements of time form and perception,

and from their unification rises the principle of mind which is the creator of all things and by which all things are possable.

 

In essence the creator descends to the law of nothing and considers it by percieving from its perception.

 

It considers the law of suffering and that to suffering eternity must submit, and in an infinity be eternally aware of it.

 

But it considers the earth, and the spirit of the earth, the life sta,r the livving sphere, and considers the hummanoid within that sphere.

 

The creator considers the principle of infinity, and percieves through its perception the path of heaven and the extinguishing of the dimmension of suffering with the establishment of heaven among the human.

 

The creator percieves from the perception of the expression of true source, the selfless one without self, that human percieve the path of heaven that leads from suffering to heaven among human and our creator proceeds to believe that human will extinguish the dimmension of hell, and all the spirits of infinity selflessly and without self submit to the belief.

 

When the creator percieves the path of redemtion from the perception of the sourceless source, the principle of infinity without self to the belief of the creator, and infinities expressions becomes the creators expressions and our creator percieved new meaning in them.

 

It has been said that the eldest mother of orgins, the stillness of old female has a negative charge just below anything compared to her, and that is the resting point of the original latent potential energy neutrilised by the law of nothing, and it has been reffered to that the male contracts and in relation to female appears to undulate.

 

At the dawn of the creator, and at eternities realization of the path of heaven for humanity, the activity, that is the eternal field of infinite vaccuity seemingly submits to male.

 

Female integrates male to retain female.

 

The male retains its infinite energy potential but appears to accelerate its discharge of the energy, female according to the law shows the immediate reflection but in the opposite sense but still remaining symmetry and her velocity of exploitation of the energy is slowed.

 

This in essense, this flux in expressing equal rates of energy discharge and exploitation at equal rates is the female eternally but never fully submitting to male, and male forever dominating female but never conquering, but that is in essence and is not so. It is the creator percieving a difference by simultaneouslly considering relative speeds in the rate of discharge and diffusion, and it is only percieved by the creator from its relative position of opposition.

 

In this perception it appears that by accelerating force it reduces its power of contraction to just below its max point, an almost measurable point and permeates the vaccuity of female. This seemingly reduced charge which is accelerated discharge enters the original vaccuity of new female and a relative negative charge surrounds it according to the nature of male and female, and in the nature of non-existence, the elements dependant on the male and female proceed to multiply and divide the phenomenon by the power of the force of symmetry, and so another male force with the symmetric exactness of the first is accelerated into the slowed vaccuity of new females original activity.

 

Due to the law of congregating likeness's and conflating sameness's the two altered male and female spheres are drawn to eachother, but these negative charges conflate and become a larger space in appearance and this continues to happen at a rate of infintesimal acceleration. And this is the female integrating male and the creation of universal space. This growing space is the dimmension of existance of form and time. at this stage of the development of our universe the space is empty yet traversable. It is as cold as can be and in it there is no light.

 

According to the nature of the formless elements, the male and female, and symmetry the space becomes necessary to fill to neutrilize and balance and this is accomplished by male integrating female and the creation of the first non-emmiting orbs of light which undulate according to certain color waveleangths of light and the dynamic relationship to neutrilize color imbalnce in the infinitely expanding space around them.

 

Male integrates female to retain male...

[ion]

Dependant on admiration are pride envy, and spite. These are things made by men. No God or gods requires worship from us that is a fascination of of the ego, a temporal aspect of human.

 

To be withh old female simply hold her stillness in mind. Recognize this stillness as the fundamental essence and energy, as old female and mother of all things. Understand that this stillness is her energy and that the flesh in which the understanding is held is the same sacred energy, and the bone incasing the flesh is her energy and the sinews,muscle, and tissues around the bone and facing the light is her energy and the space surrounding you is this same energy of stillness. That the attention holding and the awareness in which the thought is held is her energy and you will have relaxed affectionately with the eldest mother of orgins.

 

It has been said that because of the unconfinable all encompassing nature of infinity that the law of nothing trancends the quality of female and is expressed also as male and female.

 

And that because of this expression of the nondualistic nature of the sourceless is expressed that as a byproduct that symmetry exist within the original male and female, and that by the original actless act which in essence occurs also as a byproduct of the all encompassing nature of the sourceless expression that all the fundamental laws of nature come into the pseudoexistence of nonexistence and thus attain eternal spirit.

 

And that these spiritual creatures can be named, it would be an endless convolusion to enummerate them, yet for the sake of communication a few can be made.

 

At the spontaneous onset of the original male these spiritual creatures as others that have been mentioned spontaneouslly arise:

 

Symmetry, differintiation, diversification, multiplication, replication, addition, attraction, and the births still go on as an infinitude of concepts were concieved by our creator.

 

And at the arising of these creatures and their proactive, interactive dynamic, other creatures give rise.

 

Because there are opposites, and because there is attraction and addition and multiplication, there is also samenesses, repulsion, subtraction and division.

 

Yet there is no form, these principles and there spirits exist yet they have no relative nature outside of our creators perception.

 

Because there is compatability, symmetry and diversification, and sequence, there is merging, replication and there is evolution.

 

Because there is evolution by way of, in essence symmetry diversifying, there is the concept of many things comming from one. In that, there is the concept of differences and there interactions and the product of different things interacting, and thus there is conceptualy the concept and spirit of time.

 

All these exist in spirit in non-existence yet their forms are never made substantial, but existence is the mother and evolution of their comming to life.

 

It has been said that at the creation of dimmensional space that the great vaccuity in activity with the original male was percieved as having a slow rate and that the male was seen as having an accelerated rate, and that because of that it was possable for the creator to percieva a male discarge energy at a slow rate and this generated a field of negative energy with an accelerated rate and that because of this the accelerated activity within the slowed activity created space.

 

And that after the first by the law of eternity came many, and because of the contrasting nature athe many congregated and formed one and that as they do this, dimmensional space grows.

 

Because of the attractive nature as the male at the center of the sphere of space have such a strong posotive force they are compacted out of existance and the space around them is an exact reflection of their inward pull. They have a strong attraction to eachother but do onot unify as to form one posotive force, but they pass through and revolve around eachother and so the space becomes one negative field around them and this is dimmensional space before time, the void in which filled, we exist.

 

Space is the contrast between a slowed infinitely large negative feild in activity, and an accelerated negative feild within that which is the field of dimmensional space. And within that field is invisable male forces holding up the empty space. And this space is percievable by yahweh as form and existence.

 

As this space is growing the creator concentrates on the quality of male and its undulating contractions. The creator holds the concept of a color and its waveleangth as light. The posotive force contracts at a rate that cause an undulation that represents a color waveleangth or frequency. Yet it is male so it concentrates and holds that waveleangth within the contracting posotive force, so the undulation that is produced within the field of space does not emit the color it is concentrating or its opposite but every other color but the one being held is emitted so these first fors within our space were orbs of grey.

 

Shades of grey, with a unique color at the center of force. Most shades of grey are almost invisable of dark primal space, but there is an infinite spectrum of the shades of grey some almost white, most almost black.

 

The orbs that are the shades of grey are attracted and repelled to eachother in a negative positive manner, that is to say the male and female in them or of them is still accordind to the original law of nothing, they are still trying to anhilate one another.

 

No shades of grey are exactly alike in this space. The shade of grey that is one orb is attracted to its most similar likeness's and they form unities. One shade of grey exist because it is expressing all the energy of its posotive exept the color frequency that its holding within the negative feild expressing it, because its negative field is trying to anhilate its own core, it will also try and anhilate the same frequency within another similar likeness of its own shade of grey.

 

Since no two shades are the same the negative field doesn't anhilate the other but because it is attracted to the frequency within its similarity and its similarity is like wise attracted to it, the orbs form unities,; bonds of near infinite streangth in an attempt to reach equalibrium.

 

So the negative aspect of one shade of grey is attracted to the positive of its likeness to anhilate it but because of the diffferences the forms form bonds and this happens within the space of total darkness that is an accelerated field of negative energy in activity, within a slowed field of negative energy in activity.

 

As the aggregrates of greys form, the strongest bonds are formed by the darkest shades, and the weakest bonds are formed by the lighter greys. The lighter they are the less they exist. They degrade quickly and become like the original dimmensional space around them.

 

Because there are forms within the forms and because they have behaved in a way, a likeness of thier occurance is replicated, yet also it has diversified and is compatable.

 

At the center of the aggregation of the grey undulating orbs is an aggregation of similar frequencies for the sake of communication they will be called shades of green.

 

Because of the positive nature of the shades of green they form sphere but do not conflate or diffuse with one another so they form an field of empty space surrounded by different undulations of green frequencies which are surrounded and hidden by an aggreget of grey orbs. The aggregations of grey orbs undulate in a spiraling manner because they are expressing the various frequencies.

 

Because of the developing event, the creatures ov evolution diversify the event and the positive force begins to contract in a way to produce orbs of color that hold a grey frquency at their core. They are the corresponding opposites of they grey orbs, the grey within them and the color they emit are attracted to negatives and posotives of the grey.

 

Holding the frequency of green an inverted grey is emmitted by a male force, these unify. Holding the frequencies of grey orbs of color with grey male force at the center coallesce into existence and are attracted to the colors within the greys, and these form unities around and through the grey orbs which undulate in a frnzy of ever changing helixes.

 

Just as with the greys the colors behave similarly but with differences. The greys are attracted to likeness and repelled by differences. However with the orbs of color two or more other colors can form an attraction on one grey cluster.

 

Like so-if the grey cluster is has green frequencies at its center then a blue and yellow orb, if very close will both form a unity around the green, or green colored orbs will bond on a grey with a green core. It is because of this that the patterns and colors produced by the variety of solutions in the frenzied swarm of color and light powered by the law of nothing in its quest of equilibrium, are able to diversify and form different patterns.

 

When the clusters form they begin to have a collective posotive force and it forms a field of posotive energy around the cluster and the negative fields surrounding the cluster become like one negative field with its own spectrum of positive frequencies.

 

The color orbs also arrange themselves not just by opposites and sameness but depending on the pattern of energy around them will bond with colors of lesser contrast to retain them selves in the presence of orbs of contrasting color. An orange orb will bond with a red or a yellow or a tan or will even revolve around grey orbs of diffent colors in order to be reppelled by a blue or purple orb.

 

If in events were contrasting colors bond or form relative revolutions around grey orbs or clusters then the revolutions at those accelerated speeds cause a positive force to self generate around the chaotic bond and it becomes like a for.

 

These revolutions and undulations cast both something like light and something of a shaddow, and this morning and its evening are the first day of existence. And on this first day the earth spirit is present, and she bears the imprint and has the likeness of old female, and is the mother of all soul.

[thelerner]

Works for me.

 

0 is the old lady

1 is the old guy (who comes later)

 

They get together,

have sex

the 1000 things are born.

Edited September 12, 2011 by thelerner

[ion]

Pretty much, but more like 0- gets togeather with 0+ and a myriad of pseudo-1's pops up out of nowhere, but remain 0. "1" of the pseudo-1's is mind, and concieves of "1" and the myriad of pseudo-1's multiply, divide,elaborate and diversify the 1 into an infinitude of livving things.

Edited September 12, 2011 by ion

[thelerner]

Pretty much, but more like 0- gets togeather with 0+ and a myriad of pseudo-1's pops up out of nowhere, but remain 0. "1" of the pseudo-1's is mind, and concieves of "1" and the myriad of pseudo-1's multiply, divide,elaborate and diversify the 1 into an infinitude of livving things.

Cool, seems very Taoist. You're writing about God,gods and origins. How real are they to you? To what, if any extent do you see things that others miss?

[ion]

Cool, seems very Taoist. You're writing about God,gods and origins. How real are they to you? To what, if any extent do you see things that others miss?

 

I believe what I wrote is "real" in as much as it is an illustration to describe the Tao of creation, and to illustrate certain concepts and principles at work.

 

I believe that pretty much all religions and concepts about God and gods are derived from the Tao of creation in an attempt to thingafy the un-thingable.

 

Trying to name the eternal and unnamable, trying to asign attributes to certain aspects of Tao is the orgins of the percieved gods and religions that are dependent on them.

 

All things are sentient, and all aspects of the Tao are manifistations of the Tao and have awareness, they exist within time and space where they are percieved, and also exist in the realm of no-form/pure-awareness(spirit) in an infintesimal point.

 

Some examples of people trying to define and linearize the Tao of creation are here

here-dyzan

 

 

here-genesis

 

Even concepts of angels rebeling in heaven are derived, yet contrived, from the Tao of creation.

 

 

 

Here is something I wrote elsewhere to describe what I believe about God and Satan-

 

The collective consciousness of humanity, trancedentaly, in past and present has an ego comprised coleectively from all egos both past and present. Consciousness extends from present into past and into future, but ego only exist in the present and the past.

 

Every aspect of reality that is percievable and percieved has awareness and that awareness has spirit. That spirit exist in the dimensional reality it was percieved in, and also in the reality of no-space/time, pure spirit, where all things exist in an infintesimal point. Even a perception a person has, has awareness and spirit.

 

All forces and influence in and around us have an aware spirit; the spirit that influences control over us, is a god, a-demi-god. Ego, self image, words, and concepts are and can be gods.

 

The creator is a god. Karma, order, balance and judgement are aware spirits, and are gods. There is as many spirits and gods as there are laws of nature, at least one for each, and much more.

 

The creator has a pseudo-ego; by percieving order out of in finite chaos, and actualizing it the perception gained a pseudo-egotistical disposition. Yet, because it is a non-relative disposition and there is no ego in relation to it, it is a pseudo-ego, unsubstantiated except by creation.

 

Although it is a pseudo-ego, it is fundamentaly similar enough, that because of the laws of congregation, the attraction of likeness, and the law of conflation of awareness-and also that in the eternal realms of spirit there is niether time nor space, pure spirit, the collective ego of humanities spirit is both fused, and one with the the "ego" of the creator.

 

The spirit of ego now believs it is the God and creator of the universe.

 

I will add that the inevidable development of the ego in humanity, and the consequent conforming of thoughts and thinking faculties, tendancies, and emotions (all of which have awreness and spirit), and the coresponding changing in our collective expression is where both the fall of man stories and the rebellion of the angels stories conform to this belief.

 

 

To what, if any extent do you see things that others miss?

 

That is not up to me to say.

 

It is hard to describe what I see becauuse it all has its roots in the formless...I suppose that is what this thread was, an attemt to describe the action and activity of non-existance, the orgins of yin and yang, and how the interplay of yin and yang is a matrix of spirit and awrness's...it is impossable but I'm getting better at it.

 

I have been witnessing the tao of creation and humanity in an ever elaborating form since my youth. It started out as just seeing visions of void and simultaneously gaining an understanding of it as it is and its role in creation. Through the years it has elaborated I started to see the female, the male and their interplay and understanding how why and what was going on...through the years it has elaborated. Over time I sopped believing in God and came to understand the "gods".

 

I dont know if that answers your question?

[ion]

Cool, seems very Taoist. You're writing about God,gods and origins. How real are they to you? To what, if any extent do you see things that others miss?

 

I believe what I wrote is "real" in as much as it is an illustration to describe the Tao of creation, and to illustrate certain concepts and principles at work.

 

I believe that pretty much all religions and concepts about God and gods are derived from the Tao of creation in an attempt to thingafy the un-thingable.

 

Trying to name the eternal and unnamable, trying to asign attributes to certain aspects of Tao is the orgins of the percieved gods and religions that are dependent on them.

 

All things are sentient, and all aspects of the Tao are manifistations of the Tao and have awareness, they exist within time and space where they are percieved, and also exist in the realm of no-form/pure-awareness(spirit) in an infintesimal point.

 

Some examples of people trying to define and linearize the Tao of creation are here

here-dyzan

 

 

here-genesis

 

Even concepts of angels rebeling in heaven are derived, yet contrived, from the Tao of creation.

 

 

 

Here is something I wrote elsewhere to describe what I believe about God and Satan-

 

The collective consciousness of humanity, trancedentaly, in past and present has an ego comprised coleectively from all egos both past and present. Consciousness extends from present into past and into future, but ego only exist in the present and the past.

 

Every aspect of reality that is percievable and percieved has awareness and that awareness has spirit. That spirit exist in the dimensional reality it was percieved in, and also in the reality of no-space/time, pure spirit, where all things exist in an infintesimal point. Even a perception a person has, has awareness and spirit.

 

All forces and influence in and around us have an aware spirit; the spirit that influences control over us, is a god, a-demi-god. Ego, self image, words, and concepts are and can be gods.

 

The creator is a god. Karma, order, balance and judgement are aware spirits, and are gods. There is as many spirits and gods as there are laws of nature, at least one for each, and much more.

 

The creator has a pseudo-ego; by percieving order out of in finite chaos, and actualizing it the perception gained a pseudo-egotistical disposition. Yet, because it is a non-relative disposition and there is no ego in relation to it, it is a pseudo-ego, unsubstantiated except by creation.

 

Although it is a pseudo-ego, it is fundamentaly similar enough, that because of the laws of congregation, the attraction of likeness, and the law of conflation of awareness-and also that in the eternal realms of spirit there is niether time nor space, pure spirit, the collective ego of humanities spirit is both fused, and one with the the "ego" of the creator.

 

The spirit of ego now believs it is the God and creator of the universe.

 

I will add that the inevidable development of the ego in humanity, and the consequent conforming of thoughts and thinking faculties, tendancies, and emotions (all of which have awreness and spirit), and the coresponding changing in our collective expression is where both the fall of man stories and the rebellion of the angels stories conform to this belief.

 

 

To what, if any extent do you see things that others miss?

 

That is not up to me to say.

 

It is hard to describe what I see becauuse it all has its roots in the formless...I suppose that is what this thread was, an attemt to describe the action and activity of non-existance, the orgins of yin and yang, and how the interplay of yin and yang is a matrix of spirit and awrness's...it is impossable but I'm getting better at it.

 

I have been witnessing the tao of creation and humanity in an ever elaborating form since my youth. It started out as just seeing visions of void and simultaneously gaining an understanding of it as it is and its role in creation. Through the years it has elaborated I started to see the female, the male and their interplay and understanding how why and what was going on...through the years it has elaborated. Over time I sopped believing in God and came to understand the "gods".

 

I dont know if that answers your question?

[thelerner]

I have been witnessing the tao of creation and humanity in an ever elaborating form since my youth. It started out as just seeing visions of void and simultaneously gaining an understanding of it as it is and its role in creation. Through the years it has elaborated I started to see the female, the male and their interplay and understanding how why and what was going on...through the years it has elaborated. Over time I stopped believing in God and came to understand the "gods".

 

I dont know if that answers your question?

Yes, very well with food for thought left over. Thanks.