free will is worthless

[Protector]

As a Daoist I believe in destiny

I believe in free will

I believe in free will and destiny

I believe in neither

[Marblehead]

As a Daoist I believe in destiny

I believe in free will

I believe in free will and destiny

I believe in neither

 

I believe in both.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

What Free Will is:

The intrinsic ability within all matter to make decisions within the framework of their body/being.

 

(a single cell's choices are much more vastly limited than an organ's and their choices, as all choices, are limited to the capabilities of the body and it's needs for survival)

 

What Free Will does:

It keeps the Shen from becoming stagnant. Without free will, the experience becomes so predictable that there would be no point in partaking, and all matter would convert to pure immaterial energy.

 

(Free will stirs soup.)

 

Fate:

An unpredictable choice leading to a slightly more predictable outcome.

 

destiny:

The conglomeration of choices leading to a binding outcome. the more fates you have, the more accurate the prediction.

 

((1+1) (+1) (+2) (+3) (+5) (+8) (+13) (+21) (+34) (+55) (+89) (+144) (+233) (+377) (+610) (+987) (+1597) (/987=) note, each (equation) is an individual fate, not a multiplier)

 

WHY IS ALL OF THIS?

 

Because you cant have one part without all other parts. remove just one piece of the equation and it all goes back to immaterial energy and we have to start from chicken scratch. In nothingness comes awareness, comes consciousness, comes creativity.

 

The creation is inevitable, so why not make it worth while; after all if it werent worth it, we'd revert to void, since that's not much different than something completely predictable.

 

Infinity (1); eternity is a fact.

Edited September 17, 2011 by Hot Nirvana Judo Trend

[XieJia]

The Dao is free but does it have will.

For things under Heaven, they have function

but does it have fate?

 

The Free, The Will, The Fated...

What a concept...

 

 

[Marblehead]

Nice post.

 

Just wondering why you threw this in though. Hehehe.

 

Infinity (1); eternity is a fact.

 

Yes, infinity is a fact (at least in our mind). Eternity though? Eternity of what? Never mind. To talk to this would take us way off topic.

Edited September 17, 2011 by Marblehead

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

Infinity, eternity, everlastingness, they are indistinguishable.

 

 

Infinity is not numerical, it is..... isness; eternity.

 

 

The two statements are the same, paraphrased.

 

(1) refers to the computer toggle options 1/0

 

Or is it infinity (2)?

[Marblehead]

Or is it infinity (2)?

 

One gave birth to two;

Two gave birth to three;

Three gave birth to the ten thousand things.

 

And we all know that there are more than ten thousand things.

 

Trillion has become a commonly used numerical value now-a-days.

 

But we all have free will within the confinements of our individual limitations.

 

And I know this: the older we get the fewer choices we have.

 

Therefore, do it while you are young lest you run out of options during old age.

 

Now! Where the heck did I put my free will?

Edited September 17, 2011 by Marblehead

[XieJia]

Lol , we lose it when we see the choices and make them didn't we.

[Marblehead]

Lol , we lose it when we see the choices and make them didn't we.

 

Hehehe. Yep. Once we have made a choice and acted on it the free will is all gone for that condition. New game!

[Protector]

I believe in both.

All 8 of them?

[Enishi]

In one sense free will could be seen as an illusion, just as the perception of being a wholly separate entity is an illusion.

 

On the other hand, respecting this "illusion" in some form is pretty much the core of all morality. Only an individual has the right to give up their own free will illusion.