The Underwater Atlantean Cities found off the coast of Cuba

[Immortal4life]

Underwater cities off Cuba part of lost Atlantis

Skepticism and Science are defeated

Videos with images of the underwater cities discovered off Cuba, consisting of Pyramids, Cubic structures, Domes, Metallic structures, and Roads, 2000 feet under the sea-

 

Part 2-

 

The World's Mysterious Places-

 

Edgar Cayce on Atlantis
Mysterious Places: Atlantis (Morgana's Observatory)

Article about Plato's description
The Cycle of Time

"Brushing Off the Enshrouding Dust": The Ancient Atlantic Continent
http://www.pureinsight.org/node/5437

The Ancient Hebrew Kabbalistic and Magic Alphabets
Kabbalah

 

"Its figures are supposedly derived from the constellations. Advanced students of occult philosophy will come upon many valuable documents in which these figures are used. Under each letter of the first alphabet above is its equivalent in English. Above each letter of the other three alphabets is its Hebrew letter equivalent."

Tarot and Hebrew Alphabet are both 22 parts + the name of god YHVH. Greek and even English could be more distantly related, english alphabet is 26 parts. Tarot is where heiryoglyphs come from
Tarot - Crystalinks


40,000 year old footprints in mexico cause evolutionists to scramble to make desperate and irrational exuses.
Mexican Footprints

lol! "evolutionists unhappy with results!" Notice how they claim, "it must be either a whole magnitude wrong and they must be way older, or they're not footprints at all then probably, or this or that excuse, but it can't be what the dating methods indicated!" Lol @ scrambling to make excuses and reinterpret things
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2006/0..._footprints.asp


There are over 100 submarine plateaus and ridges scattered throughout the oceans, dotted with islands, and many may be submerged continental fragments that have not been completely ‘oceanized’, as suggested by ‘anomalously’ thick crust and finds of ‘impossibly’ ancient continental rocks.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/eastern_island/easter04.htm


More potential lost continents-


Ice Age civilizations destroyed, as well as massive extinctions of animal species, such as the Wooly Mamoth, Wooly Rhino, and Sabretooth Tiger-

 

Earth changes, we know the exact dates
The Official Graham Hancock Website: Underworld
NASA GISS: Science Briefs: Sea Level Rise, After the Ice Melted and Today
Geotimes - June 2002 - Glacial Mystery

 

 

The rate of sea level rise slowed between 14,000 and 12,000 years ago during the Younger Dryas cold period and was succeeded by another surge, "meltwater pulse 1B", 11,500-11,000 years ago, when sea level may have jumped by 28 m according to Fairbanks,

 

ANTARCTIC ICE SHEET KEY TO SUDDEN SEA LEVEL RISE IN THE PAST
http://eobglossary.gsfc.nasa.gov/Newsroom/...0203288330.html

 

 

 

"This event happened near the end of the last Ice Age, a period of de-glaciation that lasted from about 21,000 years ago to 12,000 years ago," Clark said. "The average sea level rise during that period was about eight millimeters per year. But during this meltwater pulse there was an extremely rapid disintegration of an ice sheet and sea levels rose much faster than average."

The amount of sea level rise that occurred during a single year of that period, Clark said, is more than the total sea level rise that has occurred in the past 100 years.

The reality is that sea levels rose quite rapidly.


Ice age map, but they forgot Atlantis, anyways we see most of the world was Frozen, and Africa was covered in lakes and water prior to 10,500 BC. In any case most the the habitable lands centered at the equator prior t0 10,500BC are now under water-


Not the best place to be running around throwing spears at animals-


Glaciers before 10.500 BC


Glaciers after 10,500 BC they melted and the earth's tilt axis shifted



The "Bullard" fit should be called the "Bullshit" fit
Sunken continents vs. continental drift

 

 

A 'compelling' piece of evidence that all the continents were once united in one large landmass is said to be the fact that they can be fitted together like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. However, although many reconstructions have been attempted, none are entirely acceptable. In the Bullard et al. computer-generated fit, for example, there are a number of glaring omissions. The whole of Central America and much of southern Mexico -- a region of some 2,100,000 km² -- has been left out because it overlaps South America. The entire West Indian archipelago has also been omitted. In fact, much of the Caribbean is underlain by ancient continental crust, and the total area involved, 300,000 km², overlaps Africa. The Cape Verde Islands-Senegal basin, too, is underlain by ancient continental crust, creating an additional overlap of 800,000 km². Several major submarine structures that appear to be of continental origin are also ignored, including the Faeroe-Iceland-Greenland Ridge, Jan Mayen Ridge, Walvis Ridge, Rio Grande Rise, and the Falkland Plateau.

Map


There is simply no fit. They don't even fit together and its a big lie!


We also see that this area was once the edge of a continent now lost in the Atlantic Ocean. Obviously a continent existed between north and south america in the Atlantic Ocean, Plate tectonics is nonsense

What kind of catacalysm hit the globe so hard that we forgot about a whole continent full of pyramids, civilized and indeginous cultures?

 

 

Rumours of Cataclysm

Following Columbus' celebrated landfall in the Bahamas in 1492, Spanish explorers heard stories from the indigenous peoples of the Caribbean and Bahamas that spoke of a flood which had devastated the archipelagos. It was said to have split apart a much larger landmass, killing the inhabitants and leaving the many thousands and islands and cays that remain today. Some of these stories include clues which hint at a much greater catastrophe. One from Tobago speaks of 'the ole moon breaking', while others from Venezuela and the Yucatan allude to a period of darkness, fire falling from the sky and the presence overhead of a fiery snake.

 

Edited January 22, 2013 by Immortal4life

[Immortal4life]

Edited September 18, 2011 by Immortal4life

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Also, one method of very fast travel in those days was through underground inner earth tunnels.

 

Satellite images showing what they are calling a trench going from an island out in the middle of the atlantic connecting to the sunken city off Cuba

 

The image below also shows the same area with a red line overlaid on top of the existing underwater line. The red line turns into white where the line is visibly implied to reveal a direct alignment with the area to the West of the Cuba Island where a sunken city has been found. Read more about the Cuban underwater city in Andrew Collins' special report

Underwater Lines lead to the Recent Cuba Ancient City found Underwater!

 

 

 

More info on how the land sank into the Atlantic ocean

This is very interesting because this is evidence that the whole surface sank to the depth of 700 meters (2,297 feet, or about a half mile down).

 

The area has been seismically active for thousands of years. And what we find on the ocean bottom are fractures from which the magma and volcanic ash came out. From these structures we were able to delineate a configuration of the land that sank because you can see them clearly. The land that sank is very obvious from our image of the ocean bottom. And you can see bays, like harbors, and it's all at the depths of 900 and 700 meters.

 

Geologically, does Dr. Iturralde-Vinent and others have any idea what happened volcanically? Was it one large eruption or series of eruptions?

 

Series of eruptions and as he is saying, it is still active. A series of eruptions that created major tectonic movement to such a degree that land is sinking. For example, Cuba has sank and re-emerged a couple of times! But that was long ago, geologically. Now, what happened more recently geologically is that land sank that joined to Yucatan �_ islands between Yucatan and Cuba, they sank.

 

 

Belize . Massively drilled botomless holes. To exctract minerals, and even in some cases molten power from deep inside the earth, which created unstable land and Atlantis eventually sank from unnatural volcanoes, drilled holes, and widespread severe environmental destruction and pollution which made the earth more unstable

 

Click on link

DIVE BELIZE, The Great Blue Hole, Ambergris Caye, Belize, Diving in the Caribbean

http://www.ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/ar...blueholemed.jpg

 

 

Sattelite discoveries

Satellite Discoveries

 

Lighthouse Reef

Latitude: 17.5 Longitude: -87.5

 

Latitude: 17.36453 Longitude: -87.51448

 

An enlargement below shows linear and angled features.

Latitude: 17.36495 Longitude: -87.55513

[Immortal4life]

More linear and angled features in the enlargement below:

 

More patterns on the Chinchorro Bank, North of the 'blue hole':

Latitude: 18.62085 Longitude: -87.33363

 

 

Florida Keys

This image study includes underwater circular features in linear formations near the Green Mangrove Key, Buchanan Keys and Barnes Key in Florida. Circles in linear formations can also be seen near the Southern tip of Florida on land.

 

On land in Florida

 

 

Giant drilled holes

CLASSROOM@SEA PROJECT

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story...9-30417,00.html

http://www.livescience.com/environment/070...sed_mantle.html

 

 

Seafloor Off Mid-Atlantic Coast Highly Charged with Gas-Vigorous gas expulsion could weaken shelf edge

NSF - OLPA - PR 00-38: Seafloor Off Mid-Atlantic Coast Highly Charged with Gas: Vigorous gas expulsion could weaken shelf edge

 

 

Informtion about Atlantean drilled holes, sinkholes caused by environmental damage in 10,500 BC, and the gravity anomolies caused by Atlantean drilling and industrial work.

http://www.cknw.com/news/news_local.cfm?ca...=news_local.cfm

Jim Conrad's Naturalist Newsletter issued from the Yucatan

Gravity anomaly map of the Chicxulub Crater area. Red and yellow indicate gravity highs; green and

blue indicate gravitylows. The white line indicates the coast of the Yucatan Peninsula. White dots are

sinkholes, called "cenotes." Credit: Geological Survey of Canada

 

[Immortal4life]

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Modern mining, the red arrow in the picture directly above is pointing to a huge mining truck. It takes the truck over two hours to get from the bottom of the mine to the top.

 

John Sparkman is dwarfed as he looks into a sinkhole near Picher, Okla., Saturday, April 6, 2008. Years of lead and zinc mining has left turned the town into a superfund site with sinkholes, lead-laced mountains of rocn, and tainted water.

 

Modern sinkholes

 

Open-pit diamond mine in Kimberley - it is the largest hole excavated by hand (although some claim it is second largest). Anyway, it is huge!

 

I remember seeing on a show something about the layout of the places where the pyramids were built on different continents, Egypt and mexico , being 1/100,000th of the earths suface, perhaps using earth meridians, no one knew for sure how they measured it

 

World Mysteries - Mystic Places - The Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt

 

Clearly if we want to have a greater understanding of relgion and the history of religon, human origins, "the garden of Eden", etc., then we have to study many flood myths all around the world to find independant corroboration and correlations between stories. Obviously one of the most important relevant flood myths to study then, is the story of Atlantis

 

The base of the Pyramid at Teotahuacan and the Great Pyramid of Giza-, are the exact same size btw.

 

Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVhyB7kg_5Y...related&search=

 

Now, here is something quite shocking to science! Mexican and Central american style step-pyramids found in the Canary islands on the other side of the Atlantic, closer to Spain than to Mexico. Discovered by Dr. Heyerdahl who has done extensive research on the pyramids of Peru

 

Pyramids

Unexplained Mysteries :: The lost pyramids of Guimar

Pyramids in Spain - Crystalinks

 

and

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/G...Pyramid-of-Giza

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/M...ematical-Papyri

 

[Immortal4life]

 

Originally the Pyramids had a nice shiny outer coating, and capstones at the top.

 

Even today, possibly 10s of thousands of years later, they dwarf modern Cairo buildings. The bottom layout area is larger than many many football fields. Each layer is perfectly level.

 

Chinese and Tibetan Pyramids.

 

 

Redating the sphinx-

Hometown Has Been Shutdown - People Connection Blog: AIM Community Network

Lost Secrets Of The Sphinx

 

 

Also, Atlantis is associated with Egypt in some cases. The knowledge of the history about it is said to come from Egypt, who kept records of Atlantis' existence. The ancient Greeks thought Giza to be a wonder of the ancient world,

 

Lost Secrets Of The Sphinx

http://www.keysofenoch.org/html/giza_update.html

2. Tunnels & Chambers Under The Great Sphinx

 

(I) In a series of expeditions between 1991 and 1993 led by John Anthony West, and independent Egyptologist, scientific investigators conducted geological and seismic surveys around the Great Sphinx of Egypt. The chief geologist was Dr. Robert Schoch, Professor of Geology at Boston University, and the chief seismologist was Thomas Dobecki from the highly-respected Houston consulting firm, McBride-Ratclif & Associates.

 

(II) The team's conclusions were as follows:

 

A. Geology, The pattern of erosion on the Sphinx indicates that it was carved at the end of the last Ice Age, when heavy rains fell in the eastern Sahara - perhaps more than 12,000 years ago. This contrasts starkly with the 'orthodox' Egyptological dating for the Sphinx of around 4,500 years ago.

 

B. Seismography. The seismic survey indicated the existence of several unexplored tunnels and cavities in the bedrock beneath the Sphinx, including a large rectangular chamber at a depth of some 25 feet beneath the monuments front paws."

 

And-

" The idea of there being a secret chamber buried somewhere beneath the Sphinx was first popularized by renowned psychic Edgar Cayce in 1932. Cayce believed that this secret chamber contained an ancient Hall of Records, which contained, among other things, manuscripts detailing the history of mankind much further back than we are currently aware - possibly even back to the world before the Flood. He also predicted that the Hall would be discovered sometime around the year 2000.

 

In recent years, this prophecy may have come true. Scientists using an array of techniques, searching on and around the Sphinx, have discovered one or more large, box-shaped, hollow areas just below the Sphinx. One of these enclosures is located beneath of the paws of the Sphinx, just where Cayce had predicted the Hall of Records would be found. Bauval explains,

 

The Giza necropolis, it seems, has finally decided to discharge all its secrets at once. For not far from the Great Pyramid, in a shallow enclave to the East, is the Great Sphinx. It, too, may be guarding a treasure-trove under its belly: a "Hall of Records" of a civilization long lost in the mist of time. There, too, with amazing synchronicity, an entrance to such a vault has been known since 1993. Why have these "chambers" not yet been opened? What could be within them? Could the Egyptian authorities know more than they are letting on?"

MYSTERIOUS WORLD: Autumn 1999: The Riddle of the Sphinx Part IV: The Secret Chamber

http://www.michaelmandeville.com/phoenix/h...ecordsfront.htm

 

From the Egyptologists themselves

Sphinx Stuff

Florida State University, on behalf of the Schor Expedition, carried out a remote sensing survey around the Sphinx and elsewhere on the plateau for three weeks in April 1996. They claimed to have found "rooms and tunnels" in front of the Sphinx and running from the rear of the Sphinx. Several other projects have made similar claims:

 

SRI International did an electrical resistivity and acoustical survey in 1977-78.

 

In 1987 a Japanese team from Waseda University (Tokyo), under the direction of Sakuji Yoshimura carried out an electromagnetic sounding survey of the Khufu Pyramid and Sphinx. They reported evidence of a tunnel oriented north-south under the Sphinx, a water pocket 2.5 to 3 m below surface near the south hind paw, and another cavity near the north hind paw.

 

In 1991 a team consisting of geologist Robert Schoch (Boston University), Thomas Dobecki, and John Anthony West carried out a survey of the Sphinx using seismic refraction, refraction tomography, and seismic reflection. The investigators interpreted their data to indicate shallower subsurface weathering patterns toward the back and deeper weathering toward the front, which they take to indicate that the back of the Sphinx and its ditch were carved by Khafre later than the front. They interpret their data to likewise indicate subsurface cavities in front of the front left paw, and from the left paw back along the south flank.

 

 

We cannot give permission to dig into the natural rock of the Sphinx, or to drill into the Sphinx on the basis of anomalies, especially now that our highest priority is to conserve the Sphinx. Remote sensing programs should anyway be carried out elsewhere to test the techniques, and to demonstrate that it works before it is used to make sensational claims of secret rooms in the Sphinx.

 

Meanwhile, we struggle in our department to save the Sphinx and many other sites and monuments for future generations. We work hard to organize the site for tourism, so all can enjoy our monuments, and we try to balance tourism with conservation. But now other priorities are far more urgent, and we cannot allow digging and drilling into the Sphinx on the off-chance that somehow we have missed the only evidence of a lost civilization!"

 

Proof

 

 

It appears something fishy is going on at Giza, something is being covered up for sure

 

 

Article on the Pyramids

The Great Pyramid, Egypt

 

Pyramids had two purposes. One was for a final spiritual initiation. The long hallway up the pyramid, at one time had magnificent images along it of the stages of spiritual development and the Tarot images. The initiate would be placed in total darkness in the pyramid with a certain ointment on them, and a final enlightenment or near( or complete) death experience would be brought on.

 

They were also power plants. At the very top of the pyramids was placed a capstone of gold with a crystal(maybe quartz?) in it, which I think absorbed and focused rays from the sun. In the center of the pyramid would be placed a large electric capacitor. With the power of the capacitor, and the crystal at the top. Anyways, I'm not too great at explaining or understanding all the exact details. But the Pyramids allowed wireless tranmission to power lights and vehicles, or ships even at one time, without wires or fuel.

 

They were actually built 10,500 BC as opposed to the conventional dating of 2,500 BC. Underneath the Sphinx is Grandmaster Thoth's terrestial airship. In recent times Dr. Robert Schoch and John Anthony West discovered the rain weathering patterns on the Sphinx provides hard evidence that that type of weathering could only happen from 10,000 BC to 5000 BC. Author Graham Hancock has demonstrated that the shafts of the Great Pyramid point directly to certain stars and contellations. But it doesn't match the stars in 2,500 BC, it matches the sky in 10,500 BC.

 

Also, I think I remember reading that there isn't even supposed to be granite in those parts of the sea near Cuba, Florida or Mexico. On a Graham Hancock show I remember him interviewing an old man who remembered tons of granite being excavated and taken from the bimini road area in like the 30s or 40s.

 

On each corner of the the bimini blocks, are very manmade looking sort of small pillars or legs, holding the blocks 6 inches or a foot above the ground.

http://edgarcayce.org/am/androspressrelea.html

http://edgarcayce.org/am/biminiexpedition.html

 

Site tht talks about the A.R.E's ( association for research and enlightenment)

search for one of the "hall of records".

Hall of Records

 

 

This chapter talks about ancient technology that was used in pyramids-

Chapter Nineteen The Children of the Law of One Basic Meta-Physics of Science-Magic

 

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/life/science/sto...1481117,00.html

HFML, Levitation

magnet motor zero gravity chair at hutchisoneffect.com

The Hutchison Effect & UFOs - Shows - Coast to Coast AM

Experiments with Intention - Shows - Coast to Coast AM

tiller.org

 

 

The Ancient Secrets of Levitation

The Ancient Secrets of Levitation

Stone Levitation By Tibetan Monks

Tibetan Secrets of Levitation

 

In his book The Bridge to Infinity, Bruce Cathie recounts an amazing story that he says originated in a German magazine. It tells the story of astonishing feats of levitation accomplished by priests in a monastery high in the Tibetan Himalayas. Here, in English translation, are excepts from that German article:

 

A Swedish doctor, Dr. Jarl... studied at Oxford. During those times he became friends with a young Tibetan student. A couple of years later, it was 1939, Dr. Jarl made a journey to Egypt for the English Scientific Society. There he was seen by a messenger of his Tibetan friend, and urgently requested to come to Tibet to treat a high Lama. After Dr. Jarl got the leave he followed the messenger and arrived after a long journey by plane and Yak caravans, at the monastery, where the old Lama and his friend who was now holding a high position were now living.

 

One day his friend took him to a place in the neighborhood of the monastery and showed him a sloping meadow which was surrounded in the north west by high cliffs. In one of the rock walls, at a height of about 250 metres was a big hole which looked like the entrance to a cave. In front of this hole there was a platform on which the monks were building a rock wall. The only access to this platform was from the top of the cliff and the monks lowered themselves down with the help of ropes.

 

In the middle of the meadow. about 250 metres from the cliff, was a polished slab of rock with a bowl like cavity in the center. The bowl had a diameter of one metre and a depth of 15 centimeters. A block of stone was maneuvered into this cavity by Yak oxen. The block was one metre wide and one and one-half metres long. Then 19 musical instruments were set in an arc of 90 degrees at a distance of 63 metres from the stone slab. The radius of 63 metres was measured out accurately. The musical instruments consisted of 13 drums and six trumpets. (Ragdons).

 

Behind each instrument was a row of monks. When the stone was in position the monk behind the small drum gave a signal to start the concert. The small drum had a very sharp sound, and could be heard even with the other instruments making a terrible din. All the monks were singing and chanting a prayer, slowly increasing the tempo of this unbelievable noise. During the first four minutes nothing happened, then as the speed of the drumming, and the noise increased, the big stone block started to rock and sway, and suddenly it took off into the air with an increasing speed in the direction of the platform in front of the cave hole 250 metres high. After three minutes of ascent it landed on the platform.

 

Continuously they brought new blocks to the meadow, and the monks using this method, transported 5 to 6 blocks per hour on a parabolic flight track approximately 500 metres long and 250 metres high. From time to time a stone split, and the monks moved the split stones away. Quite an unbelievable task. Dr Jarl knew about the hurling of the stones. Tibetan experts like Linaver, Spalding and Huc had spoken about it, but they had never seen it. So Dr Jarl was the first foreigner who had the opportunity to see this remarkable spectacle. Because he had the opinion in the beginning that he was the victim of mass-psychosis he made two films of the incident. The films showed exactly the same things that he had witnessed.

 

The English Society for which Dr Jarl was working confiscated the two films and declared them classified.

 

 

Sounds like they're going back in September and October to examine the underwater Megaliths near the coast of Cuba. This time will be a joint project, with National Geographic involved.

 

"New National Geographic/Zelitsky Expedition to Cuba "Underwater City" Site Planned"

Underwater Cities, Submerged Monuments-- New National Geographic/Zelitsky Expedition to Cuba "Underwater City" Site Planned-- Page 27

A clear explanation does not exist of how these structures formed by natural means. Offered this point of view as geologist, I admit the possibility that it could be a question of not natural, that is to say structures, created by man, or some intelligent entity." - Manuel Iturralde of the National Museum of Natural History of the Havana, considered to be the foremost geologist of Cuba.

 

Zelitsky's theory is that a peninsula once stretched from the Yucatan to Cuba, which collapsed due to seismic activity. This reinforces the theory that early man did not arrive in the Americas by crossing the Bering Straits (a land bridge from Russia which no longer exists) but instead arrived from Asia via the Pacific Ocean. British archeologists have found human footprints in Puebla, Mexico that are 40,000 years old. On her early expeditions, Zelitsky discovered an underwater city with not only pyramids, but geometrically precise passages, tunnels and temples, many carved with ancient symbols. Since natural structures can be pyramid-shaped and have straight lines as well, these carvings are especially important. There is still controversy about whether the underwater pyramid off the coast of an island in Japan was manmade or is a natural formation.

 

Also-

Atlantis - Bimini

 

underwater finds off of gibralter-

http://www.arqueotour.com/atlantis/texts/n...-gibraltar2.htm

[ralis]

This is nothing new. How many times are you going to post the same material in the guise of a new thread. Are you trying to garner everyone's attention, here?

[thelerner]

This is nothing new. How many times are you going to post the same material in the guise of a new thread. Are you trying to garner everyone's attention, here?

I agree. As the front of the board becomes increasingly covered in Immortal4's Topics, which are mostly filled with Immortal4's comments to himself it hurts the board. Not all, but most of these would do better in Off Topic, where he similarly has lots of Threads where he is the main contributor.

 

It would be great so see a single archaeology thread and creationism thread incorporate many of weekly topics or put them in a Personal Discussion site here where people could want could find them, and people who don't, have a cleaner discussion site, with less archaeology and creationists Topics in them.

 

my 2 cents.

[Immortal4life]

This is nothing new. How many times are you going to post the same material in the guise of a new thread. Are you trying to garner everyone's attention, here?

 

The information in this thread, on the Atlantean cities, structures, the geology, the sinking of land masses, etc, has never been seen before on this forum.

 

History, our history, human history, is very important to spirituality, and is crucial in understanding how to go about being a spiritual being.

Edited September 18, 2011 by Immortal4life

[Immortal4life]

I agree. As the front of the board becomes increasingly covered in Immortal4's Topics, which are mostly filled with Immortal4's comments to himself it hurts the board. Not all, but most of these would do better in Off Topic, where he similarly has lots of Threads where he is the main contributor.

 

How do interesting threads, with never before seen topics, loaded with sources and citations, "hurt the board?"

 

You apparently don't like them, but you can only speak for yourself, not the board.

 

It would be great so see a single archaeology thread and creationism thread incorporate many of weekly topics or put them in a Personal Discussion site here where people could want could find them, and people who don't, have a cleaner discussion site, with less archaeology and creationists Topics in them.

 

my 2 cents.

 

I think this is a bad idea. The thread would become stale very quickly, it would not be congruent, and a lot of information on specific topics would simply get lost in the shuffle.

 

I have noticed over time, when posting, that a good thread lasts about 5-7 pages. That's how much space it takes to say everything that needs to be said, and every relevant point. After that it is just stubborn people arguing, and it becomes pointless. I don't do redundant 20 page threads.

 

There is nothing worse than seeing a 20 + page thread, many weeks old, being ressurected one more time. It's not user friendly. No new user is going to read it, no lurker is going to read it. It won't draw people to it. Only hardcore forum junkies are going to be interested in that.

Edited September 18, 2011 by Immortal4life

[ralis]

The information in this thread, on the Atlantean cities, structures, the geology, the sinking of land masses, etc, has never been seen before on this forum.

 

History, our history, human history, is very important to spirituality, and is crucial in understanding how to go about being a spiritual being.

 

It all has been seen before in every thread you create. Your threads are mythological at best and offer no proof except conjecture!

Edited September 18, 2011 by ralis

[Immortal4life]

Scientists cannot explain these finds and evidence at all.

 

Even National Geographic admits that there are prehistoric civilizations submerged under the sea that shed light on what were at one time thought to be just "flood legends," including Atlantis.

 

New Underwater Finds Raise Questions about Flood Myths-

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...nkencities.html

"A clear explanation does not exist of how these structures formed by natural means. Offered this point of view as a geologist, I admit the possibility that it could be a question of not natural, that is to say structures, created by man, or some intelligent entity." - Manuel Iturralde of the National Museum of Natural History, Havana, considered to be the foremost geologist of Cuba.

 

Of the many things shown here, are sonar images and photographs of structures that cannot be explained by natural geologic processes, Pyramids, Silicon Roads, Buildings, Domes, and Cubic Blocks, composed of Rock not native to the area, and Metal. Fossil evidence indicates animals 2000 feet below the sea that cannot survive under the Sea.

Edited September 18, 2011 by Immortal4life

[ralis]

Scientists cannot explain these finds and evidence at all.

 

Even National Geographic admits that there are prehistoric civilizations submerged under the sea that shed light on what were at one time thought to be just "flood legends," including Atlantis.

 

 

I read the article and National Geo. does not make any claims! You continue to engage in revisionism to fit your narrative.

[orb]

I find this info interesting and it helps that it's all in one thread.

[Immortal4life]

I read the article and National Geo. does not make any claims! You continue to engage in revisionism to fit your narrative.

 

The title itself makes a claim. "New Underwater Finds raise questions about Flood Myths". In fact there is truth to much of the world's ancient Mythology. The city of Troy for example, was once thought to be a myth.

 

Since scientists cannot explain away this evidence and data, people have to look at it themselves. Right here we have the sonar images and photographs, there is a difference between reading about it and seeing it.

Edited September 19, 2011 by Immortal4life

[Immortal4life]

I find this info interesting and it helps that it's all in one thread.

 

I am gald you like it.

 

That's what I was thinking. I can cite sources and present evidence, and quote some samples of each article. That way, you can spend as much time as you like, you can click what particularly interests you, or you can just browse through.

[ralis]

The title itself makes a claim. "New Underwater Finds raise questions about Flood Myths". In fact there is truth to much of the world's ancient Mythology. The city of Troy for example, was once thought to be a myth.

 

Since scientists cannot explain away this evidence and data, people have to look at it themselves. Right here we have the sonar images and photographs, there is a difference between reading about it and seeing it.

 

You still don't get it! It states that questions are raised and nothing more.

[Immortal4life]

Let's examine your words, to keep context and perspective clear.

 

Your threads are mythological at best and offer no proof except conjecture!

 

National Geographic admits the mythological implications. Mythology, which you dislike so much, is often based in reality.

 

What I offered was not conjecture, but physical evidence, pictures, that cannot be explained by Geologists.

[Immortal4life]

Here's another bonus, a report by Andrew Collins-

http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/articles/atlantiscuba.htm

[Immortal4life]

[fiveelementtao]

I don't understand why you need to keep arguing against evolution. It feels like proseletyzing. It reminds me of the Baptist Church I grew up in. I especially don't understand why you want to come on this forum with the continuous stream of anti-evolution threads. Maybe one or two but every week more and more threads about the SAME thing. We got the message a long time ago. You don't believe in evolution. Can we move on to something that we agree on?... perhaps in context with the purpose of this forum which is to discuss spiritual cultivation and NOT religious dogma?

 

I have been watching your threads for a long time and after seeing you get all the negative responses, I just assumed that in time you would realize that this is the wrong place for projecting your agenda. But, despite all the resisitance you get you keep coming back every week with a new thread about creationism...

 

So, either you are an obsessed narcissist and don't seem to understand that most of the people on this forum don't give a rat's ass one way or the other about the issue OR... You know that people on this forum will hold an opposing view point to to you and you are purposefully trying to incite controversy and argument with people hoping that by proving your agenda you can convert people and save their souls...

 

When I was a born again Christian, I was very familiar with this approach. We were trained to go into hostile environments and "Witness" for Jesus by creating controversy in the hopes of being able to disprove other religious viewpoints in the hope that we could convert at least one person.

 

We justified this with the idea that if one soul was saved, whatever arguments or controversy we created was worth it. You seem to be taking the same approach. So, I strongly suspect you have a religious agenda behind your threads...

 

So, once and for all please ... just state your religious agenda. Are you a Christian? Are you a creationist? Please just a yes or no.

 

Before you answer... If in fact you are a Christian, I want to remind you that by definition if you evade the question or falsely deny then you will be (in the belief of your religion) denying Christ... So, please be honest...

 

If not, then perhaps think about taking your issue to a more relevant forum where people care about the issue...

[fiveelementtao]

The information in this thread... is very important to spirituality, and is crucial in understanding how to go about being a spiritual being.

In your opinion, but many of us don't share that opinion. So, why force it on us? for our own good?

 

How do interesting threads, with never before seen topics, loaded with sources and citations, "hurt the board?"

Because this is the wrong venue for your focus. By taking up so much room on the board with infromation that is not pertinent to this forum, you are distracting at the very least and THAT is hurtful to the forum

You apparently don't like them, but you can only speak for yourself, not the board.

True... but they are speaking for the majority of people on this forum

There is nothing worse than seeing a 20 + page thread, many weeks old, being ressurected one more time. It's not user friendly. No new user is going to read it, no lurker is going to read it. It won't draw people to it. Only hardcore forum junkies are going to be interested in that.

If your subject is relevant to them, they will follow your thread and comment on it. look at the phoenix qigong thread, That is very old and people are so interested in it that it continues to stay new. There are some very old threads here that keep being "bumped" everytime someone reads and responds and keeps it fresh. They do so because THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THE SUBJECT and find it relevant to them... If your threads are getting old and no one is responding it is because no one cares about it. Hijacking the entire forum every time you have an update on the SAME issue is just annoying.

 

But the point here is that there are many many other forums out there that would love to explore and discuss these issues... Christian forums, alien forums, conspiracy forums etc... Why don't you get it that most people here don't care about this? Why not take this information to the people who are going to appreciate it? Why share it with people who have repeatedly told you that it does not interest them? This is more annoying to me than the fact that the issues you raise are not relevant to the forum venue