The Temple of Mu

[Immortal4life]

Manmade structures under the Pacific- border of Mu

In recent times the remains of a prehistoric civilization have been discovered in the sea off Japan at Yonaguni. These remains were last above water 12,000 years ago. This is the great lost civilization that once existed, which sunk beneath the Pacific Ocean. Some people have called the civilization Mu, and some have called it Lemuria.

Here's a really good article on it-
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1678


The Temple of Mu-

 

Short clip about it

 

High Quality video-

 

 

The Temple of Mu Website-
http://www.templeofmu.com/

The islands out in the Pacific are the outskirts of where the land of Lemuria or Mu once was. Some people have also noted that many ancient monuments strangely seem to be built for very large beings. Very few people know a lot about Lemuria, but here is some information-
http://www.brotherhoodoflife.com/styled-6/Mu%20Page.html

There are researchers who are saying that some ancient accounts about it's location do actually conform to scientific ideas about earth plates, etc. Possibly along what geologists now call the "superswell" area in the Pacific where there are now many underwater volcanoes and cenotes, which were not always underwater. Some people also say Mu was even older than Atlantis.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/atlantid...p_lemuria_3.htm

There are other legends which connect to it, such as the Indian legend of Lumania. They may have constructed the moon itself
http://www.nii.net/~obie/historygold.htm

All the researchers I have read about who examined the Yonaguni monuments and temples, stated that it is definite that at least parts of it are manmade, if not all of it. And it's massive-
http://www.lightnet.co.uk/informer/civilisations/japan.htm
http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni.html
http://www.morien-institute.org/yonaguni_schoch1.html
http://www.morien-institute.org/imk12.html#mizostairs
http://www.xpeditionsmagazine.com/magazine...apan/japan.html
http://www.toriitraining.com/yonaguni.htm
http://www.morien-institute.org/interview1_MK.html
http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/underwater/yonaguni.htm

 

"It was obviously made, and used, in the distant past when the area was last above sea-level, "

http://www.grahamhancock.com/images/gallery/yonaguni/1-13.jpg

Man made pathway-




Big enough to swim through

 

 

 

 

Parallel megalithic blocks oriented east to west and lying at the north-west corner of the main monument.

 

 

 

 

 

Second area of terracing half a kilometre south of the main monument. Found at the base of a sheltered east-west defile and at a depth of 27 metres, it could not have been subjected to the &wave and tidal forces

 

 

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[Immortal4life]

Edited October 6, 2011 by Immortal4life

[Immortal4life]

Platform facing east, and the rising sun

 

 

 

Similar to some above water sites-

Terraces and steps: prehistoric rock-hewn structures at Sacsayhuaman (above) and nearby Qenko (below) in the high Andes mountains of Peru.

 

 

 

Hopi Indian story-

http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/umbriel.htm

In the beginning there was only one water and the water animals that lived in it.

 

Then a woman fell from a torn place in the sky. She was a divine woman, full of power. Two loons flying over the water saw her falling. They flew under her, close together, making a pillow for her to sit on.

 

The loons held her up and cried for help. They could be heard for a long way as they called for other animals to come.

 

The snapping turtle called all the other animals to aid in saving the divine woman's life.

 

The animals decided the woman needed earth to live on.

 

Turtle said, "Dive down in the water and bring up some earth."

 

Each time, Turtle looked inside their mouths when they came up, but there was no earth to be found.

 

Toad went under the water. He stayed too long, and he nearly died. But when Turtle looked inside Toad's mouth, he found a little earth. The woman took it and put it all around on Turtle's shell. That was the start of the earth.

 

Dry land grew until it formed a country, then another country, and all the earth.. To this day, Turtle holds up the earth.

 

Carved giant turtle image

Edited October 6, 2011 by Immortal4life

[Immortal4life]

"2.8 Billion" Year Old Sphere's

http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/13920_stones.html

http://www.s8int.com/page9.html

Tiahuanacu, Ancient "Seaport" 2.5 Miles Above Sea Level--Oldest City On Earth?

Tiahuanacu is in the Bolivian Andes lying 12,500 feet (over 2 miles) above sea-level. It is located some 15 miles from the shores of Lake Titicaca. Archeology in general dates the city at c. 200 A.D., but it was not always so.

Its first investigator, Arthur Posnansky, a german engineer who dedicated fifty years to its study, dated its origins to 15,000 B.C. ...

 

 

"2.8 Billion" Year Old Sphere's

 

Over the past several decades, South African miners have found hundreds of metallic spheres, at least one of which has three parallel grooves running around its equator.

 

The spheres are of two types--"one of solid bluish metal with white flecks, and another which is a hollow ball filled with a white spongy center" (Jimison 1982).

 

Roelf Marx, curator of the museum of Klerksdorp, South Africa, where some of the spheres are housed, said: "The spheres are a complete mystery. They look man-made, yet at the time in Earth's history when they came to rest in this rock no intelligent life existed. They're nothing like I have ever seen before" (Jimison 1982).

 

We wrote to Roelf Marx for further information about the spheres. He replied in a letter dated September 12, 1984: "There is nothing scientific published about the globes, but the facts are: They are found in pyrophyllite, which is mined near the little town of Ottosdal in the Western Transvaal. This pyrophyllite (Al2Si4O10(OH)2) is a quite soft secondary mineral with a count of only 3 on the Mohs' scale and was formed by sedimentation about 2.8 billion years ago.

 

Stone Monument at the Temple of Mu-

 

 

 

The main Ziguart at the Yonaguni site was discovered in 1986, but is wasn't studied so much at first because many people weren't really sure if it was man made or what it was. However, some of the things like the Giant head and stadium are much more recent finds. They are still finding new things around that general vicinity of the ocean-

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/japan/japan2.html

http://www.grahamhancock.com/gallery/under...r/yonaguni2.htm

" Around Yonaguni-jima there are a large number of stones, both above and below sea-level, which show clear evidence of 'wedge-marks' having been cut into the surfaces ready for splitting. Near the 'Tategami-iwa', there is a square-shaped megalith measuring more than 30 feet, and this is called 'Sekihi-iwa'."

 

And-

http://www.morien-institute.org/imk5.html

http://www.morien-institute.org/imk9.html

" The images below are of the mysterious 'gusuku cave' that extends inward, and slopes downward, under the gusuku structure. The two images showing the entrance are taken from the outside of the cave looking towards the semi-circular wall feature (left), and (right) from the inside of the cave looking out. It is clear for everyone to see that the 'entrance' has been 'artificially shaped', and this is not something that it is possible to imagine anyone would undertake to do to an 'underwater' cave ..."

 

More-

Thoth

"It was obviously made, and used, in the distant past when the area was last above sea-level, and currently the cave is blocked by an enormous accumulation of soil and sand to a depth of approximately 50 feet ..."

 

Geology-

http://www.gainendesign.com/taizan/sakishi...and/island.html

Based on a resarch by Mr. Sakai at Kagoshima-Univ and Mr. Yazaki at Geological survey bureau.

Comment by Prof. Teruaki Ishii at Tokyo-Univ.

Surrounding of Mt. Urabu and south-east seashore area have the kind of geological features,

so callled "Yaeyama-Gunso"(Yaeyama Layer) made up of "Shale" and "Sandstone".

Arakawa-bana layer composed of Yaeyama-layer spreads from Arakawa-bana cape, just below which

The Structure Is there (see my illustration here), to Sanninu-Terace.

However says Prof. Ishii that the composition of The Structure itself is a little different from

those rocks of Arakawa-bana layer, and is "Silt".

 

 

 

 

Lemuria is often associated with bird headed beings which may have existed and lived there-

Is Garuda, the mythical birdman of the Hindus,

 

The Hopi Native american Kachina doll-

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[Immortal4life]

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[Immortal4life]

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[Immortal4life]

Edited October 6, 2011 by Immortal4life

[Enishi]

I'm not sure about the millions of years worth of human history taught in Theosophy, but I have wondered about the possibility of other civilizations existing both before and during the past Ice Age.

 

With a lowered sea level during the previous Ice Age it's entirely possible that there are areas of previously fertile land now underwater, some of which might have been flooded suddently and violently.

Edited October 6, 2011 by Enishi

[Enishi]

http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/iceciv.html

 

Possible evidence of Ice Age Civilization

in the period of 35,000 to 12,000 years ago include

large stone structures under the sea near Japan,

known as the Japanese Pyramids and called Hiramitsuto,

as to which Shun Daichi says

"There are six places they found structures in the Okinawa area.

One is located in Taiwan. All of them are under the sea.

All the geologists agree that the underwater structures are

at least 12,000 years old."

and

a possible dressed masonry structure site,

now under the sea, off the Bimini coast near Florida,

in the Gulf of Mexico - Caribbean Sea region.

 

However, it is possible that both of those sites

are natural geological phenomena,

perhaps similar to basalt prisms or naturally fractured coral.

 

 

Clear evidence of Ice Age Civilization

in the period of 35,000 to 12,000 years ago

is found in Fukui Cave of Northern Kyushu Island,

the southwesternmost island of Japan,

in the form of Jomon pottery containers, which

(according to Joseph B. Lambert's book

Traces of the Past (Addison-Wesley 1997))

have been dated as slightly later than

12,750 +/- 500 years old,

and therefore consistent with coinciding with

the end of the Ice Age about 11,600 years ago,

so that the Jomon pottery could have been taken

to Fukui Cave of Kyushu by Jomon people

of the Ice Age Civilization when they fled

the flooding of the surrounding lowlands

after the Ice Age ended around 11,600 years ago.

The Jomon people, according to Jared Diamond's article Japanese Roots (Discover Magazine June 1998, pp. 86-94), survive as the Ainu of Hokkaido and northern Honshu, the northeasternmost Japanese islands. They were displaced by Yayoi invaders from Korea around 400 BC.

 

Jomon pottery containers are the oldest known, and the only ones known to exist before the end of the Ice Age about 11,600 years ago. In the rest of Europe, Asia, and Africa, the oldest are Turkish, about 10,500 years old. In the Americas, the oldest from Ecuador, Colombia, Mexico, and the Southeastern United States, and are only about 4,500 years old, according to Joseph B. Lambert's book Traces of the Past (Addison-Wesley 1997).

 

Water-tight Jomon containers made it possible for people to boil and steam food. As Jared Diamond notes in his article Japanese Roots (Discover Magazine June 1998, pp. 86-94), the Jomon Ice Age Civilization could expand their diet to include boiled or steamed leafy vegetables and shellfish. Boiling could detoxify such toxic foods as acorns, and soft-boiled foods could be eaten by infants and toothless old people. They could live well in and near their own villages by hunting and gathering, with no need for agriculture or warfare. They got along quite well without metal tools, writing, weaving, and social/political class structure.

 

 

The Ice Age Civilization could have occupied

the large land mass of the Sunda Shelf of Japan-Korea-China-Southeast Asia-Indonesia-South India,

much of which is now under water.

Although the pottery was too bulky for everyday travel, it could have been carried to Fukui Cave in the high ground of Northern Kyushu Island, now the southwesternmost island of Japan, by Jomon people when they fled the flooding of the surrounding lowlands after the Ice Age ended around 11,600 years ago.

 

Since the water that covers much of the area

of the Ice Age Civilization is not clear water like Bimini,

but is in seas heavily silted by rivers like the

Yellow and Yangtze in the northern Sunda Shelf between China and Korea,

and the Mekong in the southern Sunda Shelf,

and

since a lot of the remaining area has a lot of tropical jungle,

not to mention being subject to active volcanism

and earthquake activity,

and

since the American and Congo regions are now tropical jungles,

artifacts in the 35,000 to 12,000 year age range,

such as Jomon pottery in the northern Sunda Shelf,

may now be very hard to find.

 

[Immortal4life]

I'm not sure about the millions of years worth of human history taught in Theosophy, but I have wondered about the possibility of other civilizations existing both before and during the past Ice Age.

 

With a lowered sea level during the previous Ice Age it's entirely possible that there are areas of previously fertile land now underwater, some of which might have been flooded suddently and violently.

 

Certainly more and more, it is becoming the logical conclusion that advanced civilizations existed prior to the end of the last Ice Age-

http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article482101.ece

 

As for civilizations millions of years old.....it may not be quite exactly how we normally conceive civilizations to be!

http://news.discovery.com/space/super-civilizations-might-live-off-black-holes-110430.html

[Protector]

 

 

Huh? Huh? Huh?

Oh, nothing

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

No worries, I4L:

We are in the apocalypse, the age of revelation, the dawn of awakening.

 

 

Mu will rise again after the polar shit. i mean shift.

[Everything]

Thanks immortal4life for these. Its always nice to have the past become present.

 

The consciousness of these ancient people seem to be joining us.

Edited October 7, 2011 by Everything

[Immortal4life]

Thanks immortal4life for these. Its always nice to have the past become present.

 

The consciousness of these ancient people seem to be joining us.

 

That's an interesting perspective.

 

Many people believe that most from the pre-historic civilizations are back with us today, reincarnated as the people of today.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

Many people believe that most from the pre-historic civilizations are back with us today, reincarnated as the people of today.

 

 

An example of how we are able to re-discover and understand their physical past, like monuments and runes, and bring it back to the forefront of consciousness.

 

 

It's all cyclical, one day WE will become the ancients and the technology we've developed will be rediscovered in some ways.

 

 

We forgot how to use the earth's natural powers to accomplish great feats, such as the pyramid construction, and traded it for mechanical processes.

 

Now we are rediscovering "ancient wisdom". But like i said, our present will one day become estoric "ancient power" to be rediscovered.

 

It's all cyclical.

[Immortal4life]

No doubt the Universe as well as History, is cyclical.

[thelerner]

At the time of Lemuria there was an extensive network of underground tunnels used by people worldwide to travel the world very quickly. However, it was the downfall of Lemuria. In 10,500 BC there was a huge War between Atlantis and Lemuria taking place. The final battle took place near Mauii, and the area of the famous Maui moon craters was where the Lemurians retreated underground. The Atlanteans sealed them in, in the inner earth and basically obliterated the continent of Mu. The famous Craters in the Iao valley are remants of the battle

 

Some Lemurians escaped through the underground tunnels to Mt. Shasta in Californa, and had lived inside and under Mount Shasta until modern times-

 

I found the first post of the thread interesting and plausible. But as it went from geometric shapes found under the water to increasingly speculative to 'wasn't that in Conan vs the Atlanteans' I began to be suspicious.

 

Phrases like 'Real scientists accept that there certainly was a civilization on the superswell, only skeptics are in denial' also fuel my suspicion. Generally Real scientists have real names. Fake ones, are known as 'unnamed experts'.

 

I'm always skeptical of round numbers too. 10,500 B.C the battle raged!! Next year will they say 10,501? Building a 6,000 mile underground tunnel is bad for the environment, even if you have unlimited power sources, flying is faster, cheaper, more scenic then blasting billions of tons of rock, water, oil and god knows what.

 

Also, why use rock? What are they, cave men? If you have super tech or alien magic, build out of metal, nice long lasting stainless steel of space age polymer.

 

Maybe you'd do it if you were being hunted by Lemurians but even then it'd be better to fly then risk underground catastrophe. Also with unlimited power, you think the statues would be a little more sophisticated. What the hell? Are those things remnants they couldn't sell? Even aliens wouldn't take them off there hands at half price?

 

Easter Island didn't go extinct, it went broke because of lack of imagination and poor marketing. Something creators of the Battle of 10,500 B.C. have much of.

 

I could be wrong. There are undoubtedly civilizations that were sunk. Maybe there were some advanced ones. But the original writers lose credibility when they come up with random numbers, and sci fi scenarios with somewhat flimsy evidence.

 

My 2 cents.

[Immortal4life]

It is likely that the Yonaguni area was one of the last places of retreat for the survivors of the pre-historic civilization. It was the outskirts, or border. One of the last portions of Lemuria to sink. By the time survivors had retreated to Yonaguni, a lot of the real high level technology was probably lost. Plus, much is still unknown about this underwater temple, we don't know exactly how it was constructed or exactly what technology was used. Just because it is stone does not mean it is not advanced.

 

The date of 10,500 BC being significant, is not random at all. There is a lot of logic behind it. This date shows up in the astronomy of monuments all over the world.

 

See here-

http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/20546-the-pyramids-of-giza-represent-the-sky-in-10500-bc/page__p__291768__fromsearch__1entry291768

 

It is also what has been called "The Last days of Atlantis". Atlantis is thought to have had 3 major Eras, and the way of life was different in each era. These eras are from 200,000 BC to 50,000 BC, 50,000 BC to 28,000 BC, and 28,000 BC to 10,500 BC. 28,000 BC was a time a great changes and the land was broken up, in 10,500 BC Atlantis fell and was destroyed once and for all.

http://www.shellac.org/slu/scayce01.html

 

We know today that The Earth changed greatly around 12,000 years ago. For example at this time the final meltwater pulses came about which rose sea levels tremendously, and it was the end of the last ice age. The videos in the OP talks about this more

 

Here-

The Official Graham Hancock Website: Underworld

NASA GISS: Science Briefs: Sea Level Rise, After the Ice Melted and Today

Geotimes - June 2002 - Glacial Mystery

The rate of sea level rise slowed between 14,000 and 12,000 years ago during the Younger Dryas cold period and was succeeded by another surge, "meltwater pulse 1B", 11,500-11,000 years ago, when sea level may have jumped by 28 m according to Fairbanks,

 

Antarctic ice sheet key to sudden climate changes in the past-

http://eobglossary.gsfc.nasa.gov/Newsroom/...0203288330.html

"This event happened near the end of the last Ice Age, a period of de-glaciation that lasted from about 21,000 years ago to 12,000 years ago," Clark said. "The average sea level rise during that period was about eight millimeters per year. But during this meltwater pulse there was an extremely rapid disintegration of an ice sheet and sea levels rose much faster than average."

 

The amount of sea level rise that occurred during a single year of that period, Clark said, is more than the total sea level rise that has occurred in the past 100 years.

Edited October 9, 2011 by Immortal4life

[Nanashi]

After hearing Graham Hancock explain his theories on Joe Rogan's podcast, I can see some merit in alternative history. It is pretty interesting, and time has a way of eating things away. I doubt much evidence of our stuff will be around in 10,000 years.

[Immortal4life]

Graham Hancock's work is amazing. I actually made a thread about his research a while back. Here it is in case anyone missed it-

http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/19637-graham-hancock-is-one-of-the-best-researchers/page__p__277788__fromsearch__1entry277788

[Immortal4life]

[Immortal4life]

Here is a great video you might want to check out if you missed it-

 

[thelerner]

Wow, 4 out of the top 5 Articles in the Contributed Article section are Threads from Immortal with the vast majority of posts in them from Immortal.

 

This is my monthly belly aching. Why not start a single thread called What I saw on the History Channel and just fill it up with shows and speculation. Last night they had a show on Presidents and Aliens, based on which founding fathers were influenced by UFO's.

 

You can collect these somewhat speculative shows and post them under either a single thread or in a personal discussion area the board would give you.

 

As the number of your threads climb from dozens to over a 100, it becomes clear that this may not be the site for your writings. Its philosophy, Taoism, Buddhism etc.

 

While it can be said everything is the Tao, this board is not supposed to be a resource for dozens or hundred of threads on speculative history. We're just not.

 

But there are forums that love it. Word of caution; If you started posting dozens of new threads on say Taoism on History/Conspiracy forums, you'll run into flack because thats not what they're about. You can get away with a few posts on say meditation or what not. Even 2 or 3 a month, but as your number rises to dozens and over a 100, you're going to get flack on them.

 

 

thats my Nov. 2 bits.

Edited November 7, 2011 by thelerner

[doc benway]

Wow, 4 out of the top 5 Articles in the Contributed Article section are Threads from Immortal with the vast majority of posts in them from Immortal.

 

This is my monthly belly aching. Why not start a single thread called What I saw on the History Channel and just fill it up with shows and speculation. Last night they had a show on Presidents and Aliens, based on which founding fathers were influenced by UFO's.

 

You can collect these somewhat speculative shows and post them under either a single thread or in a personal discussion area the board would give you.

 

As the number of your threads climb from dozens to over a 100, it becomes clear that this may not be the site for your writings. Its philosophy, Taoism, Buddhism etc.

 

While it can be said everything is the Tao, this board is not supposed to be a resource for dozens or hundred of threads on speculative history. We're just not.

 

But there are forums that love it. Word of caution; If you started posting dozens of new threads on say Taoism on History/Conspiracy forums, you'll run into flack because thats not what they're about. You can get away with a few posts on say meditation or what not. Even 2 or 3 a month, but as your number rises to dozens and over a 100, you're going to get flack on them.

 

 

thats my Nov. 2 bits.

 

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Mod Team

 

You make some valid points here so I've again brought this issue to the attention of the mod team for discussion

 

Mod Out

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[Immortal4life]

You said the same thing about the subjects of biology and evolution. In the end it was never a problem, and eventually many people got past their pre-existing limiting beliefs. The only people that have a problem with me still, are those who refuse to give up their old beliefs and who can see they are being left behind. There are just phases you need to go through. There are certain prerequisites you must go through before you really understand anything. There is no point even contemplating or thinking about spiritual issues, spiritual practices, religious issues, etc. before you understand the past and history.

 

It is not uncommon for the person making the OP to post the post in a thread. Naturally more questions will be posed to the thread maker, than the other way around. It's a good thing, it means it is staying on topic.

 

You just are impatient sometimes, and want to skip levels. You are like the person who just wants to skip all the boring scenes of a movie, and just get to the action that interests you. Or the person who doesn't want to listen to a whole album and understand the artist, but just download a few songs with beats you like.

 

History and the past, science, archaeology, and anthropology, are all relevant as far as what spirituality is true and what spirituality is false. To divorce science and evidence form spiritual beliefs, is foolishness.

Edited November 8, 2011 by Immortal4life