ATMA Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) What is it? How can this be? To be afraid of being afraid... Is some kind of joke? How does one further? Edited November 19, 2011 by ATMA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted November 19, 2011 Any fear will take us to that certain place. The place? That place where we cannot move forward, cannot go backward, but are not comfortable where we are. What a state of being!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted November 19, 2011 "desire is just a memory of pleasure. Fear is just a memory of pain." -sri nisargadatta maharaj Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everything Posted November 19, 2011 If fear is a survival instinct, the fear of fear is anxiety? You can trigger fear when objects approach you at high speeds. You can trigger anxiety by worrying about objects approaching you at high speeds. I never experienced instinctual fear of fear though. Anxiety is more like a choice in my opinion. To worry or not to worry of fear. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted November 19, 2011 What is it? How can this be? To be afraid of being afraid... Is some kind of joke? How does one further? Fear of fear is usually what we mistake for fear. Its painful to get punched in the nose, but it the pain caused by the thought of getting punched in the nose that makes us flinch more than getting punched itself. Similarly with fear...its the mental amplification of the disomfort caused by fear that is scarier than ctually being afraid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everything Posted November 19, 2011 Don't mistake the model for what is being modeled though. In general, model complexity involves a trade-off between simplicity and accuracy of the model. The thing being modelled is infinitely complex, but the simplification or modelling provides us comfort. When you fear to be in discomfort, uncertainty or fear, you tend to seek more models and will depend on them more and more. It is better to experience, which can be drawn from infinitely, and create your own models. The process of creating a model is even more interesting than the model itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted November 19, 2011 What is it? How can this be? To be afraid of being afraid... Is some kind of joke? How does one further? I believe that the original philosophy was: "Do not be fear but to fear the fear itself." There is something that one can be done; but one has not done it before. Therefore, one was afraid that one couldn't do it and backed off without having it done. The first fear was that it may be difficult to have it done. The second fear was that one was afraid of the fear that it was being difficult. Thus one didn't even attempt to have it done because of the second thought of fear and accomplished nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ATMA Posted November 20, 2011 I believe that the original philosophy was: "Do not be fear but to fear the fear itself." There is something that one can be done; but one has not done it before. Therefore, one was afraid that one couldn't do it and backed off without having it done. The first fear was that it may be difficult to have it done. The second fear was that one was afraid of the fear that it was being difficult. Thus one didn't even attempt to have it done because of the second thought of fear and accomplished nothing. Ommmmmmmm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clarity Posted November 20, 2011 Or a fear of not having any fears. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
