Marblehead Posted November 25, 2011 Section C In Lu there was a cripple, called Shu-shan the Toeless, who came on his heels to see Zhongni. Zhongni said to him, 'By your want of circumspection in the past, Sir, you have incurred such a calamity; of what use is your coming to me now?' Toeless said, 'Through my ignorance of my proper business and taking too little care of my body, I came to lose my feet. But now I am come to you, still possessing what is more honourable than my feet, and which therefore I am anxious to preserve entire. There is nothing which Heaven does not cover, and nothing which Earth does not sustain; you, Master, were regarded by me as doing the part of Heaven and Earth - how could I know that you would receive me in such a way?' Confucius rejoined, 'I am but a poor creature. But why, my master, do you not come inside, where I will try to tell you what I have learned?' When Toeless had gone out, Confucius said, 'Be stimulated to effort, my disciples. This toeless cripple is still anxious to learn to make up for the evil of his former conduct;-- how much more should those be so whose conduct has been unchallenged!' Mr. Toeless, however, told Lao Dan (of the interview), saying, 'Kong Qiu, I apprehend, has not yet attained to be a Perfect man. What has he to do with keeping a crowd of disciples around him? He is seeking to have the reputation of being an extraordinary and marvellous man, and does not know that the Perfect man considers this to be as handcuffs and fetters to him.' Lao Dan said, 'Why did you not simply lead him to see the unity of life and death, and that the admissible and inadmissible belong to one category, so freeing him from his fetters? Would this be possible?' Toeless said, 'It is the punishment inflicted on him by Heaven. How can he be freed from it?' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted November 26, 2011 from Victor Mair's "Wandering on the Way: Taoist Tales and Parables" In the state of Lu there was a mutilated man, Toeless Nuncle Hill, who went plodding along on his heels to see Confucius. "Because you weren't careful," said Confucius, "you have long since brought such a misfortune upon yourself. Although you've come to see me, it's already too late." "It's only because I didn't know my duty and was heedless of my body that I lost the front of my feet," said Toeless. "In coming to you now, I am still possessed of something more precious than my feet and that's why I am striving to preserve it whole. There is nothing that heaven does not cover; there is nothing that earth does not support. I thought of you as heaven and earth, sir. How could I have expected that you would treat me like this?" " That was uncouth of me," said Confucius. "Why don't you come in and allow me to explain for you what I have heard?" Toeless left. " Be diligent, my disciples!" said Confucius. "Toeless has been mutilated, and yet he conscientiously studies to make up for the error of his previous conduct. How much more should someone whose virtue is whole!" Toeless went to see Old Longears and told him: "As for being an ultimate man, he hasn't made it yet, has he? So why does he imitate you so assiduously, sir? He probably hopes to become famous for his bizarre ideas and strange notions, but he doesn't realize that the ultimate man would consider himself to be shackled by them." "Why not just have him consider life and death as a single cord and 'permissible' and 'impermissible' as a single strand?" asked Old Longears. "Wouldn't that free him of his shackles?" "Heaven is punishing him," said Toeless. "How can he be freed?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted November 26, 2011 the Mair helps that one make sense. I couldn't get it just from reading the Legge. they're really laying into ol Confucius now. That one seems almost pointless except to say that daoism is better than confucianism! I mean what Lao had to say is certainly nothing that isn't covered elsewhere. I don't really see the point of that chapter except from the point of view of frat rivalry. If the writer wanted to say that life and death were the same, he should have written a story about that. These anti-confucian stories are losing their um je ne sais quoi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marblehead Posted November 26, 2011 they're really laying into ol Confucius now. That one seems almost pointless ... Exactly. The concept had already been presented. Confucius had already been criticized. Just beating a dead horse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites