Acupressure

[Birch]

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My question is about acupressure. Does the technique use the same points as acupuncture? How is pressure at multiple points maintained?

 

Thanks!

[Protector]

Same points but there are some limitations, some points can be only accessed with preset needles and some are deeper under the skin and could be activated with more pressure from the hands, some of them need a vibrating feeling to work, they're all different and it's a lot of work and this should be taught in person

[Taomeow]

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My question is about acupressure. Does the technique use the same points as acupuncture? How is pressure at multiple points maintained?

 

Thanks!

 

There's several systems of acupressure I know a bit, and some are based on the acupuncture points but others are based on the "historic" acupuncture points -- like some aspects of the Korean Su Jok which appear very ancient and use both the later developments of acupuncture points and the earlier ones which are "the system of the human," "the system of the fish," and "the system of the insect." Besides, they use a technique (it is also present in Chinese acupuncture but not as a primary tool -- whereas in Su Jok it may be) of finding the individual points of much importance to this particular individual, which may or may not lie on the meridians. It is pretty amazing to witness (which I have). A practitioner may poke around the hand with a blunt pointed tool, then one finger, then the fingernail of this finger -- in increments of one-tenth of a millimeter -- until the patient suddenly yells in great pain, and sometimes faints! -- if such a point is located, the healing may be instant but they are hard to locate and require much patience and a kind of "second sight" that comes with practice. Then there's the modern "simplified" versions of acupressure, e.g. Ryodoraku, a Japanese-German-Russian system for using twelve points for diagnostic and therapeutic purposes. These are typically used with electroacupressure and all the modern devices and thingies invented for the purpose, but also with the traditional tools. The devices can make it simple for someone who, e.g., can't diagnose from just touching, because they can be hooked up to a computer and the difference of electromagnetic potentials in these points can be translated into simple monkey see monkey do graphs.

[ChiDragon]

Not sure if this should be in healing circle or not. If so, please move.

 

My question is about acupressure. Does the technique use the same points as acupuncture? How is pressure at multiple points maintained?

 

Thanks!

 

The answer is yes. There are three ways to stimulate those acu-points: needle, heat and pressure. Pressure was applied by the mechanical pressures from any object. The needle method is called Acupuncture. The heat method is called Moxibustion. Of course, the pressure method is called Acupressure.

[Taomeow]

The answer is yes. There are three ways to stimulate those acu-points: needle, heat and pressure. Pressure was applied by the mechanical pressures from any object. The needle method is called Acupuncture. The heat method is called Moxibustion. Of course, the pressure method is called Acupressure.

 

You can also apply cold (the point of an ice cube -- some acupoints are preferentially stimulated this way, in particular for toothaches), electrical stimulation, gold pellets with or without pressure, magnets, bleeding, cupping with bleeding, cupping without bleeding, gemstones, essential oils, burning with blistering, burning with scarring, micro-cutting of cross-linked tissues, percussive or vibratory stimulation, implants under the skin and acutattoos, external qigong with projection of qi into the points, voice stimulation (I saw it done once by a master who yelled at the patient's acupoints in a thunderous terrible voice), whispering, spellbinding, noncorporeal work on the acupoints of the shen body, light stimulation, color stimulation, biting, bee stinging (very efficient for rheumatism, arthritis, and a host of neuromuscular disorders), massage with saliva or urine or dot-application of same (e.g., a dot of your urine on the point between your eyebrows is a love spell), magical stimulation with sympathetic or symbolic transition of the points onto the talismanic writings, and on and on. So "there are three ways" should be followed by "most familiar to the Westerners and Western-style-schooled Asians."

[ChiDragon]

The acupoints have the same effect as long they were stimulated by any means. The acupoints are located within the innervation of the nervous system. The acuppoint can be located in any nerves of the human body. If one look close enough, one will see that the meridians are coincided with the nerves of the body. e.g. The Quchi(曲池, LI-11) is on the radial nerve(撓神經). It is 1 to 1.5 inches deep and that is where the radial nerve was located.

[Birch]

I'm glad I posted it here:-)

 

While I don't think putting pee on my forehead is helpful (I use contraception that alters that whole thing anyway;-)) I was reminded of perfumers art by your post TaoMeow. The perfumers advocate very specific points to apply perfume (prior to which must have been actual essences, most of which are now banned substances or on their way to extinction so synthetic versions are being made) I'm currently working with a non-local chi-twiddling insightful therapist dude. Do I explain how this functions? Not very well (I have a banal pragmatic explanation that I can sort of muster if anyone wants one though) Also reminded of mapmaking and the different types of projection used (not sure why that came up) and constellations (a but more coherent but still!)

 

The shouting thing could almost make sense. Our more scientific friends have found that chi-cultivators who use it for healing produce low-vibrational sound which is what does the work (not electricity or anything like that). It's online somewhere. Engineers know about resonance and wave amplification and all that too.

 

Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is that many many 'categories' of point application seem to be in use for different reasons. Some of them 'working' on several levels at the same time.

 

My other question was if you want to maintain multiple acupressure points all at the same time (like you'd use multiple needles in acupuncture) what's best?

[ChiDragon]

My other question was if you want to maintain multiple acupressure points all at the same time (like you'd use multiple needles in acupuncture) what's best?

 

Acupressure was intended for temporarily release of pain or other symptoms. In my wife's case, sometimes, she gets gas in her stomach. The symptom was causing her abdomen to expand and very discomfort. Then she run over to me and ask me to perform acupressure on her back for few minutes to release all the gases. After the performance, I can really hear her burps releasing all the gas through her mouth. BTW I applied acupressure around the Throacic 6(T6) area. It works every time.

 

In your case, may be a little difficult to do.

[RobB]

Hi K,

 

My wife is being treated by an acupuncturist who uses intradermal needles (http://www.acupuncturedirect.co.uk/shop/press_needles/3_29_0_0/default.aspx). These are placed and then taped to the skin and massaged daily (on not, depending on the role of that particular needle). I think I've read of seeds or beads being taped to specific points for similar purposes.

 

Not sure if this helps with what you are trying to achieve. It is a way of providing stimulation to more than one point simeltaneously. Whether the nature of that stimulation is appropriate is, I suppose, another question.

 

Cheers

 

Rob

[Birch]

Hi K,

 

My wife is being treated by an acupuncturist who uses intradermal needles (http://www.acupuncturedirect.co.uk/shop/press_needles/3_29_0_0/default.aspx). These are placed and then taped to the skin and massaged daily (on not, depending on the role of that particular needle). I think I've read of seeds or beads being taped to specific points for similar purposes.

 

Not sure if this helps with what you are trying to achieve. It is a way of providing stimulation to more than one point simeltaneously. Whether the nature of that stimulation is appropriate is, I suppose, another question.

 

Cheers

 

Rob

Thanks Rob. Yes, the beads/magnets good idea.

 

I was figuring if I'm going to learn a bit and practice I'm probably better off without needles:-) Not on anyone else of course!

 

So none of this stuff would go very deep (except maybe the magnet).

 

I recall Trunk did use needles but he stayed at limbs (or he just didn't tell the bums;-))

 

I'm trying to acheive a sort of a basic "first aid" type thing with it for very minor stuff. Stuff like the asprinless headache cure for example. Or digestive things (like yesterday's chilli garlic sauce that was awesome at the time and is now burning like a mfo and possibly causing a headache in the process )

[RobB]

 

I'm trying to acheive a sort of a basic "first aid" type thing with it for very minor stuff. Stuff like the asprinless headache cure for example. Or digestive things (like yesterday's chilli garlic sauce that was awesome at the time and is now burning like a mfo and possibly causing a headache in the process )

 

You might want to have a look at Acupressure for Common Ailments by Chris Jarmey. He was head of the European School of Shiatsu. It might be a good place to start for basic first aid etc.

 

Cheers

 

Rob

[Birch]

Thanks Rob!

 

I'm curious about those transdermal needles. Does it help? What's the goal of having them set up that way? You don't have to go into it. Does the length of an acupuncture session matter to that extent (that you have those specific needles)?

[Birch]

It's a great website but pretty expensive!

 

Is there a North American equivalent you could recommend?

 

Thanks!

[Trunk]

I'm trying to acheive a sort of a basic "first aid" type thing with it for very minor stuff. Stuff like the asprinless headache cure for example.

Most popular acupressure books are exactly that.

- Have a headache? Massage acupoints xyz.

- Have a blahblah? Massage abc.

Cruise amazon.com for such & read reviews.

 

I'm more interested in "how do I gradually open all of my channels?" with no specific ailment in mind. Also, of course, the sex stuff. Section at my site has some miscellaneous that might be of some help.

[Birch]

Most popular acupressure books are exactly that.

- Have a headache? Massage acupoints xyz.

- Have a blahblah? Massage abc.

Cruise amazon.com for such & read reviews.

 

I'm more interested in "how do I gradually open all of my channels?" with no specific ailment in mind. Also, of course, the sex stuff. Section at my site has some miscellaneous that might be of some help.

 

Well, everyone is more interested in different things:-) What can I say? I'm a pedant with all of these attempts at understanding different things in intricate detail.

Thanks for the suggestions. Trunk's site is a good one BTW.

[Mokona]

I live in FL and would like to try acupressure. Can anyone with experience in the field answer a few questions for me?

 

How do I know I have a competant specialist?

 

Can Accupressure be used for general health purposes or do I need to have a specific issue to treat?

 

Can A be used to treat back pain and fatigue?

 

Thanks!

[whitesilk]

should be done based off of need... someone had a cramp once, and I relieved it.

[liminal_luke]

[RobB]

I'm curious about those transdermal needles. Does it help? What's the goal of having them set up that way? You don't have to go into it. Does the length of an acupuncture session matter to that extent (that you have those specific needles)?

 

Hi,

 

The needles don't puncture the skin completely. They can stay in place from one session to the next(my wife sees the acupuncturist once a week). I think one of the benefits is that the needles provide a presence 24hrs a day which effects the flows of the relevant channels. Specifically I think that the placement of one needle - on the most kyo (empty) point being treated has a 'gathering' action. This one is not to be massaged - very important. The other two needles left in place during the week are on the corresponding jysho (full, jammed) points - these are to be massaged (dispersed) three times a day.

 

My wife is being treated for a potential long term issue (rheumatoid arthritis - although that diagnosis is up for question). This acupuncturist has a reputation for being very good with long term issues which may be related to hormonal imbalances.

 

Cheers

 

Rob

[JustARandomPanda]

Is there a DVD out there that teaches Accupressure Qi Gong for opening the energy gates and/or increasing chi?

[johndoe2012]

Is there a DVD out there that teaches Accupressure Qi Gong for opening the energy gates and/or increasing chi?

 

Not acupressure, but Jenny Lamb's Spontaneous Qigong has a "Opening Channels" exercise followed by strike wall with back and tapping "qigong" - involves hitting the body with open and closed hands.

 

I remember feeling a lot more qi in the back after some time doing the above.

 

Ya Mu's book contains a closing exercise which is supposed to open energy centers under the feet (and elsewhere?). Recently I have a lot of throbbing sensations under my left foot so I think it is working

[Ya Mu]

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Ya Mu's book contains a closing exercise which is supposed to open energy centers under the feet (and elsewhere?). Recently I have a lot of throbbing sensations under my left foot so I think it is working

Actually, this closing method can also be utilized as a stand-alone qigong exercise; it helps open EVERY channel, starting at the scalp, arm/hand, chest, back, inner and outer legs, and feet.