2012 Re-Birth "Re_naissance"

[Owledge]

Could you please clear up that statement so that I know what you are saying? I only see descriptions of things that are apparent, but not how that is supposed to negate my statements.

[Harmonious Emptiness]

Do you realize that you are experiencing The Future at this moment? . . . . .

[joeblast]

Could you please clear up that statement so that I know what you are saying? I only see descriptions of things that are apparent, but not how that is supposed to negate my statements.

You're framing things as if it is a chess game, one winner, one loser, gain for me is loss for you. There is only a subsection of phenomena that perform like that.

[Owledge]

You're framing things as if it is a chess game, one winner, one loser, gain for me is loss for you. There is only a subsection of phenomena that perform like that.

But your examples don't show that. They show a possible mix of competition and silent cooperation or a stagnation in competition. The basic phenomenon, competition, is still driven by existential fears. I'm not saying that there can be a different market system where competition is healthy, but that it could get healthier by abolishing competition. You could say that non-capitalist systems are an example for that, but in popular historic examples, usually the same thing that drives competition - existential fears - makes those not work.

 

By the way, funny irony, and more realized by people after the recent financial crisis, that when people say socialism doesn't work as proven by history, it didn't work because of the things that make capitalism 'work' - or not work, depending on how you look at it. There, capitalism showed its basic nature by seeing socialism as a competing political system and trying to sabotage/corrupt it. And this corruption - converting perceived enemies or contenders on the market - shows the mentality of 'I-am-better-than-you', combined with a fear that the other systems might make capitalism obsolete.

It should almost be trivial that the driving emotional attachment to socialism for example is the thrive for society's well-being and happiness of its people, while the driving emotional attachment to capitalism is material wealth, and that has strong potential to create competition within is boundaries. It even claims competition as a basic driving force, while socialism claims cooperation as a basic driving force.

 

It is an interesting though by the way to see corruption as a neutral phenomenon and trying to imagine a capitalist seeing the ideas of socialism 'corrupt' his favorite system. This leads to the insight that if socialists are afraid of capitalism, they might help the latter. And, I mean, history shows that kind of irony in some examples. Here's an artificial one: If you want to fight the banking system, how do you get weapons without the banks making a profit? ;-)

 

When a McDonald's and a Burger King are coexisting next to each other, then that's not because competition can be healthy. Should be trivial. It's simply that in the fast food business, they both stick to their own way because they have no means of being perceivably better in the consumer's eye, partly because they themselves made the consumer that way. It is like a deeply entrenched battle that goes on for years without movement.

Another example: local chinese restaurant vs. McDonald's: McD has better marketing and a and slightly faster food delivery, the chinese restaurant has healthier food and a wider taste spectrum, so to speak. With this mix, none is 'better' than the other. Not to mention that even within the restaurant business, there are sub-attributes that don't compete, but it's arguable whether that's not part of the competition dynamic and created by marketing, since it can be observed how many businesses expand their product/service range to grow (= survive against other competitors trying the same). I'm pretty sure McD's used-to-be-frequent "Asia Weeks" was an attempt to get consumers away from chinese restaurants, and then they expanded it to other nationalities of food.

Edited January 17, 2012 by Owledge

[zerostao]

for full lotus and other interested bums

 

"The amanita muscaria is very dangerous -- you have to eat it very slowly so the liver can convert the poison into muscimol which is a GABA substitute as a neurotransmitter. So at first you get real sleepy since GABA inhibits glutamate that in turn regulates adrenaline but then the brain realizes it's not really GABA and so you get a lack of GABA in the brain and the glutamate levels go super high in the body. The sensation is very strong euphoria with no fear -- since GABA is needed to activate the amgydala that creates fear in the brain. So the Vikings took Amanita Muscaria before going into battle -- the Beserkers. I harvested the mushroom after it had dried out while growing -- it changed from red to golden yellow -- so it was less toxic since it had dried which converts the ibotenic acid to muscimol. Still I ate one shroom in one hour -- very slowly -- since I monitored the nausea levels so I wouldn't throw up. Then the euphoria kicked in and I was in "

 

so i heard this rumor

rumor is that A. muscaria collected in the beginning of the season are more potent, and less toxic to the system, than those collected towards the end of the season. i personally have not done any experimentation in this area, but i do believe that further scientific study is needed to verify this information. from what i understand this is myth has some support in the ethnobotanical lore of Siberian tribes.

 

anyways when i am out in the forest i often run across these. they come in red, orange, yellow. i pick those up.

they also come in brown and white and i leave those alone.

so ifin any bums wanted any of these , i know i will have em

but know what you are getting yourself into, do your own homework