joeblast Posted February 21, 2012 eh, those links...always careful to present just a snippet of information. given the relative rebound in winsconsin's finances its pretty obvious that "pro-growth" policies work, as opposed to other states who have simply accelerated their spending in an effor to dig out of the ditch by digging it deeper - see cali, illinois, ct... Â ...the "loan" shouldnt have even happened in the first place, but for some reason Obama thinks the presidency wields the power to simply shake down industries for cash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted February 22, 2012 on the surface it looks like another TAX on those who can least afford it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted February 23, 2012 The Republican presidential wannabes seem to be more concerned about; birth control, abortion, DOMA, the devil, good vs. evil etc. These concerns are based in fundamentalist religious belief systems which originated during the 'Middle Ages' i.e, 'Dark Ages'. For a return to superstition and the 'Dark Ages' voting for Santorum will complete that journey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted February 23, 2012 The Republican presidential wannabes seem to be more concerned about; birth control, abortion, DOMA, the devil, good vs. evil etc. These concerns are based in fundamentalist religious belief systems which originated during the 'Middle Ages' i.e, 'Dark Ages'. For a return to superstition and the 'Dark Ages' voting for Santorum will complete that journey. Its funny that this only got brought up because of media collusion - the republicans have been talking about Obama's failures, and what's the only "safe ground" for him? He certainly cant run on his dismal record. So spread the fear that "hey, since I trample all over the constitution, wait until THESE guys trample the constitution! At least I'll let you have "free" stuff!" And never mention that we all pay. Really, ralis, its pretty amusing how contrived this whole deflection from Obama's terrible governance is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Its funny that this only got brought up because of media collusion - the republicans have been talking about Obama's failures, and what's the only "safe ground" for him? He certainly cant run on his dismal record. So spread the fear that "hey, since I trample all over the constitution, wait until THESE guys trample the constitution! At least I'll let you have "free" stuff!" And never mention that we all pay. Really, ralis, its pretty amusing how contrived this whole deflection from Obama's terrible governance is. Â The OP at hand is in regards to Republicans and not Obama! The OP and ensuing thread, is not a deflection but a discussion of specifics. What I posted has nothing to do with a paranoid view of the media, as the Tea Bagger Republicans love to blame. Santorum has expressed those views and I challenge you to provide evidence to the contrary! Â Given that you have so many issues with Obama, why not start your own thread! Edited February 23, 2012 by ralis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted March 7, 2012 one would almost wonder if this process, the primaries ,are not a rigged deal. no gingrich or santorum on the virginia ballot. and even if santorum had won ohio, he couldnt receive the delegates? some corporation can do a fine job of labeling, presenting, have the coolest comercials, and spend the most outlandish amounts of money to advertise to promote a certain brand of dog food, but what happens when the dog wont eat the food in the can? and it looks like ron paul is just in the race to keep the conservative votes divided, giving romney the advantage. i wonder if romney will spend like he is now if he becomes president? unrestrained spender. he does have as many home states as the bush clan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted March 7, 2012 The OP at hand is in regards to Republicans and not Obama! The OP and ensuing thread, is not a deflection but a discussion of specifics. What I posted has nothing to do with a paranoid view of the media, as the Tea Bagger Republicans love to blame. Santorum has expressed those views and I challenge you to provide evidence to the contrary!  Given that you have so many issues with Obama, why not start your own thread! because then Sean would have to politely ask me to refrain from filling up all of his server space  yup, it was a deflection, a conjuring of a distraction - but huffpo isnt going to tell you that, so it must not be true go ahead and keep up the insults though, I'm sure it does wonders for your ego!   one would almost wonder if this process, the primaries ,are not a rigged deal. no gingrich or santorum on the virginia ballot. and even if santorum had won ohio, he couldnt receive the delegates? some corporation can do a fine job of labeling, presenting, have the coolest comercials, and spend the most outlandish amounts of money to advertise to promote a certain brand of dog food, but what happens when the dog wont eat the food in the can? and it looks like ron paul is just in the race to keep the conservative votes divided, giving romney the advantage. i wonder if romney will spend like he is now if he becomes president? unrestrained spender. he does have as many home states as the bush clan. well, look at who's been setting up the debates! a media that is finally starting to get around to admitting its longstanding liberal biases. stephanopolous worked for the clinton admin, so of course he's in collusion, like it wasnt painfully obvious where the contraception crap started coming from. these people went out of their way to make sure no conservatives are going to be challenging obama. whatever happened to the cain women? gone and never heard from again once he was out of the race. romney was selfish with the newt ads, ya even hear about AGW freaks being happy about him like there's a chance of him being amenable to carbon legislation or something. I hope he's not that pathetically stupid at this point in time. I could somewhat understand 10 maybe 15 years ago, but we've learned a hell of a lot since and also reminded some peoples about radiative physics, now its to the point where actual impersonations are happening to try and make people look bad, its pretty pathetic, I thought scientists were interested in the objective truth and not being right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted March 8, 2012 " I thought scientists were interested in the objective truth " there would be very few rare such creatures. of course virginia republicans are now considering mandatory anal probes for senior men. virginia the home of thomas jefferson, mind you. this lessor of 2 evil thing is way beyond outa hand. dont ya think? there is no longer any lessor. matter of fact i had my double expresso shots this morning and i now fly the bird towards all politicians. evil sadistic power monger creatures they be.  http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/signers/jefferson.htm  rain down a n a r c h y tao rain down a n a r c h y a change is gonna come Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted March 9, 2012 key indicator. not scientific even if based on observation. in 1992 would you rather drink a beer with george 41 or bill ? most folks woulda and still probably woulda said bill, right? 1996 bob dole or bill? bill again, right? for most folks anyways. 2000 al gore or dubya? most folks again with dubya 2004 dubya or kerry, maybe a closer call here but still leaning towards dubya. 2008 O'bama or mccain? not even that close . O'bama wins out. now in 2012 would you rather drink a beer with gin rummey, er i mean mitt romney or obama? well , this isnt even a choice becoz rummey wont drink a beer with anyone. obama by default but even given the choice i would rather split a pitcher with barrack. so. gin rummey now calls going to the south an "away game" . this guy just never stops giving, does he? what a gaffe by the great gaffer. in the south they love their southern iced tea. he aint gonna drink a glass or a cup of tea with anyone either. coffee? not a chance. i know he wont put a jaw full of redman in and spit just to look cool. can he at least eat a few grits? probably not. so an "away game" in the heart of his base does not fair too well in my estimation for this guy. in the south even the poor folks will vote against their economic interests to be a proud republican. i seriously seriously doubt they will take much effort this time for this guy. gin rummey is not the game we need in times like these. we need high stakes poker. alot is on the line. so many chips on the table. this gin rummey cant pull off a bluff coz no one really is convinced by what he is saying most of the time anyways. he is a gambler tho. he did offer the governor of texas a 10,000 $ wager on a debate stage. so rummey has plenty of chips an insane amount really, but he throws them out on the table with such casualness. hey its only money. he may as well light up a cigar using a 100$ bill as the match, oh wait , he doesnt smoke either. so strike that. speaking of games away and such. how about Game Changer http://www.youtube.c...h?v=IPhh7mch5zo even steve stein from huffingpost or is it puffington host? hey JB , anyways even steve stein from this arriana huffington creation , steve stein expresses incredibale admiration for who? sarah palin, thats who. damn she could win the south and i would drink a beer with her. the only hope at this point ,it really is that bleak, is a brokered convention. it aint over til its over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sifusufi Posted March 9, 2012 Major Republican anti Castro Miami Movement  Check this out   http://www.theaustra...6-1225894248319   http://www.amazon.co...2899782-8752010   Communist beggars?      American Idol ad nausem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted March 10, 2012 even steve stein from huffingpost or is it puffington host? hey JB , anyways even steve stein from this arriana huffington creation , steve stein expresses incredibale admiration for who? sarah palin, thats who. damn she could win the south and i would drink a beer with her. the only hope at this point ,it really is that bleak, is a brokered convention. it aint over til its over. yeah, too bad all most anyone recalls of Palin is Couric's hack interview. of course from the eyes of couric and people of that s-tripe, anyone who subscribes to fiscal conservatism is an idiot - as such, I dont think I could have a beer with Obama, he'd offer me some dumbass platitude and squirm away when I didnt buy it. wait, we already saw his interview with joe the plumber - I can fix pipes too, and I can also point out when a pipe is clogged with shit Sorry Barry we gotta call roto rooter, and I'ma send YOU the bill when they're done! I think I could have a beer with most any one of these guys that actually respects the founding documents and doesnt have some sort of ideal they're wishing to shove down my throat whether I like it or not. And that's the irony, the tv tell you its the conservatives who are going to come make you change how you live your life, while the progressives are standing behind you with their hand in your pocket telling you we all have to sacrifice for the privilege of being american! Got news for ya, being american is a privilege for immigrants, for those of us born here its simply a fact so privilege never even enters into the equation. now stop spending all of our damn money! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted March 13, 2012 obviously we know where you stand joeblast with the maybe 30% that comprise the gop base that will vote for any republican candidate. and we know where ralis stands with the maybe 30% that comprise the democratic party base. but the question is who the other 40% would want to drink a beer with? and with romney there is not even that option. there anyone would be left alone at the bar. still thirsty.  a couple of trends you may be aware of: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/the_incredible_shrinking_repub.html  http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/12/us-usa-wisconsin-recall-idUSBRE82B1CJ20120312  http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/voter-id-rules-a-solution-in-search-of-a-problem/2012/03/12/gIQA8m8D8R_story.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) how about the trend that this admin is on track to set a new record for a 1 trillion in a single year deficit  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/12/us-pace-1-trillion-deficit/  my gander is Obama would expect me to pay for his beer  hah, more like, he would simply expect the restaurant owner to eat the cost...    I dont get this resistance to having to provide an ID in order to vote. People against it are merely supporting voter fraud.   ample evidence in wisconsin - funny that in order to vote in a union vote you must show your ID, but they are vehemently against making you show your ID to vote for political office? I think it would simply make the unions and groups like acorn (or whatever their new name is these days) have difficulty in getting their ideologies pushed on everyone if actual voters are to be counted. with all those fake names they still couldnt get Walker recalled! pretty pathetic.  funny that realclearpolitics article was talking about the republicans need to provide ways to sway democratic voters - I can think of no other best way to do that than to simply point at the effects of policies and call it like it is. Edited March 13, 2012 by joeblast Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted March 13, 2012 how about the trend that this admin is on track to set a new record for a 1 trillion in a single year deficit  http://www.washingto...illion-deficit/  my gander is Obama would expect me to pay for his beer  hah, more like, he would simply expect the restaurant owner to eat the cost...   i'll buy ya a beer but its gonna be a guiness. i stumbled into this place the other day, my friend mike ordered a pitcher of guiness and asked how much it was. 7 $ the waitor said. then i said, well then bring 2!! this irish debt thing must be serious for guiness to sold at these prices. O'bama is irish? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted March 13, 2012 a pitcher? some places around here charge $7 a glass! Â such are things in the highest taxed state in the nation - they just upped alcohol taxes again since Malloy stole the election, not to mention enacted income and all sorts of other taxes and made them retroactive to the beginning of last year, now his secy of state cohort is trying to run for the senate! yeesh, I dont know if they'll get away with pulling another Franken, at least not in the senate....CT politics though, foget it, this state is cooked, highest debt per capita in the nation, got all the taxes from the casinos and they still cant make ends meet - oh well, let's raise some more revenue, plug these fiscal gaps... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zerostao Posted March 14, 2012 no surprise here that gin rummey fisished 3rd in both mississippi and alabama. if gin rummey tries that $^&! of saying ya'll and cheezy grits in cajun land he will probably be fed to swamp gators. if the "candidates" would forgo the viscious attack ads and try to stay on message about the issues perhaps they could be viewed as a viable alternative to obama. Â and this rush charactor , hasnt he been providing such a huge dis-service to the republicans for what? 20 years or so. he needs to just go away and stay away. Â http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/12/10657379-rush-limbaugh-off-armed-forces-radio-some-petition-obama-to-make-it-so?ocid=twitter&ocid=ansmsnbc11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted March 14, 2012 and this rush charactor , hasnt he been providing such a huge dis-service to the republicans  Yup. These types of clowns gotta go, IMO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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zerostao Posted March 14, 2012 The double standards are so blatant its not even funny and its generally known the media as a whole leans left and will lash out at the right at the drop of a hat, when one of their own commits a transgression it is swept under the table. Â tell that to don imus. Â freedom of speech is not my issue. i even applaud eminem for standing up for his right to free speech. even if his brand of music isnt same as mine. anyone can say what they like. i am saying he(rush) is not good for the GOP party. imo he is hurting the party. he is a distraction to the message. and i will repeat, it would be really great to hear these "candidates" talk about the message rather than to repeat their attacks on each other. the amounts of money they are spending on these personal attacks fails to inspire. Â rush is a provocateur and he has every right to say what ever he wants. he is not alone ann coulter comes to mind, i did accept her on myspace but not on facebook ( all provacateurs are not right wingers ) what i am saying is rush is more of the problem than he is the solution. widening the divide wider and wider. what ever it takes. its a simple equation for rush, the more folks he pisses off the more money he makes. what a way to earn a living. creating more division ( which is the same as opposing any chance of unity) when tom brokaw coined the "greatest generation" well spot on for so many obvious reasons. one of which was , whoever our leaders were , they had the support of the nation and the nation was strong. their single mindedness of doing the right thing made this nation the superpower it is . and this divisiveness will surely bring it ,i would say us , but us is some unknown term at this point. anyways we are going down due to the widening division. connecticut was brought up earlier, i am not qualified to speak of that place. and judging by the price of a glass of guiness, probably not going there anytime soon. Â but i can speak of kentucky. here goes my 2 cents. which is worth about .000000002 cents these days, but i digress, kinda we have 2 republican senators here, yup. one i have great admiration for, the other , not so much. one is a champion of personal liberty and maybe the closest thing to a jefferson that exists in these times. one well, he is certainly not part of the "greatest generation" by any stretch of the imagination. the day after our current president was sworn into office, his official statement was his only goal for the next 4 years was to make sure this president would not be re-elected. wider division. wider. lets take a look at the kentucky flag no matter what these 2 figures represent ,( could be rich man/poor man. city slicker/country bumpkin, or republican/democrat ) the message remains the same. "united we stand and divided we fall" it is a handshake, sincere and genuine to work together for the good of all. mutual benefit. (not mutual destruction) the very first republican president, one abe lincoln (who was born in kentucky) shared a similar concept when he said "a house divided against itself cannot stand" united we stand , divided we fall.. does this make any sense? any at all? Â eminem and rush share much in common , i think they are twins or sth http://www.youtube.c...h?v=WA6_yvgS9As Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Immortal4life Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) U.S. Rep. Shelley Berkley  She's a girl, it's how their minds work. If you're funny, comedic, and putting them in a heightened emotional state, everything you say is cool. If you are serious, everything you do is rejected and wrong. Add a political agenda in there and you have a recipe for rationalization and hypocrisy.  lol, I'm such an asshole. Edited March 14, 2012 by Immortal4life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted March 15, 2012 She's a girl, it's how their minds work. If you're funny, comedic, and putting them in a heightened emotional state, everything you say is cool. If you are serious, everything you do is rejected and wrong. Add a political agenda in there and you have a recipe for rationalization and hypocrisy. lol, I'm such an asshole.  That was a pretty serious post, for a PUA...  (not offended, or attempting to offend in saying that...just thinking that mindset probably isn't serving you well, despite its truth in regards to most people) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted March 15, 2012 "The double standards are so blatant its not even funny and its generally known the media as a whole leans left and will lash out at the right at the drop of a hat, when one of their own commits a transgression it is swept under the table." tell that to don imus. Â freedom of speech is not my issue. i even applaud eminem for standing up for his right to free speech. even if his brand of music isnt same as mine. anyone can say what they like. i am saying he(rush) is not good for the GOP party. imo he is hurting the party. he is a distraction to the message. and i will repeat, it would be really great to hear these "candidates" talk about the message rather than to repeat their attacks on each other. the amounts of money they are spending on these personal attacks fails to inspire. Â rush is a provocateur and he has every right to say what ever he wants. he is not alone ann coulter comes to mind, i did accept her on myspace but not on facebook ( all provacateurs are not right wingers ) what i am saying is rush is more of the problem than he is the solution. widening the divide wider and wider. what ever it takes. its a simple equation for rush, the more folks he pisses off the more money he makes. what a way to earn a living. creating more division ( which is the same as opposing any chance of unity) when tom brokaw coined the "greatest generation" well spot on for so many obvious reasons. one of which was , whoever our leaders were , they had the support of the nation and the nation was strong. their single mindedness of doing the right thing made this nation the superpower it is . and this divisiveness will surely bring it ,i would say us , but us is some unknown term at this point. anyways we are going down due to the widening division. connecticut was brought up earlier, i am not qualified to speak of that place. and judging by the price of a glass of guiness, probably not going there anytime soon. Â but i can speak of kentucky. here goes my 2 cents. which is worth about .000000002 cents these days, but i digress, kinda we have 2 republican senators here, yup. one i have great admiration for, the other , not so much. one is a champion of personal liberty and maybe the closest thing to a jefferson that exists in these times. one well, he is certainly not part of the "greatest generation" by any stretch of the imagination. the day after our current president was sworn into office, his official statement was his only goal for the next 4 years was to make sure this president would not be re-elected. wider division. wider. lets take a look at the kentucky flag no matter what these 2 figures represent ,( could be rich man/poor man. city slicker/country bumpkin, or republican/democrat ) the message remains the same. "united we stand and divided we fall" it is a handshake, sincere and genuine to work together for the good of all. mutual benefit. (not mutual destruction) the very first republican president, one abe lincoln (who was born in kentucky) shared a similar concept when he said "a house divided against itself cannot stand" united we stand , divided we fall.. does this make any sense? any at all? Â eminem and rush share much in common , i think they are twins or sth http://www.youtube.c...h?v=WA6_yvgS9As well, I think rush had an exemplary point regarding people like Obama, Pelosi, Reid - where exactly is it that you compromise with these people? with the media having their backs, "compromise" simply means "you agree with them and shut up" because they sure as shit will not budge an inch and compromise with a conservative. Â I'd love to see some compromise, but in the direction on the ideas that founded the country, not compromise in the direction of Karl Marx or equivalent. the day after obama was elected rush's statement was "I hope he fails" because he knew what "success" in Obama's eyes means. look at the spending trajectory since 2006 when the progressives took control - where's them blue dogs again? gone, out of the party for the most part. the list of nefarious, non presidential, unamerican things that have come out of the progressives is nothing short of a war on how america operates, the main idea is to change the fundamentals of the country, which were just about the only sound thing left. Â Collectivists do not wish to compromise, they simply wish for you to open your wallet and pay for everything they think should be paid for, regardless of whether or not we can afford it - if its within the bounds of political correctness then it must be subsidized, make sure "access is provided" - which access simply means government subsidy, "rich people pay for it" yet its really everyone and the middle class taking the hardest hit because of the numbers. have a look at the yt vid I posted in the debt thread. of course there's a ton of republicans responsible for the debt also, that's why the tea party needs to take it over and make a stand for some fiscal responsibility, because if we fall we're gonna fall ten thousand times harder than greece. Â Â Immortal4life...lol...not because of gender, its the progressive thing. 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zerostao Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) well, I think rush had an exemplary point regarding people like Obama, Pelosi, Reid - where exactly is it that you compromise with these people? with the media having their backs, "compromise" simply means "you agree with them and shut up" because they sure as shit will not budge an inch and compromise with a conservative.  I'd love to see some compromise, but in the direction on the ideas that founded the country, not compromise in the direction of Karl Marx or equivalent. the day after obama was elected rush's statement was "I hope he fails" because he knew what "success" in Obama's eyes means. look at the spending trajectory since 2006 when the progressives took control - where's them blue dogs again? gone, out of the party for the most part. the list of nefarious, non presidential, unamerican things that have come out of the progressives is nothing short of a war on how america operates, the main idea is to change the fundamentals of the country, which were just about the only sound thing left.  Collectivists do not wish to compromise, they simply wish for you to open your wallet and pay for everything they think should be paid for, regardless of whether or not we can afford it - if its within the bounds of political correctness then it must be subsidized, make sure "access is provided" - which access simply means government subsidy, "rich people pay for it" yet its really everyone and the middle class taking the hardest hit because of the numbers. have a look at the yt vid I posted in the debt thread. of course there's a ton of republicans responsible for the debt also, that's why the tea party needs to take it over and make a stand for some fiscal responsibility, because if we fall we're gonna fall ten thousand times harder than greece.   Immortal4life...lol...not because of gender, its the progressive thing. Become a sycophant, parrot the right things and work on a campaign and you might just qualify to run for one of their offices, too  joeblast, in regards to "where exactly is it that you compromise with these people? " you may be spot on. then again maybe not. when obama first took office he offered john boehner a high level cabinet position in the white house. the obama idea supposedly was to create a way to have better cooperation between these 2 parties and work in a bipartisan manner. so again i will bring up my poker analogy. maybe this was just a bluff by the president and he really was just using this as window dressing and would had proceeded with his own agenda all along? but becoz folks like boehner and mitch mcconnell would not call obama's "bluff" we will never know. in poker if you dont call bets and choose to lay the hand down (and at poker tables since forever this is called "playing republican poker"(( and i have been accused of such practices))(((and sometimes this does pay off))) but there comes a critical moment during the game when one needs to call the bet to know if the other guy is indeed bluffing or he is genuinely holding nice cards. if this hadda been played that way, showing some guts and calling a bet, then perhaps the political climate would look very different today and maybe the gop would have a chance to win the white house. and imo by not calling that bet 4 years ago it has further doomed the chances this time around. if a party of "conservatives" continues to nominate these mccains and romneys, then where is the will to return to the "direction of the founders" ? i totally understand your tea party stance, i do not at all understand your republican stance. they have become gutless. even if 2/3 are supporting either santorum or gingrich, the way the game is played romney has the lead. so i wont use the gin rummey phrase here but i do ask this, is the game we are playing more resembling high stakes poker or all we playing another card game , one that is called bullshit?  edit> since you throw this progressive label around. romney has called himself a progressive. Edited March 16, 2012 by zerostao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted March 16, 2012 It seems rather odd to offer the (other party's) speaker of the house a cabinet position, no? I seriously doubt the offer was to create more participation or cooperation. Progressives, especially the emboldened ones with an electoral victory or two, have a diametrically opposed vision for the country as what was laid out by the founders and subsequently made the country "great." Â Most of what comes out of Obama's mouth is bluffing, obfuscation, or plain outright lies. You can hardly count them all by this point in his presidency. From the selective facts presented on socialized medicine and the trojan horse method of getting from here to there; the no lobbyists to hiring a ton for his admin; the attempt to undermine the second amendment; the union kickback "stimuli"; the political donors with failing companies being awarded loans; the blocking of any oil development on federal land then turning around saying we only have 2% of the world's oil; we're making a recovery; jobless is not U6 almost 19%...lie, lie, lie, craft a new reality and present it, replete with straw men such as "those guys over there are going to make abortion and contraception illegal if you elect them...nevermind the economy, you need your birth control, vote for me!" And then we can laugh about the billion he thought he'd have and the emails to previous donors imploring them to donate since it was noticed they donated before but for some unknown reason the donations just arent flowing in this time around now that there's a record attached. Â From tp, republican - best avenue is takeover and let the establishment-elite types be the old democrat party they would be more comfy in worrying about their flow of gravy. 3rd party is not a viable option at this stage of the game, simply put. Any serious 3rd party contender just hands the job back to Obama in this election - and that can be said with far more certainty than romney's "inevitable" nomination. I'm glad Gingrich is hanging in there, cripes, that's the only reason Santorum is any sort of "frontrunner" these days, merely because he hung out in the back and didnt get shot down. As such, Pawlenty would have been in his spot if he hadnt have backed out. As Cain would have right now if some half baked garbage hadnt have caused the kindergarten media to jump up and down going "gotcha, gotcha, gotcha" and forcing him out. Of course with such shit sticking to the wall its no wonder it finally came to a head with it getting worse, and worse, and finally everyone pointing out the utter and complete hypocrisy of non-conservatives getting a free pass with regard to anything misogynist, etc. Â "Gutless" I see is everyone's desire for "compromise" which brings us squarely back to having to deal with people who want things diametrically opposed to what you want. Like Rush said, if the media were the least bit interested in vetting democrats like they are republicans, holding their feet to the fire, calling them out on hypocrisy - the National Conversation would be quite different than we find it today. Â It is quite the game of bullshit. *plays two 12s* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted April 5, 2012 Extreme lack of intelligence in the right wing. Santorum believes no one will bother to check his so called facts. Â Â http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/04/02/santorum-claims-seven-or-eight-university-of-california-campuses-dont-teach-american-history/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites