konchog uma Posted February 10, 2012 Hey, just felt to comment on something that caught my attention. 'that stuff'you mention is only our fuller potential and a wider being that we may have been unaware of previously. I am sure some may disagree here. Otherise enjoying to read the updates. Â its a trickster.. i asked it "are you me" and it said "hahah who are you?" and in the sense that I am That i think it is an aspect of true self, higher self, or cosmic self. But thats a very expanded use of the word self, and i have to say, it really feels like something else. I guess its sort of both, depending on my own ability to expand my own definition of self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted February 10, 2012 Hi Anamatva, I too am enjoying your posts. Thank you for posting about your experiences. Â my pleasure, i feel blessed to be able to. Â You will find that as you spend more time focusing on the sushumna, it gets bigger. It expands outwards. And, at each end, there is this huge void, which is very dark, except for the very faint twinkling of almost imperceptible stars in the distance. These stars are actually other people, or lives. Â wow. Are they the lives of people close to one? Â It is very interesting that you've described a lotus of light, which is exactly how the vedanta tradition refers to the lotus in the heart. Â Also, I do have one question. When you say "i experienced 100% of myself as completely brilliant white light, like a person made out of light", was there a separate "I" witnessing the body of light or did you become the light (so that you could no longer see the light)? The distinction here is that if you were separate, then you might have been viewing your astral body, or, possibly a reflection of the purusha/atman/soul from the mirror like surface of the stilled mind? Â the lotus was like 5 feet around and below me, and so i am not sure it relates directly with the heart lotus, but i appreciated the text you shared. Â I was the light and sort of got lost a little bit in the light but at the same time i could see perfectly, but only when i looked at something. Like when i looked down at my leg it was clothed in robes of light and when i looked beneath me i saw a lotus but the rest was just a sort of wash of light when i wasn't focused on it. It thought it might have been my astral body too, or some subtle body. I don't really know how many of those people have, hindu says 4 egyptian says 10 etc.. I don't really know what i was, it seemed very subtle but i think it was more than my mind. Hard to say for sure.. i don't pretend to know 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustARandomPanda Posted February 10, 2012 *whistles* Â Â Sure hope I can experience Yang Chi Awakening someday. Sounds awesome! Oh well. I'll always have vicariously experienced Yang Chi Awakening through you. It's like reading Marco Polo's adventures and imagining I'm there too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted February 10, 2012 also, before the light show, "chop wood and carry water" - after the light show, "chop wood and carry water" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted February 11, 2012 SereneBlue, I'm glad to inspire, and hope your path leads you to wonderful awakenings of your own! Â 3bob, Quite so yes... though I feel more able to chop and carry now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) SereneBlue, I'm glad to inspire, and hope your path leads you to wonderful awakenings of your own! Â 3bob, Quite so yes... though I feel more able to chop and carry now. Â Anamatva, Â So it is that such is often said and to quote something from Master Jesus if you will (?) - "My yoke is easy and my burden is light," Â Edited February 11, 2012 by 3bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
konchog uma Posted February 12, 2012 You said: When I am in the void, my body looks like a bar magnet's magnetic field; the lines consist of white light, more compressed in the center and open on each end. And it extends outwards and around, wrapping back in on either end.. Sort of like this picture, but made of white light. And, there is nothing but wide open space all around and the faint twinkles of stars in the very far distance:  http://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/ferromagnetic/why_magnetic.php  I wonder if your description of the heart lotus is similar to that picture of the bar magnet's field?  thanks for that adyashanti link.. he's okay but not a favorite of mine either. But that doesn't matter...  Your magnet realization reminds me of the 2nd to last painting of Alex Grey in the Chapel of Sacred Mirrors (COSM)   that was his rendition of the same sort of "void" state. If you've never seen COSM the movie, i highly suggest watching it, its a video interview with him and a guided tour of the exhibit. Most wonderful!!  the last painting in the series btw is just a plain black empty page with the 4 tibetan elements around the edges.. a beautiful rendition of emptiness  you can see a very tiny version of cosm here: http://ericdean.com/pages/COSM/SacredMirrors.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted February 12, 2012 A description? How about "neti neti"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tibetan_Ice Posted February 12, 2012 thanks for that adyashanti link.. he's okay but not a favorite of mine either. But that doesn't matter...  Your magnet realization reminds me of the 2nd to last painting of Alex Grey in the Chapel of Sacred Mirrors (COSM)   that was his rendition of the same sort of "void" state. If you've never seen COSM the movie, i highly suggest watching it, its a video interview with him and a guided tour of the exhibit. Most wonderful!!  the last painting in the series btw is just a plain black empty page with the 4 tibetan elements around the edges.. a beautiful rendition of emptiness  you can see a very tiny version of cosm here: http://ericdean.com/pages/COSM/SacredMirrors.html   Hi Anamatva Well that was a very enjoyable movie. Thank you very much. I found it on google video here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6827097227365303858#  Yes, the Universal Mind Lattice resembles what I see except there are no internal concentric circles or internal spheres. I was going to say that it resembles the Spiritual Energy System but I can see no internal chakras nor any form that even outlines the body, as in this picture:   The other thing I will mention is that I can't see the whole orb of silver light because of my viewing angle. It is like "I" am positioned in the center, fixed there but I can rotate my view..  Thanks for your comments and the links/pictures.  TI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tibetan_Ice Posted February 12, 2012 A description? How about "neti neti"... Hi Bob Thanks for the top-down pointer. Did you know that 'neti neti' is not only an intellectual exercise for the mind, a kind of puzzle that top-down approaches befuddle the general populous with, but it is a meditation practice as well? Â What you do is this: You sit in meditation and if you can see, think, hear, feel or sense anything, that's not it. Instead, turn your attention around and try to become whatever is perceiving. Go past the golden orb of light and beyond. Become that which is perceiving the act of perception. Â So, "neti neti" is also a meditation practice which takes you to the beyond. Â TI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted February 12, 2012 Hi Bob Thanks for the top-down pointer. Did you know that 'neti neti' is not only an intellectual exercise for the mind, a kind of puzzle that top-down approaches befuddle the general populous with, but it is a meditation practice as well? Â What you do is this: You sit in meditation and if you can see, think, hear, feel or sense anything, that's not it. Instead, turn your attention around and try to become whatever is perceiving. Go past the golden orb of light and beyond. Become that which is perceiving the act of perception. Â So, "neti neti" is also a meditation practice which takes you to the beyond. Â TI Â Â heck it might even help my chess game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites