idiot_stimpy Posted February 10, 2012 That is true, one of the main lessons of Buddhism is that we cause more suffering for ourselves by trying to get away from suffering. Resisting the pain holds, allowing the pain liberates. Resisting 'what is' right now is to resist yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) deleted post Edited February 10, 2012 by OldGreen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mokona Posted February 13, 2012 IMO - feeling like you HAVE to suffer is a trick to hold you down like a dog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Informer Posted February 13, 2012 I think the energy would be better spent teaching others to heal themselves and then to pay it forward. (imo) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) No one in their right mind would want to suffer. But that's the problem....people whom are unconscious of there own unconsciousness are bound to suffer due to their own lack of self-knowledge and being pushed through life by their constant fear and avoidance of pain. In a way....every one on the path is a bit crazy because we thrust ourselves into the pain and turmoil that comes from walking the path. We go through the Heroes Journey in order to grow past our limitations. IMO the juice is worth the squeeze -My 2 cents, Peace Edited February 14, 2012 by OldGreen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted February 14, 2012 Can't agree with this. Embarrassing painful or difficult things are always the best for us? What the hell? Isn't that the goal of going with the tao so you don't have to experience this kind of stuff? None of those emotions are useful are they? how can they benefit you? Infact they cause you sickness and ill health. Why experience them when you don't have to? There are so may different good feelings you could be feeling instead! What better way to learn from a bad example than to experience it? I am not trying to suggest that it is good to chop off your arm and wail in pain, followed by chopping off your otehr arm... unless you need to learn that it's gonna hurt and there's nmo good reason to do it, then live on as an example of what NOT to do... No, pain, suffering, embarrassment, and all unwanted experiences are good for something, but not necessarily necessary. They are unnecessary in terms of health, but often necessary in terms of learning and cultivation. We might or might not be born with all the answers and the pure truth, but it is too easily forgotten by the time we learn to speak, and so we must re-learn everything forgotten. Pain and suffering included. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites