robaire Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) this is one of those duh things you don't get right away, but later if you look at it soberly, you realize that the entire western media is a big lie machine. (always have been ...) consider the evidence. kobe had an earthquake several years ago, it was measured at 6.8. it caused significant damage, buildings toppled etc. now this 3-11 is measured at 9.0. but wait. were any buildings damaged? why were folks walking around like nothing much happened, minutes before the big tsunami hit. there are viddeos that show computers etc sitting on desks after this supposed quake. hello? tables standing normally, file cabinets etc. a 9.0 would have reduced all that to rubble. so what happened? what caused this giant wave? that's the question the lie factory will never own up to. Edited March 8, 2012 by robaire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desert Eagle Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) tsunamis can travel long distances from their source and if the source is far enough then no strong tremors would reach, see 2004 tsunami (coastal areas had no warning). but yes media lies and spins a lot. by the way it seems they're shutting down the industry: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46676913/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/ Edited March 9, 2012 by Desert Eagle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robaire Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) tsunamis can travel long distances from their source and if the source is far enough then no strong tremors would reach, see 2004 tsunami (coastal areas had no warning). but yes media lies and spins a lot. by the way it seems they're shutting down the industry: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46676913/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/ [link] there is 2 kinds of news out there. conditioned media news which is 80% lies .... and the for real news ... the for real news takes courage to say it. [this]looks like sci-fi but contains a few ways of looking through illusions ... [this] tells you that a few intell agencies are now aware of some of the daemons who cause terror because that is all they know ... these are the same who worship a "being" who instructs them to destroy all who are not of "their seed". do you really need that type around ...? in your world, today? [this] is in support of accurate media ..... ____________ anyway the bottom line is that it is pretty clear knowledge now, amongst the Russian, the Brazilians, the Europeans, Germans, French etc, that Fukushima was an act of terror, and was done by a certain small middle east country who has also often massacered Palestinians and others, who also did 911 etc etc ....... (almost boring) and this small country has no friends in the world, and everyone is waiting for the final domino to fall when it exists no more, and the world is rid of philosophies whereby you are justified in destroying peace lovong folks simply because your "monster god" says they are "not of your seed" ... etc .... (lets not foget that this small country was "created" in 1947 by the owners of the US Fed who sit in London offices ....) and whose sole purpose seems to be to destroy ... and you have not yet heard of the underwater bomb technology producing large tsunamis because the mainstream media is mostly zomby. but you will, eventually. and they will also cover how the large cameras in that facility were holders of small micro nukes, which made the take down of that facility even more thorough .... . and the security company was somehow allowed to be there in the first place, wiring all that in there ...... like, duh. Edited March 10, 2012 by robaire 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robaire Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) there are a few sites, not many, that give a picture of the furious behind the scenes [goings on] ......... like the internal wars going on ........... you can't really make sense of it. but it does confirm that at the higher levels, there is definitely a "dark side" and they are always busy, but do they realize they are the evil ones? .... or do they think, "well I'll get mine before someone else does" ... maybe that is the mentality of evil anyway. it is ignorant of anything except, I'll get mine .... it's worth doing a tudy on it. .... According to these reports, former CIA Director and US President George H. W. Bush, along with 7 other former CIA chiefs, presented Obama with their ultimatum ahead of this weeks crucial United Nations and Pittsburgh G-20 meetings of World leaders where Obama is expected to break with the New World Order factions that have devastated his country and realign the United States into the ‘orbit’ of the Russian Motherland who has fought these monsters for decades. ............ Kennedy had appealed to Khrushchev to save the United States after his, Kennedy’s, discovering in 1962 the CIA and Pentagon’s plan to launch terror attacks against the United States in a secret plan named “Operation Northwoods” ........... US Federal Forces loyal to Obama have launched an assault against the CIA backed al Qaeda forces operating in the United States from their secretive base in Denver, Colorado, where they use their New World Order Denver International Airport to spirit these forces into their very own country. ...... so if you had to identify the most evil forces at work today how would you do it ...? well one thing you'd understand some [techniques] used by that darkside ........ ..... that “the 9-11 terrorist attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad, and that this was common knowledge among global intelligence agencies.” ...... significance to the upcoming G-20 Summit called by these Globalists to be held in the US city of Pittsburgh, and which is called the “Illuminati Capital” of America due to its being taken over by the Bavarian Illuminati factions from Germany in the 19th Century and which today is still ruled by some of the most powerful factions of these coup forces including the Carnegie and Mellon robber baron banking and industrial families ........ Carnegie family merged with the Mellon family Institute to create Carnegie-Mellon University in Pittsburgh and through whose machinations led to the American people being forced to have the mind altering drug, and toxic waste product of aluminum manufacturing sodium fluoride introduced into their water supplies ........ a bit easier cultivating longevity ... when you know who is working to shorten some folks days .... Edited March 10, 2012 by robaire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Desert Eagle Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) so if you had to identify the most evil forces at work today how would you do it ...? "The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." -Socrates "Evil is rigorously applied stupidity." - Bill Mollison Edited March 11, 2012 by Desert Eagle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robaire Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) the second link there (Vetsch) is so full of brilliant original material.... you honsestly don't know where to start. it's like a documentary on the matrix movie, except it is saying where the situation is such, with references and examples. this graphic for example, the N Cycle. I have NEVER seen this anywhere before, and when I first grokked it, I knew it was a brilliant construct, so simple and elegant. it was so original. but in fact this fellow's [writing] is full of these genius constructs. the only issue I have is that his final analysis is so distopian, whereas I think that a basic feature of spiritual free will is the actual possibility of ascension to whatever levels are sincerely sought after. and thus, the outcome is very good. paradise no less, if SOUGHT AFTER fully. but ... that is assuming spiritual free will. WCV actually posits and illustrates cases where he finds that blockages occur due to the actual designs / intentions of the darkside forces. in ways that infiltrate the very structures of spiritual organization. picture darth sidious planting traps in theology to keep his empitre under his iron grip. that is the picture that wcv paints .... despite that, he also illustrates the Vectors that he feels are operative in the unseen dimensions. it's too deep for a cursory remark. it needs to be studied well, by serious analysts. Edited March 10, 2012 by robaire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robaire Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) what does it signify, this N Cycle? well it's about how power and force is going up the left hand side of the N, and when it reaches what it thinks is the top, it finds out that there is no gate there, only a brick wall of karma. so ... it's really a very long way down again, usually a vertical drop in fact, not sideways like that N, and then they have to start all over again, but this time if they learned the lesson of that fall, it's on the right hand bar of the N, where genuine progress is , as it is based on compassion for other beings, as part and parcel of the whole situation. and above that right vector, is ... a gate way ..... (to the higher worlds) ..... that is why I was reluctant to add to that magic thread. I know stuff that that I don't know, if you get the drift. nearly all magic is on the left side of the N Cycle, as wcv points out by the example of Milarepa the great yogi master who began as a black magician (taught by dark masters) and had to fall all the way to the bottom before he could start back up the right side. (based on his Kagyu lineage) ... song lyric .......... all you black magicians take note. you cannot and will not fool reality. take corrective action now. not later. this is the cusp of ages and is the time to choose quickly. ___________________ well, let's say that all the intell agencies of most every country fully knows now ... (& with part thanks to the work of independant workers like JS .... who, b.t.w. will NOT become a martyr for that same m-ss-d, as too many know ... too late ...) that m-ss-d was responsible for 3-11. .......... so what do you do? the world, should know they worship lucifer, or the D---- as their god. what else is there to say? it is all clearly written in their talmud, or in the old testament. their god teaches war, violence, and eye for an eye tooth for a tooth , strike first, sow fear etc etc ... all things that make a world into a hell. what can anyone say? they are taught that way., that is the being they worship. would "it" (that spirit deamon monster called jahova) have them do any differnt than this? so what do you do? a heck of a lot of reconciliation and re programming into the truth and the light. that is what. but is the planet ready for a job like that? it starts in London. it starts at the offices of the Red Shield (Bauer) banking enterprises. they learned the financial black magic back in the 1700's. (fractional reserve banking etc. risk management to sovereigns ... taught by Jinn. ask the Muslims. they know what Jinn are. riches makers, but terrible masters also. b.t.w. this is high level spiritual history. shhh. the Muslims know lots about that also. .... ......... what has caught our attention today, to put it mildly, is a combined Russian Interior Ministry-FSB report circulating in the Kremlin today that states that our World’s Navies are about engage in ‘unprecedented’ hostilities with the ‘giant founders’ of the ancient Biblical Garden of Eden to prevent our Planet from being re-colonized by an alien race most popularly known as the Annunaki (or "Nephilim") who ancient Babylonian texts state are the ‘Watchers’ over our Earth. What makes this report even more disturbing is that as these very words are being written, Naval Forces from all around the Globe are now converging upon The Gulf of Aden, the area historically described as is “the freshwater river that left Eden and split into four heads of branches, based upon archaic notions of a great river encircling the world” and which is the exact location given by these ancient Babylonian texts for the location of the ‘main undersea base’ of these Watchers. Global Naval Forces currently steaming towards, or already in, The Gulf of Aden include ‘friends and foes’ alike The United States, Iran, China, Russia, Germany, Switzerland, European Union and India under what these reports state is the ‘cover story’ of protecting the shipping lanes of that region from the US backed pirates operating out of Somalia. [link] ... " My friends and I bet as to who will blow Israel off the map, and the smart money says China." .......... ..... Now the story develops. Interesting stuff. "blowing Israel off the map" would be counterproductive, because it is merely a sock puppet of the Rothchilds. Ignore the puppet - look towards the banking district in the City of London. I would bet Israeli behavior would be a LOT better if someone was not pulling their strings. Edited March 11, 2012 by robaire Share this post Link to post Share on other sites