Thunder_Gooch Posted April 1, 2012 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1470174545 I will try to review it when I have time to read it. I have a huge backlog of reading material working so much, but this will take priority. Keep your fingers crossed that it is a real text with instruction, not some philosophical discourse as is so much out there today 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sifu ReL Posted April 1, 2012 is the Neigong Forum yours...i wanna join but i havent recieve a email... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder_Gooch Posted April 1, 2012 is the Neigong Forum yours...i wanna join but i havent recieve a email... Yes, you should be approved if not send me a pm here and I will try to fix it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jox Posted April 1, 2012 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1470174545 I will try to review it when I have time to read it. I have a huge backlog of reading material working so much, but this will take priority. Keep your fingers crossed that it is a real text with instruction, not some philosophical discourse as is so much out there today I asked a guy, who is a student of WLP, about that book... He has Chinese version. It is WLP teaching..., as guide for the students. It is not full explanation of the technology... Jox, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted April 1, 2012 According to Amazon mine is arriving on Wednesday, I too hope we can get something out of the manual instead of it just being a sequel to Opening the Dragon Gate so to speak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sifu ReL Posted April 1, 2012 Yes, you should be approved if not send me a pm here and I will try to fix it. LOLZ thanks im the guy who messaged...."WHY DO I NEED TO JOIN?" ironicly after sending it i DID in Fact "WANT" to join...so i apologize if that came off ass-whole-ish. i would really want to learn Neigong from you if your willing to teach....or may i should just buy the book you just posted about neigong?....thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jox Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) Yes, you should be approved if not send me a pm here and I will try to fix it. I also registered for your neigong forum also, but nothing happened... Jox, Edited April 2, 2012 by Jox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder_Gooch Posted April 2, 2012 LOLZ thanks im the guy who messaged...."WHY DO I NEED TO JOIN?" ironicly after sending it i DID in Fact "WANT" to join...so i apologize if that came off ass-whole-ish. i would really want to learn Neigong from you if your willing to teach....or may i should just buy the book you just posted about neigong?....thanks. I don't teach, I just recommend other teachers and books to people. I can't say anything better than they can, I am just a student and I am not even level 1 yet. I just run the forum because they wouldn't create a neigong and qigong practice discussion forum here on thetaobums and I felt there needed to be one as I couldn't find one online. It's just a place for people who are interested in neigong training, a place for news of new schools and teachers etc. I recommend contacting Jim Chang's student he left his email up for contact here: http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/5786-john-changs-1st-westener-student/page__view__findpost__p__67022 Also attend a longmen pai seminar and or buy this book if it turns out to be a real training manual and not some philosophical discourse. http://www.laoziacademy.us/ http://www.longmenpai.com/forum/ Dr. Jerry Allen Johnson is set to release his schools neigong manual next year, and I am looking forward to that as well. Those are the best leads I have for you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder_Gooch Posted April 2, 2012 I also registered for your neigong forum also, but nothing happened... Jox, Check again. It used to just be you had to fill out a captcha and that was that, but something somewhere broke and without moving to a new forum and losing everything I had to move to a moderator approval method. I chose vanilla forums because from my research it seemed most obscure and least hackable of all the forums, but getting support for it when it breaks sucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jox Posted April 2, 2012 Check again. It used to just be you had to fill out a captcha and that was that, but something somewhere broke and without moving to a new forum and losing everything I had to move to a moderator approval method. I chose vanilla forums because from my research it seemed most obscure and least hackable of all the forums, but getting support for it when it breaks sucks. I signed in, it works now... tnx Jox, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder_Gooch Posted April 3, 2012 The book is an actual training manual and is worth purchasing. +1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ish Posted April 3, 2012 The book is an actual training manual and is worth purchasing. +1 Wow really looking forward to it arriving, could you possibly give a mini overview of any practice stages it describes the methods for? cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted April 3, 2012 Wow really looking forward to it arriving, could you possibly give a mini overview of any practice stages it describes the methods for? cheers Mine arrives tomorrow, I'll let you know. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sifu ReL Posted April 3, 2012 The book is an actual training manual and is worth purchasing. +1 just bought it, its coming thurs. $41 total the things i do for chi!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder_Gooch Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) just bought it, its coming thurs. $41 total the things i do for chi!!! Don't worry I've blown thousands on books and most turn out to be garbage to discuss philosophy when they claim to be the teachings of a school. Jim is also worth contacting. The spring forest qigong level one course is worth buying too imho. Dr. Jerry Allen Johnson's upcoming book looks to be good. And Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics 2nd Edition is a good book on energy work. Most everything else I've found has been garbage, not much in the way of real training material is in print, it's all philosophical discourse. Taoist Yoga by Charles luk is reputed to be a real training manual but it is so badly translated it is painful to even hold in my hands. It reads like some porno for dragons and tigers and ancient alchemy lab experiment manual with mercury and lead, way to much Jargon and nonsense I would have to sit down and re-translate it with with common English descriptions of all the nonsense words and phrases and rewrite it more simply for it to be useful. Edited April 4, 2012 by More_Pie_Guy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ish Posted April 4, 2012 Don't worry I've blown thousands on books and most turn out to be garbage to discuss philosophy when they claim to be the teachings of a school. Jim is also worth contacting. The spring forest qigong level one course is worth buying too imho. Dr. Jerry Allen Johnson's upcoming book looks to be good. And Robert Bruce's Astral Dynamics 2nd Edition is a good book on energy work. Most everything else I've found has been garbage, not much in the way of real training material is in print, it's all philosophical discourse. Taoist Yoga by Charles luk is reputed to be a real training manual but it is so badly translated it is painful to even hold in my hands. It reads like some porno for dragons and tigers and ancient alchemy lab experiment manual with mercury and lead, way to much Jargon and nonsense I would have to sit down and re-translate it with with common English descriptions of all the nonsense words and phrases and rewrite it more simply for it to be useful. Re Taoist alchemy, i swear they replaced all the mercury and lead type description with vitality, spirit etc etc, at least in the PDF i have. The book generally feels quite clear to me apart from a few points, but still it's not a system i would practice without a teacher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted April 4, 2012 I just got my copy today and it is indeed a practice manual, very excited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thunder_Gooch Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) Re Taoist alchemy, i swear they replaced all the mercury and lead type description with vitality, spirit etc etc, at least in the PDF i have. The book generally feels quite clear to me apart from a few points, but still it's not a system i would practice without a teacher. Taoist Yoga by C. Luk is available on PDF? That would help me tremendously if it's not picture scans and it is actual text. I could create a word document and go through and batch replace terms that sound like gibberish to me with what they actually mean and reread it till I understood it and condensed it. It doesn't flow well at all for me. It was like these guys did the English translation: Edited April 5, 2012 by More_Pie_Guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ish Posted April 5, 2012 Suprised to get the book 6 days ahead of schedule but here it is, will post my thoughts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ish Posted April 5, 2012 Taoist Yoga by C. Luk is available on PDF? That would help me tremendously if it's not picture scans and it is actual text. I could create a word document and go through and batch replace terms that sound like gibberish to me with what they actually mean and reread it till I understood it and condensed it. It doesn't flow well at all for me. It was like these guys did the English translation: Yeah it is, but i believe it's scans. Just google searching "taoist yoga alchemy and immortality pdf" should get you there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pero Posted April 5, 2012 If you guys aren't going to review it anytime soon could someone post at least the table of contents please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sifu ReL Posted April 5, 2012 If you guys aren't going to review it anytime soon could someone post at least the table of contents please? YOUR WELCOME! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ish Posted April 5, 2012 If you guys aren't going to review it anytime soon could someone post at least the table of contents please? 1. Yin xian fa 2. Zhi Neng Gong 3. San Xian Gong 4. Tai yi Jin hua zhong zi 5. Nu Dan Xin fa 6. Shui Gong 7. Nei Shi Fa 8. Jin Yang Huo and Tui Yin fu 9. Zi shi gang 10. Guan Shi Mo Xiang and ting fu yi mu 11. Zi Ran Huan Qi Fa 12. Ping Heng Gong 13. Standing Training 14. Capturing the Sun's jing of essence and the moon's light 15. Moving the 5 elements to open the eight extra channels 16. Ba gua yi qiu gong 17. Tian gang ba gua bu 18. Tian gang stars training 19. Appendix Taoist text translations 1. Zhong lu chuan dao ji 2. Tia yi jin hua zhong zhi 3. Wu pian ling wen I haven't studied it deeply, or read the whole thing but so far IMO it's a must have for someone interested in this school/field. A very generous text. I can elaborate on the chapter briefly if anyone doesnt know what practices are in chinese. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pero Posted April 5, 2012 Thank you so much guys! 5. Nu Dan Xin fa 7. Nei Shi Fa 9. Zi shi gang 10. Guan Shi Mo Xiang and ting fu yi mu 16. Ba gua yi qiu gong 17. Tian gang ba gua bu 18. Tian gang stars training Taoist text translations 3. Wu pian ling wen I can elaborate on the chapter briefly if anyone doesnt know what practices are in chinese. Yes please, at least for the ones above. Google helped with the rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aetherous Posted April 5, 2012 Thanks guys, looks nice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
